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A Transformation Look Ahead for 2021


Andrew Clay Shafer (@litteidea, VP Transformation @RedHat ) & John Willis (@botchagalupe, Sr.Dir. Transformation) talk about the importance of "learning organizations",   aligning change to business value, and the evolution of self-service and automated governance.

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Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. You’re both really well known in the DevOps communities, but give us the TL;DR of your backgrounds for anyone not familiar with your work. 

Topic 2 - Whether people are tired of the term “Digital Transformation” or not, change is a huge part of our industry, especially as it relates to corporate culture and organization. What’s the framing for that type of discussion in 2021? 

Topic 3 - I’ve heard you both say “technology is easy, people are hard”. How do you think about these conflicts of transformation, whether people’s individual motivations aren’t always aligned to a business goal? 

Topic 4 - One of the biggest differences between existing companies and start-ups is the level of self-service that they build around their systems. The self-service systems allow experimentation, allow automated deployments, etc. But is there a way to bring a concept of automated governance to these end-to-end models? 

Topic 5 - Oftentimes transformations are aligned with cloud-native technologies, cloud-native apps. The model of Ops in a cloud-native world is different. What are some of the areas you both focus on to make cloud-native Ops successful, or better aligned to the technology part of transformations? 

Topic 6 - What are some of the best and worst “getting started” steps that you see various groups (or companies) take in their transformation journeys? 


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 January 27, 2021  45m