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episode 14: Rendlesham Forest UFO/UAP Incident [transcript]



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BBC News

Rendlesham Forest UFO sighting 'new evidence' claim

July 13, 2015

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-suffolk-33447592

 

Encounter in Rendlesham Forest: The Inside Story of the World's Best-Documented UFO Incident 

by Nick Pope  (Author), John Burroughs (Author), Jim Penniston  (Author)

April 15, 2014

https://www.amazon.com/Encounter-Rendlesham-Forest-Best-Documented-Incident/dp/1250038103

 

Fade to Black with Jimmy Church

Episode 576, Jimmy Church w/ John Burroughs : Rendlesham Revisited 

December 21, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-bqYvtEkiM

 

Fade to Black with Jimmy Church

Episode 982 Jimmy Church w/ John Burroughs : Rendlesham The Last Word

January 23, 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WQkBtdEqNk

 

Ministry of Defence

The National Archives

Archived on 10 Nov 2012

UAP in the UK Air Defence Region: Volume 2

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-suffolk-33447592

 

The Basement Office

Episode 5 | Rendlesham Forest UFO Incident Part 1 | Real evidence & witnesses | The Basement Office

Premiered Jun 26, 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy5tIevquP0

 

The Basement Office

Episode 6 | Rendlesham Forest UFO encounter Part 2 | Binary Code & Jim Penniston 

Premiered July 10, 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaYfsxbiKsM

 

Unsolved Mysteries

Season 4, Episode 1

Bentwaters UFO (Pts. 1 & 2)

https://unsolved.com/gallery/bentwaters-ufo/

 

UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record 

By Leslie Kean

https://www.amazon.com/UFOs-Generals-Pilots-Government-Officials/dp/0307717089

 


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 2021-01-06  42m
 
 
00:00  Speaker 1
While
00:01
on
00:01
patrol
00:01
airman,
00:02
John
00:02
Burroughs
00:02
went
00:03
to
00:03
meet
00:03
up
00:03
with
00:03
his
00:03
Sergeant.
00:04
It
00:04
was
00:04
an
00:04
opportunity
00:05
to
00:05
get
00:05
to
00:05
know
00:06
his
00:06
superior
00:06
riding
00:07
around
00:07
the
00:07
perimeter
00:08
of
00:08
the
00:08
Woodbridge,
00:09
rural
00:09
air
00:09
force
00:09
base.
00:10
He
00:10
saw
00:10
something
00:11
in
00:11
settling
00:11
that
00:11
would
00:11
change
00:12
his
00:12
life
00:12
forever
00:13
to
00:13
kill
00:13
your
00:14
light
00:14
shone
00:14
in
00:14
the
00:14
dark
00:15
of
00:15
night
00:15
in
00:15
Rendlesham
00:16
forest
00:16
at
00:16
warranted
00:17
investigation,
00:18
what
00:18
he
00:18
and
00:18
his
00:18
fellow
00:18
servicemen
00:19
saw
00:20
would
00:20
become
00:20
one
00:20
of
00:20
the
00:20
most
00:21
well-documented
00:21
UFO
00:22
sightings,
00:22
high
00:23
ranking
00:23
officials
00:23
in
00:23
the
00:24
world.
00:31
Jen,
00:32
how
00:32
are
00:32
you?
00:32
My
00:32
friend?
00:33
Hey,
00:34
I'm
00:34
doing
00:34
great.
00:34
How
00:34
are
00:34
you?
00:35
I'm
00:35
doing
00:36
great.
00:36
I'm
00:36
excited
00:37
about
00:37
tonight's
00:37
story.
00:38
So
00:38
am
00:39
I
00:39
I'm
00:39
excited
00:40
because
00:40
it
00:40
has
00:40
an
00:40
extra
00:41
terrestrial
00:42
flare
00:43
and
00:43
I
00:43
don't
00:43
think
00:43
we've
00:44
actually
00:44
we
00:44
did.
00:45
We
00:45
just
00:45
did.
00:46
Um,
00:46
we
00:46
did.
00:46
USO's
00:48
the
00:48
swimmers
00:48
of
00:48
Lake
00:49
by
00:49
call.
00:50
Yeah.
00:50
We
00:50
just
00:50
did
00:51
the
00:51
,
00:51
the
00:51
swimmers
00:51
of
00:51
Lake
00:52
by
00:52
call
00:52
and
00:53
USO's,
00:53
but
00:54
there's
00:54
just
00:54
so
00:54
much
00:55
to
00:55
cover
00:55
on
00:56
UAPs
00:57
and
00:57
UFO's
00:58
or
00:58
whatever
00:58
you
00:58
want
00:59
to
00:59
call
00:59
them.
00:59
And
01:00
,
01:00
um
01:00
,
01:00
USO's
01:01
yeah,
01:01
no,
01:02
I'm
01:02
excited
01:02
for
01:02
tonight.
01:03
And
01:03
this
01:03
is
01:03
for
01:03
the
01:03
second
01:04
time,
01:04
you're
01:04
the
01:04
person
01:05
doing
01:05
the
01:05
one
01:05
on
01:06
the
01:06
UAPs
01:07
or
01:07
UFO's
01:08
again,
01:08
whatever,
01:08
whatever
01:09
your
01:09
nomenclature
01:10
of
01:10
choices,
01:11
but
01:11
I
01:12
really
01:12
want
01:12
to
01:12
do
01:12
a
01:12
story
01:13
on
01:13
them
01:13
at
01:13
some
01:13
point
01:14
soon.
01:14
So,
01:15
cause
01:15
I'm,
01:15
I'm
01:15
fascinated
01:16
me
01:17
too.
01:17
And
01:17
I
01:17
think
01:17
we're
01:18
being
01:18
prepared
01:18
for,
01:19
for
01:19
the
01:19
big
01:19
one.
01:20
I
01:20
think
01:20
something
01:21
big
01:21
is
01:21
going
01:21
to
01:21
happen.
01:22
You
01:22
do
01:23
you
01:23
think
01:24
be
01:24
in
01:24
2020,
01:25
maybe
01:25
in
01:25
2021
01:26
that
01:27
we're
01:27
going
01:27
to
01:27
be
01:28
visited,
01:28
they
01:29
might
01:29
give
01:29
us
01:29
a
01:29
year.
01:30
I
01:30
mean,
01:31
Jesus
01:31
2020
01:31
was
01:31
just,
01:33
that's
01:33
just
01:33
too
01:33
much.
01:35
Yeah,
01:35
that's
01:36
true.
01:36
By
01:36
the
01:37
way,
01:37
this
01:37
is,
01:37
this
01:38
is
01:38
this,
01:38
our
01:38
first
01:39
episode
01:39
of
01:39
the
01:39
new
01:39
year.
01:40
It
01:40
is
01:41
so
01:41
happy
01:42
new
01:42
year
01:42
to
01:43
all
01:43
our
01:43
listeners.
01:44
Absolutely.
01:45
We
01:45
hope
01:45
that
01:45
it
01:45
is
01:46
a
01:46
better
01:46
new
01:46
year
01:47
than
01:47
the
01:47
one
01:47
we've
01:47
just
01:47
come
01:48
out
01:48
of.
01:48
I
01:48
mean,
01:49
it
01:49
was
01:49
a
01:49
challenging
01:50
year.
01:50
I
01:50
still
01:50
feel
01:50
like,
01:51
you
01:51
know,
01:51
there
01:51
were
01:51
a
01:51
few
01:52
bright
01:52
spots
01:52
actually
01:53
for
01:53
me,
01:53
the
01:53
podcast
01:53
was
01:54
one
01:54
of
01:54
the
01:54
biggest
01:55
bright
01:55
spots
01:56
starting
01:57
the
01:57
podcast.
01:57
But
01:58
,
01:58
um,
01:58
it
01:58
was
01:58
a
01:58
hard
01:58
year
01:59
for
01:59
so
01:59
many
01:59
people
02:00
and
02:00
it's
02:01
really
02:01
exciting
02:01
to
02:01
see
02:02
listenership
02:03
increasing
02:04
and
02:04
we're
02:04
getting
02:04
people
02:05
from
02:05
all
02:05
over
02:06
the
02:06
world.
02:06
I
02:06
mean
02:07
India
02:07
and
02:08
UK
02:08
and
02:08
France
02:09
and
02:09
Germany
02:10
and
02:10
in
02:10
Japan.
02:11
And
02:12
that
02:12
really
02:12
is
02:12
exciting.
02:13
And
02:13
then
02:13
we,
02:14
you
02:14
know,
02:14
have
02:14
a
02:14
regular
02:14
listeners
02:15
too
02:15
.
02:16
I'm
02:16
well
02:16
,
02:16
a
02:16
lot
02:16
of
02:16
these
02:16
people
02:16
are
02:17
regular
02:17
listeners,
02:18
but
02:18
it's
02:18
exciting
02:19
too
02:19
,
02:19
to
02:19
see
02:19
people
02:20
locally
02:21
like
02:21
in
02:21
Virginia
02:22
and
02:22
Maryland,
02:23
that
02:24
area
02:25
West
02:26
Virginia.
02:26
Yes.
02:26
Uh
02:26
,
02:26
West
02:27
Virginia,
02:27
Tennessee
02:28
get
02:28
excited
02:29
about
02:29
Tennessee
02:30
and
02:30
France.
02:31
It's
02:31
very
02:31
exciting.
02:33
I
02:33
think
02:33
it's
02:33
East
02:33
of
02:33
France,
02:34
but
02:34
in
02:34
Clichy
02:35
or
02:35
something,
02:35
I
02:36
don't
02:36
know.
02:36
Yoda
02:36
false
02:37
is
02:37
near
02:37
Paris.
02:38
I
02:38
believe
02:39
that's
02:39
super
02:39
exciting.
02:40
We
02:40
need
02:40
some
02:40
listeners
02:41
in
02:41
Ireland
02:41
so
02:42
that
02:42
we
02:42
have
02:42
people
02:43
we
02:43
can
02:43
visit
02:44
when
02:44
we
02:44
go
02:44
there
02:44
in
02:45
the
02:45
next
02:46
couple
02:46
of
02:46
years.
02:47
Hopefully
02:48
you
02:48
need
02:48
to
02:48
tell
02:48
your
02:49
potato
02:49
story
02:50
from
02:50
France.
02:52
Okay.
02:53
So
02:53
you
02:53
want
02:53
to
02:53
hear
02:54
my
02:54
potato
02:54
story?
02:55
Do
02:55
you?
02:55
Well,
02:56
I
02:56
think
02:56
the
02:57
Lucerne
02:57
France
02:57
would,
02:57
would
02:58
like
02:58
to
02:58
hear
02:58
the
02:59
potato
02:59
story.
03:00
So
03:00  Speaker 2
For
03:01
our
03:01
listeners
03:02
or
03:02
listener
03:02
and
03:02
France,
03:03
I
03:04
spent
03:04
a
03:04
semester
03:05
in
03:05
Paris
03:05
studying
03:06
,
03:06
uh
03:06
,
03:06
the
03:06
part
03:07
of
03:07
the
03:07
Sorbonne
03:07
that's
03:07
for
03:08
foreign
03:08
students.
03:09
So
03:09
I
03:09
was
03:10
there
03:10
and
03:10
I
03:10
was
03:11
no
03:11
pair
03:12
for
03:12
a
03:12
couple
03:13
of
03:13
really
03:13
bratty
03:14
little
03:14
boys.
03:15
They
03:15
were
03:15
horrible
03:16
children.
03:17
I
03:17
think
03:17
they
03:17
may
03:17
be
03:17
a
03:17
big
03:18
part
03:18
of
03:18
the
03:18
reason
03:18
that
03:18
I
03:18
don't
03:19
have
03:19
children
03:20
today
03:20
.
03:21
They
03:21
weren't
03:21
terrible.
03:22
But
03:22
the
03:22
family
03:23
,
03:24
um,
03:24
the
03:24
feeling
03:24
was
03:24
kind
03:25
of,
03:25
I
03:25
don't
03:25
know,
03:25
they
03:25
were
03:25
kind
03:26
of
03:26
strange.
03:26
Like
03:26
they
03:26
were
03:27
very
03:27
upper
03:28
crusty
03:28
,
03:28
but
03:28
anyway,
03:28
they
03:28
invited
03:29
me
03:29
to
03:29
go
03:30
to
03:30
Normandy.
03:30
They
03:30
always
03:31
went
03:31
to
03:31
Normandy
03:31
for
03:32
Christmas.
03:32
And
03:32
so
03:33
I
03:33
didn't
03:33
have
03:33
any
03:33
place
03:33
to
03:34
go
03:34
or
03:34
any
03:34
money.
03:35
So
03:35
I
03:35
figured
03:36
sure.
03:36
I'll
03:36
go
03:36
to
03:36
Normandy.
03:37
Maybe
03:37
I'm
03:37
going
03:37
to
03:37
be
03:38
like,
03:38
I'm
03:38
going
03:38
to
03:38
be
03:38
their
03:38
guests.
03:39
I'm
03:39
going
03:39
to
03:39
be
03:39
part
03:39
of
03:39
the
03:39
family.
03:40
Well,
03:40
let
03:41
me
03:41
just
03:41
say,
03:41
when
03:41
I
03:41
got
03:41
to
03:42
Normandy,
03:42
I
03:42
was
03:43
like
03:43
,
03:43
I
03:43
was
03:43
like
03:43
Cinderella.
03:44
I
03:44
was
03:44
not
03:44
part
03:44
of
03:45
the
03:45
family.
03:46
So
03:46
the
03:47
first
03:47
night
03:47
we
03:48
get
03:48
there,
03:48
they're
03:48
like
03:49
first
03:49
they
03:49
asked
03:50
me
03:50
to
03:50
go
03:50
out
03:50
and
03:50
start
03:51
a
03:51
fire
03:51
to
03:52
burn
03:53
some
03:53
trash.
03:54
And
03:54
I
03:54
was
03:54
like,
03:54
do
03:55
what?
03:56
I
03:56
didn't
03:56
know
03:56
how
03:57
to
03:57
start
03:57
a
03:57
fire,
03:58
Jen
03:58
.
03:58
I
03:58
didn't
03:58
know
03:58
how
03:58
to
03:59
burn
03:59
trash.
03:59
It
04:00
would
04:00
have
04:00
been
04:00
horrible.
04:00
So
04:00
I
04:00
was
04:01
like,
04:01
you
04:01
know,
04:04
[inaudible]
04:05
found
04:05
food
04:05
.
04:07
It
04:07
was
04:07
terrible.
04:08
So
04:09
then
04:10
they're
04:10
like,
04:10
well,
04:11
we
04:11
need
04:11
you
04:11
to
04:11
go
04:11
out
04:11
and
04:12
dig
04:12
some
04:12
potatoes
04:12
in
04:13
the
04:13
garden.
04:13
Now
04:13
mind
04:14
you
04:14
it's
04:14
like
04:15
December
04:16
23rd
04:16
or
04:16
24th.
04:17
I
04:17
don't
04:17
think
04:17
it
04:17
was
04:17
Christmas
04:18
Eve,
04:18
but
04:18
it
04:18
was
04:18
like
04:18
the
04:18
23rd.
04:19
I
04:20
mean
04:20
who's
04:20
who
04:20
goes
04:21
out
04:21
and
04:21
digs
04:21
potatoes
04:22
in
04:22
the
04:22
middle
04:23
of
04:23
the
04:23
winter.
04:24  Speaker 1
Did
04:24
they
04:24
give
04:24
you
04:24
an
04:24
implement?
04:25
You
04:25
know,
04:25
I
04:25
don't
04:25
remember
04:26
an
04:26
implement.
04:27  Speaker 2
Maybe
04:28
they
04:28
expected
04:28
me
04:28
to
04:28
dig
04:29
with
04:29
my
04:29
bare
04:29
hands.
04:30
I
04:30
don't
04:30
know.
04:31
But
04:32
I,
04:32
I
04:33
kind
04:33
of
04:33
just
04:34
said,
04:34
I
04:34
don't
04:34
know
04:35
how
04:35
to
04:35
dig
04:35
potatoes.
04:37
They
04:37
probably
04:37
thought
04:38
stupid
04:39
American
04:40
like,
04:41
look,
04:41
dig
04:42
the
04:42
potatoes.
04:44
Or
04:44
you
04:44
will
04:44
not
04:44
have
04:44
anything
04:45
for
04:45
dinner.
04:46
It
04:46
was
04:46
horrible.
04:46
And
04:47
like
04:47
the
04:47
boys
04:47
stole
04:47
my
04:48
bra
04:48
out
04:48
of
04:48
my
04:49
room
04:49
and
04:50
they
04:50
,
04:50
they
04:50
ran
04:50
it
04:50
downstairs
04:51
and
04:51
like
04:51
whipped
04:51
it
04:51
in
04:51
front
04:52
of
04:52
their
04:52
father's
04:52
face.
04:53
It
04:53
was
04:53
so
04:53
horrifying.
04:54
Like
04:54
the
04:54
entire,
04:55
I
04:55
was
04:55
so
04:55
happy
04:56
to
04:56
get
04:56
back
04:56
to
04:56
my
04:56
little
04:57
hovel
04:57
,
04:57  Speaker 1
A
04:57
room
04:58
in
04:58
Paris.
04:59
I
04:59
don't
04:59
even
04:59
think
05:00
I
05:00
would
05:00
have
05:00
been
05:00
embarrassed
05:01
by
05:01
that.
05:01
Really.
05:02
I
05:02
was
05:03
like,
05:03
it
05:03
was
05:03
so
05:03
embarrassing.
05:05
I'm
05:05
sure
05:05
I
05:05
probably
05:06
should
05:06
have
05:06
been
05:06
embarrassed,
05:07
but
05:07
I
05:07
don't
05:07
know
05:07
if
05:07
it
05:07
would
05:07
embarrass
05:08
me.
05:10
I
05:10
love
05:10
that
05:11  Speaker 2
Your
05:11
dad.
05:11
So
05:11
my
05:12
bra
05:12
is
05:12
,
05:12
it
05:12
was
05:13
a
05:13
horrible,
05:13
horrible
05:14
thing.
05:15  Speaker 1
[inaudible]
05:15
Fran
05:15
story.
05:16
So
05:16
that's
05:16
my,
05:17
yeah
05:17
.
05:17
One
05:17
of
05:17
my
05:17
many
05:18
French
05:18
stories.
05:19  Speaker 2
So
05:20
we
05:21
should
05:21
talk
05:21
about
05:21
what
05:21
we're
05:21
drinking
05:22
this
05:22
evening.
05:23
Cause
05:23
I'm
05:23
pretty
05:23
excited
05:24
about
05:24
what
05:24
I'm
05:24  Speaker 1
I'm
05:24
drinking.
05:25
What
05:25
are
05:25
you
05:25
having
05:26
tonight,
05:26
Jen
05:26
?
05:27
Wow.
05:28  Speaker 2
Well
05:28
,
05:28
I
05:28
must
05:28
say
05:28
it
05:28
is
05:29
thanks
05:29
to
05:29
you
05:29
because
05:30
part
05:30
of
05:30
it
05:31
is
05:31
a
05:31
Christmas
05:31
gift
05:31
that
05:32
you
05:32
gave
05:32
me
05:33
and
05:33
I
05:34
have
05:34
learned
05:34
how
05:34
to
05:34
pronounce
05:35
it.
05:36
It
05:36
is
05:37
[inaudible]
05:37
,
05:37
which
05:37
is
05:37
a
05:37
Japanese
05:38
plum
05:38
wine.
05:39
And
05:40
so
05:40
I
05:40
have
05:40
made
05:41
an
05:41  Speaker 1
Issue.
05:43
Um,
05:43
what
05:43
am
05:43
I
05:43
calling
05:44  Speaker 2
It
05:44
in
05:44
a
05:44
may
05:45
shoe
05:45
orange
05:45
fizz?
05:46
Because
05:46
I,
05:47
I
05:47
combined
05:47
that
05:47
I
05:47
read
05:47
that
05:48
you
05:48
could
05:48
combine
05:48
it
05:48
with
05:48
like
05:48
a
05:48
lemon
05:49
soda.
05:50
I
05:50
didn't
05:50
have
05:50
any
05:50
lemon
05:50
soda,
05:51
but
05:51
I
05:51
had
05:51
a
05:52
blood
05:52
orange
05:53
like
05:53
carbonated
05:54
soda
05:54
thingy.
05:55
I
05:55
forget
05:55
what
05:55
the
05:55
brand
05:56
is.
05:56
So
05:56
it's
05:57
like
05:57
a
05:57
blood
05:57
orange
05:58
who
05:58
may
05:58
shoe
05:59
fits.
05:59
It's
05:59
really,
06:00
really
06:00
nice.
06:01
Is
06:01
it
06:01
a
06:02
liqour
06:02  Speaker 1
Or
06:02
is
06:02
it
06:03
a
06:03
wine
06:03
or
06:04
a
06:04
I've
06:04  Speaker 2
Seen
06:05
it
06:05
called
06:05
both
06:05
things.
06:06
Um
06:06
,
06:07
at
06:07
first
06:07
gen
06:07
I
06:07
have
06:08
to
06:08
say
06:08
I
06:08
got
06:08
really
06:08
excited
06:09
because
06:09
I
06:09
saw
06:09
a
06:09
hundred
06:10
on
06:10
the
06:10
bottle
06:12
and
06:12
I
06:12
thought
06:12
that
06:12
meant
06:13
a
06:13
hundred
06:13
proof,
06:15
but
06:16
I
06:17
don't
06:17
know,
06:17
it
06:17
was
06:17
like
06:17
a
06:18
hundred
06:18
percent,
06:18
but
06:18
it
06:19
was
06:19
like
06:19
a
06:19
hundred.
06:20
I
06:20
don't
06:20
know.
06:20
It
06:20
must've
06:20
meant
06:21
like
06:21
a
06:21
hundred
06:21
percent
06:22
plum
06:22
wine
06:23
or
06:23
something.
06:23
Cause
06:23
then
06:23
later
06:24
I
06:24
finally
06:24
found
06:24
the
06:24
14.4%
06:27
alcohol
06:27
content
06:28
on
06:28
the
06:28
bottle,
06:28
but
06:29
I
06:29
was
06:29
like,
06:29
whew
06:29
,
06:29
I'm
06:29
going
06:30
to
06:30
be
06:30
feeling
06:30
it
06:30
tonight,
06:33
but
06:33
it's
06:33
delicious.
06:34
It's
06:34
really
06:34
sweet
06:35
and
06:35
fruity.
06:36
It's
06:36
really
06:36
nice.
06:37
So
06:37
thank
06:37
you
06:37
so
06:37
much.
06:39  Speaker 1
I've
06:39
seen
06:39
it
06:39
online
06:40
and
06:40
I
06:40
thought
06:40
I'm
06:41
going
06:41
to
06:41
try
06:41
to
06:41
get,
06:42
get
06:42
that
06:42
for
06:42
Jen.
06:43
And
06:43
I
06:43
was
06:43
finally
06:44
able
06:44
to
06:44
track
06:44
it
06:44
down.
06:45  Speaker 2
Really
06:46
appreciate
06:46
it.
06:46
And
06:47
it
06:47
has
06:47
the
06:47
plums
06:48
in
06:48
the
06:48
bottle.
06:49
Um,
06:49
and
06:49
I
06:49
read
06:49
somewhere
06:49
that
06:50
you
06:50
should
06:50
fish
06:50
them
06:50
out.
06:51
Like
06:52
you
06:52
should
06:52
eat
06:52
them
06:52
because
06:53
they're
06:53
really
06:53
good.
06:54
So
06:54
like
06:55
you
06:55
can
06:55
use
06:55
them
06:55
to
06:55
garnish
06:56
your
06:56
drink
06:56
.
06:56
So
06:56
I'll
06:56
probably
06:57
do
06:57
that
06:57
when
06:57
I
06:57
have
06:58
Howard
06:58
again,
06:59
what
06:59
are
06:59
you
06:59
having?
07:00
My
07:00
friend,
07:00
it's
07:01
funny
07:01
that
07:01
you
07:01
,
07:01  Speaker 1
You
07:02
are
07:02
drinking
07:03
the
07:03
hooch
07:03
that
07:03
I
07:03
got
07:04
you
07:04
because
07:05
I
07:05
am
07:05
actually,
07:06
I
07:06
got
07:06
a
07:06
sugar
07:07
cube
07:07
and
07:08
I
07:08
use
07:08
my
07:08
tongs
07:09
that
07:09
you
07:09
got
07:10
me
07:10
for
07:11
Christmas.
07:12
And
07:12
then
07:12
I
07:12
saturated
07:13
the
07:14
,
07:14
um
07:14
,
07:15
I
07:15
saturated
07:15
the
07:16
sugar
07:16
cube
07:17
with
07:18
a
07:18
few
07:18
drops
07:19
of
07:19
lavender
07:20
bitters.
07:21
Oh,
07:21
that
07:21
sounds
07:21
so
07:22
nice.
07:22
I
07:22
put
07:23
in
07:23
some
07:23
lemon
07:23
cello
07:24
and
07:25
added
07:26
Champaign
07:27
to
07:27
cheers
07:27
my
07:27
friend
07:28
ringing
07:28
in
07:28
the
07:28
new
07:29
year.
07:29  Speaker 2
Yes.
07:30
Cheers.
07:31
That
07:31
sounds
07:31
so
07:32
elegant.
07:33
20,
07:33  Speaker 1
21
07:34
is
07:34
going
07:34
to
07:34
be
07:34
everybody's
07:35
year.
07:36  Speaker 2
It
07:36
is
07:36
here's
07:37
to
07:37
2021
07:38
and
07:38
we
07:38
are
07:38
going
07:38
to
07:38
have
07:38
so
07:38
many
07:39
adventures.
07:39
Like
07:39
I'm
07:39
so
07:40
excited
07:40
to
07:42
go
07:42
places.
07:43
And
07:43
you
07:43
know,
07:44
when
07:44
we
07:44
finally
07:44
are
07:44
able,
07:45
we
07:45
are
07:45
just
07:45
gonna,
07:46
I
07:46
just
07:46
miss
07:46
,
07:46
like,
07:46
even
07:47
though
07:47
we
07:47
do
07:47
the
07:47
podcast,
07:47
I
07:47
miss
07:48
hanging
07:48
out
07:48
with
07:48
you
07:48
so
07:49
much.
07:49  Speaker 1
Me
07:49
too.
07:50
Oh.
07:50
And
07:51
one
07:51
more
07:51
plug
07:52
and
07:52
I
07:52
just
07:52
want
07:53
to
07:53
give
07:53
another
07:54
plug
07:54
and
07:54
I
07:54
know
07:55
that
07:55
we
07:55
did
07:55
this
07:56
several
07:57
episodes
07:57
ago,
07:57
but
07:58
we're
07:58
going
07:58
to
07:58
be
07:58
able
07:59
to,
07:59
hopefully
08:00
the
08:00
next
08:00
couple
08:00
of
08:01
weeks
08:01
we'll
08:01
have
08:01
that
08:01
interview
08:02
with
08:03
,
08:04
um,
08:04
the
08:04
correctional
08:04
officer
08:05
that
08:05
worked
08:06
with
08:06
Hadden
08:06
Clark,
08:07
the
08:07
serial
08:07
killer.
08:08  Speaker 2
Yes
08:08
I
08:08
am.
08:09
So
08:09
looking
08:09
forward
08:10
to
08:10
that,
08:10
that's
08:10
going
08:10
to
08:10
be
08:11
really
08:11
interesting.
08:12  Speaker 1
Yeah.
08:12
I'm
08:12
looking
08:12
forward
08:13
to
08:13
it
08:13
as
08:13
well.
08:13
I
08:13
think
08:14
it
08:14
should
08:14
be
08:14
really
08:14
interesting
08:15
episode.
08:15
So
08:16
yeah,
08:16
here's
08:16
to
08:16
Matt.
08:17
I
08:17
don't
08:17
know
08:17
if
08:17
we
08:17
should
08:18
drink
08:18
the
08:18
Hadden
08:19
Clark
08:19
,
08:19
but
08:21
so
08:21
tonight
08:21
I'm
08:21
going
08:21
to
08:22
cover
08:22
the
08:22
Rendlesham
08:23
Boris
08:23
UFO
08:24
incident.
08:24
And
08:25
I
08:25
think
08:25
a
08:25
lot
08:25
of
08:25
people
08:26
haven't
08:26
heard
08:26
of
08:26
this
08:27
one,
08:27
cause
08:27
you're
08:27
so
08:27
used
08:28
to
08:28
hearing
08:28
about
08:28
Roswell
08:29
Roswell
08:29
Roswell,
08:31
and
08:31
this
08:31
one,
08:32
believe
08:32
it
08:32
or
08:32
not
08:33
is
08:33
probably
08:33
the
08:33
best
08:34
documented
08:34
UFO
08:35
case
08:36
in
08:36
the
08:36
world.
08:37
It
08:37
wasn't
08:38
anything
08:38
recent
08:38
either.
08:39
This
08:39
happened
08:39
in
08:39
1980,
08:41
some
08:41
of
08:41
the
08:41
sources
08:42
for
08:42
what
08:42
I'm
08:42
about
08:42
to
08:42
discuss
08:43
the
08:43
book
08:44
encounter
08:44
in
08:45
Rendlesham
08:45
forest,
08:46
the
08:46
inside
08:46
story
08:47
of
08:47
the
08:47
world's
08:47
best
08:48
documented
08:48
UFO
08:49
incident.
08:49
And
08:49
it's
08:50
by
08:50
Nick
08:50
Pope
08:51
and
08:51
John
08:52
burrows
08:52
and
08:53
gem
08:53
Peniston
08:53
.
08:53
And
08:54
also
08:55
I
08:55
listened
08:55
to
08:56
on
08:56
YouTube
08:56
again,
08:57
I
08:57
listened
08:57
to
08:58
Jimmy
08:58
church's
08:59
fade
08:59
to
08:59
black
09:00
show
09:01
and
09:01
I
09:01
listened
09:01
to
09:02
episodes
09:02
five
09:03
76
09:03
and
09:04
nine
09:04
82
09:05
where
09:05
he
09:05
actually
09:05
interviews
09:06
John
09:07
burrows
09:07
.
09:08
I
09:08
think
09:08
most
09:08
people
09:08
have
09:09
heard
09:09
of
09:09
John
09:10
burrows
09:10
in
09:10
relation
09:10
to
09:11
this
09:11
incident,
09:11
if
09:12
we're
09:12
familiar
09:12
with
09:12
Rendlesham
09:13
than
09:13
you're
09:13
familiar
09:13
with
09:13
John
09:14
burrows
09:14
.
09:14
Okay?
09:15
So
09:15
this
09:15
is
09:15
a
09:15
bit
09:16
of
09:16
a
09:16
story
09:16
and
09:17
it
09:17
involves
09:17
a
09:17
lot
09:18
of
09:18
different
09:18
characters
09:19
and
09:20
the
09:20
timeline
09:21
of
09:21
events
09:21
can
09:21
get
09:21
kind
09:22
of
09:22
confusing.
09:22
So
09:23
I'm
09:23
just
09:24
going
09:24
to
09:24
start
09:24
off
09:24
with
09:24
like
09:25
the
09:25
most
09:25
significant
09:26
people
09:26
in
09:26
the
09:26
case.
09:27
One
09:27
is
09:27
Sergeant
09:28
bud
09:29
Stephens
09:29
.
09:29
The
09:29
other
09:30
is
09:30
airman
09:30
John
09:31
burrows
09:31
.
09:31
And
09:31
it
09:31
was
09:31
just
09:31
talking
09:32
about
09:33
Sergeant
09:33
Jim
09:33
Peniston,
09:34
airman
09:35
ed
09:36
cabins
09:36
sag
09:36
,
09:36
and
09:36
I've
09:37
heard
09:37
it
09:37
pronounced
09:37
cabin
09:38
sag
09:38
and
09:38
cabin
09:39
sack
09:39
.
09:39
So
09:39
if
09:39
I
09:39
use
09:40
it
09:40
interchangeably,
09:41
that
09:41
is
09:42
why
09:42
.
09:42
And
09:42
then
09:43
there
09:43
is
09:43
deputy
09:44
commander,
09:44
Lieutenant
09:45
Colonel,
09:45
Charles
09:45
halt.
09:46
And
09:47
there
09:47
is
09:48
Sergeant
09:48
Adrian,
09:49
but
09:50
stanza
09:50
and
09:51
Nick
09:51
Pope
09:52
keep
09:52
him
09:52
in
09:52
the
09:52
back
09:53
of
09:53
your
09:53
mind
09:53
too
09:53
.
09:54
And
09:54
again,
09:54
he's
09:54
a
09:55
author
09:55
of
09:55
the
09:55
book
09:56
I
09:56
was
09:56
just
09:56
talking
09:56
about
09:57
and
09:57
he
09:57
was
09:57
an
09:58
employee
09:58
at
09:58
the
09:59
British
09:59
government's
10:00
ministry
10:00
of
10:01
defense,
10:01
which
10:02
is
10:02
equivalent
10:02
to
10:02
our
10:03
DOD.
10:03
So
10:04
the
10:04
night
10:04
of
10:04
the
10:04
first
10:05
incident,
10:05
it's
10:06
not
10:06
really
10:06
the
10:06
night
10:07
it's
10:07
actually
10:07
in
10:07
the
10:07
morning.
10:08
It
10:08
occurs
10:09
on
10:09
December
10:09
26
10:10
at
10:10
around
10:11
two
10:11
30,
10:12
three
10:12
30
10:12
in
10:12
the
10:12
morning
10:13
of
10:13
the
10:14
26th
10:14
.
10:14
But
10:14
a
10:14
lot
10:15
of
10:15
people
10:15
say
10:15
it
10:16
happened
10:16
Christmas
10:17
night,
10:17
but
10:17
it
10:17
was
10:17
really
10:18
the
10:18
early
10:18
morning
10:19
hours
10:19
of
10:20
it
10:20
would
10:20
be
10:20
boxing
10:21
day,
10:21
I
10:21
guess
10:21
then.
10:22
And
10:22
the
10:22
location
10:23
was
10:23
the
10:24
Royal
10:24
air
10:24
force
10:25
bases,
10:25
Woodbridge
10:26
and
10:26
bent
10:26
water.
10:27
And
10:27
they're
10:27
owned
10:28
by
10:28
the
10:28
British.
10:29
But
10:29
at
10:29
that
10:29
time
10:30
they
10:30
were
10:30
operated
10:30
by
10:30
the
10:31
U
10:31
S
10:31
and
10:31
the
10:32
Rendlesham
10:32
forest
10:32
is
10:33
between
10:33
them.
10:33
So
10:34
between
10:34
the
10:34
two
10:34
bases,
10:36
there's
10:36
about
10:36
two
10:37
to
10:37
300
10:37
yards
10:38
between
10:38
them.
10:39
And
10:39
it's
10:39
located
10:40
close
10:40
to
10:40
the
10:40
North
10:41
sea.
10:41
So
10:42
on
10:42
the
10:42
early
10:42
morning
10:43
of
10:43
December
10:44
26
10:44
,
10:44
as
10:44
I
10:44
was
10:45
saying
10:45
around
10:45
two
10:45
30,
10:45
three
10:46
30
10:46
John
10:47
burrows
10:47
,
10:48
he
10:48
was
10:48
doing
10:48
standard
10:48
patrol.
10:49
And
10:49
he
10:50
met
10:50
up
10:50
with
10:50
his
10:51
commander,
10:51
his
10:52
new
10:52
commander
10:52
at
10:52
the
10:52
time.
10:53
And
10:53
his
10:53
name
10:53
was
10:54
staff
10:54
Sergeant,
10:54
bud
10:55
Stephens
10:55
.
10:55
And
10:55
they
10:55
were
10:55
just
10:56
hooking
10:56
up
10:56
to,
10:57
I
10:57
guess,
10:57
get
10:57
to
10:57
know
10:57
each
10:58
other
10:58
a
10:58
little
10:58
bit
10:58
better
10:59
and
10:59
to
10:59
talk
11:00
and
11:00
that
11:00
sort
11:00
of
11:00
thing.
11:01
So
11:01
as
11:01
they're
11:01
on
11:01
patrol,
11:02
according
11:03
to
11:04
burrows
11:04
,
11:04
Sergeant
11:05
Steffens
11:06
saw
11:06
something
11:06
to
11:06
send
11:07
it
11:07
to
11:07
the
11:07
forest.
11:08
He
11:08
said
11:08
to
11:08
John,
11:09
he
11:09
said,
11:09
did
11:09
you
11:10
see
11:10
that?
11:10
And
11:11
John
11:12
is
11:12
like,
11:12
you
11:13
know,
11:13
he
11:13
didn't
11:13
see
11:13
anything
11:13
come
11:14
down,
11:14
but
11:14
he
11:14
could
11:14
see
11:15
something
11:15
in
11:15
the
11:15
forest
11:16
that
11:16
had
11:17
flashing
11:17
lights,
11:17
different
11:18
color
11:18
lights.
11:19
So
11:19
technically
11:21
Stephens
11:21
is
11:21
the
11:22
first
11:22
person
11:22
who
11:23
ever
11:23
laid
11:23
eyes
11:24
on
11:24
this.
11:24
It
11:24
wasn't
11:25
burrows
11:25
,
11:25
it
11:25
would
11:25
be
11:26
Stephen
11:26
.
11:26
So
11:26
this
11:26
is
11:26
by
11:27
Burroughs
11:27
account
11:28
because
11:29
Stephen's
11:29
,
11:29
I
11:29
don't
11:29
think
11:29
he's
11:29
been
11:29
interviewed
11:30
since
11:30
this,
11:31
since
11:31
this
11:31
incident
11:32
occurred
11:32
or
11:32
at
11:32
least,
11:33
you
11:33
know
11:33
,
11:33
publicly,
11:33
of
11:34
course.
11:34
So
11:35
they're
11:35
trying
11:35
to
11:35
decide
11:36
what
11:36
to
11:36
do.
11:36
They
11:36
go
11:36
down
11:37
to
11:37
the
11:37
end
11:37
where
11:38
the
11:38
East
11:38
gate
11:38
is,
11:39
and
11:39
they're
11:39
trying
11:39
to
11:39
figure
11:39
out
11:40
what,
11:40
you
11:40
know,
11:40
what
11:40
do
11:40
we
11:40
do?
11:41
You
11:41
know,
11:41
do
11:41
we
11:41
call
11:41
it
11:42
in?
11:42
So
11:42
they
11:42
decide
11:43
that
11:44
they're
11:44
going
11:44
to
11:44
leave
11:44
base,
11:45
which
11:45
is
11:45
a
11:45
big
11:45
no-no.
11:46
And
11:46
so
11:46
they
11:47
leave
11:47
base,
11:47
they
11:48
go
11:48
down
11:48
like
11:48
this
11:49
logging
11:49
road,
11:50
not
11:50
real
11:50
far
11:50
at
11:51
all,
11:51
and
11:51
they
11:51
turn
11:52
it
11:52
around.
11:52
And
11:52
I
11:53
think
11:53
Bruce
11:53
got
11:53
out
11:53
of
11:54
the
11:54
Jeep
11:54
and
11:54
he
11:54
said,
11:55
he
11:55
could
11:55
just
11:55
feel
11:55
like
11:55
static
11:56
electricity.
11:57
Yeah.
11:58
He
11:58
said,
11:58
you
11:58
could
11:58
just
11:58
feel
11:59
like
11:59
something
11:59
was
11:59
in
12:00
the
12:00
air,
12:00
like
12:00
something
12:01
was
12:01
wrong.
12:02
And
12:02
they
12:02
were
12:02
watching
12:03
these
12:03
lights.
12:04
And
12:04
the
12:04
,
12:04
he
12:04
said
12:05
at
12:05
one
12:05
point
12:05
it
12:05
looked
12:06
like
12:06
it
12:06
was
12:06
moving
12:06
towards
12:07
them
12:07
a
12:07
bit.
12:07
So
12:07
he
12:08
got
12:08
back
12:08
in
12:08
the
12:08
Jeep
12:09
and
12:09
they
12:10
went
12:10
back
12:10
inside
12:11
the
12:11
base
12:12
and
12:12
right
12:12
there
12:12
,
12:12
like
12:12
a
12:13
,
12:13
a
12:13
radio
12:13
shack
12:14
or
12:14
something,
12:14
they
12:14
can
12:15
just
12:15
call
12:15
it
12:15
in.
12:16
So
12:16
they
12:16
call
12:16
in
12:16
that
12:16
they,
12:17
you
12:17
know
12:17
,
12:17
see
12:18
something,
12:18
they
12:18
had
12:18
seen
12:18
something
12:19
really
12:20
new
12:20
,
12:20
something
12:20
that
12:20
they
12:20
just
12:20
could
12:20
not
12:21
identify
12:21
it
12:21
and
12:21
know
12:22
what
12:22
it
12:22
was.
12:22
And
12:23
so
12:24
when
12:24
they
12:24
called
12:24
it
12:24
in
12:25
,
12:25
uh
12:25
,
12:25
Sergeant
12:25
Peniston,
12:26
who
12:27
was
12:27
actually
12:27
like
12:27
a
12:27
specialist
12:28
or
12:28
had
12:28
a
12:28
lot
12:28
of
12:28
expertise
12:29
in
12:29
crafts
12:29
,
12:30
um,
12:30
so
12:30
he
12:30
should
12:30
know
12:31
what
12:31