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episode 8: Black Eyed Kids [transcript]


What shape does fear take? Can we look into its eyes? In tonight’s episode, we’ll explore one manifestation of terror that has become an urban legend for our times. 


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 2020-11-25  39m
 
 
00:00  Speaker 1
I'm
00:00
Jenna
00:00
Sullivan
00:01
and
00:01
I'm
00:02
Jen
00:02
Lee
00:02
.
00:02
And
00:02
we'd
00:02
like
00:03
to
00:03
welcome
00:03
you
00:03
to
00:03
beneath
00:04
your
00:04
bed,
00:04
a
00:04
podcast
00:05
where
00:05
we
00:05
drag
00:06
out
00:06
all
00:06
those
00:06
fears
00:07
that
00:07
lurk
00:07
beneath
00:08
our
00:08
beds
00:08
from
00:09
the
00:09
paranormal
00:09
to
00:10
true
00:10
crime,
00:11
to
00:11
the
00:11
simply
00:11
strange
00:12
along
00:12
the
00:12
way,
00:13
we'll
00:13
be
00:13
drinking
00:13
cocktails
00:14
and
00:14
sharing
00:14
stories
00:15
from
00:15
our
00:15
Appalachian
00:16
upbringings.
00:17
What
00:17
shape
00:17
does
00:18
fear
00:18
take?
00:19
Can
00:19
we
00:19
look
00:19
into
00:19
its
00:19
eyes
00:20
in
00:20
tonight's
00:21
episode,
00:21
we'll
00:21
explore
00:22
one
00:22
manifestation
00:23
of
00:23
terror
00:23
that
00:24
has
00:24
become
00:24
an
00:24
urban
00:24
legend
00:25
for
00:25
our
00:25
times.
00:35  Speaker 2
Jen,
00:36
how
00:36
are
00:36
you?
00:36
Hey,
00:37
Jen,
00:37
it's
00:37
it's
00:38
going
00:38
all
00:38
right.
00:39
Um
00:39
,
00:39  Speaker 1
With
00:39
the
00:39
exception
00:40
of
00:40
RBG
00:41
passing
00:41
away,
00:42
I
00:42
mean,
00:42
that's
00:42
just
00:43
a
00:43
real,
00:43
real
00:44
hit.
00:44
I
00:44
really
00:45
is.
00:45
I
00:45
think,
00:46
I
00:46
think
00:46
that
00:46
hit
00:46
everybody
00:47
really
00:47
hard
00:47
when
00:48
the
00:48
news
00:48
came
00:48
in
00:48
last
00:48
Friday
00:49
night
00:49
and
00:50
she's
00:50
the
00:50
first
00:51
woman
00:51
to
00:53
lay
00:53
in
00:53
the
00:53
rotunda.
00:55
I
00:55
did
00:55
not
00:56
know
00:56
that.
00:56
Yeah
00:56
,
00:56
she's
00:57
the
00:57
first
00:57
woman
00:58
to
00:58
do
00:58
that.
00:59
And
00:59
I
00:59
was
00:59
also
00:59
reading
01:00
too,
01:01
that
01:01
she
01:01
died
01:02
on
01:02
the
01:02
Eve
01:03
of
01:03
Rosh
01:03
Hashana.
01:04
And
01:04
there's
01:04
some
01:05
significance
01:05
to
01:05
that
01:06
because
01:06
they
01:06
say
01:07
that
01:07
those
01:07
who
01:08
die
01:08
on
01:08
the
01:08
evil
01:08
Rashana
01:09
is
01:09
because
01:10
God
01:10
was
01:10
saving
01:11
them
01:11
to
01:11
the
01:11
very
01:11
last
01:12
because
01:12
they
01:12
were
01:12
needed.
01:13
Oh
01:13
my
01:13
goodness.
01:14
That's
01:15
thought
01:15
it's
01:15
just
01:15
really
01:15
striking.
01:16
Really
01:16
kind
01:17
of
01:17
gives
01:17
me
01:17
shivers.
01:17
When
01:17
I
01:17
think
01:18
about
01:18
it,
01:18
he
01:18
tells
01:19
me
01:19
too
01:19
,
01:19
she
01:20
was
01:20
just
01:20
an
01:20
amazing
01:20
woman.
01:21
I
01:21
mean,
01:22
I
01:22
think
01:22
even
01:22
her
01:22
personal
01:22
life
01:23
was
01:23
amazing.
01:23
Like
01:24
she
01:24
had
01:24
this
01:25
marriage
01:25
and
01:25
you
01:25
know,
01:26
her
01:26
love
01:26
of
01:26
opera
01:27
and
01:27
just
01:27
the
01:28
incredible
01:28
work
01:28
she
01:28
did
01:29
against
01:29
all
01:30
odds
01:30
and
01:30
so
01:31
humble.
01:31
And
01:32
she
01:32
worked
01:33
really
01:33
hard
01:33
to
01:33
keep
01:34
things
01:34
collegial
01:35
on
01:35
the
01:35
Supreme
01:35
court
01:36
did.
01:37
So
01:37
tonight
01:38
I
01:38
made
01:39
a
01:39
little
01:39
drink
01:40
and
01:40
I'm
01:40
going
01:40
to
01:40
call
01:40
it
01:41
the
01:41
RBG.
01:43
Oh
01:43
.
01:43
And
01:44
as
01:44
you
01:44
know,
01:44
last
01:44
weekend
01:45
I
01:45
made
01:45
some
01:46
strawberry
01:46
simple
01:47
syrup
01:47
and
01:47
I'm
01:47
not
01:47
sure
01:47
if
01:48
I
01:48
told
01:48
you
01:48
I
01:48
added
01:49
peppercorns
01:49
to
01:49
it.
01:49
Who
01:49
did
01:50
not
01:50
tell
01:50
me
01:50
that,
01:51
that
01:51
sounds
01:51
so
01:53
vice
01:53
to
01:53
it
01:53
with
01:53
a
01:54
RBG
01:54
I
01:55
have,
01:55
of
01:55
course
01:56
the
01:56
strawberry
01:57
black
01:57
peppercorn
01:58
strawberry
01:59
syrup.
01:59
And
02:00
I
02:00
also
02:00
added
02:01
Champaign
02:02
cause
02:02
I'm
02:02
going
02:02
to
02:02
try
02:02
to
02:02
go
02:02
through
02:02
all
02:03
of
02:03
my
02:03
champagne
02:04
vodka
02:06
rosewater
02:06
.
02:07
And
02:07
then
02:07
also
02:08
I
02:08
added
02:08
a
02:09
basil
02:09
leaf
02:09
and
02:09
it's
02:10
really,
02:10
really,
02:10
really
02:10
good.
02:11
So
02:11
I'm
02:11
going
02:11
to
02:11
write
02:11
down,
02:12
will
02:12
you
02:12
please
02:12
write
02:13
that
02:13
down
02:13
and
02:13
make
02:13
one
02:13
for
02:13
me
02:14
next
02:14
time
02:14
we
02:14
can
02:14
actually
02:15
be
02:15
together.
02:15
That
02:15
sounds
02:16
amazing.
02:16
100%.
02:17
I
02:17
think
02:18
that's
02:18
a
02:18
perfect
02:18
cocktail
02:19
for
02:19
RBG
02:19
because
02:20
it's
02:20
sweet
02:20
and
02:21
it's
02:21
elegant,
02:21
but
02:22
it's
02:22
spicy
02:22
and
02:23
a
02:23
little,
02:23
got
02:23
a
02:24
little
02:24
bit
02:24
of
02:24
a
02:24
tough
02:25
edge
02:25
with
02:25
the
02:25
pepper,
02:26
but
02:27
multifaceted
02:27
like,
02:28
like
02:28
she
02:28
was
02:29
well,
02:29
it's
02:29
very,
02:29
very
02:30
good.
02:30
So
02:30
I'll
02:31
make
02:31
you
02:31
on
02:31
the
02:31
next
02:32
time.
02:32
I
02:32
see
02:32
you.
02:32
I
02:32
would
02:33
love
02:33
that.
02:33
Well,
02:34
what
02:34
I'm
02:34
drinking
02:35
is
02:35
a
02:35
French
02:35
martini
02:36
and
02:36
I
02:36
I've
02:37
never
02:37
had
02:37
one
02:37
before,
02:38
but
02:38
I
02:39
had
02:39
recently
02:39
bought
02:40
a
02:40
bottle
02:40
of
02:40
sham
02:40
board
02:41
and
02:41
I
02:41
thought
02:41
I
02:41
need
02:41
to
02:42
do
02:42
something
02:42
with
02:42
this.
02:43
It's
02:43
just
02:43
got
02:43
vodka,
02:44
quite
02:44
a
02:44
lot
02:44
of
02:45
vodka,
02:45
actually
02:46
sham,
02:46
board
02:47
and
02:47
pineapple
02:47
juice.
02:48
And
02:48
it's,
02:48
it's
02:48
wonderful.
02:49
It's
02:49
really,
02:50
I'm
02:50
going
02:50
to
02:50
sound
02:50
really
02:50
pretentious.
02:51
And
02:51
I
02:51
really
02:51
don't
02:51
mean
02:52
to,
02:52
but
02:52
it's
02:52
elegant.
02:53
Like
02:53
it
02:53
has
02:53
this
02:53
elegant
02:54
taste.
02:54
It's
02:54
sort
02:55
of
02:55
booze
02:55
heavy
02:56
with
02:56
a
02:56
little
02:56
bit
02:56
of
02:56
the
02:56
fruit,
02:57
but
02:57
it
02:57
doesn't
02:57
have
02:57
that
02:58
real
02:58
boozy,
02:59
like
02:59
after
02:59
taste.
03:00  Speaker 3
I
03:00
can't
03:00
explain
03:00
it.
03:01
It's
03:01
it's
03:01
got
03:01
a
03:01
kick,
03:02
but
03:02
it's
03:02
,
03:02
it's
03:02
refined
03:03
and
03:03
restrained
03:04
at
03:04
the
03:04
same
03:04
time
03:05
until
03:05
I
03:05
told
03:06
you
03:06
I
03:06
was
03:06
going
03:06
to
03:06
sound
03:07
super
03:07
pretentious.
03:08
So
03:09
I
03:09
was
03:09
going
03:09
to
03:09
say,
03:09
I
03:09
would
03:10
think
03:10
like
03:10
the
03:10
pineapple
03:11
juice
03:11
could
03:11
have
03:11
drowned
03:12
it
03:12
out,
03:12
but
03:13
it
03:13
doesn't
03:13
sound
03:13
like
03:13
it
03:13
did
03:14
it.
03:14
Doesn't
03:14
in
03:14
fact,
03:15
I
03:15
think
03:15
you
03:15
would
03:15
really
03:15
like
03:16
this.
03:16
Cause
03:16
I
03:16
know
03:16
you
03:16
like
03:17
fruity
03:17
stuff,
03:17
but
03:17
sometimes
03:18
it
03:18
can
03:18
get
03:18
a
03:18
little
03:18
too
03:19
intense.
03:19
So
03:20
I'm
03:20
going
03:20
to
03:20
make
03:20
this
03:20
for
03:21
you
03:21
too
03:21
.
03:21
I
03:21
think
03:21
you
03:21
would
03:21
really
03:22
like
03:22
it.
03:22
It's
03:22
very
03:22
subtle.
03:23
Well,
03:23
next
03:23
weekend
03:24
when
03:24
we
03:24
see
03:24
each
03:25
other
03:25
social
03:25
distancing.
03:26
Yes.
03:27
Except
03:27
I
03:27
think
03:27
we
03:27
probably
03:28
shouldn't
03:28
be
03:28
making
03:29
each
03:29
other
03:29
drinks,
03:29
but
03:30
I
03:30
guess
03:30
not,
03:30
but
03:30
I
03:31
wish
03:31
we
03:31
could.
03:32
Well,
03:32
I've
03:32
been
03:32
going
03:32
through
03:33
the
03:33
Amazon
03:33
buying
03:34
spree
03:34
for
03:34
the
03:34
last
03:35
three
03:35
weeks
03:36
I
03:36
bought,
03:37
I
03:37
bought
03:37
a
03:38
bunch
03:38
of,
03:38
I
03:39
bought
03:39
like,
03:39
I
03:39
think
03:39
three
03:40
water
03:41
Globes
03:41
for
03:42
Christmas,
03:42
who
03:43
I
03:43
was
03:43
going
03:43
to
03:43
get
03:43
you
03:43
one
03:44
of
03:44
those,
03:45
you
03:45
bought
03:45
them.
03:46
I
03:46
bought
03:46
one
03:46
with
03:46
an
03:47
angel
03:47
and
03:47
I
03:48
bought
03:48
another
03:48
with
03:49
Cardinals.
03:50
And
03:50
then
03:50
I
03:50
,
03:50
I
03:51
bought
03:51
another,
03:51
I
03:51
think
03:52
that
03:52
has
03:52
Santa
03:53
Claus.
03:53
Oh
03:53
my
03:54
God
03:54
bought
03:55
another
03:55
table
03:55
runner
03:56
and
03:57
two
03:57
Christmas
03:57
trees
03:59
wait
03:59
,
04:00
like
04:00
full
04:01
size.
04:01
Well
04:02
one's
04:02
15
04:02
inches.
04:03
It's
04:03
a,
04:04
they're
04:04
both
04:04
acrylic.
04:05
And
04:06
it
04:06
does
04:06
like
04:06
the
04:06
water
04:06
globe.
04:07
It
04:07
kicks
04:07
things
04:08
off
04:08
inside
04:08
of
04:08
it.
04:08
Like
04:09
the
04:09
glitter.
04:09
Oh
04:09
,
04:09
that's
04:10
cool.
04:10
Well,
04:10
I've
04:11
been
04:11
on,
04:11
I
04:11
don't
04:12
think
04:12
it's
04:12
quite
04:12
as
04:12
big
04:13
of
04:13
a
04:13
buying
04:13
spree
04:13
as
04:13
you
04:14
have,
04:14
but
04:14
I'll
04:14
tell
04:14
you
04:14
my
04:15
latest
04:15
two
04:15
purchases.
04:16
One
04:16
of
04:16
them,
04:16
I
04:16
was
04:17
telling
04:17
my
04:17
husband
04:17
about
04:17
it
04:17
today.
04:18
I'm
04:18
like
04:18
,
04:18
um
04:18
,
04:18
so
04:19
I
04:19
bought,
04:20
I
04:20
bought
04:20
a
04:20
nut
04:20
dish.
04:21
It's
04:21
like,
04:21
you
04:22
know
04:22
,
04:22
we
04:22
bought
04:23
it
04:23
all
04:23
.
04:23
And
04:23
then
04:23
I
04:23
bought
04:24
this
04:24
picture.
04:25
It's
04:25
this
04:25
girl.
04:26
And
04:26
she's
04:26
in
04:27
this
04:27
really
04:27
like
04:27
beautiful
04:28
poofy
04:28
white
04:29
dress.
04:30
It's
04:30
really
04:30
forties
04:31
ish.
04:31
Well,
04:32
I
04:32
collect
04:32
all
04:32
those
04:32
vintage
04:33
pictures,
04:34
but
04:34
they're
04:34
lesbian
04:36
pictures.
04:37
Those
04:37
are
04:37
amazing.
04:37
I
04:38
love,
04:38
I
04:38
love
04:38
the
04:38
pictures
04:39
that
04:39
you
04:39
have.
04:39
Did
04:40
you
04:40
ever
04:40
get
04:40
that
04:40
one
04:40
framed?
04:41
No,
04:41
I
04:42
haven't.
04:42
And
04:42
I
04:42
had,
04:43
it
04:43
was
04:43
a
04:43
gift
04:43
to
04:43
me
04:44
from
04:44
last
04:44
Christmas.
04:45
So
04:45
I
04:46
do
04:46
have
04:46
to
04:46
get
04:46
a
04:47
frame
04:47
to
04:48
the
04:48
woman
04:48
that
04:48
was
04:48
restoring
04:49
it.
04:49
Well,
04:49
first
04:50
off
04:50
mind
04:50
you,
04:50
it's
04:51
a
04:51
bunch
04:51
of
04:52
together
04:52
dressed
04:53
basically
04:53
as
04:53
men.
04:54
For
04:54
the
04:54
most
04:54
part.
04:55
I
04:55
love
04:55
it.
04:56
Is
04:56
that
04:56
the
04:56
one
04:56
I
04:56
that's
04:57
the
04:57
one
04:57
I
04:57
saw,
04:57
right?
04:58
Yeah.
04:58
Yes.
04:59
I
04:59
mean,
04:59
it's
04:59
quite
04:59
clear
05:00
what's
05:00
going
05:00
on
05:01
there
05:01
what's
05:02
what's
05:02
transpiring,
05:03
but
05:04
the
05:04
woman
05:04
who
05:04
restored
05:05
it
05:05
said
05:05
that
05:05
she
05:05
thought
05:06
maybe
05:06
it
05:06
was
05:06
political
05:07
because
05:07
they
05:07
were
05:08
c
05:08
ause
05:08
they
05:08
were
05:08
all
05:09
in
05:09
uniforms.
05:11
I
05:11
don't
05:11
know
05:11
where
05:12
the
05:12
she
05:12
got
05:12
that
05:12
from,
05:13
but
05:13
I
05:13
thought
05:13
that
05:13
was
05:14
ridiculous.
05:15
I
05:15
ju
05:15
st
05:15
l
05:15
ike,
05:15
I
05:15
really
05:15
like
05:16
images
05:16
of
05:16
women
05:17
sh
05:18
ow
05:18
w
05:18
hat
05:18
that
05:18
says,
05:18
but
05:19
we
05:19
can't
05:20
be
05:20
the
05:20
only
05:20
two
05:21
that
05:21
are
05:21
not
05:21
buying
05:22
everything
05:23
lik
05:24
e
05:25
Am
05:25
azon
05:25
and
05:25
eBay.
05:26
There's
05:26
no
05:26
way
05:27
when
05:27
I'm
05:27
really
05:28
old
05:28
though.
05:28
I'm
05:29
just
05:29
going
05:29
to
05:29
be
05:29
like
05:29
this
05:29
old
05:30
lady
05:30
with
05:30
no
05:30
money.
05:31
And
05:31
I'm
05:31
like
05:31
all
05:31
this
05:31
bri
05:32
ck,
05:32
a
05:32
B
05:32
r
05:32
a
05:32
ck
05:32
ar
05:32
ound.
05:33
So
05:33
with
05:34
that,
05:35
are
05:35
you
05:35
ready?
05:35
Shall
05:35
we
05:35
start?
05:36
Yes,
05:36
I'm
05:37
ready.
05:37
All
05:38
ri
05:38
ght.
05:38
So
05:39
Jen,
05:39
this
05:40
is
05:40
a
05:40
story
05:40
about
05:40
what
05:41
happens
05:41
when
05:41
evil
05:42
cloaked
05:42
in
05:43
in
05:43
nocence
05:43
asks
05:44
to
05:44
be
05:44
invited
05:44
into
05:45
your
05:45
life.
05:46
What
05:46
do
05:46
you
05:46
think
05:46
about
05:46
that?
05:47
Yeah.
05:47
Sounds
05:48
like
05:48
a
05:48
woman.
05:51
Well,
05:51
tonight
05:51
I'm
05:51
going
05:52
to
05:52
tell
05:52
you
05:52
about
05:52
a
05:52
phenomenon
05:53
known
05:53
as
05:53
the
05:53
black
05:54
eyed
05:54
children
05:54
or
05:55
black-eyed
05:55
kids
05:56
and
05:56
they've
05:56
come
05:57
to
05:57
be
05:57
referred
05:57
to
05:58  Speaker 1
As
05:58
just
05:58
the
05:58
bee
05:59
Ks
05:59
.
05:59
So
06:00
if
06:00
that's
06:00
okay
06:00
with
06:00
you,
06:00
I
06:00
think
06:01
that's
06:01
how
06:01
it
06:01
referred
06:01
to
06:01
them
06:02
throughout
06:02
my
06:02
story.
06:03
That's
06:03
that's
06:03
good.
06:04
I
06:04
tried
06:04
to
06:05
watch
06:05
a
06:05
few
06:06
things
06:06
about
06:06
them
06:07
today.
06:07
So
06:08
I
06:08
have
06:09
a
06:09
little
06:09
bit
06:09
of
06:09
knowledge,
06:10
but
06:10
not
06:10
much
06:11
awesome.
06:11
I
06:11
actually,
06:12
I've
06:12
only
06:12
seen
06:12
one
06:13
tiny
06:13
clip.
06:13
Most
06:14
of
06:14
what
06:14
I've
06:14
done
06:14
is
06:15
read
06:15
,
06:15
but
06:15
,
06:15
um
06:15
,
06:15
I'd
06:15
be
06:15
very
06:16
curious
06:16
to
06:16
see
06:16
some
06:17
shows
06:17
about
06:17
them.
06:17
So,
06:18
I
06:18
mean,
06:18
honestly,
06:19
I
06:19
can't
06:19
even
06:19
remember
06:20
how
06:20
I
06:20
heard
06:20
about
06:21
them
06:21
or
06:22
aware
06:22
.
06:22
It
06:22
was
06:22
kind
06:22
of
06:22
recently,
06:23
it
06:23
just
06:23
kind
06:23
of
06:23
something
06:24
occurred
06:24
to
06:24
me,
06:24
like
06:25
do
06:25
the
06:25
bee
06:26
Ks
06:26
for
06:26
,
06:26
for
06:26
the
06:26
podcast.
06:27
And
06:27
I'm
06:27
trying
06:28
to
06:28
think,
06:28
I
06:28
must've
06:29
seen
06:29
them
06:29
mentioned
06:29
somewhere,
06:30
but
06:30
I,
06:30
I
06:30
honestly
06:31
can't
06:31
remember
06:31
where
06:31
that
06:32
was,
06:32
but
06:32
I
06:32
know
06:33
this,
06:33
I
06:33
do
06:34
know
06:34
that
06:34
this
06:35
is
06:35
a
06:35
phenomenon
06:35
that
06:35
like
06:36
really
06:36
gets
06:36
under
06:37
my
06:37
skin.
06:37
I
06:38
guess
06:38
I
06:38
scare
06:38
easily.
06:39
I
06:39
think
06:39
people
06:39
probably
06:39
have
06:40
gotten
06:40
that
06:40
by
06:40
now,
06:41
but
06:41
this
06:41
like
06:41
truly
06:42
frightens
06:43
me.
06:43
And
06:43
I
06:43
think
06:43
of
06:43
all
06:44
the
06:44
things
06:44
we've
06:44
talked
06:45
about,
06:45
or
06:45
at
06:45
least
06:45
the
06:45
things
06:45
I've
06:46
talked
06:46
about
06:46
on
06:46
the
06:46
podcast
06:47
so
06:47
far,
06:47
this
06:47
is
06:47
the
06:48
one
06:48
that
06:48
most
06:48
freaks
06:49
me
06:49
out.
06:49
So
06:50
I
06:50
went
06:50
to,
06:50
I
06:50
went
06:51
to
06:51
a
06:51
few
06:51
different
06:51
sources
06:52
when
06:52
I
06:52
did
06:52
an
06:52
internet
06:53
search.
06:53
Um,
06:53
so
06:54
Snopes
06:54
came
06:54
up.
06:54
So
06:55
I
06:55
looked
06:55
at
06:55
Snopes
06:56
and
06:56
Snopes,
06:56
of
06:57
course
06:57
they
06:57
said
06:57
like,
06:58
there's
06:58
no
06:58
evidence
06:59
that
06:59
this
06:59
phenomenon
07:00
actually
07:00
exists.
07:01
However,
07:01
it's
07:01
kind
07:02
of,
07:02
part
07:02
of
07:02
it's
07:02
become
07:03
part
07:03
of
07:03
urban
07:04
folklore.
07:04
And
07:05
that's
07:05
fine
07:05
because
07:06
for
07:06
me
07:06
the
07:06
fact
07:07
that
07:07
it's
07:07
so
07:07
scary,
07:08
it
07:08
doesn't
07:08
have
07:08
anything
07:08
to
07:09
do
07:09
with
07:09
whether
07:09
it's
07:09
true
07:10
or
07:10
not,
07:10
but
07:10
just,
07:11
just
07:11
imagining
07:11
it
07:11
really
07:12
terrifies
07:12
me.
07:13
So
07:13
I
07:13
also
07:13
read
07:13
about
07:14
it
07:14
in
07:14
this
07:14
article
07:14
called
07:14
black-eyed
07:15
kids,
07:15
the
07:16
chilling
07:16
legend
07:16
that
07:17
began
07:17
an
07:17
Abilene,
07:18
and
07:18
this
07:18
was
07:18
from
07:18
Texas
07:19
Hill
07:19
country.com.
07:20
So
07:21
according
07:21
to
07:21
those
07:22
two
07:22
sites,
07:23
the
07:23
first
07:23
story
07:24
or
07:24
the
07:24
first
07:25
sighting
07:25
about
07:25
black
07:26
eyed
07:26
kids
07:26
,
07:26
um
07:26
,
07:26
is
07:27
from
07:27
1996.
07:28
And
07:28
it
07:28
was
07:28
a
07:29
guy
07:29
named
07:30
Brian
07:30
Bethel
07:30
who
07:30
apparently
07:31
was
07:31
a
07:31
journalist
07:32
and
07:32
he
07:32
was
07:32
living
07:32
in
07:32
Abilene,
07:33
Texas.
07:34
So
07:34
he
07:35
,
07:35
um,
07:35
he
07:35
processed
07:36
his
07:36
experiences
07:37
and
07:37
a
07:37
lot
07:37
of
07:37
his
07:38
feelings
07:38
about
07:38
life,
07:39
just
07:39
as
07:39
a
07:39
writer,
07:40
like
07:40
by
07:40
writing
07:40
about
07:40
it.
07:41
And
07:41
I
07:41
guess
07:41
he
07:41
had
07:41
an
07:42
interest
07:42
in
07:42
the
07:42
paranormal
07:43
because
07:43
he
07:43
posted
07:44
about
07:44
it
07:44
on
07:44
this
07:45
ghost
07:45
related.
07:46
What
07:46
I
07:46
suppose
07:47
in
07:47
the
07:47
nineties
07:47
would
07:47
have
07:47
been
07:48
like
07:48
a
07:48
listserv
07:49
,
07:49
um
07:49
,
07:49
because
07:49
I
07:49
know
07:49
it
07:49
was
07:50
a
07:50
closed
07:50
group.
07:51
You
07:51
had
07:51
to
07:51
be
07:51
a
07:51
member
07:52
of
07:52
the
07:52
group
07:53
to
07:53
read
07:53
the
07:53
posts,
07:54
but
07:54
somehow
07:55
he
07:55
,
07:55
he
07:55
posted
07:55
there
07:56
and
07:56
then
07:56
the
07:56
story
07:56
just
07:56
really
07:57
took
07:57
off.
07:57
I
07:57
mean,
07:57
it
07:58
went
07:58
what
07:58
we
07:58
would
07:58
now
07:58
say
07:59
viral.
08:00
He
08:00
is
08:00
the
08:00
first,
08:01
according
08:01
to
08:01
most
08:01
sources
08:02
who
08:02
had
08:02
an
08:03
encounter.
08:03
So
08:03
this
08:04
happened
08:04
to
08:04
him
08:04
in
08:04
1996.
08:05
I
08:05
think
08:05
he
08:06
posted
08:06
on
08:06
the,
08:07
on
08:07
the
08:07
list
08:07
around
08:08
1998,
08:09
according
08:09
to
08:09
him,
08:10
it
08:10
was
08:10
nighttime
08:11
and
08:11
he
08:12
had
08:12
to
08:12
pay
08:12
a
08:12
bill.
08:13
And
08:13
I
08:13
don't
08:13
know
08:13
if
08:13
the
08:13
bill
08:14
was
08:14
maybe
08:15
going
08:15
to
08:15
be
08:15
late
08:15
if
08:15
he
08:15
didn't
08:16
get
08:16
it
08:16
in,
08:16
get
08:16
it
08:17
in
08:17
by
08:17
the
08:17
next
08:17
day.
08:17
But
08:17
he
08:17
decided
08:18
to
08:18
take
08:18
a
08:18
check
08:19
and
08:19
drop
08:20
it
08:20
off
08:20
at
08:20
the
08:20
,
08:21
um,
08:21
at
08:21
a
08:21
Dropbox
08:22
or
08:22
something.
08:22
So
08:22
he's
08:23
in
08:23
the
08:23
shopping
08:23
center
08:24
and
08:24
he's
08:24
in
08:24
his
08:24
car.
08:25
Is
08:25
this
08:25
in
08:25
the
08:26
evening?
08:26
It
08:26
is.
08:27
So
08:27
it's
08:27
nighttime.
08:28
Yeah
08:28
,
08:28
it's
08:28
dark.
08:29
And
08:29
he's
08:29
in
08:29
the
08:29
shopping
08:30
center
08:30
and
08:31
he's
08:31
in
08:31
his
08:31
car
08:31
just
08:32
riding
08:32
out
08:32
the
08:32
track
08:33
cause
08:33
he's
08:33
like
08:33
me
08:33
and
08:33
he
08:33
never
08:34
does
08:34
anything
08:35
in
08:35
preparation
08:36
in
08:36
advance.
08:36
He's
08:37
always,
08:37
you
08:37
know,
08:37
he
08:37
was
08:38
just
08:38
doing
08:38
it
08:38
at
08:38
the
08:38
last
08:38
minute
08:39
and
08:39
he
08:39
was
08:39
going
08:39
to
08:39
drop
08:39
it
08:39
off.
08:40
So
08:40
while
08:40
he's
08:40
writing,
08:41
he
08:41
hears
08:41
this
08:42
rapping
08:42
.
08:42
It
08:42
reminds
08:43
me
08:43
of
08:43
something
08:43
on
08:43
a
08:43
pole,
08:44
right.
08:44
This
08:44
wrap
08:44
,
08:45
wrap
08:45
,
08:45
wrapping
08:45
it
08:45
,
08:45
his
08:46
card
08:46
or
08:46
his
08:47
car
08:47
window
08:47
.
08:47
So
08:47
he
08:47
looks
08:48
up
08:48
and
08:48
he
08:48
sees
08:49
two
08:49
boys
08:49
and
08:50
he
08:50
estimated,
08:50
they
08:50
were
08:51
somewhere
08:51
between
08:51
10
08:52
and
08:52
14
08:52
years
08:52
old.
08:53
He
08:53
couldn't
08:53
quite
08:53
tell.
08:53
But
08:54
what
08:54
he
08:54
did
08:54
say
08:54
was
08:54
that
08:55
immediately
08:56
felt
08:56
this
08:56
immense
08:57
sense
08:57
of
08:57
uneasiness,
08:58
but
08:59
you
08:59
know,
08:59
they're
08:59
kids
08:59
and
09:00
they're
09:00
outside
09:00
and
09:00
it's
09:01
late.
09:01
So
09:02
I
09:02
think
09:02
it
09:02
was
09:02
around
09:02
10
09:02
30
09:03
at
09:03
night.
09:03
So
09:03
he
09:04
rolled
09:04
his
09:04
window
09:04
down
09:04
a
09:04
few
09:05
inches
09:05
to
09:05
ask
09:06
what
09:06
it
09:06
was
09:06
they
09:06
wanted.
09:07
And
09:07
they
09:07
told
09:08
him
09:08
that
09:08
they
09:09
had
09:09
planned
09:09
to
09:09
go
09:09
to
09:09
a
09:09
movie,
09:10
but
09:10
that
09:10
they'd
09:10
forgotten
09:11
their
09:11
money
09:11
at
09:11
home.
09:12
So
09:12
they
09:13
asked
09:13
him
09:13
to
09:13
let
09:13
them
09:13
into
09:13
their
09:14
car
09:14
so
09:14
that
09:14
he
09:15
could
09:15
drive
09:15
them
09:15
home
09:15
to
09:15
pick
09:16
up
09:16
the
09:16
money.
09:16
And
09:17
he
09:17
was
09:17
like,
09:17
well,
09:18
you
09:18
know,
09:18
I'm
09:18
not
09:18
sure
09:19
about
09:19
that.
09:19
Like
09:20
what
09:20
are
09:20
your
09:20
kids
09:20
going
09:20
to
09:20
a
09:20
movie?
09:21
You
09:21
know,
09:21
at
09:21
this
09:21
hour,
09:22
I'm
09:22
just
09:22
sort
09:22
of
09:22
imagining
09:23
what
09:23
the
09:23
conversation
09:23
was
09:24
like.
09:24
But
09:24
apparently
09:24
the
09:25
kids
09:25
said
09:25
something
09:25
like,
09:26
you
09:26
know,
09:26
don't,
09:26
don't
09:26
be
09:26
worried.
09:27
We're
09:27
just
09:27
two
09:27
kids.
09:28
It's
09:28
not
09:28
gonna
09:28
take
09:29
long.
09:29
Just
09:29
let
09:30
us
09:30
in,
09:30
ask
09:30
us
09:30
inside,
09:32
ask
09:32
us
09:32
inside
09:32
your
09:32
car.
09:33
And
09:33
they
09:33
made
09:33
it
09:33
clear
09:34
that
09:34
they
09:34
couldn't
09:35
get
09:35
into
09:35
the
09:35
car
09:36
until
09:36
he
09:36
gave
09:36
them
09:37
permission
09:37
to
09:37
do
09:37
so.
09:38  Speaker 3
Did
09:38
he
09:39
give
09:39
them
09:39
permission?
09:40  Speaker 1
He
09:40
did
09:40
not.
09:41
So
09:41
I
09:41
would
09:41
say
09:42
maybe
09:42
halfway
09:42
through
09:42
this
09:43
encounter,
09:43
towards
09:43
the
09:43
end
09:43
of
09:43
the
09:44
encounter,
09:44
he
09:45
saw
09:45
their
09:45
eyes
09:46
and
09:46
there
09:46
,
09:46
he
09:46
noticed
09:47
that
09:47
their
09:47
eyes
09:48
were
09:48
completely
09:48
black.
09:49
So
09:49
it
09:50
wasn't.
09:50
So
09:50
we're
09:50
going
09:51
to
09:51
just
09:51
talking
09:51
because
09:51
I
09:51
have
09:51
dark
09:52
eyes,
09:52
but
09:52
it's
09:52
not
09:53
like
09:53
their
09:53
eyes
09:53
were
09:54
dark.
09:54
It
09:54
was,
09:55
it
09:55
was
09:55
like
09:55
the
09:55
entire
09:56
I
09:56
was
09:56
,
09:56
was
09:56
completely
09:57
black.
09:57
So
09:58
the
09:58
sclera,
09:58
which
09:58
I
09:59
didn't
09:59
even
09:59
know
09:59
the
09:59
name,
10:00
but
10:00
apparently
10:00
the
10:01
white
10:01
part
10:01
of
10:01
your
10:01
eyes
10:01
called
10:02
the
10:02
sclera
10:02
was
10:03
completely
10:03
black.
10:03
So
10:03
like
10:04
looking
10:04
at
10:04
somebody
10:04
who
10:05
has
10:05
no
10:05
pupils,
10:05
no
10:06
white
10:06
part
10:06
of
10:06
their
10:07
eye
10:07
,
10:07
just
10:07
just
10:07
avoid
10:08
basically.
10:08
And
10:09
he
10:09
,
10:09
he
10:09
completely
10:09
loses
10:10
it
10:10
at
10:10
this
10:10
point
10:10
.
10:10
At
10:11
this
10:11
point,
10:11
he
10:11
talks
10:11
about
10:12
how
10:12
his
10:12
fight
10:12
or
10:12
flight
10:13
response
10:13
just
10:14
took
10:14
over
10:15
and
10:15
in
10:15
a
10:15
panic,
10:15
like
10:15
he
10:16
starts
10:16
the
10:16
car
10:16
up
10:16
and
10:17
he
10:17
drives
10:17
away
10:17
as
10:17
fast
10:18
as
10:18
he
10:18
can.
10:18
And
10:19
as
10:19
he's
10:19
driving
10:20
away,
10:20
he's
10:20
kind
10:21
of,
10:21
I
10:21
guess
10:21
he
10:21
had
10:21
the
10:21
presence
10:22
of
10:22
mind
10:22
to
10:22
look
10:23
in
10:23
the
10:23
rear
10:23
view
10:23
mirror
10:24
and
10:24
they
10:24
had
10:24
vanished.
10:25
He
10:25
didn't
10:25
see
10:25
anybody
10:26
or
10:26
anything.
10:27  Speaker 3
There's
10:27
something
10:27
to
10:27
me
10:27
that's
10:28
so
10:29
frightening.
10:30
Anything
10:30
to
10:30
do
10:30
with
10:30
a
10:30
knock
10:31
or
10:31
a
10:32
rapping
10:33
like
10:33
at
10:33
the
10:33
door,
10:33
especially
10:34
at
10:34
a
10:34
window.
10:35
I
10:35
just
10:35
find
10:36
that,
10:36
I
10:36
mean,
10:36
agree
10:37
with
10:37
that.
10:37
I
10:37
mean,
10:38
have
10:38
you
10:38
ever
10:38
been
10:38
on
10:38
your
10:38
car
10:39
and
10:39
someone's
10:39
knocked
10:40
on
10:40
your
10:40
window
10:40
and
10:41
how
10:41
do
10:41
you
10:41
jump
10:41
out
10:42
of
10:42
your
10:42
skin?
10:43
I
10:43
have
10:43  Speaker 1
That
10:44
happened
10:44
to
10:44
me.
10:44
He
10:44
actually,
10:45
outside
10:45
of
10:46
a
10:46
workplace
10:46
one
10:47
time
10:47
,
10:47
um,
10:47
I
10:47
was
10:48
doing
10:48
something
10:48
in
10:48
the
10:48
car.
10:49
It
10:49
was
10:49
the
10:49
end
10:49
of
10:49
the
10:49
Workday
10:50
getting
10:50
ready
10:50
to
10:50
leave.
10:51
And
10:51
a
10:51
client
10:52
actually
10:52
,
10:53
um,
10:53
was
10:53
wrapping
10:53
up
10:53
my
10:54
window
10:54
and
10:54
I
10:54
looked
10:55
up
10:55
and
10:55
I
10:55
mean
10:55
,
10:55
I
10:55
,
10:55
I
10:55
jumped.
10:56
I
10:56
was
10:56
like,
10:56
what
10:57
in
10:57
the
10:57
world?
10:57  Speaker 3
About
10:58
two
10:58
to
10:59
three
10:59
years
11:00
ago,
11:01
we
11:01
,
11:01
you
11:01
know,
11:01
I
11:01
have
11:01
really
11:01
bad
11:02
insomnia
11:03
and
11:03
I
11:03
hadn't
11:03
slept
11:03
for
11:04
almost
11:04
a
11:04
day.
11:05
So
11:05
on
11:05
the
11:05
way
11:06
back
11:06
from
11:06
a
11:06
work
11:06
event,
11:07
and
11:07
this
11:07
is
11:07
during
11:07
broad
11:08
daylight,
11:08
I
11:09
am
11:09
like,
11:09
you
11:09
know,
11:09
I
11:09
need
11:09
to
11:09
pull
11:10
over.
11:10
I
11:10
need
11:10
to
11:10
get
11:10
some
11:11
sleep,
11:11
take
11:12
a
11:12
little
11:12
nap
11:12
or,
11:13
you
11:13
know,
11:13
I
11:13
don't
11:13
want
11:13
to
11:13
get
11:13
an
11:14
accident
11:14
and
11:14
hurt
11:15
somebody.
11:15
So
11:16
I
11:16
pull
11:16
over
11:16
at
11:17
this
11:17
dairy
11:17
queen
11:18
and
11:18
try
11:18
to
11:18
kind
11:18
of
11:19
park
11:19
in
11:19
a
11:19
remote
11:19
spot
11:20
and