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episode 271: The climate crisis is an oceans crisis

Welcome to episode 2 of our climate cluster. The more I prepared for this series, the more I realize there was a big blue gap in my understanding of climate change.

Oceans cover 70% of the earth, absorb 93% of the heat from the sun, and capture 30% of the carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. Forty percent of the world’s population lives within 60 miles of the coast, and half a billion people rely on oceans as their primary food source. As go the oceans, so goes humanity.

Ayana Elizabeth Johnson is the founder of the Urban Lab and the Ocean Collective, she’s held positions at the NOAA and the EPA, and was named by Outside Magazine as the most influential marine biologist of our time. And she’s able to do something a lot of people aren’t: communicate not just the science of climate change from the ocean perspective, but the role oceans play in the human story.

This is not a dry, complex disquisition on climate science. This is a vivid tour of the way oceans shape our lives, and the costs and consequences of reshaping them.

Book Recommendations:

Eat like a Fish by Bren Smith 

Water in Plain Sight by Judith D. Schwartz

Emergent Strategy by Adrian Marie Brown 

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 2019-11-04  1h14m