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episode 67: Singing soul in Germany, and BLM from a distance (Alicia from the USA) [transcript]


Alicia is a soul and blues singer currently living in Germany. She moved from Texas, USA to Germany complete her studies just over a year ago. I discuss with Alicia what her mindset is after moving countries in such a turbulent year, what her feelings on Germany are, and how she was able to speak out for Black Lives Matter from Germany.

Watch Alicia's BLM speech in Hannover

Visit Alicia's website to watch videos of her performing and to learn more about her: Alicia Cibola Music
Follow her on Instagram: aliciacibola
Alicia on YouTube: Alicia Cibola

SEGEPADFO:
Advent time is also time for me to face off with my sworn rival, Nicole of The Expat Cast, to see who can raise the most money for charity. This year, the cause is funding a mobile kitchen in Freiburg for Über den Tellerrand. Über den Tellerrand aims to  create opportunities for people of different cultures to meet and and to integrate.

For more information, visit TheGermanyExperience.de/Charity2020

POSTCARDS FROM 2020:
What was 2020 like for you? What did you learn? And most importantly, what message do you want to give to others? I want to compile your responses and put together an episode called Postcards from 2020. Send me your contributions: write me a message at TheGermanyExperience.de/contact, leave me a voice message through my website, or write me an email at info@thegermanyexperience.de.


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 2020-11-30  47m
 
 
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at Advent time in Germany, there
00:45
are a lot of things that we
00:48
don't have. We don't have large
00:48
family gatherings. We don't have
00:52
Christmas markets. And we
00:52
probably won't even have
00:55
overcrowded stores as people
00:55
rush to buy gifts. But what we
00:59
will have is a tradition that
00:59
started last year, if you were
01:02
listening to the show back then
01:02
over the 2019 Advent period,
01:06
Nicole of the xpac cost and I
01:06
faced off against each other to
01:10
see who could raise the most
01:10
money for charity. Now, it
01:13
wasn't important who won or not,
01:13
but I won. And we call that the
01:17
first ever German expert
01:17
podcasters face off, or
01:20
FEGEPADFO. for short. I don't
01:20
know if you could hear the
01:23
quotation marks marks there. And
01:23
this year, guess what? It's
01:27
SEGEPADFO. The second ever
01:27
German expert podcasters face
01:30
off, it's no more easier to
01:30
pronounce this year or to
01:34
remember, but it's back. And
01:34
there's a short bonus episode
01:37
that I released yesterday
01:37
explaining it, Nicole and I
01:40
chatted about what we're doing
01:40
this year. So go and listen to
01:44
that. This time, there's only
01:44
one charity and that's a charity
01:48
called Uber den killer. And now
01:48
what they do, they're a Germany
01:52
wide organization that brings
01:52
Germans and foreigners together
01:55
over a plate of food to connect,
01:55
practice language skills and
01:59
promote intercultural
01:59
competency. The Freiburg branch,
02:02
which is local to Nicole is
02:02
raising money to create a
02:06
portable kitchen that would
02:06
enable them to expand and
02:09
improve their events. And we'll
02:09
get more into it with Intel and
02:13
as the week's progress over the
02:13
over the Advent time. But that's
02:17
what you need to know. Now
02:17
that's the the cause that we're
02:20
donating to because it's a
02:20
really great way of integrating
02:24
different cultures and, and
02:24
making sure that we keep we
02:27
don't end up with dysfunctional
02:27
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03:00
2020. And this, just like it was
03:00
last year, it's something that
03:04
is very dear to my heart. One
03:04
thing that Nicole and I do agree
03:08
on is that Germany has given us
03:08
both so much. And we really want
03:12
to give back in some way over
03:12
this Advent time. So get
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donating the Germany experience
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03:19
And it might seem like we're
03:19
working together by the way, but
03:22
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03:22
to take Nicole down. She's my
03:26
rival, I want to take her that
03:26
was the way this works. And by
03:30
the way, the speaking of there
03:30
will be challenges along the
03:33
way. And Nicole has already
03:33
issued me her first one, I must
03:37
write a jingle for segi pedco.
03:37
By next Sunday, no problem, I'll
03:41
just bang a tune up. It's very
03:41
easy to write songs after all.
03:45
So there'll be a jingle
03:45
hopefully coming up before next
03:48
Sunday. So a little bit of
03:48
pressure on me. Another thing
03:51
that I want to talk about is in
03:51
a few weeks, I am planning a
03:55
sort of the last episode of the
03:55
year, I'm going to take a break
03:59
for the second half of December.
03:59
And I want to do an episode
04:02
called Postcards from 2020. And
04:02
I need your input I need you to
04:06
give me your thoughts and
04:06
feelings about 2020. And
04:09
essentially, I want to know what
04:09
was 2020 like for you? What did
04:13
you learn this year? And more
04:13
importantly, what message do you
04:17
have for other people going into
04:17
2021? What is what do you think
04:21
2020 has given you that you have
04:21
a message to give forward. I
04:24
would love to hear your
04:24
thoughts. So as I said at the
04:28
top of the show, you can contact
04:28
me at the Germany experience dot
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write me an email at info at the
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04:39
I'll also be putting out that
04:39
request to get your Postcards
04:43
from 2024 for an episode that's
04:43
going to happen in a few weeks
04:46
time. Now, we're on to my guest.
04:46
She is Alicia and she's a soul
04:50
and blues singer from Texas,
04:50
United States of America and
04:54
she's releasing her debut EP
04:54
next year that she is recording
04:57
in Germany. Actually. She's only
04:57
been here for a year and what a
05:01
year to move to another country.
05:01
I mean, being far from home is
05:05
hard enough at the best of times
05:05
with everything that happened,
05:09
especially as an American this
05:09
year, it was particularly tough.
05:13
And I first noticed Alicia, way
05:13
back in May, June, after the
05:16
death of George Floyd when she
05:16
was very vocal on her Instagram
05:20
account. And I thought it would
05:20
be great to get her on and just
05:24
hear more from her about how she
05:24
is part of something that is
05:28
happening very far away from
05:28
her. So it says, you know, what
05:31
is it like to feel the need to
05:31
contribute to this cause that's
05:35
happening in our home country of
05:35
America, but being here in
05:39
Germany, so she talks a bit
05:39
about that. We also talk about
05:42
music, we talk about why she is
05:42
in Germany, and also how her
05:46
time has been in general here in
05:46
Germany. Here is Alicia to
05:49
explain it all.
05:57
and you're a soul blues and pop
05:57
singer living in Germany. Yes,
06:03  Alicia
I am. What a strange
06:03
combination.
06:07  Shaun B
What a strange
06:07
combination, but we're gonna get
06:08
to that. We're gonna get to your
06:08
your why you're in Germany.
06:12
We'll get to that shortly. But
06:12
you're originally from Texas,
06:15
aren't you?
06:16  Alicia
Yes. So actually, I grew
06:16
up in Louisiana. But I was
06:20
living in Texas before I moved
06:20
here for the last five years.
06:24
And I actually was born in
06:24
Texas, but not Yeah, I was I
06:28
went to school and everything in
06:28
Louisiana. I was raised in
06:30
Louisiana.
06:32  Shaun B
Okay. I mean, first of
06:32
all, I must ask you, are you a
06:34
professional musician? Or is
06:34
this a hobby? Mr. I assume it's
06:37
professional, right?
06:38  Alicia
I mean, I consider
06:38
myself a professional. But I
06:43
guess you got to ask the
06:43
audience members. Yeah. Okay.
06:46  Shaun B
But But you're doing it
06:46
full time. This is your
06:48
livelihood.
06:49  Alicia
I'm not doing it full
06:49
time. I'm doing it part time.
06:53
But I would like to do it full
06:53
time. Okay, I'm also a student.
06:57
So for me, though, the focus and
06:57
what I would love to do, you
07:02
know, every day of my life is
07:02
music. But that's also that's
07:05
not always sustainable. You
07:05
know?
07:07  Shaun B
Yeah, it's always the
07:07
problem with the arts, isn't it?
07:09
It's you never know where the
07:09
next job is coming from or where
07:12
the next thing is going to be.
07:12
But I can say, for the listeners
07:16
that maybe haven't known, I'm
07:16
going to put all the links, or
07:19
I'm going to put some links to
07:19
YouTube videos in the show notes
07:22
that you've got an incredible
07:22
voice insanely talented.
07:25  Alicia
No, thank you. Thank you
07:25
so much. I appreciate that.
07:30  Shaun B
So how did you get into
07:30
music?
07:34  Alicia
So I've been singing
07:34
since I was really small. I was
07:38
always in like school plays and
07:38
musical productions. And at one
07:43
point, I was into acting and
07:43
stuff when I was small. But for
07:47
me, it was always about the
07:47
music. I loved being in choirs.
07:52
We had choirs and my schools.
07:52
That's one of the things that I
07:55
really appreciate about the
07:55
American school system is like
07:58
the heavy, heavy focus on the
07:58
arts, especially at a young age,
08:03
you know, for students. And so
08:03
for me, it was about singing at
08:06
school, I was singing in church,
08:06
you know, every week I was
08:10
saying in church, and that, for
08:10
me definitely had a huge impact
08:13
on my love of music.
08:17  Shaun B
So, so how did you end
08:17
up in Germany now?
08:25  Alicia
So I ended up in
08:25
Germany, because I actually was
08:28
dating somebody who's from here,
08:28
okay. And at one point, I knew I
08:34
wanted to leave the US. And but
08:34
I was kind of looking at all my
08:38
options and thinking, Okay,
08:38
where can I go? I know, I want
08:41
to be in Europe. But what is the
08:41
best place for me to be,
08:45
especially because of school as
08:45
well, I knew I wanted to pursue
08:48
a master's degree. And it had to
08:48
be in a place that was
08:51
affordable, and, you know,
08:51
offering something that I would
08:54
want. And so for me, Germany was
08:54
the next step after a long list
08:59
of, you know, considerations of
08:59
other countries, but I ended up
09:03
with choosing Germany, and I'm
09:03
really glad that I did.
09:09  Shaun B
Okay, so it sounds like
09:09
you're having a good time in
09:11
Germany, then.
09:12  Alicia
Yeah, now.
09:15  Shaun B
Okay, well, we'll get
09:15
to your trials and tribulations.
09:18
In short, because it sounds like
09:18
there are some, but why not the
09:21
USA though? What was the what
09:21
was the attraction about going
09:24
to Europe?
09:26  Alicia
So for me, I've been to
09:26
Europe a bunch of times before
09:29
actually moving here. So I
09:29
already knew that I just found
09:33
like, the lifestyle here more
09:33
attractive. Um, for me, it also
09:37
was about cost. Like I knew that
09:37
getting a master's degree in the
09:40
States was going to cost me a
09:40
lot of money. Just because
09:44
higher education is just
09:44
expensive. And I knew that
09:49
healthcare was going to be
09:49
expensive. I knew. I mean,
09:52
there's so many like expensive
09:52
things about the lifestyle in
09:55
America, and that I wanted to
09:55
kind of get away from and part
09:59
of that was the stress of money,
09:59
even though I was working full
10:03
time, as a social media manager
10:03
and web manager, that still did
10:09
not alleviate the stress of, you
10:09
know, having to pay for
10:12
everything. And I knew that
10:12
coming to Europe, especially
10:17
Germany would be pretty cost
10:17
effective for me. And that would
10:21
get rid of that, that, you know,
10:21
that level of stress that I had.
10:26
And it absolutely, I was totally
10:26
right about that. Because now I
10:29
don't have you know, those kinds
10:29
of stresses.
10:33  Shaun B
Yeah, I'm always amazed
10:33
when I meet Americans that
10:35
almost every single one of them
10:35
are being followed around by
10:37
student debt, at least. Oh,
10:37
yeah, it's incredible, the
10:41
amount of student pensive,
10:42  Alicia
I went to a very, I went
10:42
to the University of Louisiana
10:45
at Lafayette. And it's not an A
10:45
crazy, expensive school, like,
10:50
it was just like an average, you
10:50
know, and my bachelor's degree
10:54
cost me $40,000. And that's a
10:54
cheap school, you know, like, I
11:00
have friends who went to private
11:00
institutions and Ivy League
11:03
schools, and their debt is three
11:03
or four times mine. So insane.
11:07
It's insane. And when I tell
11:07
people here how much it is,
11:10
especially other students, they
11:10
can't believe it, you know,
11:14
because here, it's like, I think
11:14
I pay like 500 euros or
11:18
something a semester, which is
11:18
the cost of like, my books for
11:21
one semester in the States. So a
11:21
I like, for me,
11:27  Shaun B
it's a very attractive
11:27
thing that this study here, and
11:31
you can study in English? And
11:31
are you studying in English? Or
11:33
are you studying in German?
11:35  Alicia
Yes, so my program is in
11:35
English. And that was one of the
11:39
main things for me was to be
11:39
able to find a program that I
11:43
could study in English. And
11:43
that's what I found. And so for
11:47
me, it was mostly about finding
11:47
something affordable, and
11:52
something that was gonna benefit
11:52
me, you know, and the US, I
11:56
mean, it's, it's expensive in a
11:56
lot of ways. But there are some
12:00
benefits, you know, like, there
12:00
are major differences within the
12:04
schooling systems here. And back
12:04
home, it's like you kind of you
12:09
pay a lot, but you, you can kind
12:09
of expect a lot from the
12:12
university, because you're
12:12
paying so much. So there, there
12:15
are small differences, like just
12:15
like offices being open every
12:18
day, from nine to five, always
12:18
having access to the people you
12:21
need, um, entire staff dedicated
12:21
to helping international
12:26
students and housing and all of
12:26
that stuff. Here. It's a little
12:29
bit more bear. I think in terms
12:29
of like staffing, and it's more
12:34
you have to be more independent,
12:34
you have to be able to get a lot
12:37
of this stuff done by yourself.
12:39  Shaun B
Okay, I guess I guess
12:39
that does make sense, because I
12:42
can say you're paying a lot less
12:42
here in Germany for that
12:46
tuition.
12:47  Alicia
Yeah.
12:49  Shaun B
So your here to study
12:49
you've been here? How long did
12:52
you say?
12:53  Alicia
I've been here for one
12:53
year, just one year, So I'm
13:00
still a baby here.
13:02  Shaun B
And what and how long
13:02
is the plan for what is how long
13:05
are you planning to stay for?
13:07  Alicia
So I don't want to
13:07
leave? I am convinced now that I
13:09
want to stay.
13:10  Shaun B
I feel like it can go
13:10
either way. After a year. Some
13:17
people might be after a year
13:17
hitting that stage where they're
13:19
thinking this is not as great as
13:19
I thought it was in the first
13:21
few months. And now maybe
13:21
they're thinking of heading
13:24
home, but good for you. It's the
13:24
opposite.
13:26  Alicia
No, yeah, I absolutely
13:26
love it here and considering the
13:31
state of what's going on in
13:31
America. I am not exactly I'm
13:35
rushing to get back. I can
13:35
always visit and I have visited
13:40
once since I've moved here. But
13:40
I don't have any plans of moving
13:45
back anytime soon.
13:47  Shaun B
Okay, so you can see
13:47
yourself been here for a while?
13:49  Alicia
Yes, absolutely. I could
13:49
see myself living here forever.
13:52
Probably. Really?
13:54  Shaun B
How long as the degree?
13:56  Alicia
It's two years.
13:57  Shaun B
Okay. Yeah. So yeah,
13:57
it's very interesting that, that
14:03
you're seeing it that way. So
14:03
how, in this year that you have
14:06
been here? How has it been for
14:06
you, with regards to integrate
14:10
into Germany? Sounds like it's
14:10
been great. From what you're
14:12
saying?
14:13  Alicia
Well, it's great now,
14:13
but in the beginning, it was not
14:17
easy. And I think for me, the
14:17
biggest thing was the language
14:20
barrier. I'm a pretty resilient
14:20
person. I'm pretty tough. You
14:24
know, I, I'm very independent.
14:24
But for me, being here, the
14:29
language I think was the
14:29
hardest, it has been the hardest
14:32
barrier for me to cross. And
14:32
because it kind of makes you
14:36
feel helpless, like when you
14:36
don't, when you don't speak and
14:38
like I can understand some, but
14:38
I'm still learning. And I speak
14:42
like three other languages. So
14:42
adding this one to the docket
14:47
was not easy. And like I said,
14:47
I'm still learning and so aside
14:53
from the language, I think there
14:53
were some cultural things too,
14:55
that I definitely experienced
14:55
that made it a little bit
14:59
harder. But the beginning was
14:59
not easy. And I think I think no
15:03
matter where you move, you're
15:03
going to have some some trials
15:07
and tribulations, you're going
15:07
to have some hurdles to jump
15:10
over. And I was expecting that I
15:10
didn't think I was going to come
15:13
here. And it was just going to
15:13
be a breeze. But I also didn't
15:16
expect it to be as hard as it
15:16
was the beginning. And let's,
15:21
let's say like the first six
15:21
months were really difficult.
15:24  Shaun B
And and you mentioned
15:24
the language barrier. What else
15:28
was it about that time that
15:28
makes it difficult?
15:31  Alicia
I think being so far
15:31
away from home and being away
15:34
from everyone, and very family
15:34
oriented, and I'm very, like,
15:40
you know, social, and I love my
15:40
friends and my family back home.
15:43
And for me, that was one of the
15:43
hardest parts is being away. I'd
15:47
never been homesick before. And
15:47
I've traveled all over the
15:51
world. I've been out of the
15:51
country for extended periods of
15:54
time. But I'd never been like
15:54
living outside of the US, you
15:59
know, for this long. And so for
15:59
me, I was actually homesick. And
16:04
that's never happened to me
16:04
before, but never. So being away
16:09
from everyone and thinking, wow,
16:09
I don't really know anyone in
16:12
this country. I know, like two
16:12
people here. And I that for me
16:16
was a bit daunting. And also
16:16
just, there were some cultural
16:20
things like I feel like
16:20
Americans are much more Oh,
16:25
gosh, I don't want I don't want
16:25
to offend anyone when I say
16:27
this, but Americans are just
16:27
more friendly in general to
16:30
strangers.
16:30  Shaun B
I think this I think
16:30
that is something that has been
16:33
covered quite a bit on this
16:33
podcast is not the first so it
16:36
is fine.
16:38  Alicia
Americans are super
16:38
friendly. And just more talk it
16:43
is and more open. I think in the
16:43
beginning, even if they don't
16:47
know you. And that's one thing
16:47
that was hard for me was kind of
16:51
feeling like an outsider and you
16:51
know, people not really
16:54
interacting with me. Or if they
16:54
did, it maybe wasn't so
16:57
positive. And so that was hard
16:57
because you feel like an
17:00
outsider, you know? Yeah.
17:02  Shaun B
Yeah. It's it's a
17:02
common theme for people coming
17:05
to Germany. But you said that
17:05
you move past that after the
17:08
first few months. What was what
17:08
do you think it was that God was
17:12
something that got better in
17:12
you? Did you understand the
17:14
Germans better? What started
17:14
making things get a little
17:16
better?
17:17  Alicia
Yeah, that the I had to
17:17
do some learning, you know,
17:20
about what the things that are
17:20
just culturally acceptable here
17:26
and how things are run here. You
17:26
know, I think for me, it started
17:31
when I kind of started getting
17:31
more involved in school and with
17:34
other expats and kind of like
17:34
talking to them about their
17:37
experiences, and then also
17:37
becoming friends with more
17:41
German people, because then I
17:41
could kind of see and figure out
17:45
like, the social stuff, you
17:45
know, that maybe wouldn't have
17:49
known otherwise. So and I also
17:49
started getting involved in my
17:53
own hobbies, like music and
17:53
things that make me happy, I had
17:57
to realize, you know, that those
17:57
things would kind of get me
18:01
through. And I knew that some of
18:01
this would just take time, I
18:04
think it just takes time to
18:04
settle, like, let the dust
18:07
settle. When you first move
18:07
here, you're you're doing so
18:10
much to get settled. You have to
18:10
get a phone, you have to get a
18:13
bank account, you have to
18:13
there's like so many there's a
18:15
million things you have to do,
18:15
right? school stuff, paperwork,
18:18
immigration, it's like, you
18:18
don't ever your wheels are just
18:21
constantly turning. And it takes
18:21
a while for you to finally be
18:25
able to just exhale, when I
18:25
finally got my, my, um, my
18:31
residence permit, like, all with
18:31
all the visa stuff, that's when
18:34
I could finally like, take a
18:34
break. Because before it was
18:37
like, you know, I'm freaking
18:37
out, I'm freaking out about
18:40
getting my mail and making sure
18:40
I'm not missing appointments
18:43
and, you know, finding a place
18:43
to live. I mean, it's, it's a
18:47
lot. Yeah. And once you finally
18:47
get the dust once the dust
18:51
finally settles, then you can
18:51
say, Okay, let me kind of absorb
18:56
this moment. And, and, and
18:56
figure out my new environment
18:59
here. But it definitely took me
18:59
some time and also making
19:02
friends here. That was really
19:02
important. Yeah.
19:07  Shaun B
And how did you make
19:07
friends? Because you mentioned
19:08
that you started making friends
19:08
with some Germans, you had some
19:11
expat friends. How did you make
19:11
friends? Was it all university?
19:14
Or have you made friends in
19:14
other avenues? And I think
19:17
people would be interested to
19:17
know how.
19:20  Alicia
So in the beginning, it
19:20
was mostly university students,
19:23
because we're all kind of going
19:23
through this, you know,
19:25
experience together, we have
19:25
classes together. And that was
19:30
the easiest way to make friends.
19:30
And then I started kind of
19:36
branching out a little bit and
19:36
going off on my own. I would go
19:40
to protests, like whenever all
19:40
of the Black Lives Matter stuff
19:43
started happening, I, I would
19:43
just go to things on my own
19:47
really, but that's just I'm the
19:47
type of person who can do that.
19:51
Like, not everybody is
19:51
comfortable going places alone
19:55
and doing things alone. I know
19:55
that can be hard for some
19:58
people, but for me, it's not
19:58
like I don't Watching movies by
20:00
myself, I will go to a
20:00
restaurant by myself, I do not
20:03
mind.
20:05  Shaun B
It's a great experience
20:05
is one of the things that I
20:07
love. I used to go to the cinema
20:07
all the time on my own. Because
20:09
if you just go and see whatever
20:09
movie you want, you don't have
20:12
to talk about what you're gonna
20:12
eat beforehand, what are you
20:15
gonna watch, you just walk in
20:15
and watch whatever you do, and
20:17
it's a great experience. So I'm
20:17
a big advocate for doing things
20:20
on my on on your own as well, I
20:20
think is a good point.
20:23  Alicia
Yes, and so that's what
20:23
I did. And I, most of my, like,
20:28
musician friends that I have now
20:28
I've met in the last, let's say,
20:32
four months. And, um, and that
20:32
was because I went to an event
20:38
and I met a musician there. And
20:38
then and I did a show with her I
20:42
think background, and then I
20:42
ended up meeting all of these
20:45
people, um, musicians. And I
20:45
think that's been definitely
20:50
that's, that's given me a huge
20:50
inspiration, I think to be happy
20:55
here and to be working on like
20:55
music and everything. I think
20:59
it's really important to connect
20:59
with people who do the things
21:03
that you love to do as well as
21:03
an expat. If you're no matter
21:08
what you're into, there's always
21:08
going to be a group or somebody
21:11
else that's into that same
21:11
thing. And that you can really
21:14
make good genuine friends like
21:14
that by just, you know,
21:17
participating in activities that
21:17
that you love, because you're
21:20
going to meet like minded
21:20
people.
21:21  Shaun B
I love that. I love
21:21
that I had a guest who said
21:24
something similar in an early
21:24
episode of the podcast, he his
21:28
quote was very similar. He said,
21:28
just seek out the things that
21:31
you love. And the people there
21:31
will be the people you want to
21:34
hang out with, because the
21:34
interests and the passions are
21:37
common. So it's a great act of
21:37
advice.
21:40  Alicia
And that makes a huge
21:40
difference, I think. Because
21:43
you're doing what you love. And
21:43
then you're meeting people who
21:46
genuinely love those things,
21:46
too. And then, yeah, it's like
21:50
genuine friendship, as opposed
21:50
to it being kind of like,
21:52
forced, you know, I think the
21:52
university setting was good to
21:55
start. But it didn't necessarily
21:55
mean that that that all of these
21:59
people were people that I would
21:59
call up for brunch or something
22:02
on a Saturday.
22:04  Shaun B
Yeah. While while you
22:04
were talking, I also realize
22:07
because you said, You've been
22:07
here for a year. And then you
22:10
also mentioned, you know, some
22:10
of the things that happened with
22:12
Black Lives Matters. A lot has
22:12
happened in a year, you chose a
22:17
really eventful year, to move to
22:17
another country.
22:20  Alicia
I know. And, and you
22:20
know, what, I didn't know
22:24
sometimes I like, I asked
22:24
myself, like, How did this
22:26
happen? How did all How is all
22:26
of this happening? While I'm not
22:30
home, you know, it's, it's just
22:30
crazy. And I moved here in
22:34
September at the end of
22:34
September 2019. And so this year
22:38
has just been incredible. Like
22:38
I, I am just shocked at the
22:44
amount of history happening. And
22:44
I'm not home to see it. And so
22:48
sometimes it's it's like a
22:48
double edged sword like on one
22:51
hand, I'm, I'm grateful to not
22:51
have to deal with a lot of the
22:55
issues that I had to face in
22:55
America. And on the other hand,
22:58
I feel kind of guilty that I'm
22:58
not there, you know, being able
23:02
to participate and, and make
23:02
change. And so yeah, that that
23:07
was that's, that hasn't been
23:07
easy. And then to be also in a
23:10
country where you don't
23:10
necessarily have like the
23:13
community and the support around
23:13
you that you would have back
23:16
home. That's also hard, because
23:16
you see people going through
23:19
this. And I mean, I was on the
23:19
phone with my friends almost
23:22
every day, you know, when all of
23:22
these protests started just
23:26
asking questions, and you know,
23:26
how are you feeling? What's
23:30
going on there? What's
23:30
happening? Because I'm seeing
23:32
this from the different lens now
23:32
that I'm outside of the states?
23:39  Shaun B
How has it changed your
23:39
viewpoint?
23:42  Alicia
Well, on which topic
23:42
black lives matter? Yeah. Um, I
23:47
think for me, it made me kind of
23:47
realize how big of an impact the
23:52
US has on the world. I didn't
23:52
necessarily see that or
23:58
understand that when I was
23:58
living there. That people kind
24:02
of look to America for you know,
24:02
as a as an example for a lot of
24:07
things. And it's not a perfect
24:07
country. No country is perfect,
24:12
but we have a lot of work to do.
24:12
And some of the things that I
24:17
experienced in America I thought
24:17
were like normal. I realized
24:21
when I moved out of the states
24:21
like no this is not normal like
24:23
police brutality is not normal.
24:23
Like that's not something that
24:27
we should be accepting at all.
24:27
Um, even my interactions with
24:32
police here I my friends that
24:32
have all like lived here and
24:36
grown up here are very laid back
24:36
and have no you know, qualms
24:40
about the police. About for me,
24:40
you know, my experience has been
24:45
different. You know, if I see a
24:45
police officer or something I
24:48
might get I might tense up or I
24:48
might say, Hey, you guys, like
24:51
you know, there's a police
24:51
officer or whatever, even if
24:54
they're just coming to say we're
24:54
being too loud. You know,
24:56
musicians, musicians are always
24:56
making noise. They're coming to
25:00
say, oh, you're being too loud,
25:00
or whatever I am, you know, I'm
25:03
very, um, that makes me nervous
25:03
and it. But then I realize like
25:09
police aren't in the police here
25:09
are nice. Like, some of them are
25:12
really nice. And they show up
25:12
with a smile, and they're like,
25:14
Can you just turn it down? Or,
25:14
you know, they're so kind here
25:18
and I'm like, What is going on?
25:18
And it's not to say that all the
25:25
police back home are bad. It's
25:25
not that at all, like I have
25:28
friends that are police
25:28
officers, and work in law
25:30
enforcement, and they're good
25:30
people, but just the interaction
25:34
and the the stress of deal of
25:34
police interaction in America.
25:39
That's something that has
25:39
affected me. And even here, I
25:42
realized, like, okay, you don't
25:42
have to be scared, you don't
25:45
have to be worried. I've been
25:45
pulled over in my car before in
25:48
the states and, and had like,
25:48
really a really bad reaction to
25:53
that, because I was scared even
25:53
though I didn't do anything
25:55
wrong. Yeah, it's still scared
25:55
me because I thought, what if
25:59
I'm the next person, you know,
25:59
that's gonna be on the news
26:01
tomorrow, or, you know, or
26:01
whatever. So it's just, I had to
26:06
realize that, like, there's some
26:06
stuff that happens in the
26:08
States, that's just not okay.
26:08
And also, when I saw the effect
26:12
that the movement had on the
26:12
rest of the world, and how
26:15
people all over the world are
26:15
marching. That was that gave me
26:19
some sense of hope. You know,
26:22  Shaun B
yeah, it was amazing to
26:22
see the reaction here in Germany
26:24
as well, with all the the people
26:24
protest going out on the protest
26:27
marches. And all of that. And
26:27
you went to like you said, you
26:32
went to a few protests, but I
26:32
saw on your Facebook, I remember
26:35
seeing this actually, back in
26:35
June, I think it was, you're
26:39
based in Hanover, and I think it
26:39
was in Hanover, that you went to
26:42
this protest, and you gave a
26:42
speech in front of what I think
26:45
was 15,000 people, right? And it
26:45
was, it was a fiery speech, I'll
26:49
tell you, it gave me goosebumps
26:49
when I was watching. I was like,
26:52
oh, wow, that was really, really
26:52
inspirational was really moving
26:56
speech that you gave and also
26:56
put a link to that in the show
26:58
notes.
26:59  Alicia
I had to say something,
26:59
I think, for me, being away from
27:03
home at that time was really
27:03
difficult. And it's such a
27:08
historical time is such a
27:08
historical moment. And I felt
27:11
like I have to do something, I
27:11
have to say something. I can't
27:15
like let this go by without
27:15
speaking. And I just contacted
27:19
the organizers of the protest.
27:19
And I said, Hey, would you guys
27:22
mind if I, if I came and said a
27:22
few words? Yeah. And you know, I
27:28
wrote this speech the day
27:28
before. And I got up there. And
27:32
I saw how many people there
27:32
were. And it, it scared me.
27:38  Shaun B
15,000 is a lot.
27:39  Alicia
Yeah, that's a lot of
27:39
people. But I try to speak from
27:42
my heart and just speak on, you
27:42
know, things that so many of us
27:47
are feeling in this community.
27:47
And actually, a guy ended up
27:51
jumping on stage during my
27:51
speech.
27:56  Shaun B
What what that was, was
27:56
he a German, or?
27:59  Alicia
I think he was, I don't
27:59
know, he was speaking in German.
28:02
And I didn't understand anything
28:02
he was saying, but I think there
28:04
was something wrong with him
28:04
because, um, he was kind of
28:08
like, slurring his speech and
28:08
stuff. Like he could have, we
28:10
don't know what was wrong with
28:10
him. But in that moment, I felt
28:13
really unsafe, I thought, wow,
28:13
like, they don't even have
28:16
anyone, you know, keeping people
28:16
from jumping on the stage. And
28:19
like he could have, he could
28:19
have had a weapon like it could
28:21
have been a jump on the stage.
28:21
And then like a mob of people
28:25
hold like, took him off the
28:25
stage.
28:28  Shaun B
Oh, my God, that's
28:28
terrifying.
28:30  Alicia
Oh, it was absolutely
28:30
terrifying. And, but I continued
28:34
my speech. And when I got off of
28:34
this stage, I actually had to go
28:38
give a statement to the police.
28:38
Like, they pulled me aside and I
28:41
had to like, you know, write
28:41
stuff down and talk to them
28:44
about what happened. And the guy
28:44
they had him like, detained and
28:47
like in the back by the police
28:47
van and everything, and he
28:50
wouldn't even look at me. He was
28:50
like, I guess he was
28:52
embarrassed. I don't know. But
28:52
um, yeah, that was a really
28:55
weird moment.
28:59  Unknown
You and You barely, I
28:59
think you said straight off
29:01
there. When when obviously when
29:01
it was all over and he went
29:03
away, you said, are we gonna let
29:03
that stop us? You just you
29:07
didn't skip a beat. You just
29:07
went straight back into it.
29:10  Alicia
Oh, yeah. My mom raised
29:10
a fighter. That's me.
29:14  Shaun B
That is obvious. That
29:14
is very clear. You sit you said,
29:18
I think on the next day on
29:18
Facebook, you had another post
29:21
that said that it had that day
29:21
had changed you in so many ways.
29:25
I think it was that day you were
29:25
referring to how what what would
29:28
the changes that that they
29:28
brought for you?
29:31  Alicia
Um, I think I would say
29:31
that it made me realize like,
29:38
how many people are in support
29:38
of this movement and how many
29:42
people are in support of peace
29:42
and equality. And I think
29:47
sometimes we can be in a bubble.
29:47
And also, this was the first
29:50
time in that I'd been in Germany
29:50
that I'd seen so many black and
29:55
brown people. I'd never seen
29:55
that and since I moved here,
29:59
I've always felt Little bit
29:59
like, out of place and a little
30:03
bit like there's no like
30:03
community here. And because in
30:08
the States, especially like in
30:08
Houston, and in Louisiana, you
30:10
have really like large
30:10
communities of people of color,
30:14
and you never feel alone. You
30:14
know, it's it's kind of like,
30:19
there's always someone there,
30:19
and there's always communities.
30:23
And here, I never saw that I
30:23
literally never saw it, I would
30:27
see, like black and brown
30:27
people, one or two every now and
30:32
then, but there and see this
30:32
huge crowd of people, and not
30:35
just black and brown people, but
30:35
also white people all together.
30:40
I mean, that made me It gave me
30:40
a lot of hope. And it gave me a
30:44
sense of, of strength. And that
30:44
I wasn't by myself, I didn't
30:48
know anyone at that protest. And
30:48
I left that protest with three
30:52
or four people as friends that I
30:52
met, you know, and that I've
30:55
seen since then. And that was a
30:55
very important day. I mean, we
31:00
laughed at the protests, we
31:00
cried at the protest. It was a
31:03
very emotional day, where people
31:03
were just like, just pouring out
31:07
their emotions. And there were
31:07
so many speeches, and so many
31:10
people talking and, you know, I
31:10
got to hear about the black
31:15
experience in Germany. And
31:15
that's something that I never
31:19
heard. And I thought, wow, like,
31:19
this experience sounds very
31:22
similar to my experience in
31:22
America.
31:24  Shaun B
That's interesting,
31:24
because that's something that I
31:26
was wondering at that time, as
31:26
well, when when all of this was
31:28
going on. I it got me to
31:28
thinking What is the situation
31:31
in Germany? I mean, like you
31:31
were saying, maybe police
31:34
brutality isn't that much of a
31:34
problem, but maybe there's still
31:36
prejudices? What, what would you
31:36
think in Germany, the problems
31:40
are?
31:42  Alicia
I think police brutality
31:42
is is an issue here. Um, I've
31:47
seen a lot of stuff online and
31:47
have heard experiences from
31:52
people that I know who've been
31:52
beaten by police here. And
31:56
that's, I mean, it might not be
31:56
as much on the forefront like it
32:00
isn't America. In America right
32:00
now. This is like very
32:03
sensationalized, you know, so,
32:03
you know, any little bit of that
32:07
gets a lot of attention on in
32:07
the media and everything. And
32:10
here, I mean, Germany's a much
32:10
smaller country. So I feel like,
32:15
the issues are not amplified as
32:15
highly, there's definitely
32:19
systemic racism here. There's
32:19
definitely prejudices. Um, and I
32:24
think that people kind of looked
32:24
to what was going on in the
32:28
States, when all of this, the
32:28
movement started really, like
32:31
catching steam. I think that
32:31
people were inspired by that to
32:37
finally speak up and talk about
32:37
some of the things that they're
32:40
dealing with, because people
32:40
don't always speak up. They
32:43
don't. So I think that I think
32:43
that police brutality is an
32:47
issue. I think this systemic
32:47
racism is an issue. I think that
32:51
prejudice is an issue. I think
32:51
that um, there are issues here
32:56
with with, especially with
32:56
foreigners, I've heard a lot of
33:00
expat and refugees. I mean, an X
33:00
pattern refugee, I guess it's
33:04
the same thing. I don't know, we
33:04
could get into that too. Because
33:06
I've gotten I've people have
33:06
asked me, what's the difference?
33:09
And I'm like, I act To be
33:09
honest, I don't really know.
33:11
But, um, I think that there are
33:11
issues here too, with like
33:15
refugees, and people like having
33:15
to kind of assimilate into this
33:18
culture and be being treated
33:18
poorly because they're not doing
33:22
a good enough job. You know,
33:22
that's also an issue in America
33:26
as well. We, we we don't embrace
33:26
immigrants as much as we should.
33:31
Yeah.
33:33  Shaun B
Speaking of 2020 There
33:33
was also a small other matter
33:37
that happened this year in terms
33:37
of the Coronavirus How did that
33:40
affect your whole psychological
33:40
well being?
33:43  Alicia
Oh, my goodness, for a
33:43
year,
33:45  Shaun B
I mean, it's a lot.
33:47  Alicia
It's a lot this year has
33:47
been crazy. Um, I spent a lot of
33:54
time alone. And at first I
33:54
really enjoyed it. And because I
34:02
like being alone, but then after
34:02
a certain point in time, I
34:07
started to get really worried
34:07
about my family in America, I
34:11
knew that I was safe here. I
34:11
knew that Germany was taking
34:15
things very seriously. And that
34:15
my safety would not be
34:20
compromised. But I was very
34:20
worried about what was happening
34:24
in America because it just
34:24
seemed like nobody was taking it
34:28
seriously. And it starts with
34:28
leadership leadership was not
34:32
taking it seriously. Therefore
34:32
everyone else wasn't taking it
34:36
seriously. I just could not
34:36
believe what I was seeing. I'm
34:38
like, Do people really think
34:38
that this is a hoax or that this
34:41
is a joke? No. And and we were
34:41
in lockdown. I still had friends
34:46
going to parties and like
34:46
throwing parties and going out
34:50
and going to bars and clubs and
34:50
and I'm thinking to myself, do
34:53
you guys know what's going on in
34:53
the world? Yeah, you guys
34:58
understand that the world is in
34:58
lockdown right now. And you guys
35:01
are still partying it up like
35:01
the Fourth of July like there's
35:04
no problem.
35:05  Shaun B
Yeah, spring break.
35:08  Alicia
Oh, yeah. And Florida
35:08
everyone has on the beach. Oh my
35:11
gosh, it was insane. It was
35:11
insane to watch. And I thought
35:16
this is how people see us. I
35:16
really could not believe that
35:20
people had no clue what was
35:20
going on. And even the lack of
35:24
correct information, not
35:24
believing in the science, not
35:28
believing in what all of these
35:28
leaders are telling you. I mean,
35:32
I could not believe that the
35:32
President, the President of the
35:37
United States of America refused
35:37
to acknowledge the impact and
35:42
the severity of this pandemic.
35:42
Yeah, I just, I couldn't believe
35:47
it. I still can't I still
35:52  Shaun B
think that is some of
35:52
what you described as a lot of
35:54
what a lot of Americans that
35:54
I've spoken to feel as well that
35:56
they feel a combination of
35:56
feeling safe here in Germany, or
36:00
safer here in Germany, but also
36:00
worrying about families and just
36:05
a sense of horror of what's
36:05
happening in general.
36:09  Alicia
Yeah, it's crazy.
36:10  Shaun B
It's been, it's been
36:10
quite a year. And let's hope
36:12
2021 is nice and boring. That's
36:12
all yeah. Oh,
36:15  Alicia
yeah. I've had, I've had
36:15
enough action for the next 10
36:18
years.
36:21  Shaun B
So I want to move on to
36:21
your music now. Okay. And talk
36:26
about the music that you're
36:26
making in Germany. So you are
36:30
you did you must have done a lot
36:30
of performing performances and
36:33
so on in in the United States
36:33
before you left, right.
36:35  Alicia
Yeah. So before I before
36:35
I moved here, I was working on
36:39
music as well. But I did have
36:39
about probably like a two, two
36:45
and a half year period where I
36:45
wasn't so much focused on music,
36:48
I was just working. And I
36:48
couldn't really focus on music
36:52
because I was working nine to
36:52
five daily. And so that kind of
36:56
makes it hard to pursue the
36:56
music stuff. And I didn't
37:00
release a single back home.
37:00
Yeah, but then after that, I
37:03
took a bit of a hiatus, you
37:03
know, but since I moved here and
37:07
started getting involved, it
37:07
just inspired me to get
37:11
everything. Get the ball rolling
37:11
again, basically, yeah.
37:15  Shaun B
So you do as we said at
37:15
the beginning, you do soul and
37:18
blues? And do you do originals?
37:18
Is that you write your own
37:23
songs.
37:24  Alicia
Yes. So I write my own
37:24
songs. But I also do covers. So
37:28
whenever we have a set, you
37:28
know, at a venue on stage, we
37:32
usually play like an hour to an
37:32
hour and a half. And it's a
37:35
mixture of covers and originals.
37:35
But I do write my own music as
37:40
well.
37:41  Shaun B
Have you been writing
37:41
this year?
37:43  Alicia
Yes, I have been writing
37:43
this year.
37:45  Shaun B
I'm looking forward to
37:45
hearing those songs. Because
37:48
there's gonna be a lot of
37:48
interesting experiences and
37:52
insights coming into those
37:52
songs.
37:54  Alicia
Oh, absolutely.
37:54
Absolutely. Because how could
37:57
you not write about this year,
37:57
it's like, this is the year to
38:00
write and I you know, what,
38:00
actually, a lot of people, a lot
38:03
of musicians, I know, I have
38:03
been so creative this year,
38:07
writing and getting in the
38:07
studio and doing all of that
38:10
because there's there was
38:10
literally nothing else to do,
38:13
you know, um, especially that
38:13
part of the year with, we're
38:18
Corona kind of like took hold. I
38:18
think a lot of people because
38:21
everything was canceled, like
38:21
I've had shows get canceled or
38:25
postponed. And so people are
38:25
really kind of feeling the burn
38:30
from that. And I think the best
38:30
way to stay busy is to stay
38:34
creative.
38:35  Shaun B
I think we're going to
38:35
hear a lot of amazing art, and
38:38
not just music, but all kinds of
38:38
art, visual movies, books, I
38:43
think there's a lot of stories
38:43
that are going to come out of
38:45
this this period, which is at
38:45
least one really positive thing.
38:48
Like that's, that's where the
38:48
best art comes from. Right? The
38:51
darkness.
38:52  Alicia
Yes. I always say that I
38:52
can't write songs unless I'm
38:55
sad. Like, even my happy songs I
38:55
wrote when I was sad. So like I
39:03
have to be in that state of mind
39:03
in order to in order to write
39:07
because, you know, the best
39:07
stuff comes from when you're
39:10
actually inspired by what's
39:10
going on in your life.
39:13  Shaun B
Yeah, and I see that I
39:13
saw some videos of you
39:15
performing and you've got a band
39:15
that you were performing with.
39:19
Those are all people that you
39:19
met here in Germany and formed a
39:23
band. That's amazing.
39:24  Alicia
Yes, all of them are
39:24
musicians here. The music scene
39:28
in Hanover is really good. Read
39:28
are some Yes, yes, there are
39:34
some great musicians and and I'm
39:34
like, What are you guys doing?
39:37
Like Where have you been hiding?
39:37
Where have you been hiding?
39:42
Because my and my experience
39:42
here playing with musicians, has
39:46
been unlike anything I've ever
39:46
experienced. Even back home. I
39:50
didn't really Yes, I didn't get
39:50
really the support. Back home. I
39:55
didn't get like the loyalty that
39:55
I have here. And there's just
39:59
something about I don't know if
39:59
it's just like, in Germany,
40:03
people are just really super
40:03
loyal and helpful and, you know,
40:09
supportive back home, it's
40:09
people are a bit more
40:13
competitive in the music
40:13
business. And a lot of people
40:18
and it's not to say I haven't
40:18
had good experiences back home I
40:20
have I've had good experiences.
40:20
But I just find that here,
40:25
people are more supportive,
40:25
other musicians are more
40:28
supportive with you. Even if
40:28
they've got their own projects,
40:31
some of the people that I work
40:31
with have their own projects,
40:34
you know, their artists
40:34
themselves, or their three other
40:36
bands. You know, when people
40:36
really believe in you here, they
40:40
stick with you, they support
40:40
you, and I really appreciate
40:43
that.
40:44  Shaun B
Okay, how do you
40:44
communicate? Are they
40:46
communicating with you in
40:46
English? Or are you switching to
40:49
German to communicate with your
40:49
band? What, what does that
40:51
communication look like?
40:52  Alicia
I speak with them in
40:52
English. But they all have them
40:58
95% of the time are speaking in
40:58
English. But sometimes when
41:02
they're talking to each other,
41:02
they're speaking in German. And
41:05
I'm totally fine with that. And
41:05
I encourage that actually,
41:08
because it helps me to listen.
41:08
And it helps me to learn. And
41:11
also I'm learning like music
41:11
terminology, I'm hearing them,
41:15
you know, use vocabulary and
41:15
stuff that I wouldn't hear in
41:17
any other setting. So I do
41:17
appreciate that. But when they
41:21
talk with me, most of the time,
41:21
it's in English. And then
41:23
sometimes they do talk to me in
41:23
German, and I understand enough
41:27
to be able to say, Okay, I can't
41:27
always communicate back with
41:32
them. But, um, yeah, I
41:32
understand. I think more than I
41:36
can speak, which is one of my,
41:36
one of the things that I have to
41:40
work on. Yeah, but they, yeah,
41:40
they mostly speak English with
41:43
me, everyone is pretty, you
41:43
know, flexible with that. And
41:47
they like speaking English,
41:47
that's one thing that I don't
41:50
get often is that sometimes
41:50
people find out that you're from
41:54
the States, and they want to
41:54
talk to you in English, like,
41:56
they don't want to talk German
41:56
with you. They want to hear your
41:58
accent they want they want to
41:58
talk with you in English. And,
42:01
and that's that can be good and
42:01
bad. But I think that also is
42:04
kind of like enabling, enabling
42:04
My, my, my bad habit of not, you
42:11
know, focusing on learning and
42:11
speaking German. And one of my
42:14
band members speaks French too.
42:14
So I speak French fluently. And
42:18
sometimes we talk in French. So
42:18
at any given time, you might
42:22
hear three languages.
42:26  Shaun B
You said you speak
42:26
three other languages. I think
42:29
it was three other languages. So
42:29
French is one of them.
42:32  Alicia
Yeah. So my total I
42:32
speak a total of three. So
42:35
English, French and lingala,
42:35
which is a language from the
42:39
Democratic Republic of Congo.
42:39
Oh, yeah. So I'm a first
42:43
generation American. I was born
42:43
in the States. But my parents
42:47
are Congolese. Okay. Yeah, I
42:47
grew up speaking French and
42:51
lingala with them. And English
42:51
because we were in America. But
42:56
yeah, that's why I speak those
42:56
other languages.
42:58  Shaun B
So your parents
42:58
understood as well, the life of
43:02
an immigrant, I guess, then.
43:04  Alicia
Exactly. Exactly. And
43:04
now I have a different kind of
43:08
appreciation. Because I, you
43:08
know, I think to myself,
43:12
sometimes when people ask me,
43:12
why did you leave? Like, why did
43:16
you come from America? Why did
43:16
you go to Germany? I think, man,
43:20
how did my parents feel like How
43:20
did my my mom feel and like to
43:24
move across the ocean, you know,
43:24
to America, where she didn't
43:28
really speak English. And now
43:28
she's more American than all of
43:31
us.
43:33  Shaun B
And that's integrating
43:33
people.
43:35  Alicia
Yeah. So yeah, it
43:35
definitely has given me a
43:38
different perspective on what it
43:38
takes to be able to move and,
43:43
you know, go to a new place and
43:43
start over essentially, it's not
43:49
easy.
43:50  Shaun B
But very exciting. Like
43:50
you've got a an EP coming out.
43:53  Alicia
Yes. So yes, we start
43:53
recording, we record everything
43:57
next week. Basically, it's five
43:57
songs. And they're all arranged
44:02
and ready to go. And so I start
44:02
with the band next week, and
44:05
then I come in and do vocals
44:05
later. I'm really excited about
44:10
that. And these are songs that I
44:10
wrote probably three or four
44:13
years ago, so they're, you know,
44:13
ready to be recorded. Yeah,
44:18
yeah. I'm, I'm really excited.
44:18
And they're kind of from a
44:23
different time in my life, like
44:23
when I wasn't even living here.
44:27
But it just feels right to
44:27
record the songs here and with
44:30
this band, because they've just
44:30
we've performed some of them
44:34
live actually some of the songs
44:34
but um, yeah, I just felt like
44:39
now is a good time to get in the
44:39
studio and record and and get it
44:43
done. So the hope is that I can
44:43
get it out in January, but it
44:49
will probably be February.
44:53  Shaun B
Okay, Alicia to wrap
44:53
up. What What is the one bit of
44:56
advice you would give to to new
44:56
foreigners coming to Japan? Many
45:00
too, to help them get through
45:00
the difficult times in the
45:02
beginning,
45:03  Alicia
I would tell them to be
45:03
patient, and find ways to stay
45:10
connected to home. Because
45:10
oftentimes, that's what gives us
45:17
the strength to keep going. So
45:17
if that means you know, talking
45:20
with a friend from home once a
45:20
week, then do that, if that
45:24
means, you know, watching, like
45:24
your favorite show from home or
45:28
cooking meals from home, I know
45:28
for me that was important to
45:32
eat, like, home cooked meals of,
45:32
you know, very American food.
45:39  Shaun B
That is not easy to do
45:39
here.
45:40  Alicia
It's not I'm like
45:40
thinking about Thanksgiving and
45:43
Christmas and how I'm gonna put
45:43
together you know, my green bean
45:46
casserole. I'm literally I think
45:46
my mom is gonna send me a box
45:53
with some, you know, some
45:53
cooking supplies, because some
45:57
things are missing. But yeah,
45:57
find ways to stay connected to
46:00
home and just be patient. Like
46:00
embrace your your new life, your
46:03
new space, but you have to find
46:03
ways to stay happy and stay
46:09
inspired. And that way you won't
46:09
feel so alone. You don't have to
46:15
just because you move to a new
46:15
country doesn't mean you have to
46:17
completely strip yourself of
46:17
your identity. You know, you can
46:20
still be you you can still, you
46:20
can still be involved with home
46:25
to a certain degree. So that's
46:25
what I would say.
46:28  Shaun B
Yeah. Great advice.
46:28
Great advice. Alicia, thank you
46:31
so much for coming on the
46:31
podcast and taking your time.
46:33
It's been so much fun to talk to
46:33
you and you're insanely talented
46:37
and very, you got a lot of very
46:37
interesting points of view. So I
46:40
appreciate you coming on and
46:40
sharing them.
46:42  Alicia
Thank you so much. Thank
46:42
you for having me. It was really
46:44
awesome to be here.
46:46  Shaun B
All right. That's it
46:46
for this week. Music In this
46:48
episode by my band 10 Cent Janes
46:48
and additional music by Ryan
46:51
Anderson, "until the end". Thank
46:51
you for listening. Don't forget
46:55
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46:55
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46:58
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