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#509 – Cellular IoT with Jared Wolff


Welcome Jared Wolff of Circuit Dojo!

  • Jared is a graduate of the Rochester Institute of Technology (which Chris also considered attending). He did co-ops while there, like we talked about on last week’s episode.
  • While on co-op at Cisco, he was in the cable group and marveled at the techs doing repairs with magnet wire.
  • He is an east coast guy at heart, so he moved back to Connecticut eventually
  • Jared worked at Apple for a while, but the lifestyle is difficult because of time requirements and stressful travel. He was also there when Steve Jobs was still around and there was a bit of over the top hero worship.
  • Nordic’s early bluetooth chipset was the nRF8001, which was a transceiver over SPI (no micro)
  • Working for startups was interesting if you thrive on doing a lot of different things
  • Burnt out on his last startup, decided to ride his motorcycle up and down the west coast. He got sick and ended up diagnosing himself with Valley Fever, a fungal infection prevalent in one of the places he visited.
  • After healing up, he went to Taiwan for 4-6 monhs.
  • There is a semiconductor fabrication program at RIT. There is a silicon ingot in a display case out front there.
  • While recovering from burnout, a previous mentor hit him up for the IoT project.
  • Mix of international and domestic manufacturing in his past
  • A lot of military nearby in CT
  • Comparison quotes with Taiwan, it was only a few dollars more for domestic production.
  • Currently building a board with an nRF9160 module, the new cellular module from Nordic Semiconductor.
  • Current status of nRF9160 is that it is shipping and working on different carriers throughout the world on Cat M1 networks.
  • What does it take to get a modem talking to towers?
  • Modems abstract commands in software
  • Jared will be testing for FCC, ISED, CE
  • Working with Resin
  • The cellular module is pre-certified but carriers still want you to test your design on their network.
  • Verizon requires over the air firmware capabilities, in case something goes wrong. The nRF91 firmware OTA is on the application side, which is unusual.
  • Jared is hoping the modem will have bluetooth at somepoint as well. The external wideband antenna he is using might be good enough.
  • Crowdfunding had an external antenna included.
  • There are different categories of cellular service. Most cellphones operate with Cat 4 or Cat 6 connections. The higher the category, the faster the speed.
  • Cat M1 is the slowest on LTE. NB-IOT is different equipment, so it isn’t even considered to be LTE.
  • Based on the development from Nordic, Jared is using Zephyr to run his board.
  • It’s an Real Time Operating System, but “feels” like linux for embedded. Zephyr is built on top of the chip’s SDK. “West” is the downloader that pulls in necessary dependencies, based upon a definition file.
  • Huge library of boards available
  • Jared wrote a post on how to create your own drivers on Zephyr
  • The Device tree maintains swappability
  • The nRF91 board is based on the adafruit feather form factor. Jared had previously created the air quality wing, which had various sensors:
    • TVOC
    • Humidity / Temp
    • Particulate sensor
  • Compatibility matrix on the Nordic site
  • Chris recommends checking what kind of coverage you have with open signal.
  • Though the first board run is no longer for sale, some boards are available soon. You can get a discount on a board at jaredwolff.com/amphour
  • You can also follow along on Jared’s progress on his blog, where he also writes about firmware tests.


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 September 21, 2020  1h5m