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episode 88: Winston Sat At His Computer

A growing number of companies have turned to employee surveillance software to monitor their newly remote workforce. Basecamp, which has taken a hardline stance against surveillance of all kinds, decided to ban makers of this "tattleware" from integrating with our products. Basecamp CTO David Heinemeier Hansson comes on the show to talk about how a special "Moral Quandaries" team at the company made the decision and how surveillance systems poison the future of remote work.

Show Notes

Awair air quality monitor - 00:34

A presentation by DHH on "Why Air Quality Matters" - 1:15

DHH on Twitter - 1:55

Basecamp Terms of Service  -2:37

Until the End of the Internet policy - 2:46

Basecamp API - 3:54 - 4:09

Article by Drew Harwell of the Washington Post about employee surveillance - 5:10

REMOTE: Office Not Required by Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson - 8:53

The surveillance illustration from REMOTE - 9:00

GitHub repository for Basecamp policies - 14:00

Signal v. Noise post about the new policy - 14:21

Apple's "1984" commercial for the Macintosh - 17:10


 2020-05-19  19m