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#431 – An Interview with Adam McCombs


Welcome, Adam McCombs! Check out his talk at Supercon and the associated article on Hackaday.com

  • Scanning electron microscope
    • 0h 0m 45s
  • 2017 got the first microscope
    • 0h 1m 10s
  • Dan Burrard STM microscopes
    • 0h 1m 43s
  • @Nanographs
    • 0h 2m 28s
  • Vacuum is shockingly challenging
    • 0h 2m 46s
  • Air stops behaving like a liquid
    • 0h 3m 57s
  • Turbomolecular pumps
    • 0h 4m 16s
  • 14.4 atm
    • 0h 5m 24s
  • turbo pump looks like a turbine
    • 0h 6m 41s
  • Roughing pump can get 10^-3 torr
    • 0h 8m 2s
  • Thermionic emission gun
    • 0h 8m 54s
  • Tungsten filament
    • 0h 9m 3s
  • Magnetic lenses
    • 0h 9m 52s
  • Electron detector
    • 0h 11m 0s
  • Uses 400V to attract electrons towards the phospher
    • 0h 11m 13s
  • Older systems needed higher energy electrons
    • 0h 12m 13s
  • You can melt things in an electron microscope
    • 0h 13m 26s
  • Electron-beam welder
    • 0h 14m 14s
  • Cutting edge is wet samples
    • 0h 15m 18s
  • Most things in SEMs are dead
    • 0h 15m 28s
  • Newest semiconductors is 7-14 nm
    • 0h 17m 33s
  • Optical vs SEM with Depth of Focus (DOF)
    • 0h 18m 50s
  • Preparing the sample generally has to be conductive
    • 0h 19m 41s
  • Non-conductive things are usually coated in gold
    • 0h 20m 26s
  • Gold coated cheerio
    • 0h 21m 24s
  • Thickness of the sputter depends on needs: thicker is less coating
    • 0h 22m 38s
  • Angstroms vs nanometers
    • 0h 23m 37s
  • SEM vs STM vs TEM
    • 0h 27m 28s
  • SEM images the surface of things
    • 0h 27m 39s
  • STM transmits electrons through the sample
    • 0h 27m 49s
  • imaging bonds requires an atomically thin sample
    • 0h 28m 51s
  • can image magnetic fields with a TEM
    • 0h 31m 30s
  • can to tomography if you image things in sequence
    • 0h 31m 55s
  • Learned about the brain project from Allen Institute
    • 0h 33m 51s
  • Scanning tunneling electron microscope (stm)
    • 0h 34m 49s
  • Doesn’t operate at vacuum
    • 0h 35m 6s
  • “Coarse approach done, now to bring it in to quantum tunneling range to start scanning. I always love when we can leverage quantum effects using tools you can just build out of parts from the hardware store, eBay, and digikey.”
    • 0h 36m 22s
  • SEM is for surface science
    • 0h 37m 28s
  • TEM is used for things like asbestos
    • 0h 38m 5s
  • Also used for histology (telling if a sample has a virus)
    • 0h 38m 57s
  • STMs are more specialized – atomic resolution of the surface of a sample
    • 0h 40m 27s
  • Fundamental material research
    • 0h 40m 47s
  • IBM video “The boy and his atom”
    • 0h 41m 8s
  • Multiframes is possible but resolution goes down
    • 0h 41m 46s
  • Similar to a camera with different exposure
    • 0h 41m 58s
  • Ben Krasnow videos
    • 0h 44m 6s
  • First scope was “some assembly required”
    • 0h 45m 13s
  • Most o-rings are viton – silicon based
    • 0h 46m 8s
  • ISI super 3A
    • 0h 46m 42s
  • Jeol 35C
    • 0h 47m 4s
  • VacuumHackers.com
    • 0h 49m 9s
  • Digital capture isn’t normally included
    • 0h 51m 47s
  • Polaroid film holder to capature images
    • 0h 52m 53s
  • Now doing this for a business as well
    • 0h 54m 11s
  • Repairs, consulting, moving
    • 0h 55m 4s
  • Might be recreating old parts
    • 0h 55m 27s
  • Might be manufacturing heavy and creating parts that enables new pieces
    • 0h 55m 36s
  • The materials of these hasn’t changed much over the years
    • 0h 57m 20s
  • Column is usually made out of iron
    • 0h 59m 40s
  • Electronics usually aren’t the problem
    • 1h 0m 36s
  • Philips manuals are really detailed
    • 1h 2m 9s
  • Manuals for older things are non existent
    • 1h 2m 21s
  • Example of a common failure: beam jumping around
    • 1h 3m 1s
  • RAM failure on a jeol 1200
    • 1h 4m 48s
  • Working with high voltage
    • 1h 6m 1s
  • High voltage tank
    • 1h 7m 53s
  • Putting the electronics into oil
    • 1h 8m 34s
  • xray safety is a big concern in TEMs with 120kV+ electrons
    • 1h 9m 39s
  • Multiple geiger counters (thin window)
    • 1h 10m 11s
  • Follow along on @nanographs
    • 1h 14m 31s
  • VacuumHackers.com
    • 1h 14m 57s
  • nwnlabs.org
    • 1h 16m 20s
  • (Not mentioned during the show) Adam will be at M&M conference in Portland this year


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