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Have you ever wondered how a book makes its journey to being a movie? Well, if you have, then this episode of Between the Lines is for you.

This is Martin's chat with John Carlin whose magnificent book Playing the Enemy was made into the Clint Eastwood directed film Invictus starring Morgan Freeman as Nelson Mandela.

The story of how that came to be is frankly one of the most amazing tales you'll ever hear.

Enjoy

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