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episode 141: Deborah Cullinan "From the Community" + Ron Kim and Robert Hockett "Public Money"

Playing for Team Human today, CEO of Yerba Buena Center for the Arts, co-founder of Culture Bank, and Innovator in Residence at the Kauffman Foundation, Deborah Cullinan. Also playing for Team Human this week, New York State Assemblyman Ron Kim and Cornell Law Professor Robert Hockett. Plus, hear from Reverend Billy, who explains how Team Human supporters can be sainted at Earth Riot on Sunday, December 15.

Cullinan joins Team Human to discuss what it means to place artists and creativity at the center of thriving communities, ways to think about art as an important driver to lasting change, and how difficult it is to imagine a brighter future when our current basic needs are not met. "We need to think of art and creativity as part of a system."

New York State Assemblyman Ron Kim and Cornell Law Professor Robert Hockett discuss their proposal to create a new public money infrastructure that lifts up the caring economy, a "public Venmo" They speak about the importance of accessible and free infrastructure to exchange money, how money can work to capture people's values on a local level that currently go neglected, and how a banking system that serves humans might operate.

Team Human Podcast supporters can get sainted at Reverend Billy and the Church of Stop Shopping's Earth Riot on Sunday, December 15, at 2:00 PM at Joe's Pub at The Public. If you're a Patreon supporter and you'd like to attend, please email for tickets. If you're not a Patreon supporter, you can purchase tickets here:

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— Credits — 

Hosted by Douglas Rushkoff

Produced by Josh Chapdelaine

Audio Edited & Mixed by Luke Robert Mason

Music by Fugazi (On this Episode you heard “Foreman’s Dog” in the intro – thanks to the kindness of the band and Dischord Records.)

Special thanks to Stephen Bartolomei who is busy drumming to his own beat.

Team Human is a Production of the Laboratory for Digital Humanism at Queens College.


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