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episode 2: Mercy Brown and Black Aggie [transcript]


In tonight’s episode, we’ll be travelling back to the 19th century to explore the sometimes bizarre ways people have reacted in the face of illness, loss, and grief – reactions that remain haunting to this very day. 

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 2020-10-27  55m
 
 
00:01  Speaker 1
I'm
00:01
Jenna
00:02
Olivan
00:02
and
00:02
I'm
00:02
Jen
00:03
Lee
00:03
.
00:03
And
00:03
we'd
00:04
like
00:04
to
00:04
welcome
00:04
you
00:04
to
00:04
beneath
00:05
your
00:05
bed,
00:06
a
00:06
podcast
00:06
where
00:06
we
00:06
drag
00:07
out
00:07
all
00:07
those
00:08
fears
00:08
that
00:08
lurk
00:09
beneath
00:09
our
00:09
beds
00:10
from
00:10
the
00:10
paranormal
00:11
to
00:11
true
00:11
crime,
00:12
to
00:12
the
00:12
simply
00:13
strange
00:14
along
00:14
the
00:14
way,
00:14
we'll
00:15
be
00:15
drinking
00:15
cocktails
00:16
and
00:16
sharing
00:16
stories
00:17
from
00:17
our
00:17
Appalachian
00:18
upbringings.
00:20
In
00:20
tonight's
00:20
episode,
00:20
we'll
00:21
be
00:21
traveling
00:21
back
00:21
to
00:21
the
00:22
19th
00:22
century
00:23
to
00:23
explore
00:23
the
00:23
sometimes
00:24
bizarre
00:25
ways
00:25
people
00:26
have
00:26
reacted
00:26
in
00:26
the
00:26
face
00:27
of
00:27
illness,
00:27
loss,
00:28
and
00:28
grief
00:29
reactions
00:30
that
00:30
remain
00:30
haunting
00:31
to
00:31
this
00:31
very
00:32
day.
00:45
Hey
00:45
Jen,
00:46
it's
00:46
it's
00:46
going
00:46
all
00:46
right.
00:47
It's
00:47
all
00:47
right.
00:47
It's
00:47
been
00:47
a
00:47
long
00:48
week.
00:48
Once
00:49
again.
00:50
It's
00:50
Friday
00:51
zooming.
00:52
How
00:52
do
00:52
you
00:52
feel
00:52
about
00:52
all
00:52
the
00:52
zoom
00:53
meetings?
00:54
Oh
00:54
gosh.
00:54
Yeah,
00:55
the
00:55
zooming
00:55
is
00:55
getting
00:55
old,
00:56
you
00:56
know,
00:56
I
00:56
guess
00:56
it's
00:57
preferable
00:57
to
00:58
being
00:59
actually
00:59
in
00:59
the
00:59
office,
01:00
but
01:00
it's
01:00
getting
01:00
old
01:01
for
01:01
sure.
01:01
How's
01:01
it
01:01
going
01:02
for
01:02
you
01:03
after
01:03
having
01:03
about
01:04
four
01:04
or
01:04
five
01:05
meetings
01:05
have
01:05
had
01:06
as
01:06
many
01:06
as
01:06
six
01:06
meetings
01:07
in
01:07
a
01:07
day,
01:08
it
01:08
just
01:08
gets
01:08
exhausting.
01:09
But
01:10
I
01:10
think
01:10
that's
01:10
just
01:11
something
01:11
that
01:11
we
01:11
all
01:11
share.
01:12
It's
01:12
a
01:12
special
01:13
type
01:13
of
01:13
fatigue.
01:14
It
01:14
is
01:15
last
01:15
week.
01:16
I
01:16
don't
01:16
know
01:16
if
01:16
I
01:17
told
01:17
you,
01:17
but
01:18
I
01:18
was
01:19
in
01:19
a
01:19
meeting
01:20
and
01:20
I
01:20
was
01:20
looking,
01:21
busted
01:21
that
01:21
day
01:22
anyway.
01:24
And
01:24
instead
01:25
of
01:25
wearing
01:25
leggings,
01:26
cause
01:26
I
01:26
know
01:26
a
01:26
lot
01:26
of
01:26
people
01:26
like,
01:26
Oh,
01:27
I'm
01:27
wearing
01:27
black
01:27
leggings
01:28
and
01:29
I'll
01:29
just
01:29
put
01:29
a
01:29
nice
01:30
shirt
01:30
on.
01:31
Well,
01:31
I
01:31
had
01:31
a
01:31
particular
01:32
meeting
01:33
I
01:33
wanted
01:33
to
01:33
look
01:34
halfway
01:35
respectable
01:36
for.
01:37
So
01:37
I
01:37
went
01:37
and
01:37
I
01:37
put
01:38
on
01:38
a
01:38
nice
01:38
shirt
01:39
and
01:39
I
01:39
came
01:39
back,
01:40
started
01:41
the
01:41
meeting
01:42
and
01:42
then
01:42
towards
01:43
the
01:43
end,
01:43
probably
01:43
the
01:44
last
01:44
five
01:44
minutes,
01:44
my
01:45
phone
01:45
rings
01:46
and
01:46
I
01:46
get
01:47
up
01:47
to
01:47
answer
01:47
it,
01:48
forgetting
01:48
that
01:48
I
01:49
have
01:49
plaid
01:49
pajama
01:50
bottoms
01:50
on.
01:51
I
01:51
mean,
01:51
you
01:51
cannot
01:52
mistake
01:52
that
01:52
they
01:53
were,
01:53
did
01:53
they
01:53
have,
01:54
do
01:54
they
01:54
,
01:55
do
01:55
they
01:55
have
01:55
,
01:55
uh
01:55
,
01:56
the
01:56
frozen
01:57
characters
01:57
on
01:57
them?
01:58
No,
01:59
no
01:59
they
01:59
didn't.
01:59
I
01:59
actually,
02:00
I
02:00
would
02:00
prefer
02:01
the
02:01
frozen
02:01
characters
02:02
to
02:02
like
02:02
this
02:02
lumberjack.
02:04
Oh,
02:04
I
02:04
was
02:04
going
02:04
to
02:04
say,
02:04
what
02:05
do
02:05
these
02:05
look
02:05
like?
02:06
They
02:06
look
02:06
like
02:06
a
02:07
lumberjack
02:07
,
02:07
a
02:08
lumberjack
02:08
shirt,
02:09
but
02:09
pants.
02:11
So
02:11
I
02:11
was
02:11
hoping
02:11
that
02:12
nobody
02:12
saw
02:13
it.
02:13
So
02:13
after
02:13
we
02:13
got
02:14
off
02:14
the
02:14
zoom
02:15
meeting,
02:15
I
02:15
was
02:15
trying
02:16
to
02:16
use
02:16
the
02:16
camera
02:17
and
02:18
trying
02:18
to
02:20
see
02:20
if
02:20
I
02:20
can
02:20
replicate
02:21
what
02:21
I
02:21
did
02:22
and
02:23
thinking,
02:23
you
02:23
know
02:23
,
02:23
hopefully
02:24
nobody
02:24
saw
02:24
me
02:25
well,
02:25
you
02:26
know,
02:26
I
02:26
do
02:26
it.
02:27
I
02:27
do.
02:27
I
02:28
dislike
02:28
.
02:28
I,
02:28
I
02:29
did
02:29
in
02:29
the
02:29
meeting
02:29
and
02:30
I
02:30
could
02:30
see
02:30
myself.
02:31
So
02:31
I
02:31
was
02:31
still
02:31
thinking,
02:33
I
02:33
was
02:33
still
02:34
thinking,
02:34
okay,
02:35
maybe
02:35
,
02:35
maybe
02:35
no
02:36
one
02:36
saw
02:36
it.
02:37
So
02:37
I
02:38
,
02:39
yeah.
02:40
I
02:40
mean,
02:40
it
02:40
was
02:40
embarrassing.
02:41
So
02:42
I
02:42
call
02:43
someone
02:43
who
02:43
is
02:44
on
02:44
the
02:44
meeting
02:44
that
02:44
I'm
02:44
friends
02:44
with.
02:45
And
02:46
I
02:46
said,
02:46
did
02:46
you
02:46
happen
02:47
to
02:47
see
02:47
that
02:48
I
02:48
was
02:48
working
02:48
at
02:48
the
02:48
jump
02:50
in?
02:50
Did
02:50
you
02:50
happen
02:51
to
02:51
see
02:51
I
02:51
was
02:51
wearing
02:51
my,
02:52
my
02:52
pajama
02:53
bottoms?
02:54
And
02:54
she's
02:54
like,
02:54
yes
02:55
I
02:55
did.
02:57
And
02:57
she
02:57
was
02:57
trying
02:57
to
02:57
make
02:57
me
02:58
feel
02:58
better
02:58
saying,
02:58
well,
02:59
you
02:59
know,
02:59
I
02:59
got
02:59
mine
03:00
on.
03:00
And
03:00
again,
03:01
they
03:01
were
03:01
like,
03:02
they
03:02
were
03:02
black
03:02
leggings
03:03
or
03:03
capris.
03:04
It's
03:05
like,
03:05
no,
03:05
that's,
03:06
that's
03:06
not
03:06
the
03:06
same
03:06
thing.
03:07
So
03:08
yeah,
03:08
that's
03:08
one
03:08
of
03:08
my
03:08
stories.
03:09  Speaker 2
I
03:10
love
03:10
it.
03:10
I
03:10
just
03:10
want
03:11
to
03:11
remind
03:11
you
03:11
though
03:11
that
03:11
you
03:11
have
03:12
a
03:12
pair
03:12
of
03:12
leggings
03:12
that
03:12
I
03:12
gave
03:13
you.
03:14
And
03:14
I
03:14
believe
03:14
that
03:14
they,
03:15
they're
03:15
not
03:15
black,
03:16
they're
03:16
green
03:16
and
03:16
I
03:16
think
03:17
they
03:17
have
03:17
pink
03:17
kangaroos
03:17
on
03:18
them.
03:18
So
03:18
I,
03:18
I
03:19
think
03:19
you
03:19
should
03:19
wear
03:19
those
03:19
next
03:20
week.
03:20
It's
03:20
peacocks.
03:21
It's
03:21
not
03:22
Kingery
03:22
okay.
03:23
Why
03:23
would
03:23
I
03:23
thinking
03:24
cake
03:24
?
03:25  Speaker 1
So
03:25
what
03:25
are
03:25
you,
03:26
what
03:26
are
03:26
you
03:26
having
03:26
to
03:26
drink
03:27
tonight?
03:28
I'm
03:28
here
03:28  Speaker 2
Having
03:28
,
03:29
um
03:29
,
03:29
what's
03:29
called
03:29
a
03:29
tin
03:30
Lizzie
03:30
and
03:31
um,
03:31
but
03:31
it's,
03:32
it's
03:32
kinda
03:32
my
03:32
take
03:32
on
03:32
it
03:33
mostly
03:33
because
03:33
I
03:33
didn't
03:34
have
03:34
sham
03:34
bores
03:34
.
03:34
So
03:35
I
03:35
had
03:35
to
03:35
substitute
03:36
creme
03:36
to
03:36
Cassie's
03:36
.
03:37
Um,
03:37
so
03:37
I
03:37
threw
03:38
some
03:38
vodka
03:39
in
03:39
my
03:39
cocktail
03:39
shaker
03:40
and
03:40
I
03:40
threw
03:40
in
03:40
some
03:41
Saint
03:41
Germain,
03:42
some
03:42
creme
03:42
de
03:43
Cassius
03:43
and
03:43
some
03:43
ice
03:43
and
03:44
then
03:44
shook
03:45
it
03:45
up,
03:45
poured
03:45
it
03:45
in
03:46
my
03:46
,
03:46
my
03:46
nice
03:46
little
03:46
glass
03:47
here
03:47
and
03:47
then
03:47
topped
03:47
it
03:48
off
03:48
with
03:48
Prosecco.
03:49
It
03:49
should
03:49
have
03:49
a
03:49
,
03:50
a
03:50
lemon
03:50
garnish,
03:50
but
03:51
I
03:51
didn't
03:51
have
03:51
a
03:51
lemon
03:52
either.
03:52
So
03:52
that's
03:53
what
03:53
I'm
03:53
drinking.
03:53
Sounds
03:54
good.
03:54
It
03:55
is
03:55
good.
03:55
What
03:55
do
03:55
you
03:55
have?
03:56  Speaker 1
I'm
03:56
having
03:57
a
03:57
Berry
03:57
smash.
03:58
So
03:59
it
03:59
has
03:59
strawberries
04:00
in
04:00
it.
04:00
Blueberries
04:02
vodka.
04:02
Of
04:03
course
04:04
it
04:04
has
04:04
lime
04:04
juice
04:05
and
04:06
topped
04:07
off
04:07
with
04:08
some
04:09
ginger
04:09
beer.
04:10  Speaker 2
Oh,
04:10
that
04:10
sounds
04:10
really
04:11
good.
04:11
I
04:11
mean
04:11
,
04:13
did
04:13
you,
04:13
you
04:13
modeled
04:14
the
04:14
,
04:14  Speaker 1
You
04:14
have
04:14
to
04:14
muddle
04:15
the
04:15
fruit
04:16
sounds
04:16
so
04:17
good.
04:17
It's
04:18
really
04:18
good.
04:18  Speaker 2
You're
04:19
really
04:19
good
04:19
at
04:19
making
04:19
those
04:19
drinks
04:20
that
04:20
have
04:20
a
04:20
lot
04:20
of
04:20
ingredients.
04:22
You
04:22
like,
04:22
you're
04:22
just
04:22
good
04:22
at
04:22
putting
04:22
them
04:23
together.
04:24
No
04:24
,
04:24
it's
04:24
a
04:24
lot
04:24
of
04:24
fun
04:26  Speaker 1
And
04:26
doing
04:26
is
04:26
that
04:27
I've
04:27
been
04:27
doubling
04:28
up
04:28
on
04:28
the
04:28
alcohol
04:29
or
04:29
the
04:29
cocktail.
04:29
I
04:30
make
04:30
two
04:30
instead
04:30
of
04:30
one.
04:31
So
04:31
I
04:31
don't,
04:32
we
04:32
don't
04:32
have
04:32
to
04:32
stop
04:32
recording.
04:33
I
04:33
don't
04:33
have
04:33
to
04:33
go
04:34
downstairs.
04:34
So
04:35
last
04:35
week
04:36
I
04:36
kind
04:36
of
04:36
got
04:36
ahead
04:36
of
04:36
myself
04:37
and
04:38
before
04:38
I
04:38
knew
04:39
it,
04:39
I
04:39
was
04:39
a
04:39
little
04:39
lightheaded
04:40
and
04:42
it
04:42
made
04:42
editing
04:43
a
04:43
real
04:43
,
04:44
um,
04:44
real
04:44
disaster.
04:45
After
04:45
that,
04:46
trying
04:46
to
04:47
find
04:47
her
04:47
,
04:47  Speaker 2
I
04:47
heard
04:48
the
04:48
tape
04:48
that
04:48
you
04:48
edited
04:49
and
04:49
I
04:49
was
04:49
really
04:49
sad
04:50
to
04:50
hear
04:50
that
04:50
you
04:50
took
04:50
out
04:51
the
04:51
part
04:51
where
04:51
you
04:51
said,
04:51
Oh
04:52
my
04:52
God,
04:52
John
04:52
,
04:52
I
04:52
think
04:54
that
04:54
was
04:54
the
04:55
best
04:55
part.
04:55
You
04:55
took
04:56
it
04:56
out.
04:56
I'm
04:56
so
04:56
unhappy.
04:57  Speaker 1
I
04:57
might've
04:58
left
04:58
it
04:58
in,
04:58
but
04:58
it
04:59
was
04:59
all
04:59
the
04:59
meandering
05:00
that
05:00
followed
05:01
that
05:01
I
05:01
felt
05:01
like
05:02
I
05:02
should
05:02
remove
05:02
it.
05:04  Speaker 2
Well,
05:04
I
05:04
don't
05:05
know.
05:05
I
05:05
feel
05:05
like
05:05
that's,
05:06
you
05:06
know,
05:06
do
05:06
all
05:06
podcasters
05:07
drink.
05:07
I
05:07
feel
05:07
like
05:08
it's
05:08
part
05:08
of
05:08
what
05:08
you're
05:08
supposed
05:09
to
05:09
do.
05:09
And
05:10
you
05:10
know,
05:11
but
05:11
I'm
05:11
feeling
05:11
a
05:11
little
05:12
pressure
05:12
.
05:12
Like
05:12
every
05:12
week
05:12
I
05:12
have
05:12
to
05:13
come
05:13
up
05:13
with
05:13
a
05:13
drink
05:13
to
05:13
try
05:13
to
05:14
outdo
05:14
yours
05:14
or
05:14
at
05:15
least
05:15
live
05:15
up
05:15
to
05:15
yours.
05:16
And
05:16
the
05:16
podcasting
05:17
gig
05:17
doesn't
05:17
work
05:17
out
05:18
for
05:18
us.
05:18
At
05:19
least
05:19
we
05:19
will
05:19
we'll
05:20
know
05:20
a
05:20
lot
05:20
of
05:20
drinks.
05:20
We
05:20
can
05:20
be
05:21
bartenders
05:21
or
05:21
something.
05:22  Speaker 1
There's
05:22
something
05:23
really
05:23
fun
05:24
and
05:24
relaxing
05:25
going
05:25
through,
05:26
you
05:26
know
05:26
,
05:26
really
05:26
hard
05:26
stressful
05:27
week
05:27
and
05:27
then
05:28
mixing
05:29
a
05:29
drink,
05:29
surprise
05:29
in
05:30
each
05:30
other,
05:30
hopping
05:31
on
05:31
here.
05:32
And
05:32
you
05:32
know,
05:33
we
05:33
kind
05:33
of
05:33
do
05:33
this
05:33
for
05:33
a
05:33
hobby
05:34
anyway,
05:34
with
05:34
cocktails
05:35
and
05:35
making
05:35
our
05:35
own
05:36
simple
05:36
syrup.
05:37
And
05:37
so
05:38
we've
05:38
been
05:38
doing
05:38
this
05:38
for,
05:38
for
05:39
a
05:39
while
05:39
before.
05:39
It
05:39
was
05:39
cool,
05:40  Speaker 2
But
05:40
anyway,
05:41
I'm
05:41
so
05:41
excited.
05:42
Yeah.
05:42
I
05:42
look
05:42
forward
05:42
to
05:42
these
05:43
Friday
05:43
nights
05:43
when
05:44
we
05:44
talk
05:44
about
05:45
scary,
05:45
creepy
05:45
stuff.
05:46
Um,
05:46
we're
05:47
both
05:47
totally
05:48
into
05:48
that
05:48
and
05:48
it's
05:49
dark
05:49
right
05:49
now.
05:49
I'm
05:49
looking
05:50
out
05:50
.
05:50
I
05:50
can't
05:50
see,
05:50
there
05:51
could
05:51
be
05:51
some
05:51
point
05:52
somebody
05:52
outside
05:53
on
05:53
my
05:53
deck
05:53
looking
05:53
at
05:54
me
05:54
and
05:54
I
05:54
wouldn't
05:54
know
05:54
it.
05:55
So
05:55
hopefully
05:56
there
05:56
isn't,
05:57
there's
05:57
someone
05:57
waiting
05:58  Speaker 1
Beneath
05:58
your
05:58
bed
06:00  Speaker 2
Beneath
06:00
my
06:00
desk
06:01
right
06:01
now.
06:02
There's
06:02
probably
06:02
a
06:02
cat
06:03
beneath
06:03
my
06:03
bed.
06:04
At
06:04
least
06:04
you
06:04
have
06:04
a
06:04
husband.
06:05
That's
06:06
true,
06:06
but
06:07
he's
06:07
in
06:07
the
06:07
other
06:07
room.
06:08
I
06:08
mean,
06:08
what
06:08
could
06:08
he
06:08
do
06:09
if
06:09
somebody
06:09
broke
06:09
in
06:10
and
06:10
tried
06:10
to
06:10
ravish
06:10
me?
06:19
So
06:19
anyway,
06:20
that's
06:20
neither
06:20
here
06:20
nor
06:20
there.
06:21
This
06:21
is
06:21
not
06:21
a
06:21
story
06:21
about
06:22
deflowering
06:22
,
06:22
but
06:22
I
06:23
am
06:23
going
06:23
to
06:23
tell,
06:24
I'm
06:24
going
06:24
to
06:24
ask
06:25
you,
06:25
I'm
06:25
going
06:25
to
06:25
tell
06:25
a
06:25
story,
06:26
but
06:26
before
06:26
I
06:26
get
06:27
to
06:27
it,
06:27
I
06:28
kind
06:28
of
06:28
have
06:28
some
06:28
something
06:29
I
06:29
want
06:29
you
06:29
to,
06:30
I
06:30
want
06:30
you
06:30
to
06:30
kind
06:31
of
06:31
go
06:31
along
06:31
with
06:31
me
06:31
and
06:31
imagine
06:32
something.
06:32
So
06:32
I'm
06:33
going
06:33
to
06:33
ask
06:34
you
06:34
to
06:34
imagine
06:35
that
06:36
you
06:36
are
06:36
living
06:37
in
06:37
a
06:37
time
06:38
of
06:38
a
06:38
terrible
06:38
disease,
06:39
sweeping
06:39
the
06:39
land.
06:40
It's
06:40
a
06:40
terrible
06:41
deadly
06:41
disease,
06:42
and
06:43
it's
06:43
like
06:43
an
06:43
out
06:43
of
06:43
control
06:45
bonfire.
06:45
That's
06:45
just
06:46
catching
06:46
from
06:46
person
06:47
to
06:47
person.
06:48
Um,
06:48
you
06:48
don't
06:48
know
06:49
who's
06:49
going
06:49
to
06:49
get
06:49
sick
06:50
and
06:51
you're
06:51
really
06:52
scared.
06:52
Can,
06:52
can
06:53
you
06:53
imagine
06:53
anything
06:53
like
06:54
that?
06:55  Speaker 1
Just
06:56
like
06:56
present
06:56
day
06:57
COVID
06:57
in
06:57
the
06:57
U
06:58
S
06:59  Speaker 2
Well,
07:00
a
07:00
little
07:00
bit
07:00
more
07:00
than
07:01
that.
07:01
Imagine,
07:02
imagine
07:03
that
07:03
this
07:03
disease
07:05
with
07:05
COVID,
07:05
at
07:05
least
07:06
you
07:06
might
07:06
get
07:07
it
07:07
and
07:07
do
07:07
really
07:07
poorly
07:08
and
07:08
maybe
07:08
die,
07:10
or
07:10
you
07:10
might
07:10
be
07:10
okay
07:11
with
07:11
this
07:11
disease
07:12
that
07:12
I'm
07:12
talking
07:12
about
07:13
getting
07:14
it
07:14
is
07:14
a
07:14
virtual
07:15
death
07:15
sentence.
07:15
So
07:16
you're
07:16
probably
07:16
going
07:17
to
07:17
die
07:17
if
07:17
you
07:17
get
07:17
it.
07:18
And
07:19
there
07:19
is
07:19
no
07:19
doctor
07:20
file
07:20
tree
07:20
to
07:20
tell
07:21
you
07:21
what
07:21
you
07:21
can
07:22
expect
07:22
or
07:22
what
07:22
you
07:22
should
07:23
do,
07:23
that
07:23
you
07:23
should
07:23
mask
07:24
up
07:24
and
07:24
social
07:24
distance
07:25
and
07:26
all
07:26
of
07:26
that
07:26
good
07:26
stuff.
07:27
There's
07:27
no
07:27
CDC
07:28
to
07:28
make
07:28
recommendations.
07:30
Um,
07:30
you're
07:30
pretty
07:30
much
07:30
on
07:30
your
07:30
own
07:31
and
07:32
against
07:32
this
07:33
invisible
07:35
fo
07:35
that,
07:35
that
07:36
you
07:36
don't
07:36
know
07:36
what
07:36
to
07:36
do
07:37
with.
07:37
So
07:38
can
07:38
you
07:38
imagine
07:39
that,
07:39
like
07:39
what
07:39
would
07:40
you
07:40
do?
07:41
What
07:41
do
07:41
you
07:41
think
07:41
you'd
07:41
do?
07:41
How
07:41
would
07:42
you
07:42
react?
07:42  Speaker 1
You
07:42
think
07:43
I
07:43
would
07:43
react,
07:44
trying
07:44
to
07:44
do
07:44
what
07:44
I'm
07:45
doing
07:45
now
07:45
is
07:45
just
07:45
staying
07:46
holed
07:46
up
07:46
in
07:47
the
07:47
house
07:47
as
07:47
much
07:47
as
07:48
I,
07:48
you
07:48
know,
07:48
as
07:48
much
07:49
as
07:49
I
07:49
can,
07:49
but
07:50  Speaker 2
Even
07:51
in
07:51
modern
07:52
day,
07:52
it's
07:52
difficult
07:53  Speaker 1
To
07:53
do
07:53
that.
07:54
So
07:54
I
07:54
can
07:54
only
07:54
imagine
07:55
years
07:55
ago
07:56
what
07:57
it
07:57
was
07:57
like
07:57
trying
07:57
to
07:58
avoid
07:59
getting
07:59
sick,
08:00
maybe
08:00
in
08:00
a
08:00
more
08:00
rural
08:01
area.
08:01
Maybe
08:01
it
08:01
was
08:02
possible
08:02
if
08:02
you
08:02
didn't,
08:03
if
08:03
you
08:04
weren't
08:04
around
08:04
that
08:04
many
08:04
people,
08:05
but
08:05
otherwise,
08:06
you
08:06
know,
08:06
you
08:06
had
08:06
to
08:07
go
08:07
somewhere,
08:07
you
08:07
had
08:07
to
08:07
physically
08:08
be
08:08
somewhere
08:09
to
08:09
work
08:09
you
08:09
had
08:10
to.
08:10  Speaker 2
Right.
08:11
Yeah.
08:12
And
08:12
I
08:12
really
08:12
can't
08:12
imagine.
08:13
I
08:13
think
08:14
I
08:14
would
08:14
just
08:14
be
08:14
so
08:14
frightened.
08:15
You
08:15
know
08:15
what
08:15
I
08:15
mean?
08:15
It's
08:16
scary
08:16
enough
08:16
right
08:16
now
08:17
in
08:17
the
08:17
wake
08:17
of
08:17
COVID,
08:18
but
08:18
at
08:19
least
08:19
we
08:19
have
08:20
some
08:20
modern
08:21
medicine,
08:21
some
08:22
modern
08:22
knowledge
08:22
of
08:23
germs
08:23
and
08:23
how
08:23
they
08:24
work
08:24
and
08:24
all
08:24
of
08:24
that.
08:25
Well,
08:25
the
08:25
disease
08:26
I'm
08:26
talking
08:26
about
08:27
people,
08:27
you
08:27
know,
08:27
you
08:28
may
08:28
have
08:28
guessed
08:29
already
08:30
the
08:30
disease
08:30
I'm
08:30
talking
08:31
to
08:31
any
08:31
guesses
08:31
by
08:31
the
08:31
way,
08:32
tuberculosis.
08:34
Yes.
08:34
Why
08:34
did
08:35
you
08:35
guys
08:35
tuberculosis
08:36  Speaker 1
Either
08:37
that,
08:37
or
08:37
it
08:37
was
08:38
the,
08:39
it
08:39
was
08:39
the
08:39
flu
08:40
of
08:40
1918.
08:41
And
08:41
I
08:41
thought
08:41
maybe
08:41
in
08:41
1918
08:43
it
08:43
would
08:43
be
08:43
too
08:43
obvious.
08:43
So
08:44  Speaker 2
Yeah,
08:45
that
08:45
was
08:45
a
08:45
good
08:45
guess.
08:46
Yeah.
08:46
Tuberculosis
08:47
or
08:47
the
08:47
other
08:47
name
08:47
of
08:48
it.
08:48
You
08:48
may
08:48
have
08:48
heard
08:49
his
08:49
consumption.
08:49
So
08:50
especially
08:50
in
08:50
the
08:50
19th
08:51
century
08:51
and
08:51
earlier
08:52
people
08:52
people
08:53
talked
08:53
about
08:53
it
08:53
as
08:53
consumption
08:54
,
08:54
um,
08:55
because
08:55
it
08:55
was,
08:55
it
08:55
was
08:56
a
08:56
disease
08:56
that
08:56
literally
08:56
seemed
08:57
to
08:57
consume
08:57
you,
08:58
you
08:58
know,
08:58
you'd
08:58
be
08:58
really
08:58
pale
08:59
and
09:00
fatigued
09:01
and
09:01
,
09:01
um,
09:01
it
09:01
was
09:02
just,
09:02
I'll
09:02
talk,
09:02
I'll
09:02
talk
09:03
more
09:03
about
09:03
it
09:03
later,
09:03
but
09:03
it
09:03
was
09:04
just
09:04
a
09:04
really
09:04
awful,
09:05
awful
09:05
thing
09:05
to
09:05
have.
09:06  Speaker 1
I
09:06
had
09:06
never
09:06
heard
09:07
that
09:07
term
09:07
used
09:07
before.
09:08  Speaker 2
Really.
09:09
It
09:09
used
09:10
to
09:10
be
09:10
considered
09:10
like
09:11
a
09:11
very
09:11
romantic
09:12
illness
09:13
to
09:13
like
09:13
all
09:13
the
09:13
poets
09:14
were
09:14
dying
09:14
of
09:14
consumption.
09:15
Um
09:15
,
09:16
you
09:16
know,
09:16
in
09:16
Puccini's
09:17
opera
09:17
Labo
09:17
,
09:18
I'm
09:18
like
09:18
the
09:18
heroin
09:19
Mimi
09:19
is
09:19
dying
09:19
of
09:20
consumption
09:20
and
09:20
it's
09:20
just
09:21
so
09:22
poetic
09:22
and
09:22
romantic
09:23
because
09:23
of
09:23
course
09:23
like
09:24
the
09:24
death
09:24
of
09:24
a
09:24
beautiful
09:25
woman
09:25
is
09:25
the
09:25
most
09:26
posed
09:26
it
09:26
as
09:26
the
09:26
most
09:26
romantic
09:27
thing
09:27
there
09:27
is.
09:28
But
09:28
I
09:28
,
09:28
from
09:29
all
09:29
accounts,
09:29
it
09:29
was
09:30
not
09:30
a
09:30
beautiful
09:31
way
09:31
to
09:31
go.
09:32
So
09:33
we're
09:33
going
09:33
to
09:33
talk
09:33
,
09:33
we'll
09:33
be
09:33
talking
09:33
about
09:34
tuberculosis
09:34
tonight,
09:35
but
09:35
we're
09:35
also
09:36
going
09:36
to
09:36
be
09:36
talking
09:36
about
09:36
vampires,
09:37
which
09:38
are
09:38
like
09:38
one
09:38
of
09:38
my
09:39
faves
09:39
.
09:39
I
09:39
really
09:39
like
09:40
vampire
09:40
.
09:40  Speaker 1
I
09:40
used
09:41
to
09:41
be
09:41
terrified
09:41
of
09:41
them
09:42
when
09:42
I
09:42
was
09:42
child.
09:43
Where
09:43
are
09:43
you?
09:44  Speaker 2
Like
09:44
,
09:44
where
09:44
did
09:44
you,
09:44
did
09:44
you
09:45
see
09:45
movies
09:45
on
09:45
TV
09:46
or,
09:47  Speaker 1
Yeah,
09:47
I
09:47
think
09:47
I
09:47
saw
09:48
I'm
09:48
sure
09:48
I
09:48
saw
09:49
a
09:49
movie.
09:49
I
09:49
didn't
09:49
read
09:49
about
09:50
it.
09:50
I
09:50
saw
09:50
a
09:50
movie
09:51
and
09:51
also
09:52
this
09:53
is
09:53
ridiculous,
09:53
but
09:54
which
09:54
is,
09:55
which
09:55
is
09:55
okay
09:56
from
09:56
the
09:56
wizard
09:57
of
09:57
Oz.
09:58
Oh,
09:58
I
09:58
was
09:58
afraid
09:59
of
09:59
the
09:59
flying
09:59
monkeys.
10:00
They
10:00
were
10:00
terrifying
10:01
to
10:01
me.
10:01
Pretty
10:02
scary
10:02
too,
10:02
but
10:03
the,
10:03
which
10:03
is
10:03
what
10:03
got
10:03
me.
10:04  Speaker 2
Yeah
10:04
,
10:04
she
10:04
was
10:05
pretty
10:05
creepy,
10:05
but
10:06
Glenda
10:06
was
10:06  Speaker 1
Good.
10:06
Glenda
10:07
was
10:07
hot
10:08
back
10:08
in
10:08
the
10:08
day.
10:09  Speaker 2
Just
10:10
thinking
10:10
that
10:11
in
10:11
her
10:11
voice
10:11
was
10:11
like
10:12
so,
10:12
so
10:12
high
10:13
and
10:13
in
10:13
her
10:13
beautiful
10:14
pink
10:14
dress.
10:15
Well,
10:15
that's
10:16
that's
10:16
yet
10:16
again,
10:16
another
10:17
podcast
10:17
about
10:18
how
10:18
hot
10:18
Glenda
10:18
was.
10:19
So
10:19
we'll
10:19
move
10:20
on.
10:21
I
10:21
can't
10:21
think
10:21
of
10:21
any
10:21
other
10:22
transition
10:22
for
10:22
that.
10:25
So
10:25
we're
10:25
gonna
10:25
be
10:25
talking
10:26
about
10:26
vampires,
10:26
but
10:27
very
10:28
curious
10:28
for
10:28
my
10:28
vampirism.
10:29
Um,
10:29
and
10:30
I'm
10:30
going
10:30
to
10:30
tell
10:30
you
10:30
the
10:31
story
10:31
tonight
10:31
of
10:32
mercy
10:32
Brown.
10:33
So
10:33
I'm
10:33
going
10:33
to
10:33
start
10:34
just
10:34
with
10:34
a
10:34
really
10:34
bare
10:35
bones
10:35
version
10:35
of
10:36
the
10:36
story
10:37
taken
10:37
from
10:37
Wikipedia.
10:38
But
10:38
I
10:38
first
10:38
heard
10:39
about
10:39
this
10:39
story,
10:40
Oh
10:40
God,
10:40
I
10:40
don't
10:40
know.
10:40
20,
10:41
20
10:41
years
10:42
ago
10:42
I
10:42
was
10:42
working
10:42
for
10:42
a
10:42
little
10:43
new
10:43
England
10:44
travel
10:44
magazine
10:45
and
10:45
my
10:45
state
10:45
happened
10:45
to
10:46
be
10:46
Rhode
10:46
Island
10:46
that
10:47
I
10:47
was
10:47
covering.
10:48
So
10:48
I
10:48
did
10:48
a
10:49
press
10:49
trip
10:49
and
10:49
stuff
10:50
up
10:50
there.
10:50
And
10:50
I
10:50
got
10:50
this
10:51
little
10:51
book
10:51
of
10:51
ghost
10:51
stories
10:52
of
10:52
like
10:52
Rhode
10:53
Island,
10:53
new
10:53
England
10:53
ghost
10:53
stories.
10:54
And
10:54
there
10:54
was
10:54
this
10:55
tale
10:55
in
10:55
there
10:55
about
10:55
mercy
10:56
Brown.
10:56
And,
10:57
but
10:57
there's
10:57
a
10:57
story.
10:58
I
10:58
was
10:58
just
10:58
thinking
10:59
about
10:59
it
10:59
recently.
11:00
Um,
11:00
and
11:00
I
11:01
remember
11:01
like
11:01
vampire
11:01
mercy,
11:02
Brown,
11:02
like
11:03
gravestone.
11:04
And
11:04
so
11:04
I
11:04
thought
11:04
I
11:04
have
11:05
to
11:05
look
11:05
this
11:05
up.
11:05
So
11:05
I
11:05
look
11:06
the
11:06
story
11:06
up
11:06
on
11:07
Wikipedia.
11:08
So
11:08
I'm
11:08
just
11:08
going
11:09
to
11:09
start
11:09
with
11:09
that
11:09
version.
11:10
So
11:11
in
11:11
the
11:11
1880s,
11:12
there
11:12
was
11:13
a
11:13
family
11:13
living
11:13
in
11:14
a
11:14
little
11:14
tiny
11:14
town
11:15
in
11:15
Southeast
11:16
Rhode
11:16
Island
11:16
called
11:16
Exiter
11:18
and
11:18
there
11:18
was
11:18
the
11:19
mom
11:19
and
11:20
some
11:20
children.
11:21
And
11:21
then
11:21
the
11:21
father,
11:22
well,
11:22
mercy
11:23
Brown,
11:23
who
11:23
we're
11:24
going
11:24
to
11:24
be
11:24
talking
11:24
about.
11:25
I
11:25
believe
11:25
she
11:25
was
11:25
the
11:25
youngest,
11:26
the
11:26
youngest
11:27
of
11:27
the
11:27
family,
11:28
but
11:28
her
11:28
mother,
11:29
whose
11:29
name
11:29
was
11:30
Mary
11:30
Eliza.
11:31
They
11:31
have
11:31
these
11:31
great
11:32
19th
11:33
century
11:33
new
11:33
England
11:33
names.
11:34
So
11:34
she
11:34
dies
11:35
in
11:35
1884
11:36
of
11:36
tuberculosis.
11:38
And
11:38
just
11:38
two
11:38
years
11:39
later,
11:40
Mercy's
11:40
older
11:41
sister,
11:41
whose
11:41
name
11:42
was
11:42
Mary
11:42
olive.
11:43
She
11:43
dies
11:43
also
11:44
of
11:44
tuberculosis.
11:46
So
11:46
by
11:46
1891,
11:47
just
11:47
five
11:47
years
11:48
later,
11:48
poor
11:48
mercy,
11:49
both
11:49
her
11:49
and
11:50
her
11:50
brother
11:50
Edwin
11:51
are
11:51
really
11:51
sick
11:52
with
11:52
this
11:52
disease.
11:54
Um,
11:54
her
11:54
brother
11:55
ed
11:55
,
11:55
when
11:55
he's
11:55
24,
11:56
I
11:56
think
11:56
around
11:57
this
11:57
time,
11:57
Mercy's
11:58
19.
11:58
So
11:59
he
11:59
he's
11:59
about
11:59
five
11:59
years
12:00
older
12:00
than
12:00
her.
12:00
He
12:01
and
12:01
his
12:01
wife.
12:01
They
12:02
decided
12:02
to
12:02
go
12:02
out
12:02
to
12:02
Colorado
12:03
and
12:03
he's
12:04
going
12:04
to
12:04
take
12:04
the
12:04
rescuer.
12:05
This
12:05
is
12:05
one
12:05
of
12:06
the
12:06
things
12:06
that
12:06
people
12:06
believe
12:07
would
12:07
actually
12:08
sometimes
12:08
cure
12:09
TB,
12:10
you
12:10
know,
12:10
getting
12:11
fresh
12:11
mountain
12:11
air
12:12
and
12:12
just
12:13
living
12:13
in
12:13
a
12:13
healthy
12:13
environment.
12:14
It
12:14
was
12:14
thought
12:14
to
12:14
be
12:15
very
12:15
bracing
12:15
and
12:16
that
12:16
you
12:16
could
12:16
overcome
12:17
it.
12:17
So
12:17
they
12:17
went
12:17
out
12:17
there
12:18
with
12:18
high
12:18
hopes
12:18
that,
12:19
that
12:19
he
12:19
would
12:19
get
12:20
better.
12:20
He
12:21
didn't,
12:21
and
12:22
I
12:22
believe
12:22
while
12:22
he
12:22
was
12:23
out
12:23
there,
12:23
mercy
12:24
died.
12:24
So
12:24
she
12:25
sadly
12:25
died
12:26
in
12:26
,
12:26
um,
12:27
in
12:27
1892.
12:28
So
12:29
Edwin
12:29
and
12:29
his
12:29
wife,
12:30
they
12:30
come
12:30
back,
12:30
they
12:30
take
12:31
the
12:31
train
12:32
cross
12:32
country
12:33
in
12:33
,
12:33
come
12:33
back
12:33
to
12:33
their
12:33
little
12:34
village
12:34
of
12:35
Exeter
12:35
.
12:35
And
12:36
their
12:36
father
12:36
is
12:37
really
12:37
the
12:37
only
12:37
person
12:37
left
12:38
at
12:38
home.
12:38
And
12:38
he's
12:39
just
12:39
feeling
12:40
absolutely
12:41
at
12:42
his
12:42
wit's
12:42