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episode 3: Flatwoods Monster [transcript]


Tonight we’ll share the tale of some high strangeness that landed on a hilltop in 1950s West Virginia, terrifying local residents and living on in local lore.

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 2020-10-27  45m
 
 
00:00  Speaker 1
I'm
00:00
Jen
00:01
Sullivan
00:01
and
00:01
I'm
00:02
Jen
00:02
Lee
00:02
.
00:03
And
00:03
we'd
00:03
like
00:03
to
00:03
welcome
00:03
you
00:04
to
00:04
beneath
00:04
your
00:04
bed,
00:05
a
00:05
podcast
00:05
where
00:06
we
00:06
drag
00:06
out
00:06
all
00:07
those
00:07
fears
00:07
that
00:07
lurk
00:08
beneath
00:08
our
00:08
beds
00:09
from
00:09
the
00:09
paranormal
00:10
to
00:10
true
00:10
crime,
00:11
to
00:11
the
00:12
simply
00:12
strange
00:13
along
00:13
the
00:13
way,
00:13
we'll
00:14
be
00:14
drinking
00:14
cocktails
00:15
and
00:15
sharing
00:15
stories
00:16
from
00:16
our
00:16
Appalachian
00:17
upbringings.
00:18
Tonight,
00:18
we'll
00:18
share
00:19
a
00:19
tale
00:19
of
00:19
some
00:19
high
00:20
strangeness
00:20
that
00:21
landed
00:21
on
00:21
a
00:21
Hilltop
00:22
in
00:22
1950s,
00:23
West
00:23
Virginia,
00:24
terrifying
00:25
local
00:25
residents
00:26
and
00:26
living
00:26
on
00:27
in
00:27
local
00:28
lore.
00:29
We
00:29
want
00:29
to
00:29
give
00:29
a
00:29
special
00:29
thanks
00:30
to
00:30
Colby
00:31
white
00:31
AKA
00:31
captain
00:32
catfish
00:32
for
00:33
letting
00:33
us
00:33
use
00:33
his
00:34
song.
00:34
Phantom
00:34
of
00:35
flatwoods
00:35
during
00:35
an
00:35
ultra
00:36
tonight.
00:36
Thank
00:37
you,
00:37
Colby.
00:42  Speaker 2
Jen,
00:43
how
00:43
are
00:43
you?
00:44
I'm
00:44
doing
00:44
great.
00:44  Speaker 1
Great
00:44
.
00:44
How
00:44
are
00:44
you?
00:45
I'm
00:45
doing
00:46
well.
00:46
It's
00:46
been
00:46
a
00:46
good
00:46
day.
00:47
What
00:47
have
00:47
you
00:47
been
00:47
up
00:47
to?
00:48
It's
00:48
been
00:48
a
00:48
really
00:48
good
00:49
day
00:49
to
00:49
day
00:49
.
00:49
Got
00:50
together
00:50
with
00:50
my
00:50
family
00:51
and
00:52
had
00:52
some
00:52
local
00:53
cuisine.
00:54
And
00:54
unless
00:54
you're
00:55
from
00:55
this
00:55
area,
00:55
be
00:55
completely
00:56
disgusted
00:57
by
00:57
it.
00:58
As
00:58
popular
00:59
in
00:59
the
00:59
Delaware,
01:00
Maryland,
01:00
Virginia
01:01
area.
01:01
I
01:01
had
01:02
some
01:02
steam
01:02
crabs
01:03
with
01:03
lots
01:03
of
01:03
old
01:04
Bay.
01:04
I
01:04
love
01:05
old
01:05
Bay,
01:06
but
01:06
you
01:06
don't
01:06
like
01:06
the
01:07
crabs.
01:07
I
01:07
know
01:07
you
01:07
think
01:07
it's
01:08
barbaric.
01:08
Remember
01:09
when
01:09
we
01:09
went
01:09
out
01:09
for
01:09
crabs
01:10
together
01:10
and
01:10
you
01:10
said
01:11
it
01:11
looked
01:11
like
01:11
I
01:11
was
01:11
going
01:11
to
01:11
cry.
01:12
Yeah.
01:13
I
01:13
thought
01:13
you
01:13
were
01:13
just
01:14
a
01:14
little
01:14
too.
01:15
I
01:15
don't
01:15
know
01:15
hands-on
01:16
for
01:16
where
01:17
are
01:17
you
01:17
going
01:17
to
01:17
cry
01:17
or
01:17
you
01:18
just
01:18
look
01:18
that
01:18
way?
01:19
I
01:19
think
01:19
I
01:19
probably
01:19
just
01:20
looked
01:20
that
01:20
way.
01:20
I
01:20
think
01:21
you're
01:21
a
01:21
drunk
01:21
that
01:22
night.
01:22
It
01:22
was
01:23
just
01:23
my
01:23
glassy
01:23
high
01:23
drunk
01:24
look
01:24
.
01:25
I
01:26
was
01:26
drunk
01:26
.
01:27
And
01:27
remember,
01:27
like,
01:27
there
01:27
was
01:27
this
01:28
really
01:28
bad
01:28
storm
01:28
that
01:28
came
01:29
through
01:29
too.
01:30
And
01:30
there
01:30
were
01:30
these
01:30
tornado
01:31
warning
01:31
.
01:31
There
01:31
were
01:31
some
01:31
spouts
01:32
that
01:32
we
01:32
were
01:32
seeing
01:32
on
01:33
the
01:33
water,
01:33
but
01:33
we
01:33
didn't
01:33
want
01:34
to
01:34
say
01:34
anything
01:34
to
01:34
you
01:36
because
01:36
I
01:36
was
01:36
so
01:36
fragile.
01:37
I'm
01:37
a
01:37
delicate
01:37
flower.
01:38
You
01:38
would
01:38
have
01:38
been
01:38
too
01:38
drunk
01:39
to
01:39
get
01:39
out
01:39
of
01:39
there.
01:39
Anyway,
01:41
I
01:41
wouldn't
01:41
have
01:41
known
01:41
what
01:42
hit
01:42
me.
01:42
Oh
01:43
my
01:43
gosh.
01:43
I
01:43
had
01:43
a
01:43
good
01:43
day
01:44
too
01:44
.
01:44
I,
01:44
mine
01:44
was
01:45
not
01:45
as
01:45
,
01:46
um,
01:46
culinarily
01:47
pleasant
01:48
as
01:48
yours,
01:48
but
01:48
I
01:49
sat
01:49
out
01:50
on
01:50
my
01:50
balcony
01:51
this
01:51
afternoon
01:52
and
01:52
listened
01:52
to
01:52
the
01:53
Sundays
01:53
with
01:53
Dracula.
01:54
I
01:54
don't
01:54
know
01:54
if
01:54
you'd
01:54
call
01:54
it
01:55
a
01:55
podcast.
01:55
It's
01:55
more
01:55
of
01:55
a
01:56
,
01:56
a
01:56
web
01:56
broadcast
01:57
and
01:57
it
01:57
comes
01:58
every
01:58
Sunday.
01:58
We
01:59
discussed
01:59
a
01:59
different
01:59
chapter
02:00
or
02:00
they,
02:00
they
02:00
discuss
02:01
a
02:01
different
02:01
chapter
02:01
of
02:02
Dracula.
02:02
So
02:03
this
02:03
week
02:04
it
02:04
was
02:04
chapter
02:04
16,
02:05
which
02:05
is
02:05
where
02:06
Lucy
02:06
Western
02:07
rock
02:07
.
02:07
She
02:07
gets
02:07
staked
02:08
through
02:08
the
02:08
heart.
02:08
So
02:09
it's
02:09
like
02:09
super
02:10
graphic
02:10
and
02:11
kind
02:11
of
02:11
sexual
02:12
in
02:12
a
02:12
certain
02:12
way.
02:12
So
02:13
they
02:13
were
02:13
all
02:13
over
02:13
that.
02:14
And
02:14
there
02:14
was
02:14
this
02:14
scholar.
02:15
Um
02:15
,
02:15
his
02:15
name
02:15
is
02:15
David
02:16
skull
02:16
.
02:16
He's
02:16
this
02:16
film
02:17
historian
02:17
who
02:17
specializes
02:18
in
02:19
writing
02:19
about
02:19
monster
02:20
movies.
02:20
And
02:21
he
02:21
does
02:21
a
02:21
lot
02:21
of
02:22
horror
02:22
stuff.
02:23
So
02:23
he
02:23
was
02:23
there.
02:23
He
02:24
was
02:24
really
02:24
interesting.
02:24
It
02:24
was
02:25
interesting
02:25
to
02:25
hear
02:25
from
02:25
him.
02:26
So
02:26
it
02:26
was
02:26
cool.
02:26
It
02:26
was
02:27
just
02:27
like
02:27
a
02:27
mellow
02:27
day.
02:28
So
02:28
those
02:28
people
02:28
aren't
02:29
like
02:29
super
02:29
intense.
02:30
No,
02:30
in
02:30
fact,
02:31
on,
02:32
on
02:32
the
02:32
,
02:32
um,
02:33
cause
02:33
it
02:33
was
02:33
just
02:33
the
02:33
host
02:34
and
02:34
then
02:34
the
02:34
two
02:34
special
02:35
guests
02:35
who
02:35
were
02:35
chatting.
02:36
So
02:36
everybody
02:37
else
02:37
uses
02:37
the,
02:38
like
02:38
they
02:38
were
02:38
actually
02:38
talking,
02:39
but
02:39
the
02:39
rest
02:39
of
02:39
us
02:39
were
02:39
just
02:40
using
02:40
the
02:40
chat
02:40
box
02:41
on
02:41
cause
02:41
it's
02:41
over
02:42
zoom.
02:42
And
02:43
uh,
02:43
you
02:43
know,
02:43
some
02:43
people
02:44
are
02:44
really
02:44
serious
02:44
and
02:44
have
02:45
these
02:45
really
02:45
intellectual
02:46
comments
02:46
and
02:47
other
02:47
people
02:47
were
02:47
like,
02:47
Oh,
02:47
he
02:48
said
02:48
the
02:48
word
02:48
voluptuous
02:49
again.
02:49
Let's
02:49
drink.
02:50
So
02:51
cause
02:51
Stoker
02:51
uses
02:52
the
02:52
word
02:52
voluptuous
02:53
over
02:53
and
02:53
over
02:53
to
02:54
talk
02:54
about
02:54
the
02:54
female
02:55
vampires.
02:56
I
02:56
think
02:57
I
02:57
might
02:57
laugh.
02:58
You
02:58
know
02:58
how
02:58
I
02:58
get,
02:59
I
02:59
nervous
03:00  Speaker 3
Laugh.
03:01
I
03:01
think
03:01
you
03:01
probably
03:01
would
03:02
laugh
03:02
at
03:02
some
03:02
of
03:02
it.
03:02
And
03:02
honestly,
03:03
some
03:03
of
03:03
it
03:03
is
03:03
laughable.
03:04
I
03:04
mean,
03:05
you
03:05
know,
03:05
and
03:05
a
03:05
lot
03:05
of
03:05
these
03:06
scholars,
03:06
they
03:06
like
03:06
to
03:06
sexualize
03:07
everything.
03:08
So
03:09
then
03:09
a
03:09
hundred
03:09
percent
03:10
I
03:10
would
03:10
laugh
03:10
at
03:10
it.
03:10
And
03:11
when
03:11
people
03:12
take
03:12
themselves
03:12
too
03:12
seriously,
03:13
that
03:14
makes
03:14
me
03:14
crack
03:15
up.
03:15
Sometimes
03:15
I
03:15
just
03:15
can't
03:16
stop.
03:18
It
03:18
is
03:18
funny.
03:19
Sometimes
03:19
I
03:19
worry.
03:19
Like
03:19
I'm
03:20
totally
03:20
having
03:21
an
03:21
expectation
03:21
like
03:22
that
03:22
and
03:22
it
03:22
worries
03:22
me,
03:23
but
03:23
yeah,
03:24
you're
03:24
not
03:24
a
03:24
jackass
03:25
about
03:26
it.
03:26
There's
03:26
this
03:27
one
03:27
guy
03:27
on
03:27
there.
03:27
And
03:27
I
03:28
really
03:28
like
03:28
him.
03:28
He
03:28
actually
03:29
teaches
03:29
the
03:29
Dracula
03:29
class,
03:30
but
03:30
he
03:30
smokes
03:30
a
03:30
pipe.
03:31
And
03:31
recently
03:32
I
03:32
was
03:32
like,
03:32
damn,
03:33
I
03:33
want
03:33
to
03:33
smoke.
03:35
Just
03:35
like,
03:35
why
03:35
should
03:35
men
03:35
be
03:36
the
03:36
only
03:36
ones
03:36
who
03:36
get
03:36
to
03:37
like
03:37
act
03:37
all
03:38
scholarly
03:39
and
03:39
smoke
03:39
a
03:39
damn
03:39
pipe.
03:40
I
03:40
want
03:40
to
03:40
do
03:40
it
03:41
to
03:41
you
03:41
would
03:41
be
03:41
so
03:41
sick.
03:42
I
03:42
think
03:43
I
03:43
probably
03:43
would.
03:43
I'd
03:43
feel
03:44
cool
03:44
as
03:44
hell.
03:44
If
03:44
I
03:44
smoked
03:45
a
03:45
pipe,
03:45
smoke
03:45
a
03:45
bowl.
03:46
Well,
03:46
that's
03:47
what
03:47
we're
03:47
doing
03:47
on
03:47
my
03:47
50th
03:48
birthday.
03:50
I'm
03:50
not
03:51
waiting
03:51
until
03:51
your
03:51
50th
03:52
birthday.
03:52
God
03:53
damn
03:53
it
03:54
so
03:54
well
03:54
without
03:55
further
03:55
ado,
03:55
I
03:55
guess
03:56
we
03:56
should
03:56
get
03:56
into
03:56
our
03:56
story.
03:57
So
03:57
what
03:57
are
03:57
you
03:58
having
03:58
to
03:58
drink
03:58
tonight?
03:58
What
03:59
are
03:59
we
03:59
drinking?
03:59
God,
04:00
we
04:00
are
04:00
just,
04:00
you're
04:01
so
04:01
obsessed
04:01
with
04:01
the
04:01
substances
04:05
I'm
04:05
having.
04:07
Um,
04:07
I
04:07
th
04:07
there's
04:08
not
04:08
a
04:08
title
04:08
for
04:08
it,
04:08
but
04:09
I
04:09
did
04:09
look
04:09
at
04:09
it
04:09
.
04:09
It
04:09
wasn't
04:10
something
04:10
where
04:10
I
04:10
just
04:10
dumped
04:11
a
04:11
bunch
04:11
of
04:11
stuff
04:12
on
04:12
my
04:12
drink
04:12
.
04:12
Like
04:12
I
04:13
do
04:13
sometimes
04:14
and
04:14
get
04:14
carried
04:14
away.
04:15
I
04:15
saw
04:15
it
04:15
in
04:15
a
04:15
magazine.
04:16
I
04:16
can't
04:16
remember
04:17
which
04:17
one,
04:17
but
04:18
I
04:18
picked
04:18
up
04:19
some
04:19
little
04:19
split
04:20
bottles
04:20
of
04:20
champagne
04:21
tonight.
04:22
I
04:22
love
04:22
those.
04:22
Those
04:22
are
04:22
great.
04:23
And
04:24
I
04:24
spent
04:24
$150
04:26
tonight
04:26
on
04:27
booze
04:27
.
04:27
Did
04:27
you
04:27
really,
04:28
what
04:28
did
04:28
you
04:28
buy
04:28
bought
04:28
some
04:29
Quantro
04:30
Lou
04:31
carousel
04:31
.
04:31
I
04:32
bought
04:32
some
04:32
more
04:33
vodka
04:34
cause
04:34
I've
04:34
been
04:34
going
04:34
through
04:34
that
04:35
and
04:35
then
04:35
I
04:36
bought
04:36
some
04:37
gasolines
04:37
,
04:38
um,
04:38
rum
04:38
,
04:39
and
04:39
then
04:39
I
04:39
bought,
04:39
Oh
04:39
my
04:40
God.
04:40
And
04:40
then
04:40
I
04:40
bought
04:40
the
04:41
splits
04:41
cause
04:41
I'm
04:41
like,
04:42
you
04:42
know,
04:42
there's
04:42
so
04:42
many
04:42
times
04:42
I
04:43
want
04:43
to
04:43
try
04:44
have
04:44
a
04:44
certain
04:44
drink
04:45
and
04:45
then
04:46
I
04:46
don't
04:46
have
04:46
this
04:46
.
04:46
I
04:46
don't
04:47
have,
04:47
it
04:47
is
04:47
very
04:47
frustrating.
04:48
So
04:48
then
04:48
I'm
04:48
having
04:48
to
04:48
substitute.
04:50
That
04:50
is
04:50
frustrating
04:50
when
04:51
you,
04:51
I
04:51
mean,
04:51
it
04:51
can
04:51
be,
04:51
you
04:51
can
04:52
lead
04:53
to
04:53
interesting
04:53
inventions
04:54
too,
04:54
but
04:55
it's
04:55
just
04:55
fun
04:55
watching
04:56
your
04:56
booze
04:56
accumulate.
04:57
We
04:57
totally
04:58
sound
04:58
like
04:58
drunks,
04:58
but
04:59
I
04:59
went
04:59
to
04:59
the
04:59
liquor
05:00
store
05:00
on
05:00
was
05:01
that
05:01
Friday,
05:02
Friday,
05:02
late
05:02
afternoon.
05:03
And
05:03
I
05:03
got
05:03
some
05:04
sham
05:04
board
05:05
and
05:05
some
05:06
also
05:07
some
05:07
splits,
05:07
those
05:07
things
05:08
are
05:08
so
05:08
handy.
05:09
And
05:09
then
05:09
I
05:09
got
05:09
something
05:10
else.
05:10
What
05:10
was
05:11
the
05:11
other
05:11
thing
05:12
I
05:12
can't
05:13
remember,
05:13
but
05:13
just,
05:14
Oh,
05:14
lemon
05:14
cello.
05:14
I've
05:14
got
05:14
some
05:15
lemon
05:15
cello,
05:15
so
05:16
that's
05:16
the
05:16
best
05:17
I'm
05:17
running
05:17
out
05:18
of
05:18
room
05:18
and
05:19
most
05:20
of
05:20
it
05:20
is
05:20
still
05:20
stashed
05:21
in
05:21
my
05:21
car.
05:21
So
05:21
I
05:21
think
05:22
I'll
05:22
bring
05:22
it
05:22
in
05:23
later
05:23
on
05:23
tonight
05:24
when
05:24
my
05:24
wife
05:24
is
05:25
in
05:25
bed,
05:25
because
05:25
I
05:25
don't
05:26
want
05:27
her
05:27
to
05:27
see
05:28
me
05:28
carrying
05:28
the
05:29
wonder
05:29
to
05:29
know
05:29
how
05:29
much
05:29
you
05:29
bought.
05:30
I
05:30
bought
05:31
this
05:31
whole
05:31
box
05:32
of
05:32
,
05:32
of
05:32
alcohol.
05:33
I
05:33
don't
05:33
think
05:34
she's
05:34
going
05:35
to
05:35
start
05:35
to
05:35
think
05:35
that
05:35
I
05:35
have
05:36
a
05:36
problem.
05:37
Yeah
05:37
,
05:37
you
05:37
don't.
05:37
I
05:37
mean,
05:38
as
05:38
we
05:38
were
05:38
discussing,
05:39
I
05:39
think
05:39
last
05:40
night,
05:40
I
05:40
think
05:41
you
05:41
said
05:41
you
05:41
grow
05:41
into
05:42
drinking.
05:42
Like
05:42
we're
05:43
not
05:43
doing
05:43
it
05:43
to
05:43
get
05:44
drunk
05:44
where
05:44
we
05:45
enjoy
05:45
the
05:45
flavor.
05:45
Again.
05:46
I'm
05:46
also
05:47
drinking
05:48
from
05:48
a
05:48
depression
05:49
glass
05:49
that
05:49
the
05:50
two
05:50
of
05:50
us,
05:50
we
05:50
went
05:51
antiquing
05:51
and
05:51
I
05:52
bought
05:52
it
05:52
and
05:52
it's
05:53
green
05:53
and
05:53
it
05:53
looks
05:54
like
05:54
it's
05:55
glowing
05:55
.
05:55
Well,
05:55
that
05:55
makes
05:56
me
05:56
think.
05:57
And
05:57
I
05:57
think
05:57
I
05:57
remember
05:58  Speaker 1
This
05:58
glass
05:58
.
05:58
I,
05:59
I
05:59
wonder
05:59
if
05:59
it's
06:00
what
06:00
they
06:00
call
06:01
uranium
06:01
glass.
06:02
That
06:02
if
06:02
you
06:02
put
06:02
it
06:02
under
06:02
a
06:02
black
06:03
light,
06:03
it
06:03
actually
06:04
glows.
06:04
It
06:04
looks
06:05
,
06:05
um,
06:05
it's
06:05
the
06:06
word
06:06
for
06:06
it?
06:06
Like
06:06
it
06:07
Lorez
06:07
fluorescent.
06:08
Yeah.
06:08
So
06:09
you
06:09
should
06:09
get
06:09
a
06:09
little
06:10
blacklight
06:10
and
06:10
see,
06:11
it
06:11
might
06:11
actually
06:11
be
06:12
that
06:12
uranium
06:13
stuff.
06:13
It's
06:13
cool.
06:14
Cause
06:14
when
06:14
you
06:14
said
06:14
that
06:14
it's
06:15
going
06:15
well,
06:15
that
06:16
actually
06:16
that
06:16
like
06:17
feeds
06:17
into
06:17
the
06:17
story
06:18
that
06:18
I'm
06:18
about
06:18
to
06:18
tell
06:19
perfectly.
06:19
You
06:20
didn't
06:20
tell
06:20
me
06:20
what
06:20
you're
06:20
having.
06:21
Well,
06:21
mine
06:22
is
06:22
not
06:22
as
06:22
exciting
06:23
as
06:23
yours,
06:23
but
06:23
it's
06:23
a
06:24
French
06:24
75.
06:25
You
06:25
had
06:25
mentioned
06:25
that
06:25
earlier.
06:26
I
06:26
think
06:26
a
06:26
couple
06:27
of
06:27
weeks
06:27
ago.
06:27
And
06:27
I
06:27
was
06:28
like,
06:28
God,
06:28
that
06:28
sounds
06:28
really
06:28
good.
06:29
So
06:29
yeah,
06:29
it's
06:30
great.
06:30
I
06:30
love
06:30
that
06:30
taste
06:31
of
06:31
the
06:31
gin
06:31
combined
06:32
with
06:32
the
06:32
champagne.
06:33
And
06:33
then
06:33
of
06:33
course
06:33
the
06:33
fresh
06:34
lemon
06:34
juice
06:35
it
06:35
is
06:36
when
06:36
I
06:36
was
06:36
looking
06:36
up
06:37
the
06:37
recipe
06:37
in
06:37
there,
06:38
a
06:38
bunch
06:38
of
06:38
different
06:38
ways
06:38
you
06:38
can
06:39
make
06:39
a
06:39
French
06:39
75,
06:40
I
06:40
think
06:40
like
06:40
different
06:40
variations.
06:41
But
06:41
somebody
06:42
had
06:42
said,
06:42
is
06:43
this
06:43
a
06:43
girly
06:43
drink?
06:44
And
06:44
I'm
06:44
thinking,
06:44
well,
06:44
that's
06:45
a
06:45
rude
06:45
thing
06:45
to
06:45
ask,
06:46
but
06:46
it's
06:46
actually
06:47
named
06:47
after
06:48
a
06:48
kind
06:48
of
06:48
artillery
06:49
from
06:49
world
06:49
war
06:49
one.
06:50
And
06:50
that's
06:50
why
06:51
it's
06:51
called
06:51
French
06:52
75
06:52
.
06:52
So
06:53
because
06:53
it'll
06:53
knock
06:53
you
06:53
on
06:53
your
06:53
ass.
06:54
That's
06:54
right.
06:54
So
06:55
hopefully
06:55
I
06:55
will
06:55
not
06:56
be
06:56
on
06:56
my
06:56
ass,
06:56
but
06:57
by
06:57
the
06:57
end
06:57
of
06:57
this
06:57
episode,
06:58
we'll
06:58
really
06:58
,
06:58  Speaker 3
That's
06:58
what
06:58
they
06:59
said
06:59
about
06:59
it.
06:59
I
06:59
mean,
06:59
that's
07:00
why
07:00
they
07:00
named
07:00
it.
07:00
What
07:01
they
07:01
named
07:02
it.
07:02  Speaker 1
Did
07:02
they
07:02
really,
07:03
I
07:03
didn't
07:03
know
07:03
that
07:03
.
07:03
I
07:03
thought
07:03
they
07:03
were
07:03
just
07:04
trying
07:04
to,
07:04
like,
07:04
they
07:05
had
07:05
a
07:05
love
07:05
of
07:05
world
07:06
war
07:06
one
07:06
or
07:06
something.
07:07
I
07:07
didn't
07:07
realize
07:07
it
07:07
was
07:07
the
07:07
power,
07:08
the
07:08
drink.
07:09
There's
07:09
a
07:09
lot
07:09
of
07:10
booze
07:10
.
07:10  Speaker 3
I
07:10
read.
07:11
That's
07:11
what
07:11
it
07:11
said.
07:12
Whether
07:12
or
07:12
not
07:13
that's
07:13
true.
07:13
I'm
07:14
not
07:14
sure,
07:14
but
07:15
it'll
07:15
get
07:15
you
07:15
there.
07:16
Yeah.
07:16  Speaker 1
Well
07:16
good.
07:17
I
07:17
,
07:17
I
07:17
don't
07:18
want
07:18
my
07:18
second
07:19
actually,
07:19
my
07:19
husband
07:19
is
07:19
so
07:19
sweet.
07:20
We
07:20
have
07:21
these
07:21
French
07:21
doors
07:22
and
07:22
they
07:22
were
07:22
closed
07:23
and
07:23
I
07:23
held
07:23
up
07:23
my
07:23
glass
07:24
and
07:25
he
07:26
came
07:26
in
07:26
and
07:26
got
07:27
it
07:27
and
07:27
filled
07:27
it
07:27
up.
07:27
It's
07:28
like
07:28
,
07:28
I
07:28
wish
07:28
I
07:28
had
07:28
that
07:29
kind
07:29
of
07:29
marriage.
07:31
I
07:31
didn't
07:31
have
07:31
to
07:31
sneak
07:32
my
07:32
booze
07:32
in
07:32
from
07:32
my
07:32
car.
07:35
It's
07:35
a
07:35
strong
07:36
one.
07:36
I'm
07:36
pretty
07:36
,
07:37
pretty
07:37
lucky.
07:39
He's
07:39
like
07:39
a
07:39
God,
07:39
there's
07:40
my
07:40
drunk
07:40
wife
07:40
on
07:40
her
07:41
podcast
07:41
.
07:41
Again,
07:41
let
07:41
me
07:42
fill
07:42
up
07:42
her
07:42
glass
07:43
so
07:43
well
07:44
with
07:44
that
07:44
being
07:44
said
07:45
,
07:45
um,
07:45
we
07:46
are
07:46
going
07:46
to
07:46
jump
07:46
into
07:47
the
07:47
story
07:47
of
07:47
the
07:47
flatwoods
07:48
monster.
07:49
And
07:49
I
07:49
think
07:49
I've
07:49
mentioned
07:50
before
07:50
in
07:50
this
07:50
podcast
07:51
that
07:51
I
07:51
grew
07:51
up
07:51
in
07:51
West
07:52
Virginia.
07:52
I
07:52
went
07:52
to
07:53
college
07:53
there
07:53
too
07:54
up
07:54
in
07:54
Bethany
07:54
college,
07:55
way
07:55
up
07:56
in
07:56
the
07:56
mountains.
07:56
Yeah.
07:57
So
07:57
anytime
07:58
I
07:58
come
07:58
across
07:59
a
07:59
story
07:59
from
07:59
West
07:59
Virginia,
07:59
it's
08:00
kind
08:00
of
08:00
near
08:00
and
08:00
dear
08:00
to
08:00
me.
08:01
I
08:01
think
08:02
if
08:02
you
08:02
think
08:02
about
08:03
like
08:03
the
08:03
big
08:04
cryptid
08:04
stories
08:04
in
08:04
West
08:05
Virginia,
08:05
most
08:05
people
08:05
think
08:05
about
08:05
moth
08:06
man.
08:07
And
08:07
that's
08:07
a
08:07
really
08:07
cool
08:07
story.
08:08
So
08:08
we'll
08:08
talk
08:09
about
08:09
that.
08:10
I
08:10
imagine
08:10
in
08:10
a
08:10
later
08:11
episode,
08:12
but
08:12
I
08:12
came
08:12
across
08:13
this
08:13
other
08:13
one,
08:13
which
08:13
I
08:13
think
08:14
I'd
08:14
heard
08:14
of
08:14
it's
08:15
the
08:15
flatwoods
08:15
monster,
08:16
but
08:16
I
08:16
didn't
08:17
really
08:17
know
08:17
anything
08:18
about
08:18
it.
08:18
So
08:18
I
08:18
thought,
08:18
let
08:19
me
08:19
just
08:19
do
08:19
this
08:19
and
08:19
find
08:20
out
08:20
some,
08:20
some
08:21
more
08:21
about
08:21
it.
08:22  Speaker 3
I've
08:22
heard
08:22
about
08:22
it
08:23
too.
08:23
I've
08:23
heard
08:23
of
08:24
it,
08:24
but
08:24
I've
08:24
never
08:25
read
08:25
anything
08:25
about
08:26
it.
08:26
So
08:26
I'm
08:26
excited
08:27
for
08:27
you
08:27
to
08:28
talk
08:28
about
08:29
what
08:29
it
08:29
is
08:29
that
08:29
you've
08:29
learned.
08:30  Speaker 1
So
08:31
I'll
08:31
just
08:31
get
08:31
started.
08:32
So
08:32
it's
08:33
also
08:33
known
08:33
the
08:34
flatwoods
08:34
monster
08:34
is
08:34
also
08:35
known
08:35
as
08:35
the
08:35
Braxton
08:35
County
08:36
monster
08:37
in
08:37
the
08:37
Phantom
08:37
of
08:37
flatwoods.
08:38
And
08:39
it's
08:39
kind
08:39
of
08:39
cool
08:39
because
08:39
one
08:40
of
08:40
my
08:40
mom's
08:40
best
08:40
friends
08:41
actually
08:42
is
08:42
from
08:42
Braxton
08:42
County.
08:43
So
08:43
I
08:43
asked
08:44
my
08:44
mom
08:44
to
08:44
ask
08:45
her
08:45
if
08:45
she
08:45
heard
08:46
about
08:46
this.
08:46
And
08:46
she
08:46
did
08:46
say
08:47
that
08:47
growing
08:47
up,
08:48
you
08:48
know
08:48
,
08:48
she
08:48
heard
08:48
stories
08:49
like
08:49
she
08:49
didn't
08:49
know
08:49
any
08:50
of
08:50
the
08:50
people
08:50
involved,
08:50
but
08:51
she'd
08:51
heard
08:51
about
08:51
it.
08:52
So
08:52
anyway,
08:52
flatwoods
08:53
is
08:53
this
08:53
little
08:54
teeny
08:54
town
08:55
in
08:55
Braxton
08:55
County,
08:56
which
08:56
was
08:56
in
08:56
central
08:57
West
08:57
Virginia.
08:58
And
08:58
if
08:58
you
08:58
can
08:58
kind
08:59
of
08:59
go
08:59
back
08:59
in
08:59
time,
09:00
this
09:00
is
09:00
going
09:00
to
09:00
unfold
09:01
in
09:01
the
09:01
1950s.
09:02
So
09:03
we're
09:03
going
09:03
to
09:03
go
09:03
to
09:03
the
09:04
evening
09:04
of
09:04
September
09:07
12th,
09:07
1952,
09:07
it's
09:07
around
09:08
seven
09:08
o'clock
09:08
in
09:08
the
09:08
evening.
09:09
So
09:09
it's
09:09
getting
09:09
dusky,
09:10
but
09:10
it's
09:10
not
09:10
dark
09:11
yet.
09:11
And
09:12
you
09:12
know,
09:12
it's
09:12
the,
09:13
the
09:13
weather
09:13
is
09:13
still
09:13
really
09:14
mild.
09:14
It's
09:14
the
09:15
first
09:15
frost
09:15
hasn't
09:16
hit
09:16
yet.
09:17
So
09:17
the
09:17
kids
09:17
are
09:17
out
09:17
playing
09:18
and
09:19
they're
09:19
these
09:19
two
09:19
brothers
09:19
and
09:20
their
09:20
,
09:20
their
09:20
buddy
09:21
who
09:21
are
09:21
out
09:21
playing
09:21
football
09:22
and
09:22
their
09:22
names
09:23
are
09:23
Edward
09:24
and
09:24
Fred
09:25
may
09:25
.
09:25
I
09:25
think
09:25
he
09:25
went
09:25
by
09:25
Eddie.
09:26
So
09:26
Eddie
09:26
and
09:26
Fred
09:27
may
09:27
and
09:27
then
09:27
their
09:27
friend
09:28
whose
09:28
name
09:28
is
09:28
Tommy.
09:29
So
09:29
they're
09:29
out
09:30
playing
09:30
football
09:30
and
09:31
they
09:31
see
09:31
something
09:32
bright
09:33
fly
09:34
above
09:34
them.
09:34
And
09:35
it
09:35
appears
09:35
to
09:36
fall
09:37
on
09:37
this
09:37
Hilltop
09:38
off
09:38
in
09:38
the
09:38
distance,
09:39
which
09:39
happened
09:40
to
09:40
belong.
09:40
This
09:40
Hilltop
09:41
was
09:41
part
09:41
of
09:41
this,
09:42
this
09:42
farm
09:43
they're
09:43
kind
09:43
of
09:43
freaked
09:44
out.
09:44
So
09:45
they
09:45
run
09:45
home
09:46
to
09:46
the
09:46
,
09:46
the
09:46
two
09:47
brothers
09:47
to
09:47
their
09:48
house
09:48
and
09:48
they
09:48
get
09:48
their
09:49
mom
09:49
whose
09:49
name
09:49
is
09:49
Kathleen.
09:51
And
09:51
then
09:51
of
09:52
course,
09:52
as
09:52
there
09:53
would
09:53
be
09:53
there
09:53
more
09:53
kids
09:54
around.
09:54
So
09:54
they
09:54
had
09:54
a
09:54
couple
09:55
more
09:55
kids
09:55
come
09:55
with
09:56
them.
09:57
Um,
09:57
one
09:57
of
09:57
their
09:57
names
09:57
is
09:58
Neil
09:58
Nunley
09:58
and
09:58
I
09:58
just
09:59
mentioned
09:59
his
09:59
name
09:59
because
10:00
he's
10:00
going
10:00
to
10:00
come
10:00
up
10:00
later
10:01
in
10:01
the
10:01
story.
10:02
And
10:02
then
10:03
there's
10:03
also
10:03
a
10:04
17
10:04
year
10:04
old
10:05
boy
10:05
named
10:06
Jean
10:06
lemon
10:06
.
10:07
And
10:07
the
10:07
reports
10:08
I
10:08
read
10:08
said
10:08
he
10:08
was
10:09
a
10:09
West
10:09
Virginia
10:09
national
10:10
guardsman,
10:10
which
10:10
seemed
10:11
a
10:11
little
10:11
odd
10:11
to
10:11
me.
10:12
Like,
10:12
can
10:12
you
10:12
really
10:12
be
10:13
a
10:13
guardsman
10:13
at
10:13
17?
10:14  Speaker 3
Get
10:14
married
10:15
in
10:15
West
10:16
Virginia
10:16
at
10:16
like
10:16
13
10:17
or
10:17
12?
10:18
I
10:18
mean,
10:19
yeah,
10:19
I
10:19
don't
10:19
know
10:19
what
10:19
the
10:19
law,
10:20
that's
10:21
not
10:21
a
10:21
joke.
10:22
I
10:22
mean,
10:22
years
10:22
ago
10:23
you
10:23
could
10:23
do
10:23
that
10:23
kind
10:24
of
10:24
thing.
10:25  Speaker 1
Sure.
10:25
When
10:25
I
10:25
was
10:25
growing
10:26
up
10:26
that
10:26
like
10:26
with
10:26
parental
10:27
permission,
10:27
you
10:28
could
10:28
get
10:28
married
10:28
at
10:28
14.
10:29
I
10:29
mean,
10:30
I
10:30
hadn't
10:31
even
10:31
held
10:31
anybody's
10:31
hand
10:32
at
10:32
the
10:32
age
10:32
of
10:32  Speaker 3
My
10:33
aunt
10:33
got
10:33
married
10:34
when
10:34
she
10:34
was
10:35
13.
10:36
Uh,
10:36
when
10:36
they
10:37
lived
10:37
in
10:37
West
10:38
Virginia.
10:38
That's
10:38
crazy.
10:39  Speaker 1
Now,
10:39
was
10:39
that
10:40
your
10:40
aunt
10:40
that
10:40
wasn't
10:40
your
10:41
aunt
10:41
who
10:41
later
10:42
became
10:42
a
10:42
physician?
10:42
Was
10:43
it?
10:43  Speaker 3
No,
10:43
no.
10:44
This
10:44
was
10:44
my
10:45
aunt.
10:45
That
10:45
was
10:46
not
10:46
that
10:46
my
10:46
other
10:47
aunt
10:47
was
10:47
in
10:47
a
10:47
lot
10:47
of
10:47
fun,
10:48
but
10:48
this
10:49
aunt
10:49
was
10:49
,
10:50
uh
10:50
,
10:50
it
10:50
was
10:50
crazy
10:50
kind
10:51
of
10:51
fun.
10:52
And
10:52
she,
10:52
I
10:52
think
10:53
I
10:53
know
10:53
who
10:53
you're
10:53
talking
10:53
about.
10:54
Your
10:54
dad's
10:54
dad's
10:55
sister,
10:55
my
10:55
dad's
10:55
sister
10:56
and
10:56
she
10:56
was
10:57
married.
10:58
She
10:58
was
10:58
married
10:58
at
10:58
least
10:58
three
10:59
times.
10:59
So
10:59
the
10:59
first
11:00
one
11:00
didn't
11:00
work
11:00
out.
11:01
When
11:01
you
11:01
get
11:01
married
11:02
at
11:02
13,
11:02  Speaker 1
Can
11:02
you
11:03
imagine
11:03
getting
11:03
married
11:04
that
11:04
young?
11:04
I
11:04
just
11:04
can't
11:05  Speaker 3
Even,
11:05
I
11:06
cannot
11:06
imagine
11:07
either.
11:07
I
11:07
just,
11:07
I
11:07
don't
11:08
even
11:08
know.
11:08  Speaker 1
Yeah,
11:09
but
11:09
it
11:09
did
11:09
happen.
11:10
My
11:10
aunt
11:10
Carolyn,
11:10
she
11:11
snuck
11:11
away
11:11
and
11:12
got
11:12
married
11:12
at
11:12
16
11:13
and
11:13
she
11:13
was
11:13
also
11:13
married
11:14
three
11:14
times.
11:14
So
11:15
I
11:15
guess
11:15
you
11:15
get
11:15
started
11:16
early.
11:17
You
11:17
just
11:17
worked
11:17
your
11:17
way
11:17
until
11:18
you
11:18
find
11:19
that
11:19
perfect
11:19
person.
11:20
And
11:20
I
11:20
don't
11:20
remember
11:20
maybe,
11:21
Hey,
11:21
maybe
11:21
they
11:21
knew
11:22
something
11:22
that
11:22
we
11:22
don't
11:23
learn
11:23
the
11:23
ropes
11:24
exactly.
11:24
Until
11:24
you
11:24
can
11:25
eventually
11:25
find
11:25
somebody
11:26
who
11:26
will
11:26
bring
11:26
you
11:26
another
11:27
drink.
11:27
When
11:27
you
11:27
,
11:27
when
11:28
you
11:28
wave
11:28
your
11:28
class
11:28
in
11:29
the
11:29
air,
11:29  Speaker 3