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episode 134: Live from VRTO with Keram Malicki-Sanchez & Amelia Winger-Bearskin

On June 2nd, 2019 Team Human was invited by VRTO to host a live recording on virtual reality, story telling and time. Joining Douglas on stage, VRTO Founder, Keram Malicki-Sanchez followed by artist, technologist and organizer, Amelia Winger Bearskin.

Rushkoff discusses the origins of virtual reality and shares stories of exploring the limits of the medium with Timothy Leary and Terrence McKenna. Together Rushkoff, Malicki-Sanchez, and Winger-Bearskin ask how virtual reality can be used in storytelling, why good VR experiences shouldn't force us to do certain things, and how we might justify the use of virtual reality in the face of existential crises. It is a wide-ranging discussion that aims to challenge the underlying assumptions of VR's central operating system.

Keram Malicki-Sanchez founded VRTO in spring 2015. He is also the editor-in-chief of since 2008 and founder of FIVARS – the Festival of International Virtual and Augmented Reality Stories. 

Amelia Winger-Bearskin is an artist, technologist, and organizer who develops cultural communities at the intersection of art, technology, and education. She founded IDEA New Rochelle, which partnered with the NR Mayor’s office to develop citizen-focused VR/AR tools and was awarded the 2018 Bloomberg Mayors Challenge $1 million dollar grant to prototype their AR Citizen toolkit. 

A special thanks to the VRTO Team for producing this live event. 

Learn more about VRTO:

You can read written versions of Rushkoff’s show monologues at Medium. 

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On this episode you heard Fugazi’s “Foreman’s Dog” in the intro thanks to the kindness of the band and Dischord Records.

Team Human is a production of the laboratory for digital humanism at Queens CUNY. Our new producer is Josh Chapdelaine, Luke Robert Mason edited and mixed this show, and Stephen Bartolomei is a magical human who is still missed.


 2019-08-07  1h2m