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episode 3: Male Grooming - To Dye Or Not To Dye! [transcript]


Date: 24th January 2021

Name of show: A Midlife Less Ordinary

Episode title and number: To Dye Or Not To Dye

Se1 Ep3

 Brief summary of show:

 Wayne & Trev embark upon a discussion that is close to their heart and explore the often emotional subject of mens hair and what tends to happen to it as we age.

  Not afraid to tell it as it is, the guys talk of their own struggles with hair loss and going grey and how it has effected them. Ultimately, as always they will be concluding what is cool and what is not in the quest to look and feel good with your hair as a middle aged guy.

 Bullet points of key topics & time stamps:

 ●Trev: 5:27 

Because obviously, I've always been into sort of rock music and that kind of thing. And I've always had, I always had long hair. I had it cut, because obviously, I didn't get bullied in school for it. But you know, if it was good, if the kids are wicked, nice, they take the Mickey so. So the hair was things I cut it, and then obviously, grew it back long. 

 ●Trev: 24:09 

You know, obviously we probably have a very limited amount of ladies listening to this, but I've got no problem with telling a lady if she smells nice.

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  • Check out the king of mullet Brian Bosworth on IMDB 

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 2021-01-24  48m
 
 
00:01  intro
You're listening to a mid
00:01
life less ordinary, the weekly
00:06
podcast giving you the lowdown
00:06
on becoming a cool older dude.
00:12
The good times are not evaded
00:12
memory. It's time to start
00:15
loving them again. And here are
00:15
your hosts, Wayne and Travis
00:19
crab. Yeah, hello,
00:23  Wayne
everyone. Welcome to this
00:23
episode of amid life less
00:25
ordinary, lovingly entitled to
00:25
die or not to die. I'm Wayne and
00:31
this is trev
00:32  Trev
How we doing?
00:34  Wayne
And basically to die or
00:34
not to die is an episode close
00:37
to both of our hearts. It's all
00:37
about hair, your hair styles.
00:42
What happens to your hair over
00:42
time? what products you use on
00:45
your hair? How to accept when
00:45
you haven't got as much as you
00:48
used to have once? And what
00:48
color it is? Yeah, exactly. In
00:53
my case,
00:54  Trev
the appearance of your
00:54
hair. Exactly. We
00:56  Wayne
look like a chessboard
00:56
when we're next to each other
00:58
these days. Because whichever is
00:58
still dark lines gone a bit
01:02
white but
01:02  Trev
yeah, not Pink. Pink bit
01:02
coming through at some point.
01:07
But what do you think's worse?
01:07
We've had the great thing of our
01:17
board. Definitely. Yeah, I
01:19  Wayne
think we're during this
01:19
gray. You've been with me when
01:23
we've been at it. You know,
01:23
people have said Oh, gray fox
01:26
silverfox distinguished.
01:28  Trev
Yeah,
01:29  Wayne
Philip Schofield made it
01:29
Okay. Yes, right now not Phillip
01:32
Schofield. He's not the best
01:32
example. To be fair. He's
01:34
holding the gophers a bear.
01:37  Trev
Might something else same.
01:37
Okay.
01:40  Wayne
We're not, I'm not even
01:40
going to go.
01:44  Trev
Talking about now.
01:47  Wayne
But let's hope that we
01:47
could establish by the end of
01:49
this episode, basically, what
01:49
you should be doing with your
01:52
hair. What you have done with
01:52
your hair. What? What can you do
01:55
with what's left over? Yeah.
01:56  Trev
So first haircut you
01:56
remember having
02:01  Wayne
it was the traditional
02:01
1970s basin cut. Your mom used
02:04
to do it trev. Yeah. Yeah. Not
02:04
to literally put a bow around
02:08
but you just cut your hair.
02:09  Trev
I don't draw. You should
02:09
just cut your fringe. Close your
02:11
eyes. Close your eyes. Yeah.
02:14  Wayne
Hair over your ears.
02:15  Trev
And then you'd hear that
02:15
that snip snip snip snip snip.
02:19
Then it kind of fell onto your
02:19
forehead. So you knew it was
02:23
there. You
02:26  Wayne
that's all I knew. So I
02:26
thought that that was how you
02:28
had you know, I've never heard
02:28
of a BBs
02:31  Trev
No, yeah, well, we went to
02:31
the BBs first
02:34  Wayne
out, I was 15. You could
02:34
tell because, yeah, because the
02:40
school photos, I had the basin
02:40
job with the crooked fringe. And
02:43
then all of a sudden when I was
02:43
in 16 or so all of a sudden,
02:47
look, I went to the big yin, it
02:47
looks like it's
02:49  Trev
not proper to begin the
02:49
beginning if anybody's not
02:53
sponsored by them. But yes, I do
02:53
know them quite well. And I
02:58
still go there now. thing, the
02:58
place I went to get my haircut
03:04
first ever, which is just around
03:04
the corner from where I live,
03:08
because I've lived in the same
03:08
neighborhood when I've moved and
03:10
stuff. But I actually still go
03:10
there obviously is a different
03:14
person. The first time I
03:14
remember having my hair cut, you
03:18
know, when you have your hair
03:18
cut now that I've kind of wash
03:22
it or they've got like a spray
03:22
bottle where they wet it.
03:25  Wayne
Yeah, yeah, well, that's
03:25
usually when they're doing a
03:27
chop only. Back Back in
03:29  Trev
the day, the first time I
03:29
ever got my hair cut. The guy
03:32
that used to own the big yin he
03:32
there wasn't a spray ball then
03:37
they weren't around. So what
03:37
they do is he'd actually wet his
03:41
hands under the tap of the sink
03:41
in there. And he just batter
03:46
your head with Hey, how
03:48  Wayne
old were you? When did
03:48
you go to the first?
03:52  Trev
I think I was about I
03:52
nine?
03:55  Wayne
Did you have long hair
03:55
things? I didn't know you didn't
03:57
know I had no
03:58  Trev
I had children when I was
03:58
at Junior schools I had no I had
04:01
I had longish hair Junior
04:01
schools I was into rock music
04:04
then and then when I came to
04:04
senior school but yeah going
04:06
back to the barber he would slap
04:06
the water on on your head with
04:11
his white hands so this to come
04:11
out with this really headache up
04:16
like oh not what because you
04:16
only a kid obviously there was
04:19
probably was just patting it.
04:19
But it felt it was like playing
04:22
the bongos on your head. And
04:22
honestly you come out you're
04:26
like you're terrible haircut and
04:26
a headache. for like three
04:30
pounds.
04:31  Wayne
I can't believe we didn't
04:31
have water bowls in the 70s they
04:33
didn't they didn't know we moved
04:33
on. They didn't have
04:35  Trev
no thinking they did.
04:35
That's what he used to do. And
04:39
no I had long hair longest hair
04:39
because obviously it was a 70 so
04:43
you could get away with it. But
04:43
I still had long hair when I
04:46
went to senior school because I
04:46
put my hand up to be in the
04:51
school football team when the
04:51
front of the PE teachers came
04:54
around our classes. I'll put I
04:54
said I will go for us to play in
04:57
gold and our tape to the
04:57
theater. He said no, no goes for
05:01
this time.
05:02  Wayne
No. bullying in school.
05:07  Trev
The sexual thing was a lot
05:07
different when we were going to
05:12
school. Politically correctness.
05:12
Exactly.
05:15  Wayne
Yeah. Oh, well. So shows
05:15
your first experience of
05:19
somebody being prejudiced
05:19
against your
05:20  Trev
hair. Basically, yes,
05:20
yeah. Yeah. And obviously I
05:24  Wayne
had this happened a few
05:24
times to you as new. I've been
05:26
with you something well,
05:27  Trev
yeah. Because obviously,
05:27
I've always been into sort of
05:29
rock music and that kind of
05:29
thing. And I've always had, I
05:33
always had long hair. I had it
05:33
cut, because obviously, I didn't
05:36
get bullied in school for it.
05:36
But you know, if it was good, if
05:39
the kids are wicked, nice, they
05:39
take the Mickey so. So the hair
05:42
was things I cut it, and then
05:42
obviously, grew it back long.
05:48
You know, in this, I'm going to
05:48
say the word now a mallet in my
05:52
kind of when I was 1516, and had
05:52
a mallet all the way probably
05:56
through to my early 20s 21
05:56
because he got a member that's
06:00
mid 80s trip, so he's quite
06:02
fashionable. But it was a killer
06:02
haircut. My kid was
06:06
retrospectively
06:09
on the top party at the bank, my
06:09
father
06:13  Wayne
was good. Yeah, it was
06:13
kind of spiky. Wasn't it yet?
06:16  Unknown
Yeah, it kind of
06:16
spiking on the top and long at
06:20
the back, honestly, because my
06:20
hair is dry. So
06:25  Wayne
did you ever straighten
06:25
your hair, if you ever
06:26
straighten
06:27  Unknown
it a few times, but
06:27
yeah, back in the 90s when it
06:30
was when I thought I was a
06:30
member of Motley Crue. Yeah, I
06:35
did it but I remember crypto
06:35
now. Man, I didn't know I know.
06:41
So. I'm MB. Always review your
06:41
hair. It was always spicy and
06:47
colored. Blonde wasn't long.
06:47
That's right. Yeah.
06:53  Wayne
Exactly. It was exactly
06:53
that, you know, again in the 80s
06:56
Billy Idol. I can't I love him,
06:56
you know, and he's MTV videos.
07:00
And I wanted that blonde spiky
07:00
hair.
07:03  Trev
Super drugs. Hey. Yes, I
07:03
know. I yeah. All I used to use
07:11
it on in long hair. No, all I
07:11
used to you know, with my
07:15
mallet. All I used on was the
07:15
sides. So I had all natural
07:19
hair. But rock hard like
07:19
concrete sides. Yes. You
07:25
couldn't even get a comb for me.
07:25
It was trying to put a brush for
07:29
it was like honestly, I hate
07:29
them was like a little village
07:34
cottage because it was on the
07:34
side. But factual the top it was
07:38
it was a good one. A killer. You
07:38
never colored your hair drove.
07:42
Um, I cut it out. I was so
07:42
influenced by sort of musicians
07:46
and bands. I remember be I was
07:46
really into five no more. And
07:51
Mike Patton, the lead singer had
07:51
very similar hair to me. And I
07:56
was so influenced to you either
07:56
way. A lot of tracksuit bombs
07:59
and a biker jacket on he did a
07:59
backward cat. And his hair color
08:03
was the same color as mine. And
08:03
he had a blonde streak in the
08:05
back of it. And I was like,
08:05
gotta have it done. got it done.
08:10
I think my I think my mom did
08:10
it. I think I think she
08:15  Wayne
I don't remember you ever
08:15
having kind of did
08:17  Unknown
well you won't remember
08:17
it. Because I had it a few she
08:22
did it a girl I was going out
08:22
with did it. And it turned
08:25
bright orange. That bit that one
08:25
string. It turned that bright
08:30
orange light,
08:31
you know got really busy because
08:31
your hair is quite dark. Yeah,
08:33
this is it.
08:34  Trev
Yeah. And I think there
08:34
was a bit of a mistake with a
08:36
diet. So I had to cut it out. So
08:36
I had like, this lucky was right
08:40
underneath. We got the hair
08:40
right underneath to do it. Yes.
08:44
So I could cut it out. But yeah,
08:44
going back to your hair. I
08:47
remember you just having a lot
08:47
of blonde spiky hair and having
08:49
a lot of product on it. Yeah,
08:51  Wayne
I did that I spent hours
08:51
with some of the people we used
08:55
to go school with stand upside
08:55
down basically try my hair with
08:58
that super glue hair gel where
08:58
my dad really sticky might stick
09:04
your fingers together. Not super
09:04
glue.
09:05
I haven't got my dad to use
09:05
that.
09:07
I remember your dad used to use
09:07
shock waves didn't remember when
09:13
you get
09:15  Unknown
real cream? Yeah, he
09:15
is. He's old school. Yeah, old
09:18
school. He was a rockabilly. So
09:18
I used that and he couldn't
09:22
obviously was awful to wash out
09:22
and stuff.
09:24  Wayne
He liked it. Didn't he
09:24
remember? Yeah.
09:26  Unknown
Yeah, I think he
09:26
borrowed some of mine once just
09:30
to see where next. Chemicals the
09:30
colorings that must have been in
09:36
that gel.
09:38  Wayne
It doesn't bear thinking
09:38
about you have your hair perfect
09:42
overview. I mean, obviously for
09:42
you, you had your your hair was
09:46
long. And you know you that
09:46
takes a lot of maintenance,
09:50  Trev
doesn't it? Yeah, I used
09:50
to wash it. Obviously every day.
09:52
I have pride myself in my early
09:52
20s of having really clean hair.
09:57
And it was the fashion was to
09:57
have a side Paul in so yes, I
10:02
what I did, I had a mallet and
10:02
then wanted to grow it all out.
10:06
So what I did was I permit it to
10:06
get it out of that kind of two
10:10
level tier haircut. Yeah, I just
10:10
I just looked all curly and not
10:15
actually strange enough, which I
10:15
can't believe I probably look
10:18
like more like, I don't know, I
10:18
remember a girl saying, Oh, you
10:22
look like Michael Hutchins.
10:22
really well. That's not what
10:27
you'd ever say. But because I
10:27
had this
10:29  Wayne
as long as we don't find
10:29
you in a wardrobe somewhere.
10:31
Like the
10:31  Trev
mag on your head. We have
10:31
a budget. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
10:35
Obviously was in obviously in
10:35
two inner pets. I don't know
10:37
where he was. Exactly. And I had
10:37
that. And then obviously, it was
10:42
so cool to have in the kind of
10:42
early 90s to have your hair
10:46
parted on the side, like, and it
10:46
would just slightly come over
10:49
your eyes. And I used to stand
10:49
in, in the pubs I used to
10:52
drinking with my head tilted
10:52
slightly to make it look even
10:57
more. But yeah, it was how mad
10:57
when I had long hair. How bad
11:03
was it for playing with it? all
11:03
the time? Oh, yes.
11:06  Wayne
I flicking around making
11:06
sure it's straight. Yeah,
11:09  Trev
terrible. Yeah, no,
11:10  Wayne
I mean, if I'm not being
11:10
funny, I mean, which is great.
11:12
And there's we've come to find
11:12
out during the course of these
11:16
podcasts, it defined you and
11:16
that's good to have something
11:19
that defines you and makes you
11:19
different to everyone else. And
11:22
you use that and obviously now,
11:22
you've tried not swapped it
11:26
literally but you've kind of
11:26
gone from air into your beard,
11:28
which will we will talk about on
11:28
another episode just coming out
11:33  Trev
of individuality kind of
11:33
thing is
11:37  Wayne
if he does, he wants to
11:37
be like everyone else. You don't
11:40
want to just be the same as
11:40
everyone else. Exactly. Yeah.
11:44
And that and that made you a
11:44
school certainly made you
11:47
everyone. No one would forget
11:47
who you are. If somebody said
11:50
you know, Trevor did we would
11:50
know you and it's because your
11:54
hair as well.
11:55
Yeah. Because
11:56
it's easy. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
11:56
The ones who've got the bowl
11:59
cut, there's hundreds of us. So
11:59
you know, how do you define
12:02  Trev
one of them? My mission
12:02
for me when I had long hair was
12:05
to keep it because a lot of sort
12:05
of heavy metal guys and stuff.
12:10
Like hey, don't love it. I sort
12:10
of called greases and stuff so
12:14
they had quite greasy like dirty
12:14
hair. Yeah, they weren't. If you
12:20
ever went to a gig back in the
12:20
early 90s you know the
12:24
toothbrush awesome. Yeah, you
12:24
know, heavy metal dudes normally
12:27
sort of stank a greasy hair.
12:27
Yeah, some people like carry
12:30
their own tankard about and
12:30
stuff. But I really wanted I
12:35
think he was probably the music
12:35
that I was listening to in the
12:39
heavy metal genre. were quite
12:39
Posey. So I just really wanted
12:44
clean hair. So my hair I used to
12:44
use hot oil on it, like twice a
12:48
week and because it was it was
12:48
just like, I remember like
12:52
getting in a ruckus with the
12:52
guys I used to knock about
12:54
whether I'm still really good
12:54
friends now we all read long
12:56
hair. And we all kind of have an
12:56
argument with another fella with
13:01
long hair and you'd be trying to
13:01
get your hair out of say you
13:04
didn't get it rude. It was like
13:04
I remember watching the film.
13:10
was the one with Mark Wahlberg
13:10
in when he takes over in the
13:15
Boogie Nights. No, no, no. Rock
13:15
Star I
13:18  Wayne
know too. When you mean
13:18
rock star? Yeah,
13:21  Trev
yeah, really good. And he
13:21
there's a bit weird though. He
13:23
met other but he's been another
13:23
band for in a car park of a geek
13:27
of an arena. And then last year,
13:27
they kind of like that's just us
13:32
back in the day. Really is you
13:32
know, you never read long here.
13:36
Did you get a bit of a bit of a?
13:36
No.
13:38  Wayne
I'd like to have a tail
13:38
here where we've been like a
13:40
weird version of Benjamin Button
13:40
where you've gone from long hair
13:43
to short hair. And I've got
13:43
quite a bad look like Bill
13:47
Bailey or something now so yeah.
13:47
Yeah, so no, don't go anything
13:51
against bill Bailey. You're
13:51
welcome to come on. You're gonna
13:55
win Strictly Come Dancing,
13:55
apparently. No, no, sorry. I
13:59
don't watch it. But he's, you
13:59
know, just what I mean is yes,
14:02
that would be quite funny. I've
14:02
tried. But my hair's too was too
14:07
wasn't well, it's hard work.
14:07
I'll be honest, it's just bloody
14:10
hard
14:10  Trev
work trip was Yeah, I
14:10
don't have to do it. I'll be
14:12
taken over that the regime of do
14:12
my hair back then. As guys, it's
14:18
become a bit transpire to be
14:18
mentioned, if you had both of
14:21
you. Have you ever dyed your
14:21
hair? You haven't not colored
14:24
it? Obviously
14:25  Wayne
not a? No. I mean,
14:25
obviously we've called you so
14:28
today. I don't think it's good.
14:28
I remember my my dad being
14:33
paranoid about going gray. Why
14:33
don't
14:37  Trev
cry. I don't get it.
14:38  Wayne
I don't know. Because I
14:38
think it's something that people
14:41
in general, you know, I mean, if
14:41
you let it people have power
14:45
over you by people saying Oh,
14:45
you're gay. I like it.
14:48  Trev
Okay. Sean Connery.
14:50
Yeah, it was great.
14:52
Yeah, one of the biggest
14:52
heartthrobs ever I remember like
14:55
watching the film The Rock when
14:55
you see it, look cool. mean,
15:00
look at Yeah, she said, so I
15:00
don't. And if you ever look at
15:05
any kind of Google call old men
15:05
or call old dudes will probably
15:11
come up at one point if you
15:11
Google it. Yeah.
15:17  Wayne
But yeah, exactly will be
15:17
us.
15:19  Trev
Most of them have got gray
15:19
hair. So yeah, he's called
15:24
surely to have gray hair. I
15:24
don't see why.
15:27  Wayne
I think I think it's
15:27
changed. I think attitudes have
15:29
changed, Trevor, I think that I
15:29
mean, it's unbeliev I don't I
15:32
mean, I've gone if I look at
15:32
pictures from eight years ago,
15:35
my hair was brown. And then if
15:35
and so's over, you know,
15:39
incrementally Yeah, and now I'm
15:39
almost totally gray and the
15:43
heading Wyatt so you know, it
15:43
happens. Rosie macula though,
15:47
isn't it? But I yeah, I love
15:47
doing my same as you but
15:51
obviously with your long hair.
15:51
He was no your beard. I was with
15:54
my hair and being short it took
15:54
me a people who say you got
15:57
short hair. It takes you an hour
15:57
and a half to do it. I known for
16:00
carrying a hairbrush and hair
16:00
gel in the other pocket when I
16:02
went out. You know I loved it
16:02
used to define me in a sense
16:06
before I used to do the weight
16:06
training things. And I used to
16:09
ride a motorbike also and that
16:09
messes up your hair obviously so
16:12
I used to carry all that stuff
16:12
around.
16:13  Trev
I still I still carry I've
16:13
actually when I work I carry one
16:19
hair comb, a beard comb and a
16:19
moustache comb Believe it or not
16:25
work I carry
16:27  Wayne
some big utility
16:31  Trev
Gremlins, we need that
16:31
multi tool at the start. Oh,
16:36
yeah, I can't think
16:38  Wayne
of the name of the
16:38
companies he's not
16:42  Trev
like a Swiss Army Knife of
16:42
like
16:46  Wayne
we don't want people to
16:46
think the idea so before this
16:48
gets aired, we'll get that paid
16:48
in sold
16:52  Trev
so that people don't go
16:52
guys dyeing their hair. A lot of
16:56
guys dye their beards as well.
16:56
And really, yeah, people were
17:01
not the same color as their
17:01
hair. Well, yeah, occasionally,
17:04
but no, a lot of people dye
17:04
their beards to like, cover the
17:07
crime up and I've got quite a
17:07
bit of gray by beard. And I was
17:11
quite looking forward to it
17:11
going gray. I because I saw the
17:15
briars. She said again, the
17:15
grade he's kind of not you don't
17:19
know you could like Gandalf
17:19
because he pretty cool. You
17:24
could find him he symbolizes
17:24
wisdom to me a touch of grime.
17:31
Yes. Yeah. Well, you know we
17:31
don't want everybody to like
17:35
kind of put just for men our
17:35
business because we don't want
17:37
any more anybody. But some
17:37
people lose. They're really
17:42
young. lose their hair young.
17:42
And
17:45  Wayne
look how many famous
17:45
people man Have you seen lately?
17:49
Yeah, I've got I've just let it
17:49
go gray or you can tell they
17:51
were coloring their hair. What's
17:51
the bloke at Spandau Ballet
17:54
Martin? Martin came? Yeah, he
17:54
just went gray overnight because
17:57
obviously you've been coloring
17:57
it Yeah, there's a I can't
18:00
remember the guys names. I don't
18:00
really watch it but going east s
18:03
brown here a bit of a heartthrob
18:03
branding max branding. I think
18:07
his name was in the show. Sorry,
18:07
I know that that just made that
18:10
go I'll be talking about Russian
18:10
literature who right now? He
18:14
went gray gray overnight because
18:14
I think now is acceptable. Don't
18:19
let yourself grow look at your
18:19
hair as it is let people decide
18:23
if you look good with gray hair.
18:24  Trev
Yeah, don't just look just
18:24
for the funny thing is the gray
18:28
hair thing doesn't bother you
18:28
the gray my beard doesn't bother
18:32
me. I must admit when I noticed
18:32
I was losing my hair. I was
18:37
gutted our markers for having
18:37
such a call having such long,
18:44
decent hair to see that I was
18:44
the slide and yeah, it just
18:49
devastated me. And I'm still not
18:49
overly comfortable with it now
18:53
but it is what it is. What can
18:53
you do? No,
18:56  Wayne
I think we're both at the
18:56
same level of this.
18:59  Trev
I use products to help
18:59
kind of you know the alpecin
19:02
shampoo
19:03  Wayne
or to make the most of
19:03
what you got. Yeah,
19:05  Trev
this is it you bought this
19:05
wall like you know you're not if
19:08
it totally goes you've just got
19:08
one strain on Homer Simpson You
19:12
got it. But you can kind of get
19:12
away with it. You know, but they
19:19
don't say I without you know
19:19
people are probably think I'm a
19:23
bi I am a groomer. Yeah, what
19:23
what do people say? What was the
19:27
saying metrosexual is a metric?
19:30
Yeah, metrosexual. Yeah. GQ man,
19:32
I suppose. And you wouldn't
19:32
think so? Because I just look
19:35
like a
19:36  Wayne
bike. And really, this is
19:36
this. This is the thing people
19:39
tend to think that obviously
19:39
somebody if you saw Trevor Noah
19:42
together. Plenty of photos would
19:42
probably be on some on the
19:45
website. But you know, you'd say
19:45
probably I grew more than trip.
19:49
But Trevor puts a lot more
19:49
effort into it than I do. I
19:51
mean, I'm not some sort of judo.
19:51
Sorry, I've got nothing against.
19:56  Trev
Yeah, so
20:00  Wayne
Now travelers sorry,
20:00
yeah, I've got nothing against
20:03
that.
20:04  Trev
Yeah. The weird thing is I
20:04
don't really get why it's manly.
20:11
to smell bad or to look bad.
20:11
Where? Where does that? I don't
20:16
know. Yeah, just that.
20:17
Where did that happen? people's
20:17
preconceptions are big powerful.
20:22
being true?
20:23
Yeah. That's the thing. You
20:23
start with women as well, they
20:26
could, if they're, they're going
20:26
out for a night. They could they
20:30
look totally different without
20:30
makeup. They wake up in the
20:33
morning, it's like, what the
20:33
hell is that mean? Do anything?
20:36
And they really No, no. And then
20:36
everything is the truth. If they
20:41
do they get a bit of a,
20:45  Wayne
you know, the best thing
20:45
to do is just buy loads of
20:47
drinks. Trev until they can't
20:47
tell you that like no, no, no, I
20:51
would do that kind of thing. Oh,
20:51
no, no, don't don't say it like
20:54
that. You make yourself not
20:54
being authentic.
21:00  Trev
I probably do more than
21:00
you. But then obviously, I've
21:04
got a regime it's hard to work.
21:04
You've got more to look after.
21:07
and stuff. But yeah, you can
21:07
over groom I did that about 10
21:13
or 15 years ago, like with
21:13
moisturizer and stuff like that.
21:16
And if you use too much of it,
21:16
you can cause problems with your
21:18
skin, which he did me for
21:18
months. So you can go over the
21:24
top, especially if you've got
21:24
sensitive skin, which I have,
21:27
you know, so yeah, but yeah, I
21:27
have to be careful you I don't
21:30
understand, especially with the
21:30
sort of aftershave thing because
21:33
obviously if you looked at me
21:33
You wouldn't think I use alpha
21:36
shape obviously I do but I don't
21:36
know you do not want to smell
21:39
like I don't care but yeah, I
21:39
don't get why do you do you use
21:44
quite expensive aftershave is
21:44
Yeah, I've got my big feet. I
21:47  Wayne
love smelling nice. So
21:47
it's part part. I think a lot
21:50
more when I know my job changed
21:50
to go on a road. I think you're
21:53
obviously the impression of you
21:53
is very important. Well, yeah, I
21:57
know you still important when
21:57
you're in the shop. I mean, to
22:00
me is me. I felt
22:02  Trev
empowered. Full stop,
22:02
isn't it? Yes. Only certain
22:05
people that can just get a bed.
22:05
And don't maybe if you don't
22:10
care then Good luck to you. But
22:10
I'm not saying
22:12  Wayne
Yeah. Oh, no. You're
22:12
spending that time doing
22:14
something else. Good. Great. You
22:14
know, as long as you're enjoying
22:16
it. Yeah,
22:17  Trev
if you see what they're
22:17
not guilty of you feel a bit
22:21
embarrassed in do try something.
22:21
Try to you know, to be all this
22:27
rubbish about. I haven't got
22:27
time for that. He's rubbish.
22:29
Just get up earlier. Yeah, it
22:29
costs you to take to do it. I
22:34
don't start work to it. But I
22:34
get up at 10 to six. I'm not
22:36
saying I stand in the mirror for
22:36
two hours. But, but I like to
22:40
wave and that's another thing.
22:40
That's probably something for
22:43
another time, but I like to have
22:43
time to sit and get eaten to
22:47
contemplate your day. not want
22:47
to walk out a beer toast a cup
22:50
of coffee in the end? No.
22:52  Wayne
But that's the alarm goes
22:52
off in five minutes.
22:55  Trev
That's why you know why if
22:55
you've got a beard why you
22:58
wouldn't use beard oil? No,
23:01  Wayne
no, exactly. No. Well,
23:01
we're hopefully you can give
23:05
people's will will bring up the
23:05
beards will be Yeah. So because
23:09
obviously, it's fashionable to
23:09
talk not just fashion. Well, if
23:14
you add one before that I again,
23:14
I'll make that clear, but ease
23:18
fashionable, you know, and
23:18
people might be thinking of
23:20
having a beard and you'll see
23:20
you're very knowledgeable. So
23:23
yeah, I think that we've
23:23
dedicated our whole episode to
23:26
that and yeah, give benefit of
23:26
your knowledge.
23:30  Trev
It's like where it's taken
23:30
me as well. I've grown a beard a
23:33
bit Not exactly. Exactly. So
23:33
that yay did so that but yeah,
23:40
go again back on the grooming
23:40
thing i i don't really
23:42
understand why people wouldn't
23:42
Rob why fellers wouldn't want to
23:48
smell good or feel good. It
23:48
makes you feel better as well
23:51
doesn't it?
23:52  Wayne
And your hair look your
23:52
hair look the hair look good as
23:54
well, you know whether it's long
23:54
or short, wherever, just just
23:57
make sure it's looks like you've
23:57
made an effort with it. You
24:00
know, if there's nothing like
24:00
people saying Oh, I like your
24:03
hair or you smell nice or
24:03
something a complimentary
24:07
towards you. It gives you the
24:07
props that you're chasing. The
24:09
thing is, I
24:09  Trev
don't know, you know,
24:09
obviously we probably have a
24:11
very limited amount of ladies
24:11
listening to this, but I've got
24:14
no problem with telling her lady
24:14
if she smells nice. Because he
24:19
doesn't want to know that. If
24:19
you say Will you smell you know?
24:21
Yeah,
24:22  Wayne
do it you know, kind of
24:22
respectful while you've never
24:24
had a problem calling a spade a
24:24
spade and I don't mean
24:27
literally. Obviously you you
24:27
tell people exactly what's going
24:30
on, dude. Nice. Exactly. You
24:30
know we wouldn't be offensive to
24:36  Trev
a beam
24:37  Wayne
does not stick at the
24:37
dumps backside. makes people
24:45
feel good. Yeah, your hair looks
24:45
nice. You know? Yeah. I've
24:49
learned that to be honest with
24:49
you. But I think you've helped
24:51
me with that because I've done
24:51
that a lot only the last few
24:54
years and more when I was single
24:54
to be fair.
25:00  Trev
Time is now, you know, the
25:00
world's very weird, strange and
25:04
miserable go a long way. So a
25:04
couple of compliments to people,
25:08
especially when you get older
25:08
because, you know, it just makes
25:12
you feel like, there is not
25:12
something to live for. But
25:15
there's still
25:17  Wayne
good thing No one's ever
25:17
gonna tell you if we're giving
25:19
them a compliment, you know,
25:19
rather than the opposite.
25:23
I just think it's quite, it's
25:23
nice. Yeah, it's nice to
25:27  Trev
see a gentleman.
25:28
Otherwise every day's the same.
25:28
You just do it in person goes,
25:31
Oh, by the way that that jacket
25:31
looks nice on you. Or, you know,
25:35
only does he do if it does. But
25:35
if it does, say, you say no,
25:40
tell somebody tell somebody you
25:40
know, because it might make
25:43
their day, they might be having
25:43
an awful day. They might be but
25:46
if you tell them, they look
25:46
nice, or they smell nice, or
25:50
that suits them or like blah,
25:50
blah.
25:52  Wayne
Even even blokes if you
25:52
say that to a lot you try you do
25:56
that you say? I know if I know
25:56
because you wouldn't. But you
26:00
just wouldn't say anything if
26:00
you wouldn't be offensive. But
26:02
if you say I like your new
26:02
trainers or you've noticed
26:06
things like that, you know,
26:06
things like that just being in
26:09  Unknown
conversation. It gets
26:09
you to know people. Yeah, yeah,
26:14  Wayne
there's a lot to be said
26:14
for that token of knowing
26:16
people. Trev I want to test your
26:16
knowledge on something right now
26:19
with that little segment we like
26:19
to call tests are more prepared
26:24  Trev
now.
26:30
That does sound are saying I
26:30
would listen.
26:33  Wayne
I know hence why it's
26:33
there. Basically, today's test
26:36
Trev is a bit different because,
26:36
well, one, I couldn't think of
26:39
five questions for the subject.
26:39
So there's four. But basically,
26:46
because we're doing hair, I was
26:46
hoping that basically we'd go
26:50
through the best mallet for
26:50
different categories. And those
26:54
good a lot this is this is your
26:54
time. Okay, I
26:57  Trev
know you'd like there's no
26:57
wrong or right answer. No,
27:00
there's no, there's no right or
27:00
wrong.
27:02  Wayne
I felt bad. Last week. Do
27:02
you got a couple wrong? I
27:04
couldn't sleep. Yeah, you know,
27:04
I was trying to make those you
27:08
get them, right.
27:08  Trev
Because I'll be like
27:08
texting you all night saying
27:11
like, done. Exactly.
27:15  Wayne
So I'm making it more
27:15
like trevs advice now rather
27:18
than trips, tests being tested.
27:18
So basically best mallet and
27:22
this is something you should be
27:22
good at. Not you and you had a
27:25
great mallet. So you're not
27:25
including,
27:28  Trev
you know, who had the best
27:28
smile. ismailia score. So some
27:33
of the go Yes. Because the tears
27:33
for theism? I did. Yeah.
27:37  Wayne
Everybody wants to do
27:37
curls. Yeah.
27:41  Trev
Women are allowed to have
27:41
a taste for FIA's boys haircut
27:45
back then. Yeah, that's the
27:46  Wayne
80s Yeah, that's what
27:46
happens. But these these are
27:50
these are famous people, so
27:50
everyone will know him, but
27:52
rather than the people that went
27:52
to social Jones, so Okay, so the
27:57
best mallet and the first
27:57
category would be sports. So
28:00
there's a few people I can think
28:00
of what about yourself?
28:03  Trev
Um, I can think of two
28:03
guys back in the late 80s. That
28:09
played for the football team I
28:09
support. Okay, so spurs play.
28:14
Yeah, who had Oh, I know you're
28:14
gonna say well done. look good.
28:25
Yeah, they kind of were mallets
28:25
didn't they? They did. Yeah.
28:30
Yeah. Andre, Cassie has had Mike
28:30
kind of mallet didn t. Andrew?
28:35
Yeah, he's was quite long. At
28:35
the back. See, the thing is, we
28:40
have Chris Wadler, Glenn Hoddle.
28:40
They weren't they were mallets
28:43
but they weren't long at the
28:43
back. mallets were they? No,
28:47
they weren't the red No, Molly.
28:47
They were the Leos Molly, Molly,
28:52
what they you know, get the jump
28:52
around the shoulders. Molly.
28:57
Were me I was more of a redneck
28:57
mallet when I was a metal Molly.
29:01
I always always dreamed
29:03
about Pat cash was easy. Yeah,
29:03
wonderful. Well, Pat cash
29:06
Actually, I saw Pat cash a
29:06
couple of times at gigs. And I
29:11
saw him come out with geeks.
29:11
Yeah, you are made to Kevin
29:16
human john McEnroe. A massive
29:16
heavy metal fans folk play
29:20
guitar. Well, yeah. And yeah,
29:20
Pat cash. I saw him out. Quite a
29:24
few gigs in London back in the
29:24
day. And he actually came out
29:30
with I made once he was good
29:30
friends with I made when I went
29:33
to see him a couple of times.
29:33
They did come out. Yeah, he had
29:35
a great
29:35  Wayne
year. Good. Yeah. Good as
29:35
well.
29:37  Trev
He did well emphasize the
29:37
money because he pushed his
29:40
headband up. He was probably
29:40
losing his. And he actually
29:44
probably she probably was
29:44
getting a kind of the front of
29:48
it was guys. He pushed that kind
29:48
of checker. headband up, didn't
29:53
he? Yes. caught up. So he had
29:53
that. Yay. Yay.
29:57  Wayne
Been a good looking guy.
30:00  Trev
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, come
30:00
across a really nice fella.
30:05
He's Australian. They do,
30:10  Unknown
too. Good, fellas. So
30:10
Windsor they lot, Trevor, if
30:13
that's the four that I can think
30:13
of as me because the amount of
30:17
product and Carla Cassie Yes,
30:17
she had his own night and he had
30:22
color right? Yeah. He had the
30:22
blonde beats he had dark roots.
30:27  Wayne
And did he have a syrupy
30:27
at some point?
30:30  Trev
So the weird thing is
30:30
we've under a gassy. He had
30:33
loads of hair and then numb.
30:37  Wayne
No, exactly. Yeah, so
30:39  Unknown
it's funny that
30:39
actually max Marian Steffi Graf
30:41
does that too? Yeah. Yeah, he's.
30:41
Yeah, he's a German
30:51  Wayne
Nazi collection of No, we
30:51
won't go. Let's go to category
30:57
number two. Well done. Yeah,
30:57
I've done a really good episode.
31:03
for writing. Couldn't you
31:03
couldn't push?
31:10  Trev
Yeah.
31:12  Wayne
Was it? Yep. Number two,
31:12
please. Um, number two movies.
31:16
So there's a few I can think of
31:16
straight away but I'll let you
31:22  Trev
get the ultimate one
31:22
because I'm thinking God, you've
31:26
got your blockbuster mallet
31:26
seven year.
31:29  Trevor Deeley
Yeah. Well, just
31:29
for that film. You mean? No.
31:32
Well, no, rather than in real
31:32
life.
31:34  Unknown
Yeah, the blockbuster
31:34
movies I'm probably gonna forget
31:36
a couple of them which is a
31:36
shame but like Mel Gibson had a
31:39
blockbuster didn't need a lethal
31:39
weapon. Yeah, lethal weapons.
31:43
Yeah. blockbuster Malik. Kurt
31:43
Russell's been a bit of a king
31:46
with it.
31:47  Trev
Yeah, absolutely doomed in
31:47
some way.
31:50
Yeah, kick. Russell had various
31:50
mollet Sydney. He really Yes.
31:55
Which was great. He kind of did
31:55
in so many different films. But
32:01
I think for ultimate product.
32:01
Ultimately. I tell you, who you
32:09
might know you will remember him
32:09
I think. But if you want to see
32:12
I was about to say our great van
32:12
Dam's Maliki's especially in
32:16
Hall God. Steven Seagal if you
32:16
let us ponytail Yes. Then he
32:22
would have addict stanner I've
32:22
got a few. But you couldn't tell
32:26
because I tried my hair one
32:26
thing but I used to grease the
32:29
top back to get it back in a
32:29
ponytail drove there. Karate Kid
32:33
bad guy at number three. You
32:33
know? I had and I remember a
32:38
girl actually saying to me night
32:38
owl. The reason I fancy you is
32:41
because you look like The Karate
32:41
Kid.
32:46  Wayne
It's funny that she
32:46
picked Karate Kid free Yeah, all
32:49
of them as well. I
32:49  Trev
think this Molly if you
32:49
could go straight to video. Was
32:53
Brian Bosworth stone cold?
32:53
stone. Yeah, remember that? Yes.
32:58
Hey, look it up. Go on internet
32:58
movie. Okay, let's see. We might
33:03
even put the picture up on our
33:03
website. But Brian Bosworth is
33:07
an American football. There
33:07
wasn't a before. Yes. And he was
33:09
supposed to be like that one of
33:09
the next big action heroes. I've
33:12
still got them on Davey, could
33:12
you put that one at the back? It
33:15
just comes to me it just come to
33:15
me but he that field if you can
33:19
get a chance to see stone cold?
33:22  Wayne
Yeah, he just enjoy it
33:22
anyway.
33:24  Unknown
It'd be fun. It was
33:24
just the ultimate it terrible
33:29
action movie. And he knows that
33:29
as well. Last Lance henriksen.
33:34  Wayne
Now Cedric says he's a
33:34
nice
33:36  Trev
guy he got well. If you
33:36
want to see a film with lots of
33:41
mallets in it, ripped up t
33:41
shirts. Tight fight. Kind of sky
33:47
blue jeans and cowboy boots.
33:47
Don't cold is your film. It's a
33:51
film for me. Yeah, exactly.
33:51
Yeah,
33:54  Wayne
exactly. Right. Thanks
33:54
for that one stripy pulled. This
33:59
one should be I think will only
33:59
be a good time to do free
34:01
categories today. So make this
34:01
one a good one. That's cool.
34:05
Music. So there's a few choices
34:05
there. Obviously you can pick
34:09  Trev
genres very quickly. Yes,
34:09
you've got the ultimate once
34:14
we've got the country once
34:14
you've got the ultimate Country
34:17
and Western mallet, which is a
34:17
good breaking mallet.
34:21  Wayne
Yes.
34:22
Yeah. Miley's dead is dead
34:22
mallet.
34:28
Bad Somalia.
34:28  Trev
That's bad.
34:32  Unknown
A really poor kind of
34:32
film with Irish potato blight,
34:36
isn't it? streets
34:39  Wayne
something that might, it
34:39
could be far and away to
34:42  Trev
Ali's mother's father's
34:42
Miley Cyrus had it all Hindley,
34:50
because it was just hair cuts in
34:50
one, two. Yeah, you could take
34:54
both those bits of hair off. And
34:54
they were like even hairstyles.
34:58
Yeah, you've got to be Yeah.
34:58
Some kind of main to get away to
35:03
hairstyles on one head.
35:05
And ego. Well, they didn't. He
35:05
did. He did.
35:08
And then a bit more obscure for
35:08
me and the one I actually
35:12
modeled my Molly on for a few
35:12
months was Adrian Smith of Iron
35:17
Maiden. He had Yes, a very sort
35:17
of short bit longer the bag I
35:22
remember Jim curette of simple
35:22
mines had quite a piece. Yeah,
35:28
he, he dabbled with it. There's
35:28
probably loads of heavy metal
35:33
guys. I know Jeff tire queens,
35:33
right in these early days at a
35:37
real amazing mallet. But there's
35:37
probably you could probably go
35:42
through any year 80s, late 80s,
35:42
early 90s BAM before heavy metal
35:48
band before the sub band had
35:48
done. Really. And obviously,
35:52
you've got a lot of the same
35:52
sort of arr bands on survivor
35:55
the music for Rocky, your
35:55
journey a lot of their guys had
35:59
mallets any of that kind of soft
35:59
rock from like the early 80s.
36:05
And even Eddie Van Halen, God
36:05
bless you soul, like probably an
36:10
amazing Maestro of guitar. was
36:10
guilty of having a pretty bad at
36:16
one point. I don't think a
36:17  Wayne
lot of people escaped it.
36:17
I'd like to see somebody take on
36:20
the mentor and have someone else
36:20
Scott Adkins, who I bring up
36:23
quite early in some kind of
36:23
action film now because
36:26  Trev
I would like that. Oh,
36:26
yeah, go back. I think that's
36:29
really one of the 80s because
36:29
you've always been the 80s
36:33
action here. Action Hero. Take
36:33
it right back. A do like a
36:38
headline. Yeah. Because I kind
36:38
of have real tribute to those
36:45
kind of movies. And you know,
36:45
the full thing wear cowboy
36:48
boots, leather padded jacket,
36:48
and do the mallet scarf.
36:54  Wayne
That's all I guarantee
36:54
you, Trevor. Trevor, be
36:57
watching. I'm watching you will
36:57
be bought that movie, and I will
37:01
buy it.
37:02  Trev
So you got to
37:06  Wayne
stop with what you had
37:06
before. That's enough about
37:08
that. But yeah, so thanks for
37:08
that trip, I think. I think
37:12
we've covered a lot of ground in
37:12
Malibu. And it's not a fishing
37:17
channel. So you know, it's about
37:17
the hair. Job. So getting on a
37:22
more serious note. So like
37:22
ourselves, we're getting a bit
37:25
older now. Yeah. And the hairs
37:25
starting to dissipate. Is that a
37:28
good word for
37:29  Trev
any any words? for it?
37:31  Wayne
We've used all up
37:31
already. Yeah, it's spinning out
37:34
a bit. You know, and I find it
37:34
quite I found it quite
37:39
distressing when I first
37:39
realized and I know you did, and
37:41
I think we're at similar level
37:41
was always
37:45  Trev
nice if you ever if you
37:45
think I'm not the guy in that
37:47
ball, go and stand in the post
37:47
office. Yeah. I first noticed
37:54
especially this time of year if
37:54
you're waiting for a pass or
37:57
there's a Christmas present
37:57
camera look at the security
38:03
camera. I think
38:03
I might go in bold. That was the
38:03
first time I know that
38:08
the the litmus test, your
38:08
cameras are awful for picking it
38:12
out. Because the lighting is so
38:12
light for escalators as well.
38:16
You know, you said those kind of
38:17
Yes. I
38:18
mean, you're on the air. Yes.
38:18
Yeah. If you're gonna doubt the
38:22
album, right? I can't see it.
38:22
But this shows
38:24  Wayne
how much it affects your
38:24
life, doesn't it? No, we're both
38:26
saying the same thing here. And
38:26
it's stress. It causes you when
38:28
you look at that video and you
38:28
you can see it and I found that
38:31
quite distressing. And then you
38:31
start painting and then you
38:33
forget about it for some time.
38:33
And no one's ever a couple of
38:36
people said to me when you do a
38:36
taller than me and looking down.
38:39
You're going to fit that. What
38:39
do you think? I don't know.
38:43  Trev
I have to point you out.
38:44  Wayne
I know why. I wouldn't do
38:44
it and we talk about it.
38:48  Trev
But why would you tell
38:48
someone that? Why would you do
38:50
that? Yeah,
38:51  Wayne
I never saw people I
38:51
don't like
38:54  Trev
just got Oh, you're fat?
38:54
Yeah, exactly. Oh, yeah. And
38:58
you're, you're a charmer. Thanks
38:58
for that.
39:02  Wayne
Exactly. So he's, you
39:02
know, it's hard enough to come
39:04
to terms with anyway and it pops
39:04
into your head. But no one's
39:07
ever said no one. We've been out
39:07
we've been out to lots of
39:10
different feeds. No one's ever
39:10
said Oh, you slap it or
39:12
something like that to make you
39:12
anything I've been I've had to
39:14
sort of fit in here for about
39:14
eight nine years now.
39:18  Trev
I first noticed it was
39:18
when I was 40
39:22  Wayne
when he was 40 Yeah, I
39:22
know what was it that camera in
39:26
the post
39:26  Trev
office. It was my was my
39:26
wedding photo of all the things
39:31
I've ordered I think you get by
39:31
and they want massive wedding
39:35
flowers and all these great
39:35
things but they were nice ones.
39:38
And I still like kind of long
39:38
longer shared in the core of Bob
39:42
kind of corrosion or conform a
39:42
lead singer pepper cane and he
39:46
awful awful you scored and I had
39:46
that. And like I was like Oh,
39:50
what's that? I was great. And
39:50
then I I had a lot of ponytail
39:56
at work. I'd like a little jazz
39:56
ponytail. You know the little
39:59
one And then it's at the top and
39:59
awful Oh yeah, I thought that
40:07
actually cutting my hair off
40:07
would be like a real major thing
40:10
but it wasn't I just went to
40:10
begin NACA and you just within a
40:15
party Tony just snipped it off
40:15
and just you
40:17  Wayne
you always knew you was
40:17
going to use it years ago I
40:20
remember when we were sitting in
40:20
a pub in I think we were about
40:23
25 years old. We used to do sort
40:23
of a world after after work and
40:27
you said you said was if my hair
40:27
goes thinner and as I get older
40:29
I'm just gonna cut my hair
40:29
shorter and shorter and you use
40:32
David Seaman as an example of
40:32
how your hair was gonna go as
40:35
much as you hate Arsenal is it I
40:35
suppose he was a good example
40:40
and you did kind of follow that
40:40
example you go that way
40:43  Trev
yeah
40:46
yeah, I couldn't go back if I
40:46
don't get me wrong. I listened
40:50
to a lot of rock country rock
40:50
and southern rock and guys in
40:54
these bands on blackberry smoke
40:54
I've got really epic long hair
40:57
and i love it i think is
40:57
amazing. But I couldn't go back
41:02
I had my when I see guys with
41:02
long hair. I'm like is really
41:05
cool. But for me now that that
41:05
bits done, I think James
41:08
Hetfield said that he you know,
41:08
he had long hair and he cut it
41:10
off. And he said, that was big,
41:10
then this is me now and that's
41:14
how I feel about it.
41:16  Wayne
Yeah, exactly. You know,
41:16
you know, when it's good, it's
41:19
good to know when it's the right
41:19
time to do it. Yeah. And even
41:22
though there's no rules, no
41:22
one's telling you, you have to
41:24
do that. It's good to kind of
41:24
evolve. Try something Yeah,
41:27
you're comfortable. You got to
41:27
be comfortable with yourself. So
41:29
I I'll be honest, I am you know,
41:29
I'm trying to experiment. I
41:34
don't expect to you know, I'm
41:34
ready to shave. I've gone very
41:37
short with my hair again,
41:37
because I'm getting filtered.
41:39
And I'm experimenting with the
41:39
big free basically that they
41:44
recommend for keeping your hair
41:44
which is a medic, medicine
41:47
called Propecia, finasteride?
41:47
No, no, it's a proper
41:52
medication, you have to get
41:52
prescription and that keeps your
41:55
hair then you've got minoxidil,
41:55
which grows hair, as is
42:00
clinically proven to grow hair.
42:00
These are quite expensive. These
42:02
things. Yeah. And you put your
42:02
hair twice a day. And the third
42:06
one is the shampoos that I
42:09  Trev
use in the coffee base was
42:09
a German. Yeah. Yeah. The other
42:13
thing I use as well, but
42:13
bizarrely enough is good for
42:17
your nails as well. Is that
42:17
biotin tablets? Yes, yeah. I've
42:22
not really noticed any kind of
42:22
difference by hair.
42:26
I haven't even tried to beat
42:28
my nails grow like nuts.
42:30  Wayne
Yeah, mine. Do I have to
42:30
cut them every day? Yeah, that's
42:33
fine. But that's also protein.
42:33
Yeah, another protein. We're
42:38  Trev
definitely with one thing
42:38
I can't. I can't bear. I must
42:42
admit, that's not stopping me at
42:42
all. It will never nails CMP
42:46
See, and fellas, we've long
42:46
nails unless you're
42:49  Wayne
maybe we'll bring that up
42:49
in the actual grooming one. See
42:53
if people do have any reason for
42:53
it. Yeah. So just in summary,
42:59
true. I mean, I can't say is it
42:59
cool to have a bald head or is
43:02
it cool to is I mean, it is what
43:02
it is. I mean, there's cool
43:05
guys, okay, we've got dates, you
43:05
know what you've got, if you've
43:10
got a try at least make an
43:10
effort with it. Don't try and
43:13
comb it over on her if it's
43:13
really bad. So I had a bit of a
43:17
comb over went live recently. I
43:17
cut my hair shorter. But not not
43:21
Bobby Charlton style.
43:25  Trev
Steel is exactly that
43:25
fine. The thing is I would I
43:32
don't know what the percentage
43:32
is but it must affect 80% of
43:36
made not Yeah, by our age
43:36
difference. Yeah, cuz you forget
43:39
you kind of forget that. You're
43:39
50 and you think Well, I've
43:42
lived their best years. Oh, not
43:42
saying I'm
43:46  Wayne
sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah,
43:46
but yeah,
43:48  Trev
but yeah, baby I hear is
43:48
live their best years. Yes.
43:52  Wayne
I think that's what
43:52
you're saying. And I've grown
43:54
you grow into yourself. I think
43:54
people this is me being honest.
43:58
I think people look silly. I
43:58
know people don't got all their
44:00
hair hair our age. And they look
44:00
weird. Like some kind of monkey.
44:04
I think you grow as a monkey
44:04
hair. So it's like, but I think
44:11
it looks weird. I think as you
44:11
grow older, you're meant to lose
44:14
you and it's part of how you
44:14
grow into yourself. And as long
44:16
as you're still grew, you know,
44:16
cotton
44:19  Trev
and all that can you kind
44:19
of do because there's so many
44:22
decent sort of hair things. Like
44:22
they were just gel back in a day
44:25
for us. But now there is there's
44:25
wax. Exactly.
44:28  Wayne
Clay there's thickening
44:28
agents, guys. Yeah, I use all of
44:33
them. You know, I
44:34  Trev
used to go. I used to I
44:34
use like a Yeah, I kind of have
44:39
a matte one to kind of make it
44:39
look a bit thicker and then I
44:44
use like a kind of not a wetlook
44:44
one but like a sort of greasy
44:48
look. One sec is a bit machine.
44:48
Yeah. So
44:50  Wayne
give to a machine. Yeah,
44:50
I think you're right. Yeah, I
44:53
have to fit in my hair because
44:53
it's been obviously and I use
44:55
clay that does that and it looks
44:55
right now I've got my hair
44:59
short. happy with it again. So
44:59
I'll get hopefully we'll get
45:02
number five.
45:05  Trev
We've still we've here so
45:05
I have my hairstyle. I've gone
45:09
over to the side Polly, haven't
45:09
I now
45:11  Wayne
I haven't seen you
45:11
because we've been
45:15  Trev
they probably doesn't
45:15
really notice that much because
45:16
he's not used to have a middle
45:16
pipe.
45:18  Wayne
That's a good thing in a
45:18
sense, because it means that you
45:21
blend it into your style
45:24  Trev
fellows to have side
45:24
parties now, isn't it? That kind
45:27
of Yeah, that's what I yeah, but
45:27
I've
45:29  Wayne
got a bit shorter again.
45:29
But but to summarize, I think
45:34
that if you're going gray, don't
45:34
you know, unless you subtly
45:37
managed to color it without
45:37
people noticing. Don't just go
45:40
from white to brown overnight.
45:40
It's not cool.
45:45  Trev
Use Reed Richards at the
45:45
Fantastic Four is your Yes. He's
45:49
supposed to be the man on the
45:49
planet. And he's got these two
45:53
grey stripes on the side of his
45:53
hair that kind of symbolize that
45:56
symbolize that intelligence. So
45:56
use that. Yes.
46:00  Wayne
Yeah. use that as a
46:00
benchmark. Try to go gray
46:03
gracefully. I don't think
46:03
there's anything to be
46:06
embarrassed about going gray. I
46:06
know there's, I've got gray
46:08
hair. So I would say that
46:08
interview. You're still you're
46:10
still Brown. So yeah, I don't
46:10
think there is I didn't cause me
46:14
any disgust advance.
46:17  Trev
I like it and you like it?
46:17
And yeah. So, you know,
46:22  Wayne
don't don't worry about
46:22
things like that. Obviously, we
46:25
know it's distressing. If you if
46:25
your hairs feeling we got that
46:28
problem. It's distressing. But
46:28
just you still groom the same
46:32
way you cut your hair. But let
46:32
me be confident it's confidence
46:35
that
46:36  Trev
make something of it.
46:36
Yeah, make some make some
46:39
something, do something. Have it
46:39
have a style that suits that?
46:43
Whatever, whatever point of
46:43
hair, you're at your age, have a
46:48
style that suits that.
46:49  Wayne
Yeah, exactly. And be
46:49
confident own it. Yeah, that's
46:53
right. Yeah. So So basically, I
46:53
think that sums up today's
46:58
episode. I think we've covered
46:58
everything we need to if you
47:02
want to have a bit of fun,
47:02
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47:06
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47:13
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47:17  Trev
aspiring to be my
47:17
benchmark.
47:23  Wayne
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47:23
voicemail. Review us if you
47:27
don't mind. It'd be great to
47:27
hear from you. We want to
47:30
interact with our audience as
47:30
time goes by. Yeah, definitely.
47:34
So thank you for tuning into
47:34
this episode.
47:36  Trev
Again. It's been very good
47:36
again, and we'll see you on the
47:39
next one. Bye Bye.
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