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In this episode, we discuss a recent spate of dog poisonings in the UK, a new study that questions whether a canine's character changes with age, the practicality of doorbells for dogs, and we celebrate the tiniest Wagtastic Woof so far.

Just how likely is it that your dog is going to be poisoned? In The Twilight Bark, we take a look at some of the dangers that can be found in the great outdoors. Is your garden puppy-proofed or will you be in for a big surprise?

In the Doggler Effect, we examine the ways in which your dog's character changes as it ages.  A new study from a university in Budapest has shown that a dog continues to mentally develop well into its mid-life.  Is your dog a middle-aged Einstein, or is he still full of the joys of spring?

This time in Gadgets, Gizmos, and Gastronomy, we examine the practicality of doorbells for dogs.  Our presenter and dog nerd go head-to-head over whether it is a gimmick or an act of genius.  Would your dog use a doorbell, or would it turn you into a canine concierge?

And our Episode 6 Wagtastic Woof is an epic heroine in the tiniest possible body.  Tune in to hear how this awesome little animal has broken down barriers and made the impossible possible.

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 2020-11-01  35m
 
 
00:15  Caroline Bartley
Hello,
00:16
and
00:16
welcome
00:16
to
00:17
Talk2ThePaw,
00:18
a
00:18
podcast
00:19
that
00:19
celebrates
00:20
dogs
00:20
for
00:20
simply
00:21
being
00:21
wagtastic.
00:23
I'm
00:23
Caroline
00:23
Bartley,
00:23
and
00:25
with
00:25
the
00:25
help
00:25
of
00:26
canine
00:25
nerd,
00:26
Scott
00:27
Andrews
00:28
we'll
00:28
consider
00:28
how
00:29
and
00:29
why
00:30
these
00:30
fabulous
00:31
animals
00:31
make
00:32
such
00:32
a
00:32
huge
00:33
contribution
00:34
to
00:34
our
00:34
lives.
00:35
Leaves
00:36
are
00:36
falling
00:36
from
00:36
the
00:36
trees
00:37
and
00:37
the
00:37
days
00:37
are
00:37
getting
00:38
shorter
00:39
here
00:39
in
00:39
the
00:39
United
00:40
Kingdom.
00:40
It's
00:41
the
00:41
season
00:41
of
00:42
mists
00:42
and
00:43
mellow
00:43
fruitfulness,
00:43
according
00:44
to
00:44
the
00:44
poet
00:45
Keats.
00:46
But
00:46
despite
00:47
the
00:47
changing
00:47
seasons,
00:47
some
00:47
things
00:48
remain
00:48
reassuringly
00:48
familiar.
00:48
Episode
00:48
six
00:53
has
00:53
the
00:53
usual
00:53
array
00:54
of
00:54
tricks
00:55
and
00:55
treats
00:56
to
00:56
keep
00:56
you
00:56
entertained.
00:58
So
00:58
grab
00:58
a
00:58
large
00:59
handful
00:59
of
01:00
all
01:00
that
01:00
Halloween
01:01
confectionery.
01:02
The
01:02
kids
01:02
won't
01:02
notice
01:02
honestly
01:03
and
01:04
nestle
01:04
yourself
01:05
into
01:06
a
01:06
comfy
01:06
chair
01:07
for
01:07
the
01:07
next
01:07
30
01:08
minutes
01:08
or
01:08
so.
01:08
You
01:09
know
01:09
how
01:09
it
01:09
goes
01:09
by
01:10
now,
01:10
let's
01:10
get
01:11
started
01:12
with
01:12
The
01:12
Twilight
01:12
Bark.
01:18
We're
01:18
featuring
01:19
a
01:19
topic
01:20
in
01:20
this
01:20
episode
01:20
which
01:21
is
01:21
quite
01:21
distressing.
01:22
So
01:22
before
01:23
we
01:23
begin,
01:24
I
01:24
am
01:24
issuing
01:24
an
01:25
advisory
01:25
that
01:26
the
01:26
content
01:26
we
01:26
will
01:26
be
01:26
discussing
01:27
may
01:28
be
01:28
upsetting
01:29
to
01:29
some
01:29
people.
01:30
So
01:30
if
01:30
you
01:30
happen
01:30
to
01:31
be
01:31
listening
01:31
with
01:31
little
01:32
ones
01:32
in
01:32
your
01:32
household,
01:33
then
01:33
perhaps
01:34
it's
01:34
best
01:34
to
01:34
come
01:34
back
01:35
to
01:35
this
01:35
part
01:35
of
01:36
the
01:36
podcast
01:36
at
01:37
a
01:37
later
01:37
point.
01:37
Warning
01:38
over
01:39
let's
01:39
begin.
01:39
The
01:40
BBC,
01:41
York
01:41
press,
01:41
Daily
01:41
Record,
01:42
and
01:43
the
01:43
Southwest
01:43
Farmer
01:44
are
01:45
all
01:45
reporting
01:45
distressing
01:46
incidents
01:47
of
01:47
dogs
01:47
being
01:48
poisoned
01:49
in
01:49
varying
01:49
localities.
01:50
Some
01:51
of
01:51
these
01:51
cases
01:51
actually
01:52
resulting
01:53
in
01:53
animal
01:53
fatalities.
01:53
Pet
01:54
owners,
01:55
Local
01:55
Authorities,
01:56
Animal
01:56
Charities,
01:57
and
01:57
Police
01:58
have
01:58
been
01:58
placed
01:59
on
01:59
alert
02:00
as
02:00
investigations
02:01
into
02:01
the
02:01
various
02:02
incidents
02:02
begin
02:03
to
02:03
establish
02:04
the
02:04
exact
02:04
circumstances
02:05
of
02:05
what's
02:06
happened
02:06
in
02:06
each
02:06
case.
02:07
Thankfully
02:08
statistics
02:09
I
02:09
managed
02:09
to
02:09
garner,
02:09
seem
02:09
to
02:10
suggest
02:11
that
02:11
the
02:11
incidents
02:12
of
02:12
dog
02:12
poisoning
02:13
appears
02:13
to
02:13
be
02:14
quite
02:14
rare,
02:15
but
02:15
it
02:15
is
02:16
nevertheless
02:16
an
02:17
extremely
02:17
harrowing
02:17
situation.
02:18
In
02:19
2019
02:20
one
02:20
person
02:21
was
02:21
convicted
02:21
of
02:22
administering
02:23
poison
02:23
in
02:23
England,
02:23
that's
02:25
according
02:25
to
02:25
the
02:26
RSPC
02:26
and
02:27
in
02:27
2016,
02:28
the
02:28
charity
02:29
received
02:29
368
02:31
reports
02:32
of
02:32
dogs
02:33
being
02:33
poisoned.
02:34
Scott.
02:34
This
02:34
is
02:35
a
02:35
very,
02:35
very
02:36
difficult
02:37
topic
02:37
to
02:37
discuss,
02:38
but
02:38
it
02:39
does
02:39
need
02:39
highlighting.
02:40  Scott Andrews
It's
02:41
an
02:41
incredibly
02:42
tragic
02:42
topic
02:43
and
02:43
incredibly
02:43
troubling,
02:44
obviously
02:44
for
02:44
the
02:44
people
02:45
involved
02:45
it's
02:45
a
02:46
horrendous
02:47
incident.
02:48
But
02:48
one
02:48
of
02:48
the
02:48
biggest
02:48
problems
02:49
that
02:49
we're
02:49
faced
02:50
with
02:50
when
02:50
dealing
02:50
with
02:50
poisoning
02:51
is
02:52
that
02:52
no
02:52
matter
02:52
how
02:52
rigorous
02:53
the
02:53
investigation,
02:54
often,
02:54
the
02:54
course
02:55
has
02:55
never
02:55
determined.
02:56  Caroline Bartley
So
02:56
what
02:57
are
02:57
the
02:57
signs
02:58
of
02:58
poisoning
02:59
in
02:59
a
02:59
dog?
03:00  Scott Andrews
Very
03:00
often
03:00
it
03:00
depends
03:00
on
03:01
exactly
03:01
what
03:01
the
03:01
dog
03:01
was
03:02
poisoned
03:02
with,
03:03
but
03:03
certainly
03:04
you'll
03:04
see
03:04
things
03:04
like
03:05
vomiting,
03:05
diarrhea,
03:06
seizures,
03:08
blood
03:08
in
03:08
the
03:08
stool,
03:08
lethargy,
03:09
loss
03:09
of
03:09
appetite,
03:11
visible
03:11
bruising,
03:12
nosebleeds,
03:12
irregular
03:13
heartbeat.
03:13
And
03:13
one
03:14
of
03:14
the
03:14
more
03:14
unusual
03:14
ones
03:15
is
03:15
an
03:15
inability
03:16
to
03:16
urinate.
03:17  Caroline Bartley
Poisoning
03:17
can
03:17
occur
03:18
deliberately.
03:19
We
03:19
all
03:19
know
03:19
that,
03:20
but
03:20
it
03:20
can
03:21
also
03:21
happen
03:22
accidentally.
03:23
So
03:23
how
03:24
at
03:24
risk
03:25
are
03:26
our
03:26
dogs?
03:27  Scott Andrews
The
03:27
difficulty
03:28
is
03:28
it's
03:28
you
03:28
see
03:28
when
03:29
you
03:29
read
03:29
these
03:29
stories,
03:30
the
03:30
stories
03:30
refer
03:30
to
03:31
incidents
03:31
that
03:31
took
03:31
place
03:32
when
03:32
the
03:32
dog
03:32
and
03:32
the
03:32
owner
03:33
were
03:33
out
03:33
on
03:33
a
03:33
walk
03:33
together.
03:34
And
03:34
that's
03:34
probably
03:35
the
03:35
most
03:36
at-risk
03:35
environment
03:36
you
03:36
take
03:36
the
03:36
dog.
03:36
Certainly
03:37
in
03:37
your
03:38
own
03:38
home,
03:38
it's
03:38
much
03:38
easier
03:39
to
03:39
control
03:39
the
03:39
factors
03:40
that
03:40
come
03:41
about
03:41
on
03:41
a
03:41
daily
03:41
basis.
03:42
Now
03:42
there
03:42
are
03:43
literally
03:43
dozens
03:43
and
03:44
dozens
03:44
and
03:44
dozens
03:44
of
03:45
poisons
03:45
that
03:46
can
03:46
impact
03:46
dogs
03:47
differently.
03:47
Some
03:48
you'll
03:48
find
03:48
in
03:48
the
03:48
home,
03:48
some
03:49
you'll
03:49
find
03:49
in
03:49
the
03:49
kitchen,
03:49
some
03:50
you'll
03:50
find
03:50
in
03:50
the
03:50
garden.
03:51
Unfortunately,
03:52
this
03:52
would
03:52
require
03:53
an
03:53
entire
03:53
episode
03:54
on
03:54
its
03:54
own
03:54
.
03:55
So
03:55
what
03:55
I
03:55
want
03:56
to
03:56
do
03:56
is
03:56
just
03:57
focus
03:57
on
03:57
a
03:57
few
03:57
things
03:58
that
03:58
you
03:58
might
03:58
encounter
03:59
when
03:59
you're
03:59
out
03:59
for
04:00
a
04:00
walk.
04:00  Caroline Bartley
Yeah
04:00
so
04:00
just
04:01
narrow
04:01
it
04:01
down
04:01
for
04:01
us,
04:02
let's
04:02
draw
04:02
our
04:02
focus
04:03
in.
04:03  Scott Andrews
Yes.
04:04
And
04:04
one
04:04
of
04:04
the
04:04
things
04:05
that
04:05
surprises
04:06
people
04:06
the
04:06
most
04:06
is
04:07
the
04:07
number
04:07
of
04:08
common
04:09
flowers
04:09
or
04:09
plants
04:10
that
04:10
are
04:10
incredibly
04:11
dangerous
04:11
to
04:11
our
04:12
dogs.
04:12
Take
04:13
for
04:13
example,
04:13
azaleas
04:14
and
04:14
rhododendrons,
04:15
very
04:16
common
04:16
plants
04:16
many
04:16
of
04:16
us
04:17
have
04:17
in
04:17
our
04:17
gardens
04:18
and
04:18
they
04:18
happen
04:18
to
04:19
be
04:19
highly
04:19
poisonous.
04:20
It
04:20
just
04:21
takes
04:21
a
04:21
few
04:21
leaves
04:22
of
04:22
these
04:22
plants
04:22
to
04:23
make
04:24
our
04:24
dogs
04:24
badly
04:25
ill
04:25
.
04:25
Another
04:25
common
04:26
one
04:26
is
04:26
a
04:26
hedging
04:26
plant
04:27
you'll
04:27
find
04:27
in
04:28
many
04:28
public
04:29
parks,
04:29
it's
04:29
a
04:29
Cherry
04:30
Laurel.
04:30
This
04:31
is
04:31
probably
04:32
the
04:32
most
04:32
common
04:33
cause
04:33
of
04:33
poisoning
04:34
in
04:34
dogs.
04:35
And
04:35
as
04:35
I
04:35
say,
04:36
you
04:36
can
04:36
find
04:36
it
04:36
in
04:36
many
04:37
public
04:37
spaces.
04:39  Caroline Bartley
And
04:39
it's
04:39
because
04:39
what
04:40
do
04:40
they
04:40
ingest?
04:41
The
04:41
leaves?
04:42
They
04:42
ingest
04:42
flowers,
04:43
seeds
04:44
of
04:44
some
04:44
sort?
04:45  Scott Andrews
It's
04:45
the
04:45
leaves.
04:46
It's
04:46
almost
04:46
always
04:47
the
04:47
leaves.
04:48
Now,
04:48
a
04:48
lot
04:48
of
04:48
the
04:48
times
04:48
when
04:48
we're
04:49
out
04:49
for
04:49
a
04:49
walk
04:49
with
04:49
our
04:49
dogs,
04:50
if
04:50
we're
04:50
blatantly
04:51
honest,
04:51
when
04:51
they're
04:51
off
04:51
the
04:51
leash
04:51
our
04:51
eyes
04:52
aren't
04:52
on
04:52
them
04:52
all
04:53
the
04:53
time.
04:54
And
04:54
this
04:54
is
04:54
where
04:54
the
04:55
danger
04:55
stems
04:55
from.
04:55
The
04:55
list
04:56
goes
04:57
on.
04:57
It
04:57
includes
04:57
things
04:58
such
04:58
as
04:58
,
04:59
um
04:59
,
04:59
Castor
04:59
Oil
05:00
Bush
05:00
.
05:00
Unfortunately
05:01
the
05:01
oil
05:01
cakes
05:02
are
05:02
used
05:02
in
05:02
fertilizer.
05:03
The
05:03
troubling
05:03
aspect
05:04
here
05:04
is
05:04
these
05:04
little
05:04
cakes
05:06
look
05:06
very,
05:07
very
05:07
appealing
05:07
to
05:08
dogs.
05:08
Then
05:08
of
05:08
course,
05:09
there's
05:09
every
05:09
boy
05:09
Scouts
05:09
favorite
05:09
-
05:11
conkers.
05:14  Caroline Bartley
Oh?
05:14  Scott Andrews
You
05:14
know,
05:15
we
05:15
all
05:15
know
05:15
that
05:15
the
05:16
time
05:16
of
05:16
year
05:16
you'll
05:16
see
05:16
that
05:17
the
05:17
conkers
05:17
and
05:17
acorns
05:18
are
05:18
all
05:18
over
05:18
the
05:18
place,
05:18
their
05:20
harmless,
05:20
our
05:21
kids
05:21
pick
05:21
them
05:21
up,
05:21
we
05:21
might
05:22
take
05:22
them
05:22
home.
05:23
The
05:23
only
05:23
thing
05:23
is
05:23
they're
05:23
toxic
05:24
to
05:24
dogs.
05:26
In
05:26
rare
05:26
cases,
05:27
they
05:27
can
05:27
be
05:28
the
05:28
worst
05:28
kind
05:29
of
05:29
toxic.
05:29
They
05:29
cause
05:30
stomach
05:30
problems,
05:31
vomiting,
05:32
intestinal
05:32
blockages.
05:32
Another
05:34
one.
05:34
What's
05:35
their
05:35
flower
05:35
of
05:35
Wales.
05:36  Caroline Bartley
Well,
05:36
that's
05:36
the
05:37
daffodil.
05:37  Scott Andrews
Beautiful,
05:38
beautiful
05:38
daffodil
05:38
many
05:39
of
05:39
us
05:39
grow
05:40
in
05:40
springtime.
05:40
Unfortunately
05:41
every
05:42
single
05:42
part
05:43
of
05:43
a
05:43
daffodil
05:44
is
05:44
toxic
05:45
to
05:45
a
05:45
dog.
05:45
Planting
05:46
season
05:46
and
05:46
you're
05:47
putting
05:47
them
05:47
in
05:47
the
05:47
ground
05:48
and
05:48
you've
05:48
got
05:48
the
05:48
bulbs
05:49
on
05:49
the
05:49
ground
05:49
beside
05:49
you
05:50
and
05:50
the
05:50
dogs
05:50
are
05:50
running
05:50
around
05:50
the
05:50
garden.
05:51
If
05:51
the
05:51
dog
05:51
was
05:52
to
05:52
eat
05:52
the
05:52
bulb,
05:52
especially
05:53
if
05:53
it's
05:53
a
05:53
small
05:53
dog,
05:53
it
05:54
would
05:54
kill
05:54
it.
05:54  Caroline Bartley
As
05:54
a
05:54
keen
05:55
gardener,
05:56
whenever
05:56
I'm
05:57
planting,
05:57
digging
05:58
things
05:58
up
05:58
and
05:59
there
05:59
are
05:59
bulbs
05:59
around,
06:00
I'm
06:00
always
06:01
very,
06:01
very
06:01
conscious
06:02
of
06:02
the
06:02
fact
06:03
that
06:03
my
06:03
little
06:04
dog
06:04
could
06:04
ingest
06:05
something.
06:06
But
06:06
no
06:06
matter
06:06
how
06:07
careful
06:07
you
06:07
are,
06:08
there's
06:08
always
06:09
that
06:09
risk
06:09
there
06:10
in
06:10
the
06:10
back
06:10
of
06:10
your
06:11
mind
06:11
that
06:11
maybe
06:11
there's
06:12
a
06:12
stray
06:12
bulb
06:13
that
06:13
has
06:13
escaped
06:13
or
06:13
do
06:13
you
06:13
know
06:13
what
06:13
I
06:13
mean?
06:14  Scott Andrews
Absolutely.
06:16
And
06:16
it
06:16
runs
06:17
further
06:17
than
06:17
bulbs.
06:18
One
06:18
of
06:18
the,
06:19
probably
06:19
most
06:19
surprising
06:20
things
06:20
that
06:20
I
06:21
learned
06:22
when
06:22
researching
06:22
this
06:23
segment,
06:24
not
06:25
just
06:25
daffodils.
06:26
Okay.
06:27
But
06:27
the
06:27
water
06:28
that
06:28
daffodils
06:29
has
06:29
been
06:29
in.
06:30  Caroline Bartley
I
06:30
tend
06:30
to
06:30
have
06:31
random
06:31
pots
06:32
and
06:33
baskets
06:34
around
06:34
the
06:34
garden,
06:34
plastic
06:35
tubs
06:36
with
06:36
old
06:36
water
06:36
in
06:37
it,
06:37
simply
06:37
for
06:37
ease
06:38
of
06:38
watering
06:39
the
06:39
plants.
06:40
And
06:40
you're
06:40
making
06:40
me
06:40
very
06:40
scared
06:41
now.
06:42  Scott Andrews
I
06:42
understand
06:42
that
06:42
completely
06:43
jumping
06:43
back
06:44
in
06:44
to
06:44
my
06:44
list.
06:44
So
06:45
laburniums
06:46
is
06:46
that
06:46
right?
06:47  Caroline Bartley
Laburnums?
06:47  Scott Andrews
Excuse
06:48
me,
06:49
getting
06:49
all
06:49
latin
06:49
there.
06:50
Now
06:50
this
06:50
is
06:50
one
06:51
unique
06:51
part
06:51
in
06:51
the
06:51
sense
06:52
that
06:52
again,
06:52
like
06:53
the
06:53
daffodil,
06:54
all
06:54
parts
06:54
are
06:55
dangerous.
06:56
Now
06:56
the
06:56
seeds
06:56
especially,
06:58
but
06:58
even
06:58
the
06:58
bark,
06:59
even
07:00
twigs.
07:00  Caroline Bartley
Yeah.
07:01  Scott Andrews
They
07:01
would
07:01
all
07:02
be
07:02
hazardous
07:02
to
07:03
your
07:03
dog.
07:03
Yew
07:04
trees.
07:04  Caroline Bartley
Yes.
07:06  Scott Andrews
Now
07:06
again,
07:07
nearly
07:07
all
07:07
parts
07:08
of
07:08
the
07:08
yews,
07:08
even
07:09
dry
07:09
chippins,
07:10
but
07:11
the
07:11
worst
07:11
part
07:12
with
07:12
the
07:12
yews
07:12
is
07:12
the
07:12
leaves.
07:12
It
07:14
only
07:14
takes
07:15
30
07:15
grams
07:16
to
07:16
kill
07:16
a
07:16
dog.
07:17  Caroline Bartley
That's
07:17
not
07:17
a
07:17
lot.
07:18  Scott Andrews
That's
07:18
really
07:19
a
07:19
tiny
07:19
mouthful.
07:20
The
07:20
last
07:21
plant
07:21
that
07:21
I
07:21
can
07:21
think
07:22
of.
07:22
That
07:22
again
07:22
I
07:22
don't
07:22
think
07:23
it
07:23
is
07:23
that
07:23
much
07:23
more
07:23
common
07:24
in
07:24
the
07:24
garden,
07:24
but
07:24
you
07:24
do
07:24
find
07:25
it
07:25
in
07:25
bouquets,
07:25
so
07:25
maybe
07:26
you'll
07:26
throw
07:26
it
07:26
away
07:26
one
07:26
day.
07:26
Lilly
07:26
of
07:28
the
07:28
Valley,
07:28
it
07:28
contains
07:29
a
07:29
toxin
07:29
that
07:29
causes
07:30
vomiting,
07:30
diarrhea,
07:31
heart
07:31
problems
07:32
fits
07:32
and
07:32
collapsing,
07:33  Caroline Bartley
Which
07:33
looks
07:34
so
07:34
pretty,
07:34
but
07:34
is
07:35
in
07:35
fact
07:35
lethal
07:35
to
07:35
dogs.
07:36  Scott Andrews
Not
07:36
just
07:37
dogs
07:37
to
07:37
cats
07:38
as
07:38
well.
07:39
Obviously
07:40
we've
07:40
been
07:40
talking
07:40
about
07:40
flowers
07:40
and
07:41
plants,
07:41
and
07:41
I
07:41
imagine
07:42
you
07:42
think
07:42
about
07:42
gardens
07:43
and
07:43
you
07:43
think
07:43
about
07:44
public
07:44
spaces
07:44
like
07:45
parks
07:45
there
07:45
could
07:46
be
07:46
herbicides,
07:47
pesticides,
07:47
slug
07:49
pellets.
07:50
Then
07:51
you
07:51
think
07:51
of
07:51
the
07:51
common
07:52
insects
07:52
that
07:53
also
07:53
can
07:53
be
07:53
quite
07:54
dangerous.
07:55
Bees,
07:55
wasps,
07:55
and
07:55
hornets.
07:57  Caroline Bartley
The
07:57
stings
07:57
associated
07:58
with
07:58
those.
07:59  Scott Andrews
We
08:00
have
08:00
a
08:00
little
08:00
wildlife
08:00
question
08:01
for
08:01
you.
08:01
I
08:01
know
08:01
you
08:02
liked
08:02
your
08:02
Attenborough.
08:02
Can
08:03
you
08:03
name
08:03
the
08:04
one
08:04
poisonous
08:04
snake
08:05
that
08:05
resides
08:05
in
08:05
the
08:05
UK?
08:06  Caroline Bartley
The
08:06
one
08:07
poisonous
08:07
snake?
08:07
Well
08:07
,
08:07
the
08:08
only
08:08
snake
08:09
that
08:09
I
08:09
know
08:09
of
08:09
that
08:10
resides
08:10
in
08:10
the,
08:10
in
08:11
the
08:11
UK
08:12
is
08:12
an
08:12
adder,
08:12
but
08:13
I'm
08:13
not
08:13
even
08:13
sure
08:13
if
08:13
that's
08:13
poisonous.
08:14  Scott Andrews
It
08:14
is
08:15
indeed.
08:16
If
08:16
you
08:16
dog
08:16
happens
08:16
to
08:17
be
08:17
at
08:17
a
08:17
distance
08:17
and
08:17
your
08:18
dog
08:18
does
08:18
get
08:18
bitten
08:18
by
08:18
an
08:18
adder,
08:18
you
08:19
wouldn't
08:20
have
08:20
any
08:20
idea,
08:20
you
08:20
know,
08:20
it
08:21
could
08:21
be
08:21
gone
08:21
off
08:21
in
08:21
the
08:21
long
08:22
grass
08:22
or
08:22
wherever.
08:22  Caroline Bartley
Yeah.
08:23  Scott Andrews
Now
08:23
the
08:23
symptoms
08:24
to
08:24
look
08:24
out
08:24
for
08:24
are
08:24
swelling,
08:25
bleeding,
08:25
fever
08:26
and
08:26
seizures.
08:26
And
08:28
last
08:28
but
08:28
not
08:28
least
08:29
is
08:29
actually
08:29
something
08:30
that
08:31
baffled
08:31
vets
08:31
when
08:32
I
08:32
lived
08:32
in
08:32
the
08:32
Netherlands.
08:32  Caroline Bartley
Right.
08:35  Scott Andrews
There
08:35
was
08:35
a
08:35
period
08:36
in
08:36
one
08:36
of
08:36
the
08:36
years
08:36
I
08:36
was
08:36
living
08:36
there
08:36
whetr
08:37
a
08:37
number
08:37
of
08:37
dogs
08:38
become
08:38
ill
08:38
after
08:39
walking
08:39
in
08:39
the
08:39
forest
08:39
just
08:39
South
08:40
of
08:40
Amsterdam.
08:41
And
08:41
thetr
08:41
were
08:41
paranoid
08:42
media
08:42
reports
08:43
talking
08:43
about
08:44
poisonings,
08:44
you
08:44
know,
08:44
is
08:45
it
08:45
a
08:45
human
08:45
poisoning,
08:45
is
08:45
it
08:46
someone
08:46
with
08:46
a
08:47
vendetta
08:47
?
08:47
And
08:48
eventually
08:48
they
08:48
discovered
08:49
it
08:49
was
08:49
caused
08:49
by
08:49
blue
08:50
green
08:50
algae.
08:50  Caroline Bartley
By
08:50
algae?
08:50  Scott Andrews
Yes.
08:53
Now
08:54
this
08:54
blue-green
08:55
algae
08:56
is
08:56
deadly.
08:57
It
08:57
kills
08:57
pets
08:58
quickly.
08:58
Again,
08:59
you'd
08:59
see
08:59
vomiting
09:00
and
09:00
diarrhea,
09:00
breathing
09:01
difficulties,
09:02
you'd
09:02
see
09:02
fits.
09:03
Now
09:03
this
09:03
algae,
09:04
you
09:04
tend
09:04
to
09:04
see
09:05
late
09:05
spring
09:05
to
09:05
early
09:05
autumn.
09:05
The
09:06
thing
09:07
to
09:07
consider
09:07
is
09:08
if
09:08
you
09:08
have
09:08
a
09:08
dog
09:08
that
09:08
likes
09:09
dipping
09:09
in
09:09
and
09:09
out
09:09
of
09:09
the
09:09
water,
09:10
and
09:10
there
09:10
are
09:10
many
09:11
breeds
09:11
that
09:11
like
09:11
going
09:11
for
09:12
a
09:12
swim,
09:12
especially
09:13
on
09:13
a
09:13
hot
09:13
day,
09:14
you
09:14
have
09:14
to
09:14
be
09:14
ultra
09:14
cautious.
09:16
Now,
09:16
personally,
09:17
if
09:17
I'm
09:17
going
09:17
to
09:17
let
09:18
my
09:18
dog
09:18
in
09:18
for
09:18
a
09:18
drink,
09:19
if
09:19
I
09:19
see
09:20
any
09:20
algae
09:21
on
09:21
top
09:21
of
09:21
the
09:21
water,
09:22
I
09:22
see
09:22
that
09:22
the
09:23
water
09:23
is
09:23
still.
09:24  Caroline Bartley
Yeah
09:24
,
09:24
that's
09:24
never
09:24
usually
09:25
a
09:25
good
09:25
sign
09:25
is
09:25
it?
09:26  Scott Andrews
No
09:26
for
09:26
it
09:26
to
09:27
be
09:27
fresher
09:27
water,
09:27
you
09:28
need
09:28
to
09:28
see
09:29
at
09:29
least
09:29
a
09:29
current,
09:29
like
09:29
the
09:30
water
09:30
moving
09:30
by.
09:32  Caroline Bartley
So
09:32
what
09:32
should
09:32
you
09:32
do
09:32
if
09:33
you
09:33
think
09:33
your
09:33
dog
09:34
has
09:34
been
09:34
poisoned,
09:34
what
09:35
steps
09:35
should
09:36
you
09:36
take
09:36
?
09:37  Scott Andrews
To
09:37
borrow
09:37
a
09:37
line
09:37
from
09:38
dad's
09:38
army
09:39
don't
09:39
panic.
09:40  Caroline Bartley
Don't
09:40
panic
09:40
easier
09:41
said
09:41
than
09:41
done
09:42
though.
09:42
If
09:42
your
09:43
dog
09:43
is
09:43
,
09:44
is
09:44
swelling,
09:45
bleeding,
09:46
perhaps
09:46
fitting.
09:47  Scott Andrews
Obviously.
09:47
And
09:48
you
09:48
know,
09:48
your
09:48
priority
09:49
is
09:49
to
09:49
remove
09:49
the
09:49
dog
09:50
from
09:50
the
09:50
scene.
09:51
Immediately
09:52
because
09:52
you
09:52
don't
09:53
know
09:53
what's
09:53
there,
09:53
you
09:53
don't
09:53
know
09:53
what's
09:54
been
09:54
the
09:54
cause.
09:55
And
09:55
then
09:55
contact
09:56
your
09:56
vet
09:56
immediately,
09:57
inform
09:57
them
09:57
of
09:57
when
09:57
it
09:58
happened
09:58
and
09:58
where
09:59
it
09:59
happened.
10:00
If
10:00
by
10:00
any
10:00
chance
10:01
you
10:01
happen
10:01
to
10:01
have
10:01
recognized
10:02
that
10:02
your
10:02
dog
10:02
was
10:02
eating
10:02
something
10:02
before.
10:03
If
10:04
you
10:04
can
10:05
bag
10:05
it
10:05
up,
10:05
take
10:05
it
10:05
with
10:05
you.
10:06
And
10:06
then
10:06
follow
10:06
your
10:06
vet's
10:07
advice.
10:07
The
10:08
problem
10:08
is
10:08
there
10:09
isn't
10:09
such
10:09
a
10:09
thing
10:10
as
10:10
general
10:11
advice
10:11
for
10:11
this
10:11
topic
10:12
because
10:13
different
10:13
poisons
10:13
affect
10:14
the
10:14
body
10:14
in
10:14
different
10:14
ways.
10:15  Caroline Bartley
Yeah
10:15
there's
10:15
no
10:15
standard
10:16
protocol
10:17
as
10:17
such
10:17
because
10:18
each
10:18
poison
10:19
will
10:19
elicit
10:20
a
10:20
different
10:21
response
10:22
in
10:22
the
10:22
dog.
10:24  Scott Andrews
Absolutely.
10:24  Caroline Bartley
Okay.
10:25
We
10:25
were
10:25
talking
10:26
,
10:26
um,
10:26
about
10:27
leaves,
10:28
things
10:28
happening
10:29
in
10:30
the
10:30
garden,
10:31
susceptibility
10:32
of
10:32
dogs
10:33
to
10:34
general
10:35
snuffling
10:36
around
10:36
and
10:36
rooting
10:37
around
10:38
when
10:38
we're
10:38
taking
10:38
our
10:39
dogs
10:39
out
10:40
for
10:40
a
10:40
walk,
10:40
when
10:40
we're
10:41
letting
10:41
them
10:41
loose
10:42
in
10:43
the
10:43
garden,
10:43
practically,
10:44
how
10:45
can
10:45
we
10:45
keep
10:46
them
10:46
safe?
10:47  Scott Andrews
When
10:47
you're
10:47
at
10:47
home,
10:47
you
10:47
can
10:47
manage
10:48
the
10:48
environment.
10:49
Now
10:49
there
10:49
are
10:49
still
10:49
dangerous
10:50
chemicals
10:50
in
10:50
the
10:50
cupboards.
10:51
There's
10:51
still
10:51
chocolate.
10:52
There's
10:52
still
10:52
different
10:52
foods
10:53
that
10:53
can
10:54
be
10:54
poisonous,
10:54
but
10:54
you've
10:54
got
10:55
a
10:55
better
10:55
sense
10:55
of
10:56
control.
10:56
When
10:57
you
10:57
are
10:57
out
10:57
for
10:58
a
10:58
walk,
10:58
your
10:58
priority
10:59
has
10:59
to
10:59
be
10:59
environment
11:00
management.
11:01
Now
11:02
what
11:02
this
11:02
constitutes.
11:03
So
11:03
for
11:03
instance,
11:03
if
11:03
I'm
11:04
taking
11:04
my
11:04
dog
11:04
somewhere
11:04
new,
11:05
that
11:05
very
11:05
first
11:06
time,
11:06
even
11:06
if
11:06
it's
11:06
a
11:06
forest
11:07
or
11:08
a
11:08
beach,
11:08
I
11:09
am
11:09
not
11:09
going
11:09
to
11:09
let
11:09
him
11:10
off
11:10
the
11:10
leash.
11:11
And
11:11
the
11:11
reason
11:11
for
11:11
that
11:11
is
11:12
I
11:12
want
11:12
to
11:13
look
11:13
around.
11:13
I
11:13
want
11:13
to
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assess
11:14
what's
11:14
there,
11:14
assess
11:15
the
11:15
hazards
11:16
so
11:17
I
11:17
can
11:17
know
11:17
my
11:18
way
11:18
around.
11:18
And
11:19
that
11:19
will
11:19
enable
11:19
me
11:20
to
11:20
better
11:20
protect
11:21
my
11:21
dog
11:21
for
11:21
the
11:22
next
11:22
time
11:22
that
11:22
we
11:23
return
11:23
.
11:23
There
11:23
are
11:24
certain
11:25
commands
11:26
or
11:26
exercises,
11:27
so
11:27
to
11:27
speak,
11:28
that
11:28
you
11:28
can
11:28
train
11:28
with
11:28
your
11:29
dog,
11:29
that
11:29
you
11:29
can
11:29
train
11:30
for
11:30
safety.
11:31
My
11:32
own
11:32
dogs
11:32
do
11:32
a
11:32
few
11:33
different
11:33
tricks,
11:33
but
11:33
they
11:33
also
11:34
do
11:34
have
11:34
safety
11:35
drills
11:35
that
11:35
we
11:35
do
11:35
use.
11:36
The
11:36
most
11:37
obvious
11:37
one
11:37
would
11:37
be
11:37
recall.
11:39
If
11:40
your
11:40
dog
11:40
does
11:41
not
11:41
come
11:41
back,
11:41
when
11:42
you
11:42
call
11:42
it,
11:42
when
11:42
it's
11:42
off
11:43
the
11:43
leash,
11:44
you
11:44
shouldn't
11:44
be
11:45
letting
11:45
your
11:45
dog,
11:45
off
11:45
the
11:45
leash.
11:47
Then
11:47
there
11:47
are
11:47
a
11:47
number
11:47
of
11:48
other
11:48
common
11:48
exercises
11:49
such
11:49
as
11:49
leave
11:49
Wwhen
11:50
you
11:50
want
11:50
your
11:51
dog
11:51
to
11:51
back
11:51
away.
11:51
Drop
11:52
if
11:53
your
11:53
dog
11:53
has
11:54
something
11:54
in
11:54
his
11:54
mouth.
11:54
Wait
11:56
is
11:56
different
11:57
from
11:57
stay
11:57
for
11:57
me.
11:58
If
11:58
I'm
11:58
getting
11:58
my
11:58
dog
11:58
to
11:58
stay,
11:59
I
11:59
will
11:59
only
12:00
ever
12:00
do
12:00
that
12:00
face
12:00
to
12:00
face,
12:02
but
12:02
wait
12:02
to
12:02
my
12:02
dog
12:03
is
12:03
when
12:03
my
12:03
dog
12:03
is
12:03
walking
12:04
beside
12:04
me
12:04
or
12:04
walking
12:04
in
12:05
front
12:05
of
12:05
me
12:05
and
12:05
I
12:05
want
12:05
the
12:05
dog
12:06
to
12:06
stop.
12:07  Caroline Bartley
What
12:07
about
12:07
using
12:08
the
12:08
word
12:08
no?
12:09  Scott Andrews
The
12:10
problem
12:10
with
12:10
using
12:10
the
12:10
word
12:10
no
12:10
is
12:11
that
12:12
it
12:12
has
12:12
no
12:12
meaning
12:13
at
12:13
all
12:13
to
12:13
dogs
12:14
whatsoever.
12:15
A
12:15
lot
12:15
of
12:15
people
12:15
do
12:16
use
12:16
no
12:16
with
12:16
their
12:16
dogs,
12:17
but
12:17
they
12:17
use
12:17
it
12:18
in
12:18
so
12:18
many
12:18
contexts.
12:19  Caroline Bartley
That
12:19
the
12:20
dog
12:20
finds
12:20
it
12:20
hard
12:20
to
12:21
distinguish
12:21
what
12:22
it
12:22
actually
12:22
means
12:22
then?
12:23  Scott Andrews
Yeah.
12:23
You
12:23
know,
12:24
you
12:24
might
12:24
say
12:24
no
12:25
to
12:25
weeing
12:25
on
12:25
the
12:25
carpet.
12:25
No
12:25
to
12:25
eating
12:27
the
12:27
child.
12:27
No
12:29
to
12:29
sniffing
12:30
the
12:30
postman's
12:31
bottom.
12:32
There
12:32
are
12:32
so
12:33
many
12:33
different
12:33
no's,
12:33
it's
12:34
not
12:34
easy
12:34
and
12:34
it
12:34
can
12:35
be
12:35
a
12:35
little
12:35
bit
12:35
frustrating
12:36
for
12:36
the
12:36
dog.
12:36  Caroline Bartley
It
12:36
needs
12:36
to
12:36
be
12:36
action
12:37
specific
12:37
so
12:38
that
12:38
the
12:38
dog
12:38
understands.
12:39  Scott Andrews
Yeah
12:39
,
12:39
exactly.
12:40
When
12:40
you
12:40
make
12:40
it
12:40
action
12:41
specific,
12:41
you
12:41
can
12:41
create
12:42
artificial
12:43
drills
12:43
to
12:44
repeat,
12:44
repeat,
12:45
repeat,
12:45
repeat,
12:45
repeat,
12:46
to
12:46
build
12:47
a
12:47
strengthened
12:48
response
12:48
in
12:48
the
12:48
dog.
12:49
And
12:50
this
12:50
honestly,
12:51
it's
12:51
the
12:51
best
12:51
way
12:51
to
12:52
keep
12:52
safe.
12:52
And
12:52
I
12:53
beg
12:53
of
12:53
every
12:53
person
12:54
who
12:54
says,
12:55
you
12:55
know,
12:55
dogs
12:55
should
12:55
be
12:56
dogs.
12:56
You
12:56
know
12:56
,
12:56
I'm
12:56
not
12:57
going
12:57
to
12:57
train
12:57
my
12:57
dog.
12:58
Now
12:58
you
12:58
don't
12:59
have
12:59
to
12:59
train
12:59
your
12:59
dog
12:59
to
12:59
become
13:00
a
13:00
circus
13:00
performer,
13:01
but
13:02
you
13:02
must
13:02
train
13:02
your
13:02
dog
13:03
to
13:03
be
13:03
safe
13:03
.
13:03  Caroline Bartley
Yeah.
13:04
On
13:04
a
13:04
basic
13:04
level
13:05
of
13:05
discipline
13:06
is
13:06
advisable
13:07
really
13:08
for
13:08
the
13:09
dog's
13:09
safety
13:10
first
13:10
and
13:10
foremost.
13:11  Scott Andrews
Absolutely.
13:11
You're
13:12
doing
13:12
it
13:12
for
13:12
their
13:12
benefit.
13:13
So
13:14
to
13:14
summarize,
13:15
if
13:15
you
13:15
want
13:15
to
13:16
keep
13:16
your
13:16
dog
13:16
safe,
13:17
don't
13:17
just
13:18
trust
13:18
in
13:19
the
13:19
fact
13:19
that
13:19
things
13:19
are
13:20
going
13:20
to
13:20
be
13:20
okay,
13:21
train
13:22
your
13:22
dog.
13:22
If
13:23
you
13:23
train
13:23
your
13:23
dog
13:24
,
13:25
um
13:25
,
13:25
using
13:25
these
13:25
safe
13:25
commands
13:26
that
13:26
I've
13:26
been
13:26
discussing,
13:27
your
13:28
dog
13:28
has
13:28
the
13:29
best
13:29
chance
13:29
of
13:29
responding
13:30
to
13:30
you.
13:30
You
13:30
have
13:31
the
13:31
best
13:31
chance
13:32
of
13:32
keeping
13:32
your
13:32
dog
13:32
safe
13:33
when
13:33
you're
13:33
out
13:33
there
13:34
in
13:34
the
13:34
wild
13:34
world.
13:49  Caroline Bartley
I've
13:49
left
13:49
the
13:49
comfort
13:50
of
13:50
my
13:50
presenter's
13:51
chair
13:51
to
13:51
wander
13:52
down
13:52
to
13:52
the
13:52
lab
13:52
at
13:52
Paw
13:52
HQ.
13:52
And
13:55
time