The Gray Area with Sean Illing

The Gray Area with Sean Illing takes a philosophy-minded look at culture, technology, politics, and the world of ideas. Each week, we invite a guest to explore a question or topic that matters. From the the state of democracy, to the struggle with depression and anxiety, to the nature of identity in the digital age, each episode looks for nuance and honesty in the most important conversations of our time. New episodes drop every Monday.

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episode 282: Paul Krugman on climate, robots, single-payer, and so much more


It’s cliché to call podcasts wide-ranging. But this conversation, with Nobel-prize winning economist and NY Times columnist Paul Krugman, really is. A sample of what we discuss:

- How economists mucked up the climate debate

- What a Democratic president should pass first

- The politics and policy of Medicare-for-all

- Krugman’s three-part test to determine whether a program needs to be paid for (don’t miss this!)

- Why Pete Buttigieg is wrong on tuition-free college 

- Why Andrew Yang is wrong on automation

- What the Obama administration got wrong, and right, in the financial crisis

- The means-testing vs. universal program debate is a false dichotomy 

- What it would take to revitalize the economies of middle and rural America

- The productivity puzzle

- The antitrust problem

- Geographic inequality

- Whether elite or mass opinion is the key constraint on policy ambition

- Path dependence in social welfare states

- Whether private insurers should exist 

And much more. Don’t miss this one.

References:

Krugman's upcoming book, Arguing with Zombies

Book recommendations:

An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding by David Hume 

Plagues and Peoples by William McNeil 

Collected essays of George Orwell


My book is available for pre-order! You can find it at www.EzraKlein.com.

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Producer and Editor - Jeff Geld

Researcher - Roge Karma

Engineer - Cynthia Gil

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 December 12, 2019  1h30m