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#449 – Pulled From A Working Environment


  • Chris just got back from Teardown 2019. Shows next week will be with guests that he interviewed during the conference, while Dave is away.
  • While there, Chris did two workshops, both with FPGAs and the open toolchains.
  • The first was a workshop with our sometimes co-host Piotr Esden-Tempski. The workshop involved the 1bitsquared iCEBreaker.
  • This used the Yosys toolchain by past guest Clifford Wolf (holy moly that interview was two and a half hours!)
  • It also uses NextPNR, which was discussed by Piotr, Clifford and Dave at Chaos Communication Camp
  • Altera is now Intel FPGA, if you didn’t remember.
  • Git paper
  • VHDL vs Verilog
  • “Cross platform code” works between two separate chipsets meant for USB C
    • Richtek RC1716
    • TI TUSB422
  • USB C PD
  • Dave was actually discussing cross VENDOR code, because of the standard register format between the chips.
  • Chris also took a workshop with Sean “Xobs” Cross that involved 3 levels:
    • Micropython
    • C written for a RISC V processor (soft IP core)
    • Writing hard logic for the FPGA
  • Xobs is co-creator of the Novena laptop and the creator of the Fomu project.
  • The Fomu was inspired by the Tomu, a project of past guest Tim Ansell
  • Raspberry Pi 4 announced with new specs. Dave not impressed.
  • The new Sparkfun Artemis Module puts TensorFlow lite onto a Cortex M4 processor with Bluetooth.
  • This is similar to the Audeme project (in a much smaller form factor) by Gerald and Bertrand.
  • Dave has made a video about how voice recognition was done in the 80s.
  • Udemy is moving to a model where creators must be exclusive. The video is by past guest of the show Robert Ferenec.
  • Chris is looking at buying a simple VNA.
  • The “Buy/Sell section” of the EEVblog forum links to auctions. Dave recommends finding labs that are shutting down.
  • Past guest Derek Kozel suggested to look at the HP 8753, based on this wonderful reference site.
  • Beware the phrase “Pulled from (a) working environment”
  • One last thing from Teardown, Kate Tempkin did an amazing talk about USB analyzers and software around decoding USB traffic.
  • Building a STM32 open source multimeter.
  • Simone Giertz (yep, also a past guest!) built a “Truckla” and showed how she did it!

Thanks to Billie Ward for the image of the “fantastically overpriced junk”


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 July 1, 2019  1h11m