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episode 4: The True Story of the Exorcist [transcript]


Some moviegoers were so overcome by fear when they watched 1973's "The Exorcist" that they passed out. Sometimes, however, the true story is far more terrifying than anything that can be conjured up by Hollywood. Tonight, we'll talk about the chilling real events on which the movie was based.



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 2020-11-04  1h8m
 
 
00:00  Speaker 1
I'm
00:00
Jen
00:01
Lee
00:01
and
00:01
I'm
00:01
Jenna
00:01
Sullivan.
00:02
And
00:02
we'd
00:02
like
00:03
to
00:03
welcome
00:03
you
00:03
to
00:03
beneath
00:04
your
00:04
bed
00:05
a
00:05
podcast
00:05
where
00:05
we
00:05
drag
00:06
out
00:06
all
00:06
those
00:06
fears
00:07
at
00:07
work,
00:07
beneath
00:07
our
00:07
beds
00:08
from
00:08
the
00:08
paranormal
00:09
to
00:09
true
00:10
crime,
00:10
to
00:10
the
00:10
simply
00:11
strange
00:12
along
00:12
the
00:12
way,
00:12
we'll
00:12
be
00:12
drinking
00:13
cocktails
00:13
and
00:13
sharing
00:14
stories
00:14
from
00:14
our
00:14
Appalachian
00:15
upbringings.
00:16
Some
00:17
movie
00:17
goers
00:17
were
00:17
so
00:17
overcome
00:18
by
00:18
fear
00:18
when
00:18
they
00:19
watched
00:20
1973
00:20
is
00:20
the
00:20
Exorcist
00:21
that
00:21
they
00:21
passed
00:22
out.
00:22
Sometimes.
00:23
However,
00:23
the
00:23
true
00:23
story
00:24
is
00:24
far
00:24
more
00:24
terrifying
00:25
than
00:25
anything
00:25
that
00:26
can
00:26
be
00:26
conjured
00:26
up
00:26
by
00:27
Hollywood
00:27
tonight.
00:28
We'll
00:28
talk
00:28
about
00:28
the
00:29
chilling
00:30
relevance
00:30
on
00:30
which
00:30
the
00:30
movie
00:30
is
00:30
based.
00:46  Speaker 2
TJ
00:46
,
00:47  Speaker 1
Hey
00:47
Jen,
00:48
how
00:48
are
00:48
you
00:48
?
00:49
I'm
00:49
doing
00:49
okay.
00:50
How
00:50
are
00:50
you
00:50
doing?
00:51
I'm
00:51
doing
00:51
well.
00:52
So
00:52
do
00:52
you
00:52
have
00:52
any
00:53
plans
00:53
this
00:53
weekend?
00:54
Actually,
00:54
I,
00:55
I
00:55
did
00:55
a
00:55
lot
00:55
of
00:55
online
00:56
shopping
00:57
that
00:57
was
00:57
impulse
00:57
buying
00:58
today.
00:59
Do
00:59
you
00:59
want
00:59
to
00:59
know
00:59
what
00:59
I
00:59
bought?
01:00
Yeah.
01:00
What
01:00
did
01:01
you
01:01
buy?
01:01
So
01:01
I
01:02
bought
01:02
like
01:02
10
01:03
cat
01:03
pens
01:06
from
01:06
some
01:06
shop
01:06
in
01:06
Japan,
01:08
and
01:08
then
01:08
I
01:09
need
01:09
that
01:09
and
01:10
I
01:10
bought
01:10
these
01:11
a
01:11
set
01:11
of
01:13
wineglasses
01:13
,
01:13
which
01:13
you
01:14
know,
01:14
that
01:14
I
01:14
need
01:14
like
01:15
a
01:15
hole
01:15
in
01:15
the
01:15
head.
01:15
Cause
01:15
I
01:16
have
01:16
so
01:16
many
01:17
wine
01:17
glasses
01:17
already.
01:18
And
01:18
then
01:19
I
01:19
bought
01:19
a
01:19
pair
01:19
of
01:19
shoes
01:20
that
01:20
have
01:20
daisies
01:23
like
01:23
really
01:23
random
01:24
.
01:25
Where
01:26
are
01:26
you
01:26
going
01:26
to
01:26
wear
01:26
those
01:26
at?
01:27
I
01:27
have
01:27
no
01:27
idea,
01:28
but
01:28
a
01:28
couple
01:28
of
01:28
weeks
01:29
ago
01:29
I
01:29
bought
01:29
shoes
01:30
that
01:30
had
01:30
citrus
01:30
on
01:31
them.
01:31
I
01:31
don't
01:31
know
01:31
where
01:31
I'm
01:31
going
01:32
to
01:32
wear
01:32
those
01:32
.
01:34
I
01:34
think
01:34
of
01:34
like
01:34
grapefruits
01:35
and
01:35
oranges.
01:36
I'm
01:36
really
01:37
not
01:37
sure
01:37
what
01:37
I
01:37
was
01:38
thinking.
01:38
Jen
01:39
kind
01:39
of
01:39
like
01:39
when
01:39
you
01:40
went
01:40
through
01:40
that,
01:40
is
01:40
it
01:41
Lou
01:41
LiRo
01:43
please?
01:43
I
01:43
don't
01:43
want
01:43
people
01:44
to
01:44
know
01:44
about
01:44
that.
01:45
It's
01:45
so
01:46
bad
01:46
.
01:47
Yeah
01:47
.
01:47
I
01:48
blame
01:48
it
01:48
on
01:48
the
01:48
pandemic.
01:49
Can
01:50
we
01:50
just
01:50
give
01:50
the
01:50
number
01:50
though?
01:51
The
01:51
number
01:51
of
01:51
leggings
01:52
I
01:52
own,
01:53
I
01:53
own
01:53
55
01:54
pairs
01:54
of
01:54
leggings
01:55
that
01:55
I've
01:55
never
01:55
worn.
01:56
So
01:56
I
01:56
may
01:56
have
01:57
a
01:57
problem
01:57
.
01:59
I
02:00
just
02:00
thought
02:00
it
02:00
was
02:00
37.
02:01
I
02:01
thought
02:01
that
02:02
no
02:02
,
02:02
no.
02:03
It's
02:03
55.
02:04
I
02:04
counted
02:04
them
02:07
and
02:07
you've
02:07
worn.
02:07
I
02:07
think
02:08
you've
02:08
worn
02:08
at
02:08
least
02:08
one
02:08
pair.
02:09
Y
02:09
eah.
02:09
I've
02:09
worn
02:10
like
02:10
a
02:10
couple,
02:11
but
02:11
most
02:11
of
02:11
them
02:11
h
02:11
ave
02:11
never
02:12
been
02:12
worn
02:12
and
02:12
they
02:12
were
02:12
in
02:12
a
02:12
box
02:13
in
02:13
my
02:13
closet.
02:14
So
02:14
I'm
02:14
thinking
02:15
like
02:15
maybe
02:15
I
02:15
can
02:15
make
02:15
a
02:15
quilt
02:16
out
02:16
of
02:16
them.
02:17
S
02:17
ome
02:17
might
02:17
be
02:17
cool,
02:18
but
02:18
I
02:18
don't
02:18
know
02:18
how
02:18
to
02:18
quilt.
02:21
I
02:21
w
02:21
ore
02:21
the
02:21
peacock
02:22
ones
02:22
that
02:22
you
02:22
gave
02:22
me
02:23
when
02:23
we
02:23
went
02:24
t
02:24
ubing.
02:24
That's
02:25
right.
02:25
Have
02:25
you
02:25
worn
02:25
them
02:25
since
02:26
I
02:26
'll
02:26
think
02:26
of
02:27
one,
02:27
th
02:27
e
02:27
l
02:27
ike
02:27
one
02:28
other
02:28
time,
02:28
two
02:29
oth
02:29
er
02:29
times,
02:29
I
02:29
can't
02:29
remember
02:30
on,
02:30
on
02:30
a
02:30
date
02:31
with
02:31
your
02:31
wife.
02:31
Prob
02:32
ably.
02:34
Th
02:34
ey
02:34
don'
02:34
t
02:34
loo
02:34
k
02:34
so
02:34
good
02:35
on
02:35
me.
02:35
They
02:35
don't
02:36
look
02:36
good
02:36
on
02:36
it's
02:36
eit
02:36
her.
02:36
That's
02:37
why
02:37
they're
02:37
in
02:37
my
02:37
closet.
02:38
But
02:38
I
02:39
tell
02:39
myself
02:40
at,
02:41
ye
02:41
ah
02:41
,
02:41
it
02:41
is.
02:41
It's
02:41
definitely
02:42
not
02:42
you.
02:42
It's
02:42
the
02:43
print.
02:43
It's
02:43
the
02:43
peacocks.
02:44
It's
02:45
a
02:45
very
02:45
soft
02:45
fabric.
02:46
It
02:46
is.
02:47
They
02:47
describe
02:47
it
02:47
as
02:47
buttery,
02:49
which
02:49
I'm
02:50
not
02:50
sure
02:50
if
02:50
you
02:50
want
02:50
to
02:50
put
02:50
something
02:51
buttery
02:51
on
02:51
your
02:52
legs,
02:52
but
02:52
if
02:52
you
02:52
do
02:53
help
02:53
yourself
02:54
to
02:54
my
02:54
55
02:54
pairs
02:55
of
02:56
buttery
02:56
leggings,
02:57
but
02:57
are
02:57
they
02:57
still
02:57
thing?
02:58
Are
02:58
they
02:58
still
02:58
like
02:59
a
02:59
business
02:59
or
02:59
do
02:59
they
03:00  Speaker 3
Go
03:00
out
03:00
?
03:00  Speaker 1
I
03:00
think,
03:01
I
03:01
think
03:01
they're
03:01
kind
03:02
of
03:02
holding
03:02
on,
03:03
but
03:03
it
03:03
seems
03:04
like
03:04
it
03:04
jumped
03:04
the
03:05
shark.
03:05
There
03:05
were
03:05
so
03:05
many
03:06
people
03:06
trying
03:06
to
03:06
sell
03:06
this
03:06
stuff
03:07
and
03:07
it's
03:07
,
03:07
mid-level
03:08
marketing
03:09
people
03:09
trying
03:09
to
03:09
make
03:10
an
03:10
extra
03:10
buck
03:10
or
03:10
two.
03:11
It
03:11
just
03:11
seemed
03:11
like
03:12
a
03:12
really
03:12
nasty
03:12
company
03:13
as
03:13
I
03:13
got
03:13
into
03:14
it.
03:14
I
03:14
mean,
03:15
as
03:15
I
03:15
learned
03:15
more
03:15
about
03:15
it,
03:16
it
03:16
sounds
03:16
like
03:16
it's
03:17
the
03:17
Amway
03:18
of
03:18
leggings.
03:19
It
03:19
is
03:19
in
03:19
t
03:19
he
03:19
stuff
03:20
is
03:20
so
03:20
ugly.
03:21
I'm
03:21
not
03:21
sure
03:21
what
03:22
compulsion
03:22
was
03:22
to
03:22
buy
03:23
the
03:23
stock.
03:23
It's
03:23
like,
03:23
I
03:24
think
03:24
you
03:24
had
03:24
to
03:24
claim
03:24
them
03:24
before
03:25
other
03:25
people
03:25
did.
03:26
So
03:26
somehow
03:26
when
03:26
I
03:26
hit
03:27
sold,
03:28
like
03:28
I
03:28
felt
03:28
really
03:28
good
03:28
about
03:29
myself
03:29
for
03:29
about
03:29
five
03:30
seconds.
03:31
They
03:31
had
03:31
limited
03:31
prints.
03:32
Right?
03:32
They
03:32
did.
03:33
Yeah.
03:33
And
03:34
then
03:34
they
03:34
have
03:34
these
03:34
parties
03:34
where
03:35
they
03:35
talk
03:35
you
03:35
up
03:35
and
03:35
talk
03:36
about
03:36
like
03:36
how
03:36
great
03:36
you're
03:37
going
03:37
to
03:37
look
03:37
a
03:37
nd
03:37
these
03:37
leggings
03:38
and
03:38
then
03:38
you
03:38
put
03:39
them
03:39
on
03:39
and
03:39
you're
03:39
like,
03:39
,
03:40
I
03:40
don't
03:41
really
03:41
look
03:41
so
03:41
good.
03:42
So,
03:43
so
03:43
what
03:43
are
03:43
you
03:43
having
03:43
tonight?
03:44
I'm
03:44
having,
03:45
u
03:46
m,
03:46
nothing,
03:46
all
03:46
that
03:46
exotic,
03:47
but
03:47
it's
03:48
one
03:48
of
03:48
my
03:48
favorite
03:48
drinks.
03:49
It's
03:49
a
03:49
lemon
03:49
drop
03:49
martini.
03:50
So
03:51
I
03:51
think
03:51
yo
03:51
u
03:51
c
03:52
an
03:52
make
03:52
them
03:52
a
03:52
few
03:52
ways.
03:52
I
03:52
just
03:53
do
03:53
the
03:53
vodka,
03:54
simple
03:54
sy
03:55
rup,
03:55
fresh
03:55
lemon
03:55
juice.
03:56
And
03:57
of
03:57
course
03:57
lemon
03:58
cello.
03:59
And
03:59
then
03:59
the
03:59
most
03:59
important
04:00
part
04:00
you
04:00
co
04:00
uld
04:00
l
04:00
ike
04:00
take
04:01
the
04:01
lemon
04:01
around
04:01
the
04:01
side
04:02
of
04:02
your
04:02
glass
04:02
and
04:02
then
04:03
dip
04:03
it
04:03
in
04:03
sugar.
04:04
So
04:04
you
04:04
kind
04:04
of
04:04
get
04:04
that
04:05
like
04:05
sweet
04:05
sour
04:05
thing
04:06
going
04:06
on.
04:06
So
04:07
that's
04:07
wh
04:07
at
04:07
I
04:07
'm
04:07
having.
04:08
What
04:08
are
04:08
you
04:08
having?
04:09  Speaker 3
I
04:09
am
04:09
having
04:10
a
04:10
Georgetown
04:11
punch
04:12
and
04:13
that
04:13
has
04:13
clear
04:13
Bacardi.
04:14
It
04:14
has
04:15
dark
04:15
rum,
04:16
coconut
04:16
rum,
04:17
pineapple
04:17
juice,
04:18
cranberry
04:18
juice
04:19
and
04:19
lime
04:19
juice.
04:20
That
04:20
sounds
04:20
so
04:21
good.
04:21
And
04:22
you're
04:22
all
04:22
about
04:22
the
04:22
rum.
04:23
I
04:23
am
04:23
all
04:23
about
04:24
the
04:24
rum
04:24
and
04:24
it's
04:24
really,
04:25
really
04:25
boozy.
04:26
So
04:26
I
04:26
think
04:26
I
04:27
might've
04:27
made
04:27
a
04:27
bad
04:27
choice.
04:28
We'll
04:28
have
04:28
to
04:28
see
04:29  Speaker 1
If
04:29
you
04:30
start
04:30
repeating
04:30
yourself.
04:31
I'll
04:31
let
04:31
you
04:31
know
04:32
if
04:32
I
04:32
still
04:32
have
04:32
my
04:33
wits
04:33
about
04:33
me.
04:33  Speaker 3
Yeah.
04:34
My
04:34
editing
04:34
might
04:34
be
04:34
really
04:35
jacked
04:35
up
04:35
depending
04:36
on
04:36
how
04:36
I'm
04:36
doing.
04:36
You
04:37
might
04:37
have
04:37
your
04:37
work
04:37
cut
04:37
out
04:38
for
04:38
you
04:38
this
04:38
week.
04:39
So
04:39
this
04:40
is
04:41
a
04:41
story.
04:42
Well,
04:42
it's
04:42
a
04:42
story
04:42
that
04:43
I
04:43
think
04:43
a
04:43
lot
04:43
of
04:43
people
04:44
have
04:44
heard
04:44
about
04:44
or
04:44
watch
04:45
the
04:45
movie,
04:46
but
04:46
I
04:46
don't
04:46
think
04:46
they
04:47
really
04:47
know
04:48
the
04:48
full
04:48
story
04:49
and
04:49
what's
04:49
behind
04:49
it
04:49
.
04:50
Is
04:50
it
04:50
I'm
04:51
going
04:51
to
04:51
talk
04:51
about
04:52
the
04:52
true
04:52
story
04:53
of
04:53
the
04:53
Exorcist?
04:54
Oh
04:54
my
04:54
God.
04:55
So
04:55
what
04:55
was
04:56
behind
04:56
the
04:56
book
04:57
and
04:57
also
04:57
what
04:57
was
04:58
behind
04:59  Speaker 1
I'm
04:59
so
05:00
anxious
05:00
to
05:00
hear
05:00
this.
05:01
So
05:01
let
05:01
me
05:02
see
05:02
.
05:02  Speaker 3
You're
05:02
really,
05:02
really,
05:03
really
05:03
early
05:04
in
05:04
August
05:06
20th,
05:06
1949,
05:06
the
05:06
Washington
05:07
post
05:07
published
05:07
an
05:08
article
05:09
priests
05:09
freeze
05:09
,
05:10
Mount
05:10
rain
05:10
.
05:10
Your
05:10
boy
05:11
reported
05:11
held
05:12
a
05:12
devil's
05:12
grip
05:13
and
05:13
it
05:13
was
05:13
written
05:13
by
05:13
bill
05:14
Brinkley.
05:15
And
05:15
I'll
05:15
just
05:15
read
05:15
you
05:15
a
05:15
couple
05:16
passages
05:16
from
05:16
the
05:17
article.
05:17
Cool.
05:18
And
05:18
what
05:19
is
05:19
perhaps
05:19
one
05:19
of
05:19
the
05:19
most
05:20
remarkable
05:20
experiences
05:22
of
05:22
its
05:22
kind
05:22
a
05:22
nd
05:22
recent
05:23
religious
05:23
history,
05:24
a
05:24
14
05:25
year
05:25
old
05:25
M
05:26
ount
05:26
R
05:26
ainier.
05:26
Y
05:26
our
05:26
boy
05:27
has
05:27
been
05:27
free
05:27
by
05:27
a
05:27
Catholic
05:28
p
05:28
riest
05:29
of
05:29
possession
05:29
by
05:29
the
05:30
devil
05:30
Catholic
05:31
sources
05:31
reported
05:31
yesterday
05:32
only
05:33
after
05:33
between
05:34
20
05:34
and
05:34
30
05:35
performances
05:35
of
05:35
the
05:35
ancient
05:36
ritual
05:37
of
05:37
exorcism
05:38
here
05:38
in
05:38
s
05:38
t.
05:38
Louis
05:39
was
05:40
t
05:40
he
05:40
devil
05:40
finally
05:40
cast
05:41
out
05:41
of
05:41
the
05:41
boy.
05:41
It
05:41
was
05:41
said,
05:42
another
05:42
passage
05:43
goes
05:43
on
05:43
to
05:43
say
05:44
a
05:45
nd
05:45
a
05:45
ll,
05:45
e
05:45
xcept
05:45
the
05:45
last
05:46
of
05:46
these,
05:47
the
05:47
boy
05:47
broke
05:47
out
05:47
into
05:48
a
05:48
violent
05:48
tantrum
05:48
of
05:49
screaming,
05:49
cursing,
05:49
and
05:50
v
05:50
oice
05:50
i
05:50
t
05:50
of
05:50
Latin
05:50
phrases
05:51
and
05:52
language.
05:52
He
05:52
had
05:52
never
05:52
studied
05:53
whenever
05:53
the
05:53
p
05:53
riest
05:53
reached
05:54
the
05:54
climatic
05:54
point
05:55
of
05:55
the
05:55
ritual
05:56
a
05:56
nd
05:56
the
05:56
name
05:56
of
05:56
the,
05:57
the
05:57
son
05:57
and
05:57
the
05:57
Holy
05:58
ghost,
05:59
I
05:59
cast
05:59
the
05:59
out
05:59
devil.
06:00
So
06:01
I
06:01
don't
06:01
think
06:01
a
06:01
lot
06:01
of
06:01
people
06:02
have
06:02
heard
06:02
about
06:02
that
06:02
article.
06:03
They've
06:03
just
06:03
heard
06:03
about
06:03
the
06:03
book
06:04  Speaker 1
It's
06:04
much
06:05
earlier
06:05
than
06:05
I
06:06
would've
06:06
guessed
06:06
1949.
06:07
You
06:07
said
06:07  Speaker 3
Yes,
06:08
1949.
06:09
So
06:10
William
06:11
Peter
06:11
Blatty
06:11
,
06:12
he's
06:12
the
06:13
author
06:13
of
06:13
the
06:13
Exorcist.
06:14
When
06:15
that
06:15
article
06:15
came
06:15
out,
06:16
he
06:16
was
06:16
a
06:16
junior
06:17
English
06:17
student
06:18
at
06:18
Georgetown
06:18
university
06:19
and
06:19
he
06:19
read
06:20
the
06:20
article
06:20
and
06:20
he
06:20
just
06:21
became
06:21
fascinated
06:21
with
06:21
the
06:22
story,
06:22
but
06:23
he
06:23
didn't
06:23
do
06:23
anything
06:23
with
06:24
it.
06:24
He
06:24
just
06:24
read
06:24
it.
06:25
I
06:25
think
06:25
he
06:25
just
06:25
forgot
06:26
about
06:26
it
06:26
or
06:26
maybe
06:26
thought
06:27
about
06:27
it
06:27
throughout
06:27
the
06:27
years,
06:27
but
06:28
he
06:28
never
06:28
did
06:28
anything
06:28
with
06:28
it.
06:29
And
06:29
he
06:29
did
06:29
a
06:29
lot
06:30
of
06:30
things
06:30
in
06:30
his
06:30
career
06:31
while
06:31
he
06:31
was
06:31
getting
06:32
his
06:32
master's
06:32
degree
06:33
at
06:33
George
06:34
Washington
06:34
university.
06:35
He
06:35
worked
06:36
as
06:36
,
06:36
um,
06:36
vacuum
06:37
salesman,
06:37
a
06:37
beer
06:38
truck
06:38
driver.
06:39
He
06:39
enlisted
06:39
in
06:40
the
06:40
air
06:40
force.
06:41
And
06:41
then
06:41
later
06:41
he
06:42
worked
06:42
in
06:42
Lebanon
06:43
and
06:43
it
06:44
was
06:44
with
06:44
the
06:45
United
06:45
States
06:45
information
06:46
agency,
06:46
which
06:47
I
06:47
had
06:47
never
06:47
heard
06:47
of
06:47
before.
06:49
So
06:49
in
06:49
1960
06:51
he
06:51
published
06:51
his
06:51
first
06:52
book.
06:53
It
06:53
was
06:53
a
06:53
like
06:53
a
06:53
comedy
06:54
and
06:55
it
06:55
was
06:55
called
06:55
which
06:55
way
06:55
to
06:56
Mecca
06:56
Jack.
06:57
And
06:57
it
06:57
talks
06:57
about
06:57
his
06:58
experiences
06:58
in
06:59
Lebanon.
07:00
So
07:00
in
07:00
1969
07:02
is
07:02
when
07:02
he
07:03
began
07:03
writing
07:03
the
07:04
Exorcist
07:04
and
07:04
it
07:04
only
07:05
took
07:05
them
07:05
nine
07:05
months
07:06
to
07:06
write
07:06
this.
07:07
Then
07:07
it
07:07
was
07:07
published
07:08
in
07:08
1971
07:09
and
07:10
it
07:10
sold
07:10
1
07:11
3
07:11
million
07:11
copies
07:11
in
07:11
the
07:11
U
07:11
S
07:12
and
07:12
was
07:12
translated,
07:13
I
07:13
think
07:13
in
07:14
12
07:14
other
07:14
languages
07:15
at
07:15
that
07:15
time.
07:15
I'm
07:15
not
07:15
sure
07:16
what
07:16
it
07:16
i
07:16
s
07:16
now
07:17  Speaker 1
Curious
07:17
when
07:17
he
07:17
was
07:18
at
07:18
George
07:18
,
07:18
you
07:19
said
07:19
he
07:19
was
07:19
at
07:19
Georgetown
07:20
or
07:20
George
07:21
Washington
07:21
university.
07:22  Speaker 3
He
07:22
was
07:22
at
07:22
Georgetown.
07:23
He
07:23
actually
07:24
was
07:24
very
07:24
poor
07:25
growing
07:25
up
07:25
and
07:26
he
07:26
got
07:26
a
07:26
scholarship.
07:27
What
07:27
did
07:27
he
07:28
study
07:28
?
07:28
He
07:28
studied
07:29
English.
07:30
I
07:30
was
07:30
wondering
07:31
he
07:31
did
07:31
his
07:32
masters
07:32
at
07:32
George
07:33
Washington
07:33
university.
07:34
Okay.
07:35
He
07:35
writes
07:35
the
07:35
book
07:36
and
07:36
it
07:37
turns
07:37
into
07:37
a
07:37
movie,
07:38
the
07:38
write
07:38
a
07:38
screenplay
07:39
and
07:39
the
07:39
exercise
07:40
comes
07:40
out
07:41
the
07:41
day
07:41
after
07:41
Christmas
07:42
in
07:42
1973,
07:44
since
07:44
it
07:45
was
07:45
released
07:46
$441
07:47
million
07:48
is
07:48
what
07:48
it's
07:48
gross.
07:49
And
07:49
people
07:50
were
07:50
having
07:50
all
07:50
these
07:51
very
07:51
strong
07:51
reactions
07:52
to
07:52
them.
07:52
Like
07:53
even
07:53
physical
07:53
reactions,
07:54
you
07:54
know,
07:54
throwing
07:54
up
07:55
some
07:55
people
07:56
were
07:56
shaking,
07:57
crying.
07:58
The
07:58
reports
07:58
of
07:58
people
07:59
feigning
08:00
their
08:00
lines,
08:00
going
08:01
around
08:01
the
08:01
block
08:01
for
08:01
people
08:02
to
08:02
just
08:02
come
08:02
in
08:02
and
08:02
see
08:02
this
08:02
movie.
08:04
But
08:04
there
08:04
was
08:04
a
08:04
lot
08:04
of
08:05
visceral
08:05
reaction
08:06
to
08:06
this.
08:06  Speaker 1
You
08:07
can
08:07
see
08:07
why.
08:07
I
08:07
mean,
08:07
having
08:08
watched
08:08
the
08:08
movie
08:08
several
08:09
years
08:09
ago,
08:09
I
08:09
get
08:10
it.
08:10  Speaker 3
Yeah.
08:11
I
08:11
just
08:11
watched
08:11
it
08:11
yesterday.
08:12
I've
08:12
been
08:12
putting
08:13
it
08:13
off
08:13
all
08:13
these
08:13
years.
08:14  Speaker 1
Was
08:15
that
08:15
your
08:15
first
08:15
time
08:15
watching
08:16
it?
08:16
Yeah,
08:16
it
08:16
was
08:17
a
08:17
very
08:17
first
08:17
time.
08:17
How
08:18
can
08:18
we
08:18
hear
08:18
what
08:18
you
08:18
think
08:19
about
08:19
it?
08:19  Speaker 3
Well,
08:19
that
08:20
type
08:20
of
08:20
thing,
08:21
like
08:21
demonic
08:22
possession,
08:23
that
08:23
really
08:23
scares
08:24
me.
08:24  Speaker 1
It
08:24
does
08:24
me
08:25
too.
08:25
I
08:25
think
08:25
I
08:25
could
08:25
deal
08:26
with
08:26
any
08:26
ghosts
08:26
or
08:27
cryptids,
08:28
but
08:28
you
08:29
get
08:29
the
08:29
devil
08:29
involved,
08:30
which
08:30
I'm
08:30
not
08:30
even
08:30
sure.
08:30
I
08:30
believe
08:31
in.
08:31
Maybe
08:31
I
08:31
should
08:31
touch
08:32
wood,
08:32
but
08:33
that
08:33
freaks
08:33
me
08:33
out.
08:34  Speaker 3
I
08:34
didn't
08:34
watch
08:35
it
08:35
all
08:35
these
08:35
years
08:35
because
08:36
of
08:36
that.
08:36
And
08:37
when
08:37
I
08:37
was
08:37
reading,
08:38
we're
08:38
doing
08:38
the
08:38
research
08:39
for
08:39
this.
08:40
There
08:40
was
08:40
a
08:40
night
08:41
or
08:41
two.
08:41
I
08:41
was
08:41
here
08:42
by
08:42
myself
08:43
and
08:43
I
08:43
was
08:43
like
08:43
really
08:44
creeped
08:45
out.
08:45
And
08:46
what
08:46
I
08:46
would
08:46
do
08:46
is
08:47
I
08:47
would,
08:47
u
08:47
m,
08:48
go
08:48
check
08:48
the
08:48
doors
08:49
and
08:49
lock
08:49
them,
08:50
check
08:50
them
08:50
over
08:50
and
08:50
over
08:50
again,
08:52
I
08:52
brought
08:52
a
08:52
flashlight
08:52
upstairs.
08:54
I
08:54
looked
08:54
into
08:55
the
08:55
walk-in
08:55
closet.
08:57
U
08:57
h,
08:57
I
08:58
went
08:58
to
08:58
the
08:59
bed.
08:59
Did
09:00
you
09:00
look
09:00
under
09:00
your
09:00
bed?
09:01
I
09:01
didn't
09:01
look
09:01
under
09:02
it.
09:02
We
09:02
have
09:02
all
09:02
these
09:02
boxes
09:03
under
09:03
the
09:03
bed.
09:04
I
09:04
know
09:05
that
09:06
someone
09:06
could
09:06
not
09:07
fit
09:07
underneath
09:08
there.
09:08
Well,
09:08
that's
09:08
still,
09:09
so
09:09
what
09:10
I
09:10
did,
09:10
I
09:10
was
09:10
too
09:10
scared
09:11
to
09:11
look
09:11
underneath.
09:12
I
09:12
just
09:12
kicked
09:12
it
09:13
a
09:13
couple
09:14
times,
09:15
but
09:15
I
09:16
feel
09:16  Speaker 1
Like
09:16
locking
09:16
the
09:16
doors.
09:17
It's
09:17
not
09:17
going
09:17
to
09:17
protect
09:17
you
09:18
from
09:18
the
09:18
devil.
09:18  Speaker 3
That's
09:19
a
09:19
good
09:19
point.
09:20
Not
09:20
to
09:20
freak
09:20
you
09:20
out,
09:20
but
09:21
it
09:21
just
09:21
made
09:22
me,
09:22
I
09:22
guess,
09:23
feel
09:23
better.
09:23
Like,
09:24
you
09:24
know,
09:24
it's
09:24
hard
09:24
to
09:25
battle
09:26
a
09:26
regular
09:26
person
09:26
and
09:27
Satan
09:27
at
09:27
the
09:27
same
09:27
time.
09:28
That's
09:28
true.
09:29
I
09:29
was
09:29
trying
09:30
to
09:30
hedge
09:30
my
09:30
bets
09:32
very
09:32
wise.
09:33
So
09:33
with
09:33
the,
09:34
with
09:34
the
09:34
reactions
09:34
that
09:34
people
09:35
were
09:35
having,
09:36
I
09:36
read
09:36
that
09:37
there
09:37
was
09:37
an
09:37
article
09:38
published
09:38
in
09:38
1975
09:39
and
09:39
it
09:39
was
09:39
in
09:40
the
09:40
journal
09:40
of
09:40
nervous
09:41
and
09:41
mental
09:41
disease.
09:43
And
09:43
it
09:43
was
09:43
called
09:43
cinematic
09:44
neurosis.
09:44
Following
09:45
the
09:45
Exorcist,
09:46
I
09:46
report
09:47
a
09:47
four
09:47
cases
09:48
by
09:48
JC
09:48
Bazuto.
09:49
So
09:50
I
09:50
thought
09:50
that
09:50
was
09:51
,
09:51
um,
09:51
I
09:52
thought
09:52
that
09:52
was
09:52
crazy
09:53
because
09:53
people
09:53
were
09:53
having
09:54
such
09:54
reactions.
09:55
And
09:55
that
09:55
is
09:55
fascinating
09:56
to
09:56
me.
09:57
Have
09:57
you
09:57
ever
09:57
heard
09:57
of
09:57
that
09:57
before?
09:58
I
09:58
have
09:58
.
09:59  Speaker 1
I
09:59
work
09:59
in
09:59
mental
09:59
health,
10:00
but
10:00
I
10:00
actually
10:00
have
10:00
never,
10:01
never
10:01
heard
10:01
of
10:02
that.
10:02
It
10:02
almost
10:02
sounds
10:02
like
10:03
hysteria,
10:03
what
10:03
they
10:03
used
10:03
to
10:04
call
10:04
.
10:04  Speaker 3
Well
10:04
,
10:04
hysteria.
10:05
I
10:05
would
10:05
like
10:05
to
10:05
read
10:06
that
10:06
and
10:07
it
10:07
says
10:07
following
10:07
the,
10:08
following
10:09
the
10:09
distribution
10:10
and
10:10
release
10:10
of
10:10
the
10:10
movie,
10:11
the
10:11
Exorcist
10:12
much
10:12
publicity
10:13
concerning
10:13
the
10:14
psychiatric
10:14
hazards
10:15
of
10:15
the
10:15
film
10:15
was
10:15
reported
10:17
numerous
10:17
cases
10:17
of
10:18
traumatic
10:18
neurosis
10:19
and
10:19
even
10:19
psychosis
10:19
were
10:20
supposedly
10:20
noted.
10:21
So
10:21
that
10:22
would
10:22
be
10:22
a
10:22
good
10:22
read,
10:23
but
10:23
you
10:23
know
10:23
how
10:23
journals
10:24
are,
10:24
it's
10:25
sometimes
10:25
really
10:25
hard
10:26
to
10:26
,
10:26
to
10:26
get
10:26
the
10:26
article
10:27
without
10:27
paying
10:28
an
10:28
arm
10:28
and
10:28
a
10:28
leg
10:29
are
10:29
so
10:29
expensive.
10:30
And
10:30
I
10:30
don't,
10:31
if
10:31
the
10:31
journal
10:32
of
10:32
nervous
10:32
and
10:32
mental
10:32
disease
10:33
is
10:33
still
10:34
going
10:34
strong.
10:35
Yeah
10:35
.
10:35
Kind
10:35
of
10:35
doubt
10:35
that.
10:36
I
10:36
try
10:36
and
10:36
find
10:36
that
10:37
that
10:37
sounds
10:37
so
10:37
interesting.
10:38
There
10:38
used
10:38
to
10:38
be
10:39
something
10:39
I
10:39
paid
10:39
a
10:39
membership
10:40
to.
10:40
It
10:40
was
10:40
called
10:40
Lexus
10:41
nexus,
10:41
I
10:41
think.
10:42
And
10:43
you
10:43
could
10:43
get,
10:43
have
10:43
access
10:44
to
10:44
all
10:44
sorts
10:44
of
10:44
documents
10:45
and
10:45
journals.
10:46
And
10:46
I
10:46
don't
10:46
know
10:47
what
10:47
happened
10:47
with
10:47
them
10:47
.
10:48
That's
10:48
too
10:48
bad,
10:48
but
10:48
I
10:48
used
10:49
to
10:49
use
10:49
that
10:49
a
10:49
lot
10:50
to
10:50
do
10:50
research.
10:51
So
10:51
when
10:51
the
10:52
movie
10:52
was
10:52
released
10:53
among
10:54
the
10:54
moviegoers
10:54
were
10:54
father
10:55
William
10:55
S
10:56
bodhran
10:57
and
10:57
father
10:58
Walter
10:58
Halloran,
10:59
the
10:59
priest
10:59
who
10:59
performed
11:00
the
11:00
actual
11:00
exorcism.
11:02
So
11:02
how
11:02
Peter
11:03
bladdy
11:04
came
11:04
to
11:05
write
11:05
the
11:05
book
11:05
was
11:06
that
11:07
20
11:07
years
11:07
later,
11:08
after
11:08
reading
11:08
that
11:09
article,
11:10
he
11:10
had
11:10
a
11:10
friend
11:11
,
11:11
um,
11:12
some
11:12
say
11:12
it
11:12
was
11:12
a
11:12
professor
11:13
that
11:14
knew
11:14
father
11:16
Belden
11:16
.
11:16
I
11:16
knew
11:16
that
11:16
father
11:17
Bowden
11:17
was
11:17
involved
11:18
in
11:18
the
11:18
exorcism.
11:19
And
11:19
so
11:20
Peter
11:21
bladdy
11:21
reaches
11:21
out
11:22
to
11:23
Belden
11:23
and
11:24
asked
11:25
him,
11:25
you
11:25
know,
11:26
is
11:26
this
11:26
true?
11:27
And
11:28
Beltran
11:28
revealed
11:29
to
11:29
bladdy
11:29
that
11:29
they
11:29
had
11:30
kept
11:30
an
11:30
impeccable
11:31
diary
11:32
of
11:32
the
11:32
exorcism
11:32
itself,
11:33
but
11:33
refuse
11:33
to
11:34
share
11:34
it
11:34
with
11:34
him.
11:35
Somehow
11:36
he
11:36
gets
11:36
a
11:36
hold
11:36
of
11:36
it.
11:37
And
11:38
in
11:38
an
11:38
article
11:39
entitled
11:40
exorcism
11:41
receives
11:42
renewed
11:42
attention
11:43
by
11:43
bill
11:43
Broadway
11:44
in
11:44
2000.
11:45
And
11:45
that
11:46
again
11:46
was
11:46
in
11:46
the
11:46
Washington
11:47
post.
11:47
It
11:48
says
11:48
that
11:48
bloody
11:48
is
11:49
among
11:49
a
11:49
select
11:50
few
11:50
who
11:50
know
11:51
the
11:51
identity
11:51
of
11:51
the
11:51
boy
11:52
and
11:52
the
11:52
news
11:52
account,
11:53
but
11:53
said
11:53
he
11:53
will
11:54
absolutely
11:54
not
11:55
reveal
11:55
his
11:55
name
11:55
or
11:55
whereabouts.
11:56
He
11:56
said,
11:56
the
11:57
boy
11:57
lived
11:57
in
11:57
cottage
11:58
city,
11:58
not
11:59
Mount
11:59
Rainier
12:00
as
12:00
most
12:00
reports,
12:01
including
12:01
the
12:01
Washington
12:02
post
12:02
indicated.
12:02  Speaker 1
Well,
12:03
so
12:03
that's
12:03
a
12:03
huge
12:03
difference.
12:04
I
12:04
mean,
12:04
that's
12:04
on
12:04
the
12:05
other
12:05  Speaker 3
Side
12:05
of
12:05
the
12:05
country
12:06
Mount
12:06
Rainier,
12:07
that's
12:07
actually
12:08
right
12:08
outside
12:09
of
12:09
DC.
12:09  Speaker 1
Oh,
12:10
I
12:10
thought
12:10
[inaudible]
12:10
.
12:11
I
12:11
thought
12:11
they
12:11
they're
12:11
talking
12:11
about
12:12
Washington.
12:13  Speaker 3
No,
12:13
no.
12:14
I
12:15
think
12:15
it's
12:15
a
12:15
,
12:16
I
12:16
don't
12:16
know
12:16
if
12:16
it's
12:16
in
12:16
Montgomery
12:17
County,
12:17
but
12:18
it's
12:18
not
12:18
far
12:19
from,
12:20
from
12:20
the
12:20
city
12:21
of
12:21
DC
12:21
and
12:21
cottage
12:22
city
12:22
where
12:22
it's
12:22
not
12:23
cottage
12:23
city
12:24
is
12:24
near
12:24
Bladensburg
12:25
and
12:25
it's,
12:26
I
12:26
think
12:26
it's
12:26
less,
12:27
almost
12:28
six
12:28
miles,
12:28
a
12:29
little
12:29
bit
12:29
less
12:29
than
12:29
six
12:29
miles,
12:30
six
12:30
or
12:30
seven
12:30
miles
12:31
from
12:31
DC.
12:33
So
12:33
in
12:33
the
12:33
fictional
12:34
account,
12:34
it's
12:34
actually
12:35
a
12:35
really
12:35
big
12:35
deal
12:36
in
12:36
the
12:36
movie.
12:36
You
12:37
know,
12:37
there's
12:37
a
12:37
famous
12:37
scene
12:38
where
12:38
the
12:39
priest
12:39
dies