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754. P. Djèlí Clark (a.k.a. The Historian) — Abeni’s Song

Lost family, fabulous worldbuilding, and salamanders, oh my! Shaun Duke and Daniel Haeusser are joined by the wondrous P. Djèlí Clark for a fabulous interview about Abeni’s Song! Together, they discuss Clark’s turn to middle grade fantasy, his approach to worldbuilding, the complexities in using historical analogs, and so much more!

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Show Notes:

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  • Abeni’s Song by P. Djèlí Clark (Buy It!)
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 December 18, 2023  52m