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episode 13: Terror from the Woods [transcript]


We like to think we can protect ourselves and those we love from danger. But what happens when we can't? Tonight we'll tell the story of one family left defenseless against otherworldly predators.

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Paranormal Witness

Season 3, Episode 9 

https://www.syfy.com/paranormal-witness/episodes/season/3/episode/9/the-wolf-pack

Dogman Encounters

https://dogmanencounters.com/maine-encounters/

Dogman Monsters Are Real/ FaceBook Group -  Dogman Mystery

Wolf Pack - Shelley Rockwell-Martin Separates Fact From Fiction

http://dogman-monsters-are-real.blogspot.com/2013/08/wolf-pack-shelley-rockwell-martin.html

National UFO Reporting Center

http://www.nuforc.org/

Real Wolfmen: True Encounters in Modern America by Linda S. Godfrey (2012)

https://www.amazon.com/Real-Wolfmen-Encounters-Modern-America/dp/1585429082


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 2020-12-30  37m
 
 
00:00  Speaker 1
We
00:00
like
00:00
to
00:00
think
00:01
that
00:01
we
00:01
can
00:01
protect
00:01
ourselves
00:02
and
00:02
those
00:02
we
00:02
love
00:03
from
00:03
danger,
00:03
but
00:04
what
00:04
happens
00:04
when
00:04
we
00:04
can't?
00:05
So
00:05
tonight
00:06
we'll
00:06
tell
00:06
the
00:06
story
00:06
of
00:06
one
00:06
family
00:07
left
00:08
defenseless
00:09
against
00:09
other
00:09
worldly
00:10
predators.
00:17  Speaker 2
Jen,
00:17
how
00:17
are
00:17
you?
00:17
My
00:17
friend,
00:18
Hey,
00:18
I'm
00:19
doing
00:19
well,
00:19
my
00:19
friend,
00:19  Speaker 1
And
00:20
it's
00:20
good
00:20
to
00:20
be
00:20
on
00:21
tonight.
00:22
It
00:22
is.
00:22
I've
00:22
been
00:22
looking
00:23
forward
00:23
to
00:23
it
00:23
all
00:23
week.
00:24
It's
00:24
a
00:24
great
00:24
way
00:24
to
00:24
unwind.
00:25
Definitely
00:26
it's
00:26
even
00:27
better
00:27
than
00:27
the
00:27
weekends.
00:27
I
00:28
think.
00:28
Absolutely.
00:29
I
00:29
mean,
00:29
I
00:29
look
00:29
forward
00:30
to
00:30
the
00:30
entire
00:30
thing,
00:31
but
00:31
I
00:31
also
00:31
look
00:32
forward
00:32
to
00:32
the
00:32
cocktail
00:33
that
00:33
we
00:33
share
00:34
because
00:34
it's
00:34
kind
00:35
of
00:35
like
00:35
nice
00:35
together
00:36
time
00:36
and
00:36
we
00:36
get
00:36
to
00:36
learn
00:37
new
00:37
information
00:38
and
00:38
share
00:38
a
00:38
drink
00:39
and
00:39
connect
00:40
with
00:40
all
00:40
of
00:40
our
00:40
listeners.
00:41
And
00:41
that's,
00:41
that's
00:42
exciting.
00:43
And
00:43
speaking
00:43
of
00:43
listeners,
00:44
that's
00:44
a
00:45
good
00:45
segue,
00:45
Jen.
00:45
We
00:46
didn't
00:46
even
00:46
plan
00:46
that.
00:47
I
00:47
don't
00:48
really
00:48
plan
00:48
anything.
00:49
It's
00:49
really
00:50
much
00:50
organic
00:51
as
00:51
you
00:51
can
00:51
tell
00:52
kind
00:52
of
00:52
like
00:52
our
00:52
lives.
00:53
Yes.
00:54
Yeah
00:54
.
00:54
Speaking
00:54
of
00:55
our
00:55
listeners,
00:55
we
00:55
do
00:56
want
00:56
to
00:56
give
00:56
a
00:56
shout
00:57
out
00:57
to
00:57
some
00:58
people
00:58
who
00:58
have
00:58
been
00:58
actually
00:59
pretty
00:59
faithful
01:00
listeners.
01:00
We,
01:00
you
01:01
don't
01:01
know
01:01
how
01:01
much
01:01
we
01:01
appreciate
01:02
you
01:02
because
01:02
I
01:03
mean,
01:03
we
01:03
would
01:03
do
01:03
this
01:03
anyway
01:04
because
01:04
we're
01:04
having
01:04
a
01:04
good
01:05
time
01:05
and
01:06
we're
01:06
,
01:06
we're
01:06
learning
01:06
a
01:06
lot
01:06
and
01:06
enjoying
01:07
ourselves,
01:07
but
01:08
it
01:08
means
01:08
so
01:08
much
01:08
to
01:08
us
01:09
that
01:09
some
01:09
of
01:09
you
01:09
are
01:09
tuning
01:10
in
01:10
to
01:10
listen
01:11
and
01:12
that
01:12
you're
01:12
tuning
01:12
in
01:12
more
01:13
than
01:13
a
01:13
couple
01:13
of
01:13
times.
01:14
So
01:14
first
01:15
off
01:15
I
01:15
want
01:15
to
01:15
thank
01:16
our
01:16
listeners
01:16
in
01:16
Clichy
01:17
on
01:17
the
01:17
yield
01:17
of
01:18
false
01:18
,
01:18
which
01:18
I
01:18
believe
01:19
is
01:19
near
01:20
par
01:20
,
01:21
uh,
01:23
uh
01:23
,
01:23
new
01:24
,
01:25
uh,
01:25
equity.
01:26
I
01:26
probably
01:27
really
01:27
grappled
01:27
that,
01:28
but
01:28
forgive
01:28
me.
01:29
I
01:29
did
01:29
my
01:29
best.
01:30
We
01:30
also
01:30
want
01:31
to
01:31
thank
01:31
our
01:31
friends
01:31
in
01:31
Lake
01:32
Stevens,
01:32
Washington
01:33
in
01:33
Stanford,
01:34
Connecticut.
01:35
I
01:35
wonder
01:35
if
01:35
Stanford
01:35
is
01:36
my
01:36
brother-in-law.
01:37
He
01:37
might
01:37
be
01:39
Morgantown,
01:40
Morgantown,
01:41
West
01:42
Virginia,
01:42
which
01:42
is
01:42
maybe
01:43
our
01:43
friend
01:43
Colby
01:44
,
01:44
um,
01:44
who
01:44
we
01:44
are
01:44
hoping
01:45
Colby.
01:46
Yay
01:46
.
01:46
Colby.
01:46
We're
01:47
hoping
01:47
to
01:47
have
01:47
you
01:47
on
01:47
the
01:47
show
01:48
in
01:48
the
01:48
new
01:48
year.
01:49
And
01:49
I
01:49
just
01:49
have
01:49
to
01:49
say
01:49
about
01:50
Colby
01:50
too
01:50
.
01:50
I
01:51
follow
01:51
him
01:51
on
01:51
Facebook
01:51
and
01:52
he
01:52
is
01:52
like
01:52
amazing
01:53
at
01:53
thrifting
01:53
and
01:53
finding
01:54
like
01:54
the
01:54
coolest
01:55
stuff.
01:56
Um,
01:56
when
01:56
he's
01:56
thrifting,
01:56
which
01:56
is
01:57
an
01:57
interest
01:57
of
01:58
mine
01:58
as
01:58
well.
01:58
So
01:58
I'm
01:58
like
01:58
always
01:59
amazed.
02:00
Um,
02:00
we
02:00
also
02:00
have
02:00
somebody
02:01
from
02:01
Frazier's
02:01
bottom,
02:02
West
02:03
Virginia,
02:03
which
02:03
is
02:03
not
02:04
too
02:04
far
02:04
from
02:04
Huntington
02:05
where
02:05
I
02:05
grew
02:05
up.
02:05
So
02:05
I'm
02:06
really
02:06
curious
02:06
who
02:06
that
02:07
is.
02:07
I
02:07
love
02:08
my
02:08
love,
02:08
my
02:08
fellow
02:09
West
02:09
Virginians.
02:10
Um,
02:10
we
02:10
have
02:10
rural
02:11
Ridge,
02:11
Pennsylvania,
02:12
and
02:13
we
02:13
have
02:13
,
02:14
uh,
02:14
South
02:14
salt
02:14
Lake,
02:15
Utah,
02:15
just
02:16
a
02:16
little
02:16
,
02:17
um,
02:17
thing.
02:17
My
02:17
,
02:17
my
02:17
husband
02:18
was
02:18
a
02:18
Vista
02:18
and
02:19
he
02:19
was
02:19
in
02:20
salt
02:20
Lake
02:20
for,
02:21
I
02:21
think
02:21
about
02:21
a
02:21
year
02:22
when
02:22
he
02:22
was
02:22
like,
02:23
I
02:23
don't
02:23
know,
02:23
22
02:23
or
02:23
23.
02:24
Apparently
02:24
he
02:25
smoked
02:25
a
02:25
lot
02:25
of
02:25
pot
02:25
there.
02:26
So
02:27
it
02:27
was
02:27
like
02:27
the
02:27
one
02:28
time
02:28
in
02:28
his
02:28
life.
02:30
And
02:30
I
02:30
would
02:30
like
02:30
to
02:30
give
02:31
a
02:31
shout
02:31
out
02:31
to
02:31
some
02:31
of
02:31
our
02:31
other
02:32
listeners.
02:33
Um,
02:33
we
02:33
have
02:33
a
02:33
listener
02:34
from
02:34
Sanger,
02:34
Texas,
02:35
Chesapeake,
02:36
Virginia,
02:37
Highland
02:37
Springs,
02:37
Virginia
02:38
Tuckahoe,
02:39
Virginia,
02:39
Washington,
02:40
Virginia
02:40
area
02:41
Lake
02:41
shore,
02:42
Maryland,
02:42
Knoxville,
02:43
Tennessee,
02:44
and
02:44
Tacoma,
02:44
Washington.
02:45
Thank
02:46
you.
02:46
That
02:46
is
02:46
amazing.
02:47
It's
02:47
exciting
02:47
to
02:48
think
02:48
about
02:48
people
02:48
listening
02:49
all
02:49
over.
02:49
I
02:49
love
02:50
it.
02:50
So
02:50
welcome.
02:51
We're
02:51
so
02:51
glad
02:51
you're
02:51
with
02:52
us
02:52
on
02:52
this
02:52
crazy
02:52
journey.
02:53
So
02:53
what
02:54
are
02:54
you
02:54
having
02:54
to
02:54
drink
02:55
tonight?
02:55
My
02:55
friend,
02:56
well
02:56
,
02:56
I
02:56
feel
02:56
like
02:56
that's
02:56
a
02:56
really,
02:58
I
02:58
feel
02:58
like
02:58
that's
02:58
a
02:58
really
02:59
important
02:59
question
02:59
tonight
03:00
because
03:00
I've
03:00
already
03:00
had
03:01
one.
03:01
I've
03:01
had
03:01
one
03:02
of
03:02
what
03:02
I'm
03:02
drinking
03:02
already.
03:03
I
03:03
don't
03:03
usually
03:04
have
03:04
more
03:04
than
03:04
one
03:04
drink
03:05
during
03:05
the
03:05
week
03:06
nights
03:06
and
03:06
I
03:06
don't
03:06
drink
03:06
every
03:07
night.
03:07
I
03:07
just
03:08
don't
03:08
want
03:08
people
03:08
to
03:08
think
03:08
that
03:09
you
03:09
kind
03:09
of
03:09
do.
03:09
I
03:09
do
03:10
not,
03:11
but
03:11
that
03:11
is
03:12
neither
03:12
here
03:12
nor
03:12
there.
03:12
What
03:13
is
03:13
here
03:13
is
03:14
the
03:14
fact
03:14
that
03:14
I
03:14
have
03:14
this
03:14
lovely.
03:15
I
03:15
have
03:16
this
03:16
lovely
03:16
drink
03:16
in
03:16
front
03:17
of
03:17
me.
03:17
And
03:18
it
03:18
is
03:18
a
03:18
cosmopolitan,
03:19
which
03:19
I
03:20
have
03:20
never
03:20
made,
03:21
but
03:21
it's
03:21
one
03:21
of
03:21
my
03:21
favorite
03:22
drinks
03:22
to
03:22
order.
03:23
It's
03:23
kind
03:23
of
03:23
a
03:23
girly
03:23
drink,
03:24
but
03:24
I
03:24
love
03:24
it.
03:24
Can
03:24
you
03:25
hold
03:25
it
03:25
up
03:25
so
03:25
I
03:25
can
03:25
see
03:25
it?
03:26
Yeah.
03:26
And
03:26
he's
03:27
in
03:27
a
03:27
new
03:27
service
03:27
now,
03:27
so
03:28
we
03:28
can
03:28
see
03:28
each
03:28
other.
03:29
So
03:29
that
03:29
means
03:29
I
03:29
have
03:29
to
03:29
put
03:30
makeup
03:30
on
03:31
because
03:31
I
03:31
don't
03:32
wanna
03:32
,
03:32
I
03:32
don't
03:32
wanna
03:32
look
03:32
like
03:32
a
03:33
,
03:33
she
03:33
doesn't
03:33
want
03:33
her
03:33
to
03:34
get
03:34
fast
03:34
lunch
03:34
.
03:35
I
03:35
know.
03:35
I
03:35
don't
03:36
want
03:36
to
03:36
look
03:36
like
03:36
a
03:36
Sasquatch.
03:37
It's
03:37
not
03:37
even
03:37
so
03:37
much
03:38
that
03:38
I
03:38
don't
03:38
want
03:38
you
03:38
to
03:38
see
03:38
me.
03:39
I
03:39
don't
03:39
want
03:39
to
03:39
see
03:39
myself.
03:40
I
03:40
think
03:41
it's
03:41
more
03:41
about
03:41
that.
03:42
It's
03:42
like,
03:43
am
03:43
I
03:43
really
03:43
that
03:43
ugly?
03:46
I
03:46
think
03:46
everybody
03:46
feels
03:46
that
03:47
way
03:47
about
03:47
themselves
03:47
online.
03:48
Can
03:48
you
03:48
see
03:48
it?
03:49
I
03:49
can
03:49
see
03:49
it.
03:50
So
03:50
it
03:50
should
03:51
be
03:51
Pinker.
03:51
But
03:51
,
03:52
um,
03:52
so
03:52
I'll
03:52
tell
03:52
you
03:53
what's
03:53
in
03:53
it.
03:53
It's
03:54
vodka
03:55
and
03:55
it
03:55
is
03:56
Quantro
03:56
which
03:57
I
03:57
have
03:57
to
03:57
tell
03:57
you
03:57
that
03:57
stuff
03:58
ain't
03:58
cheap.
03:59
Cause
03:59
I
03:59
went
03:59
to
03:59
the
03:59
liquor
03:59
store
03:59
to
03:59
get
04:00
some,
04:00
but
04:00
boy
04:01
it
04:01
smells
04:01
so
04:02
delightful
04:02
and
04:03
it
04:03
has
04:04
fresh
04:04
squeezed
04:04
lime
04:05
juice
04:05
and
04:06
then
04:06
cranberry
04:07
juice.
04:07
But
04:07
I
04:07
used
04:08
a
04:08
pink,
04:08
cranberry
04:09
juice
04:09
and
04:09
mine
04:09
is
04:09
like
04:09
super
04:10
light.
04:10
So
04:10
it's
04:10
like
04:10
a
04:11
very
04:11
pale
04:11
pale
04:12
pink.
04:12
So
04:12
yeah,
04:13
it's
04:13
delicious.
04:14
It's
04:14
really
04:14
good.
04:14
And
04:14
as
04:14
kind
04:15
of
04:15
boozy,
04:15
can
04:16
you
04:16
see
04:16
what
04:16
I'm
04:16
holding
04:16
up
04:16
here?
04:17
I'm
04:17
gonna
04:17
,
04:17
I
04:17
need
04:17
to
04:18
minimize
04:18
my
04:18
notes.
04:19
Let
04:19
me
04:19
just
04:19
go
04:20
back
04:20
to
04:20
here.
04:21
Yeah
04:21
.
04:21
Oh,
04:22
it's
04:22
in
04:22
your
04:22
fancy,
04:23
it's
04:23
in
04:23
your
04:23
fancy
04:24
hurricane
04:24
glass.
04:24
What
04:25
is
04:25
that?
04:26
I
04:26
put
04:26
most
04:26
drinks
04:27
in
04:27
my
04:27
hurricane
04:28
glass
04:28
because
04:28
I
04:29
can
04:29
double
04:29
up
04:29
anything
04:30
else
04:30
I
04:30
would
04:30
have
04:30
to.
04:31
That's
04:31
a
04:31
good
04:31
idea
04:32
to
04:32
make
04:32
another
04:32
drink.
04:33
So
04:34
I'm
04:34
having
04:34
to
04:34
do
04:34
over,
04:35
do
04:35
over.
04:36
Yeah.
04:36
I'm
04:36
having
04:36
to
04:36
do
04:36
over
04:37
of
04:37
my,
04:37
my
04:38
Thai
04:38
disaster.
04:38
Gosh,
04:39
let
04:39
me
04:39
hold
04:39
that
04:40
thing
04:40
up
04:40
again.
04:40
I
04:40
need
04:40
to
04:41
see
04:41
it.
04:41
Okay.
04:42
It
04:42
looks
04:42
good.
04:42
And
04:43
that's
04:43
what
04:43
a
04:43
,
04:43
my
04:43
tie
04:43
should
04:44
look
04:44
like.
04:45
Yes.
04:45
And
04:45
it's
04:45
not
04:46
separating
04:46
either
04:46
.
04:46
So
04:47
it's
04:47
absolutely
04:48
delicious
04:48
and
04:49
it
04:49
has
04:50
run
04:51
two
04:51
different
04:51
types
04:51
of
04:52
rum
04:52
,
04:52
clear
04:52
rum,
04:52
coconut
04:53
rum,
04:54
grenadine
04:54
syrup,
04:55
pineapple
04:55
juice,
04:56
orange
04:56
juice
04:57
and
04:57
ice.
04:58
And
04:58
it's
04:59
amazing.
04:59
I
05:00
love
05:00
a
05:00
good
05:00
Mai
05:01
Tai
05:01
.
05:01
I
05:01
usually
05:02
get
05:02
a
05:02
Mai
05:02
Tai
05:02
at
05:03
the
05:03
Thai
05:03
restaurant
05:03
near
05:03
here.
05:04
They
05:04
have,
05:04
they
05:04
have
05:05
really
05:05
good
05:05
ones.
05:05
I've
05:05
never
05:06
made
05:06
one.
05:06
It
05:06
just
05:06
seems
05:07
so
05:07
ambitious
05:07
to
05:07
make
05:08
one.
05:08
I'm
05:08
almost
05:09
halfway
05:09
through
05:09
it.
05:10
I
05:10
forgot
05:10
to
05:10
eat
05:11
dinner
05:11
tonight.
05:11
I'm
05:11
just
05:11
gonna
05:11
have
05:12
some
05:12
crackers
05:13
Lord
05:14
Jen
05:14
.
05:14
So
05:14
I'll
05:14
do
05:15
my
05:15
best
05:16
to
05:16
stay
05:16
on
05:16
task
05:16
tonight.
05:18
So
05:19
tonight,
05:20
tonight,
05:21
I'm
05:21
going
05:21
to
05:21
talk
05:21
about,
05:22
I
05:22
don't
05:22
even
05:22
know
05:22
if
05:22
I
05:22
told
05:23
you
05:23
what
05:23
I
05:23
was
05:23
going
05:23
to
05:23
talk
05:23
about
05:24
tonight.
05:25
I
05:25
don't
05:25
think
05:25
you
05:25
did
05:25
tell
05:26
me
05:26
you
05:26
told
05:26
me
05:26
like
05:27
something,
05:27
but
05:27
Jen
05:27
,
05:27
I
05:28
forgot.
05:28
I'm
05:28
sorry.
05:29
I'm
05:29
just
05:29
going
05:29
to
05:29
be
05:29
honest.
05:30
Fine.
05:31
It's
05:31
fine.
05:33
So
05:34
I've
05:34
been
05:34
watching,
05:35
I've
05:35
been
05:35
watching
05:36
that
05:36
series,
05:36
paranormal
05:37
witness,
05:38
you
05:38
know,
05:38
some
05:38
of
05:39
them
05:39
are
05:39
really
05:39
well
05:39
done.
05:40
So
05:40
I've
05:40
watched
05:41
several
05:41
of
05:41
those
05:41
and
05:42
just
05:42
looking
05:42
at
05:42
the
05:42
ones
05:43
that
05:43
kinda
05:43
,
05:43
I
05:43
thought
05:43
would
05:44
stand
05:44
out
05:44
to
05:44
me
05:45
and
05:45
I'm
05:45
wanting
05:45
to
05:45
cover
05:46
one
05:46
because
05:46
it's
05:47
truly
05:48
one
05:48
of
05:48
the
05:48
creepiest
05:49
stories
05:49
that
05:50
I've
05:50
heard
05:51
involving.
05:51
Cryptids
05:53
hilarious
05:53
,
05:53
scary,
05:53
other
05:53
than
05:54
Bigfoot
05:54
and
05:55
bigfoots
05:55
,
05:55
just
05:56
really
05:56
a
05:57
of
05:57
mine.
05:57
It's
05:58  Speaker 3
Not
05:58
really
05:58
that
05:58
I'm
05:58
scared
05:59
that
05:59
Bigfoot
05:59
is
06:00
going
06:00
to
06:00
come
06:00
and
06:00
get
06:00
me.
06:00
Or
06:01
if
06:01
I
06:01
run
06:01
into
06:01
a
06:01
big
06:02
foot
06:02
in
06:02
the
06:02
wild,
06:02
I
06:02
don't
06:03
know.
06:03
I
06:03
mean
06:04
maybe
06:04
if
06:04
that
06:04
happens,
06:04
I'd
06:05
feel
06:05
differently
06:06
when
06:06
I
06:06
think
06:06
of
06:06
cryptids
06:07
I
06:07
think
06:07
of
06:07
big
06:08
foot
06:08
that
06:08
doesn't
06:09
really
06:09
scare
06:09
me
06:09
that
06:09
much,
06:10
but
06:10
this
06:11
does,
06:11
and
06:12
just
06:12
cryptids
06:13
in
06:13
general,
06:13
don't
06:13
scare
06:14
me.
06:14
But
06:14
when
06:14
I
06:14
came
06:15
across
06:15
the
06:15
show
06:16
and
06:16
I
06:16
watched
06:16
it,
06:17
it
06:17
really,
06:18
really
06:18
creeped
06:18
me
06:18
out.
06:19
You
06:19
can
06:19
watch
06:20
it
06:20
on
06:20
paranormal
06:21
witness.
06:22
It's
06:22
the
06:22
third
06:22
season
06:23
and
06:23
it's
06:23
episode
06:24
nine.
06:25  Speaker 1
Okay.
06:25
I'm
06:25
going
06:25
to
06:25
write
06:25
that
06:26
down
06:26
so
06:26
I
06:26
can
06:27
catch
06:27
it
06:27
tonight.
06:28
Episode
06:28
third
06:29
season,
06:29
episode
06:29
nine.
06:30  Speaker 3
Cool.
06:31
I'm
06:31
going
06:31
to
06:31
follow
06:31
the
06:31
storyline
06:32
that's
06:32
in
06:33
this
06:33
episode,
06:34
but
06:34
I'm
06:34
also
06:35
going
06:35
to
06:35
add
06:35
some
06:35
things
06:36
to
06:36
it
06:36
as
06:36
well,
06:36
because
06:37
there
06:37
were
06:37
some
06:37
embellishments
06:38
that
06:39
the
06:39
wife,
06:41
it
06:41
involves
06:41
a
06:41
couple.
06:42
The
06:42
name
06:42
of
06:42
the
06:43
couple
06:43
is
06:43
Eric
06:43
and
06:44
Shelly
06:44
Martin.
06:45
And
06:45
when
06:45
doing
06:45
more
06:45
research,
06:47
I
06:47
came
06:47
across
06:47
that
06:48
Shelly
06:48
Martin
06:48
was
06:49
not
06:49
completely
06:50
happy
06:50
with
06:50
how
06:51
that
06:51
episode
06:52
was
06:52
filmed
06:53
or
06:53
really
06:54
did.
06:55
Yeah.
06:56
So
06:56
she
06:56
wasn't
06:56
happy
06:57
with
06:57
some
06:57
of
06:57
the
06:57
embellishments,
06:58
but
06:58
when
06:58
I
06:58
go
06:59
back
06:59
and
06:59
I
06:59
look
06:59
at
07:00
it
07:00
,
07:00
um,
07:01
and
07:01
I'll
07:01
tell
07:01
you
07:01
later,
07:02
I'll
07:02
tell
07:02
you
07:02
later
07:02
what
07:03
she's,
07:03
what
07:04
she
07:04
was
07:04
unhappy
07:04
with
07:05
with
07:05
,
07:05
uh,
07:05
with
07:05
the
07:05
episode.
07:06
And
07:06
she
07:06
never
07:07
identified
07:08
this
07:09
there
07:09
,
07:09
these
07:09
creatures
07:10
as
07:10
being
07:11
wolves
07:12
necessarily,
07:13
or
07:13
I
07:13
didn't
07:13
hear
07:13
that
07:14
in
07:14
the
07:14
episode.
07:15
So
07:15
let
07:15
me
07:16
start
07:16
my
07:16
friend.
07:17
Let
07:17
me
07:17
regale
07:17
you
07:18
with
07:18
the
07:18
story.
07:19
Cool.
07:19
I'm
07:19
looking
07:20
forward
07:20
to
07:20
being
07:20
really
07:20
scared.
07:21
Okay.
07:21
Maybe
07:22
you
07:22
won't
07:22
find
07:22
it
07:22
frightening,
07:22
but
07:23
I
07:23
find
07:23
it
07:23
frightening.
07:24
But
07:24
then
07:24
again,
07:25
as
07:25
we've
07:25
discussed,
07:26
the
07:26
,
07:26
the
07:26
more
07:26
and
07:26
more
07:27
we
07:27
go
07:27
along
07:27
with
07:27
these
07:27
episodes,
07:28
we're
07:28
finding
07:28
a
07:28
lot
07:28
of
07:29
things
07:29
that
07:29
we're
07:29
afraid
07:29
of.
07:30
This
07:30
story
07:30
takes
07:31
place
07:31
in
07:32
Palmyra
07:32
,
07:33
Maine
07:33
in
07:33
2006
07:34
and
07:35
Palmyra
07:35
is
07:36
in
07:36
central
07:36
Maine.
07:37
And
07:37
it's
07:37
a
07:37
very
07:37
small
07:38
town
07:39
of
07:39
less
07:39
than,
07:40
or
07:40
at
07:40
least
07:40
at
07:40
this
07:40
time,
07:41
it
07:41
was,
07:41
I
07:41
believe
07:42
it
07:42
was
07:42
less
07:42
than
07:42
2000
07:43
people
07:44
or
07:44
right
07:44
around
07:44
the
07:44
2000
07:45
Mark.
07:46
And
07:46
how
07:46
it
07:46
starts
07:47
is,
07:47
is
07:47
that
07:48
Eric
07:48
and
07:48
Shelly
07:48
Martin
07:49
and
07:49
their
07:49
teenage
07:50
daughter,
07:50
Chelsea,
07:51
they
07:51
moved
07:52
to
07:52
pal
07:52
Myra.
07:53
And
07:53
it
07:53
was
07:54
a
07:54
difficult
07:54
move
07:54
from
07:54
them.
07:55
And
07:55
the
07:55
reason
07:55
why
07:55
they
07:55
moved
07:56
is
07:56
because
07:57
Eric,
07:57
he
07:57
had
07:57
worked
07:58
in
07:58
a
07:58
paper
07:58
mill
07:58
for
07:59
over
07:59
20
07:59
years.
08:00
He
08:00
worked
08:00
with
08:00
machinery
08:01
and
08:01
he
08:02
ended
08:02
up
08:02
blowing
08:02
out
08:03
a
08:03
bunch
08:03
of
08:04
disks
08:04
in
08:04
his
08:04
back.
08:04
And
08:04
so
08:05
he
08:05
was
08:05
permanently
08:06
disabled.
08:06
Oh
08:07
wow.
08:07
And
08:08
so
08:08
Shelly
08:08
wanted
08:09
to
08:09
get
08:09
a
08:09
job
08:09
or,
08:10
or
08:10
had
08:10
gotten
08:10
a
08:10
job
08:11
that
08:11
would
08:11
be
08:11
closer
08:12
to
08:12
home
08:12
so
08:12
she
08:13
could
08:13
take
08:13
care
08:13
of
08:13
him.
08:14
So
08:14
they
08:14
find
08:15
this
08:15
farm,
08:15
or
08:15
she
08:16
finds
08:16
this
08:16
farm
08:16
at
08:16
a
08:17
local
08:17
paper.
08:17
It
08:18
was
08:18
a
08:18
beautiful
08:18
farm,
08:19
lots
08:19
of
08:19
room
08:20
fields.
08:21
It
08:21
was
08:21
secluded
08:22
entirely
08:23
surrounded
08:23
by
08:23
these
08:24
really
08:24
dense
08:25
woods.
08:26
And
08:26
I
08:27
didn't
08:27
come
08:27
across
08:27
as
08:28
far
08:28
as
08:28
like
08:28
how
08:29
large
08:29
the
08:29
property
08:30
was
08:30
or
08:30
the
08:31
important
08:31
part
08:31
is
08:31
it
08:31
was
08:31
just
08:32
really,
08:32
really
08:33
remote.
08:33
That
08:34
sounds
08:34
kind
08:34
of
08:34  Speaker 1
Like
08:34
heaven,
08:35
but
08:35
also
08:36
like
08:36
it
08:36
could
08:36
be
08:36
really
08:37
scary.
08:38  Speaker 3
Anything
08:38
that's
08:38
out
08:39
in
08:39
the
08:39
middle
08:39
of
08:39
the
08:39
middle
08:40
of
08:40
nowhere.
08:40
I
08:40
mean,
08:41
I
08:41
think
08:41
it's
08:41
beautiful,
08:42
but
08:42
at
08:42
the
08:42
same
08:42
time,
08:42
I
08:42
think
08:43
it
08:43
is
08:43
frightening.
08:43
Especially
08:44
if,
08:44
you
08:44
know,
08:45
if
08:45
you're
08:45
just
08:45
there
08:45
with
08:46
your
08:46
immediate
08:46
family.
08:47
Right
08:47
.
08:47
I
08:47
would
08:48
be
08:48
very,
08:48
very
08:48
scared
08:49
when,
08:49  Speaker 1
When
08:49
my
08:49
mother-in-law
08:50
was
08:50
planning
08:51
to
08:51
live
08:51
with
08:51
us,
08:52
we
08:52
went
08:52
to
08:52
look
08:52
for,
08:53
cause
08:53
we
08:53
thought
08:53
we
08:53
would
08:53
need
08:53
a
08:53
bigger
08:54
house.
08:54
So
08:54
we
08:54
went
08:54
to
08:55
look
08:55
for
08:55
one,
08:55
we
08:55
went
08:55
way
08:56  Speaker 3
South
08:56
of
08:57
the
08:57
County
08:57
and
08:57
found
08:58
this
08:58
beautiful
08:58
house
08:59
to
08:59
run,
08:59
but
08:59
it
08:59
was
08:59
surrounded
09:00
by
09:00
trees
09:01
and
09:01
forest.
09:02
I
09:02
was
09:02
all
09:03
for
09:03
it.
09:03
And
09:03
she
09:03
was
09:03
like,
09:04
there
09:04
are
09:04
too
09:04
many
09:04
trees,
09:05
so
09:06
we
09:06
ended
09:06
up
09:06
not
09:07
renting
09:07
it.
09:07
But
09:08
yeah,
09:08
she
09:08
definitely,
09:09
maybe
09:09
she
09:09
helped
09:10
us
09:10
Dodge,
09:10
a
09:10
bullet
09:10
or
09:10
something.
09:11
Did
09:11
she
09:11
ever
09:11
elaborate
09:12
or
09:12
no,
09:13
she
09:13
was
09:13
just
09:13
really
09:13
freaked
09:14
out
09:14
by
09:14
the
09:14
rural
09:15
nature.
09:15
I
09:15
mean,
09:15
she
09:15
was
09:16
from
09:16
rural,
09:16
well
09:17
kind
09:17
of
09:17
like
09:17
town
09:18
Ireland,
09:18
but,
09:19
but
09:19
yeah,
09:19
she
09:19
was,
09:20
she
09:20
did
09:20
not,
09:20
she
09:20
did
09:21
not
09:21
get
09:21
a
09:21
good
09:21
vibe,
09:21
obviously.
09:22
So
09:23
it's
09:23
important
09:24
to
09:24
,
09:24
to
09:24
point
09:24
out
09:25
with
09:25
Eric
09:25
is
09:25
that
09:26
he's
09:26
an
09:26
avid
09:27
outdoorsman
09:27
.
09:28
He
09:28
was
09:28
an
09:28
avid
09:28
Hunter.
09:30
Shelly
09:30
though.
09:30
She
09:30
was
09:30
really
09:31
uncomfortable
09:32
with
09:32
having
09:33
guns
09:33
in
09:33
the
09:33
house.
09:34
So
09:34
when
09:34
they
09:34
moved
09:35
there,
09:35
Eric
09:36
had
09:36
his
09:36
older
09:36
son
09:37
who
09:37
didn't
09:38
live
09:38
there
09:38
in
09:38
the
09:38
same
09:39
residence.
09:40
He
09:40
had
09:40
his
09:40
older
09:40
son
09:40
come
09:41
over
09:41
and
09:41
they
09:41
built
09:41
like
09:42
the
09:42
strong
09:42
box.
09:43
They
09:43
put
09:43
all
09:43
the
09:43
guns
09:44
in
09:44
there
09:44
and
09:44
then
09:44
they
09:45
put
09:45
it
09:45
in
09:45
the
09:46
barn
09:46
and
09:46
they'll
09:46
lock
09:46
the
09:46
barn.
09:47
And
09:47
as
09:47
I
09:47
was
09:47
saying,
09:48
Eric
09:48
came
09:48
from
09:48
a
09:48
long
09:48
line
09:49
of
09:49
hunters.
09:50
He
09:50
said
09:50
that
09:50
he
09:51
had
09:51
hunted
09:51
just
09:51
about
09:51
everything
09:52
that
09:53
you
09:53
could
09:53
hunt
09:54
and
09:54
in
09:54
Maine,
09:55
that
09:55
was
09:55
legal,
09:55
including
09:56
Shelly
09:56
.
10:02
Oh
10:02
my
10:02
God.
10:03
All
10:03
right.
10:03
I'm
10:03
sorry.
10:04
Oh,
10:04
geez.
10:05
Um,
10:05
I'm
10:05
past
10:06
halfway
10:06
here,
10:06
Jen
10:06
.
10:07
Okay.
10:08
Now
10:08
this
10:08
is
10:08
interesting.
10:09
So
10:10
they
10:10
make
10:11
a
10:11
habit
10:11
of
10:11
it
10:12
to
10:12
develop
10:12
some
10:12
type
10:13
of
10:13
routine
10:13
and
10:14
to
10:14
do
10:14
something
10:15
together.
10:15
And
10:15
I
10:15
think
10:15
to
10:16
keep
10:16
their
10:16
mind
10:17
off
10:17
of
10:17
those
10:17
circumstances,
10:18
that
10:19
are
10:19
the
10:19
circumstances
10:20
that
10:20
were
10:20
impacting
10:21
their
10:21
lives
10:21
at
10:22
that
10:22
time.
10:22
So
10:22
they
10:23
would
10:23
sit
10:23
out
10:23
back
10:24
on
10:24
the
10:24
porch
10:24
every
10:25
evening.
10:26
So
10:26
one
10:26
night
10:27
when
10:27
they're
10:27
out
10:27
there,
10:28
they're
10:28
sitting
10:28
out
10:28
there
10:28
just
10:29
chit
10:29
chatting
10:29
and
10:31
Shelly
10:31
notices
10:31
some
10:31
lights
10:32
in
10:32
the
10:32
woods.
10:33
They
10:33
would
10:33
like
10:34
pulsate.
10:34
So
10:34
they
10:35
would
10:35
come
10:35
on
10:35
really
10:35
strong
10:36
and
10:36
then
10:36
they
10:36
would
10:36
fade
10:37
out
10:37
and
10:37
she
10:38
pointed
10:38
out
10:38
to
10:39
Eric,
10:39
like,
10:39
do
10:39
you
10:39
see
10:40
that?
10:41
And
10:41
Eric
10:41
son
10:41
came
10:42
to
10:42
the
10:42
house
10:43
and
10:43
he
10:43
could
10:43
see
10:43
it
10:43
too.
10:44
At
10:44
first
10:44
he
10:45
said
10:45
that
10:45
he
10:45
thought
10:45
it
10:45
was
10:46
like
10:46
a
10:46
flashlight
10:47
in
10:47
the
10:47
distance,
10:48
but
10:48
he
10:48
made
10:48
a
10:48
statement
10:49
that
10:49
just
10:50
kind
10:50
of
10:50
resonated
10:50
with
10:50
me.
10:51
And
10:51
he
10:51
had
10:52
said,
10:52
this
10:52
is
10:52
a
10:52
quote
10:53
about
10:53
the
10:53
lights.
10:54
Um,
10:54
but
10:55
it
10:55
seemed
10:55
the
10:56
more
10:56
we
10:56
noticed
10:56
,
10:56
the
10:57
more
10:57
it
10:57
started
10:57
changing
10:58
and
10:58
moving
10:58
around.
10:59
And
11:00
so
11:00
they
11:00
decided,
11:01
they
11:01
thought,
11:01
well,
11:01
it
11:01
could
11:01
be
11:01
poachers.
11:02
He
11:02
went
11:03
out
11:03
there
11:03
with
11:03
his
11:03
dad,
11:03
they
11:04
had
11:04
their
11:04
guns
11:05
and
11:05
they
11:05
were
11:05
looking
11:05
around.
11:06
Eric
11:06
was
11:06
saying
11:07
that
11:08
it
11:08
was
11:08
really,
11:08
really
11:09
quiet.
11:09
He
11:10
just,
11:10
just
11:10
had
11:11
this
11:11
eerie
11:11
feeling.
11:12
And
11:13
when
11:13
you
11:13
would
11:13
step
11:14
on
11:14
a
11:14
branch
11:14
or
11:15
a
11:15
twig,
11:15
it
11:15
would
11:15
like
11:15
echo
11:17
and
11:17
you
11:17
just
11:17
couldn't
11:17
hear
11:17
anything
11:18
else.
11:18
So
11:18
they
11:19
split
11:19
up
11:19
and
11:19
they
11:19
looked
11:20
around
11:20
and
11:21
Eric
11:21
just
11:21
felt
11:21
like
11:22
he
11:22
was
11:22
being
11:22
watched.
11:23
And
11:23
he
11:23
just
11:23
became
11:24
really,
11:24
really
11:25
uneasy.
11:25
And
11:26
at
11:26
one
11:26
point
11:26
he
11:27
said
11:27
that
11:27
he
11:27
thought
11:28
he
11:28
saw
11:29
something
11:29
to
11:29
the
11:29
left
11:30
of
11:30
him,
11:30
but
11:30
it
11:30
disappeared
11:31
really
11:31
quickly
11:31
while
11:32
they're
11:32
out
11:32
there.
11:32
They
11:32
couldn't
11:32
find
11:33
any
11:33
indication
11:34
that
11:34
it
11:34
was
11:34
anyone
11:35
or
11:35
animals
11:36
had
11:36
been
11:36
there
11:37
either
11:37
the
11:37
next
11:38
day
11:38
or
11:38
within
11:38
a
11:38
few
11:39
days.
11:39
It
11:39
seemed,
11:40
they
11:40
didn't
11:40
give
11:40
a
11:40
specific
11:41
timeline.
11:42
Chelsea
11:42
went
11:43
for
11:43
a
11:43
walk
11:43
in
11:43
the
11:43
woods
11:44
with
11:44
her,
11:44
with
11:44
her
11:44
boyfriend,
11:45
Nate
11:45
he's
11:45
now
11:45
her
11:46
husband.
11:46
And
11:47
they
11:47
were
11:47
walking
11:47
the
11:47
dogs
11:48
and
11:48
the
11:48
dogs
11:48
got
11:48
up
11:49
ahead
11:49
of
11:49
them.
11:49
And
11:50
when
11:50
they
11:50
caught
11:50
up
11:50
with
11:50
the
11:50
dogs,
11:51
the
11:51
dogs
11:51
were
11:51
barking
11:52
by
11:52
this