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episode 5: Bearded Villains - Interview With A Villain [transcript]


Date: 10th January 2021

Name of show: A Midlife Less Ordinary

Episode title and number: Se1Ep5 – Interview With A Villain

Brief summary of show:

After last week’s episode all about beards and their history with tips from Trev on how to grow a stonker of a beard, we shift the focus onto what some guys with suitable beards get up to in the various beard clubs around the world.

The title “Interview With A Villain” relates to the world’s biggest beard club “The Bearded Villains” of which Trev is a member and proud co-captain. Here Trev busts some of the myths surrounding beard clubs and all the good work they do for charity. Trev touches on the bond and brotherhood that the members feel for each other and the social life they enjoy whilst being members. 

So if you took Trev’s advice in the last episode and have started on your journey to a showcase beard, let Trev inform you on how to expand your social life and join a beard club.

Bullet points of key topics & time stamps:

·       Trev: 3:53 

Again, all of a sudden, in the last four or five years, beards have become very fashionable. And then you've got TV shows on Sons of Anarchy that have really kind of made that kind of lifestyle. Kind of very household people, you know, for something that was quite underground. It does kind of is a lot more invoke now.

 

·       Trevor Deeley: 23:40 

We have a quite a few guys that have been in the services that have joined up. And as I as I said before, earlier on in this conversation, there's a lot of different people in different walks of life. There's policeman, there's army guys, there's security guys, every walk of life ever, which is good, because it gives, you know, because obviously, we raised money that has to be looked after.

 

·       Trevor Deeley: 25:40 

·       age doesn't really come into it. per se, I'm really good friends with all the guys and yeah, I'm not even looked at. And again, you get that kind of older uncle figure. 

·       
 
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·       The Bearded Villains https://www.beardedvillains.com/

·       The British Beard Club https://thebritishbeardclub.org/

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 2021-02-07  34m
 
 
00:01  intro
You're listening to a mid
00:01
life less ordinary, the weekly
00:06
podcast giving you the lowdown
00:06
on becoming a cool older dude.
00:12
The good times are not afraid of
00:12
memory. It's time to start
00:15
loving them again. And here are
00:15
your hosts, Wayne and Travis.
00:22  Wayne
Yeah, hello, everyone.
00:22
Welcome to this episode. And I'm
00:25
Wayne and this is Trev. I'm back
00:25
and I'm good.
00:30
And today we're doing an
00:30
interview with a villain. And
00:34
it's all about beard clubs.
00:36
Not a real villain just know.
00:36
He's a rascal. he's a he's not a
00:42
he's not a villain at all. But
00:42
the
00:45  Trev
Aston Villa support was
00:45
either Oh, controversial.
00:49
Yeah.
00:52
But kinda my cousins and uncles
00:52
are Aston Villa supporters. So
00:55
we know Oh, yeah. Because you're
00:55
from Birmingham. Oh, no, that's
00:58
all because of my roots. I
00:58
wasn't gonna say anything.
01:02  Wayne
You know, I was gonna
01:02
say, I know what you're gonna
01:04
say. But after last week's
01:04
grooming episode, we did say
01:08
that obviously, having a beard
01:08
can lead to a social life a
01:12
bigger, bigger, fuller social
01:12
life and tribes a good example
01:15
of that and a big social life to
01:15
be honest. So what what what is
01:20
a beard club trip?
01:22  Trev
Basically, exactly what it
01:22
what it is what it says.
01:27
It's just basically a group of
01:27
guys that have got together who
01:30
have got beards that are just
01:30
trying to do good in the world.
01:34
Really.
01:35
There's loads of about, I'm a
01:35
member of the world's biggest
01:39
ones. Which is why you mentioned
01:39
villains. The Bearded Villains.
01:45  Wayne
What do you know about
01:45
bearded villains? I know, you
01:47
know, a little bit of it for me.
01:47
But you know what, what? What's
01:51
your take on it? I mean,
01:51
obviously, I went I've been to
01:55
I've gone with you when you've
01:55
gone to some of the some of the
01:58
meats and I've seen the kind of
01:58
brotherhood that you have. So I
02:01
look at it like because
02:01
obviously I'm intimate but I
02:03
look at it like a like I know it
02:03
sounds a bit basic better like a
02:07
hells Angel without motorbikes
02:07
by expect a brotherhood in that
02:09
car. Yeah. Why do you actually
02:09
try to kind of all that it's got
02:13
a real
02:14  Trev
bike club. Look about it.
02:14
We do try a distance guy. No.
02:18
Yes. Don't want to offend any of
02:18
the, you know, the Hells Angels.
02:22
Another cool. Yeah, exactly. We
02:22
don't. So that's that's a you
02:26
know, one of the things he's
02:26
like with the cuts and the sort
02:28
of patches and stuff.
02:31
We don't really encourage a lot
02:31
of the kind of directly copying
02:35
bike clubs and Hells Angels,
02:35
because he's a bit
02:38
disrespectful, I think, of
02:38
course. Yeah. But the Yeah, the
02:41
same kind of vibe in the sense
02:41
of chapters was the community.
02:45
Yeah, yes. Yeah. Is the
02:45
chapters. Yeah, there's a
02:48
ranking. You know, when I say
02:48
ranking, it's not like,
02:53
like the army. But there's got
02:53
to be some kind of structure in
02:56
it. Just for the organization.
02:56
Yes, that's the thing. So you're
03:01
a member of the Bearded
03:01
Villains, which is the one I
03:03
know that you enjoy. And you're,
03:03
you're actively involved, and
03:06
also a member of the British
03:06
beard Club, which is a lot more
03:10
of a general beard club. Again,
03:10
like there is meats and there's
03:14
a social side of it. That is not
03:14
in my opinion, it's not as
03:19
trying to think of the right
03:19
word here as complex if that
03:23
makes Yes, it's a lot more kind
03:23
of looser.
03:26  Trevor Deeley
But yeah, you
03:26
know, to pick the guys I've met
03:29
him there are a lot of the
03:29
villains is the only club you
03:31
can actually be if you are a
03:31
beaded villain as well. You
03:34
can't. villains you can't be in
03:34
another big club. There's
03:38
various other ones are the Big
03:38
Bad Boys, the Viking beard club.
03:42
You can't be a member of all of
03:42
them.
03:45  Wayne
There's a big kudos
03:45
involved, isn't there? We've
03:47
been a member of the villains,
03:47
isn't it? From what I can see.
03:49
Yeah, yeah, there is Yeah.
03:53  Trev
Again, all of a sudden, in
03:53
the last four or five years,
03:56
beards have become very
03:56
fashionable. And then you've got
03:59
TV shows on Sons of Anarchy that
03:59
have really kind of made that
04:04
kind of lifestyle. Kind of very
04:04
household people, you know, for
04:09
something that was quite
04:09
underground. It does kind of is
04:13
a lot more invoke now. So
04:13
there's a template of that a lot
04:17
of people obviously think he's
04:17
called, which again, is you
04:19
know, I'm a fan of Sons of
04:19
Anarchy. And I'm a bit
04:22
controversial because he is just
04:22
like, men soap opera. A bit of a
04:26
guilty pleasure for me because,
04:26
but a lot of guys and girls love
04:30
it, Richie, and I can see any is
04:30
really I don't really do enjoy,
04:34
or have enjoyed it. But yeah,
04:34
it's not it's not Shakespeare.
04:38
No, no. You want to go if he was
04:38
good, you know, not everything
04:42
has to be so it doesn't matter
04:42
as long as entertaining. Yeah,
04:45
he's got some really good music
04:45
in it as well. Yeah, I think the
04:47
only thing I thought when I
04:47
first watched Sons of Anarchy
04:51
was I just didn't think they
04:51
look like we were bikers, but
04:53
they grew into it. We wouldn't
04:53
want to be sitting with you
04:56
spiced rum watching Hamlet
04:56
really would you on a Saturday.
05:00  Wayne
I'm sorry. I wasn't
05:00
saying he was uncultured or
05:03
anything but totally the
05:03
opposite. totally the opposite.
05:08  Trevor Deeley
It's been half
05:08
his Christmas tea. Okay, Van
05:11
Damme.
05:12  Wayne
And Scott Adkins Don't
05:12
forget Scott. It's about time he
05:16
grew a beard actually only for
05:16
boys but he's been long enough
05:19
to get into VLANs now for email,
05:21  Trevor Deeley
that's the good
05:21
guy you know, and I know from
05:26
our gym days to come up with a
05:26
really good idea because the one
05:30
of the actual things about being
05:30
a bat villains is your beard has
05:34
to be at least 40 mil long, and
05:34
get long goatees don't count it
05:38
has to be a full beard.
05:41  Wayne
Is there an actual
05:41
measurement so 40 mil which
05:43
Sorry? Excuse me, is that the
05:43
length is the length of
05:48  Trev
this and most chapters
05:48
have got like kind of cards they
05:53
give out when they want to kind
05:53
of recruiting you guys I do that
05:56
a lot. When I started in 2017,
05:56
with the Essex guys, the Essex
06:03
chapter which I'm a co captain
06:03
of, well, I've got Jimmy who's
06:06
very good Captain I've got
06:06
really good team around me
06:09
Jimmy's our captain Where's he's
06:09
our scout. We got on really
06:13
well. The rest of the guy but
06:13
when I joined there was only 10
06:17
of us. We had another Guy Martin
06:17
from South End join together
06:20
he's and that shows you what
06:20
kind of had different people are
06:24
in in the big villains and
06:24
diversities. Yeah, yes, I'm, I'm
06:29
a shop manager. And
06:31
Martin, the guy joined with the
06:31
same day I met him at the train
06:34
station before we went to our
06:34
first meet he he's an armed
06:38
response guy. Yeah, the
06:38
Metropolitan Police in London.
06:42
He's also six foot seven. Don't
06:42
miss me and I think it's obvious
06:46
head when the train boarded.
06:46
Mine again that is that's one
06:49
good thing about like a beard
06:49
club or the Bearded Villains is
06:53
you get to meet lots of
06:53
different people you wouldn't
06:55
necessarily meet under any other
06:55
surgery. It was quite still
06:58
quite It was quite bizarre that
06:58
meet so my first meet we got
07:03
there I got on with so I hit it
07:03
off with mine Really?
07:06
straightaway on the train. And
07:06
there was a side there was 11 of
07:11
us in the Essex guys then. And
07:11
then a couple of honorary
07:14
members. Obviously if you move
07:14
you could still be a member of
07:17
the you know the town or the
07:17
area you you read. But a lot of
07:22
guys relocate and join because
07:22
obviously we all know each other
07:24
virtually. you'd become lazy to
07:24
move to Birmingham. You could
07:28
become a member of the central
07:28
England guys you can move.
07:32
But yeah, we got there and there
07:32
was like eight nine other guys.
07:37
I'd never met these guys before.
07:37
And all we had in common was we
07:41
had a long longer than 40 mil
07:41
beard
07:45
But it was really again, you
07:45
know, I seem to hit it off with
07:48
a guy's virtually straight away
07:48
and yeah, it's gone from there.
07:52
So he's taken me I've everywhere
07:52
I've been Amsterdam twice
07:57
which is massive Beardstadam
08:02
I've been reading Bara which was
08:02
edim beard.
08:06
A lot of the London
08:09
big meets they have lot in kind
08:09
of Camden why and that which I'm
08:14
familiar with. That's where you
08:14
came up that day. We went to the
08:16
concert Oh, it looked like great
08:16
fun to be honest.
08:20
Yeah, is it's and I know you
08:20
think a lot of the guys that are
08:24
your brothers that you've met
08:27
the brothers the Brotherhood.
08:27
Yeah. We basically obviously
08:31
with the sort of the state the
08:31
world in the moment with COVID
08:36
you can't we can't make meats
08:36
and stuff. But just so we keep
08:40
in contact, day to day and
08:40
during the week. We use sort of
08:45
social media Instagram,
08:45
Facebook, but we use live chat
08:49
rooms to to discuss staff and
08:49
have a laugh. Sort of vibes to
08:54
go and community. You Yeah,
08:54
exactly. Yeah, exactly.
08:59  Wayne
So Trev if I if I saw if
08:59
I wanted to join the villains
09:03
and I looked I got my tape
09:03
measure out. I've got a 40 mil
09:07
beard. One point not only 1.9 to
09:07
be exact,
09:12
as instead of this kind of
09:12
George Michael 1984 stubbled
09:16
I've got
09:18
that wouldn't qualify, pat cash
09:18
Exactly. But how would I how do
09:23
you how did you get involved?
09:23
How do I get to
09:28  Trev
if you've got a decent
09:28
length beard or something
09:32  Trevor Deeley
some a lot myself
09:32
or wears or Jimmy or another
09:35
member that's been there for
09:35
will give you a card asking you
09:38
to look into the Instagram. You
09:38
basically have a social media
09:42
presence. You've got to use
09:42
Instagram or Facebook via
09:44
Instagrams, that one. Then you
09:44
look it up see what you think
09:48
got the card it gives you the
09:48
details and again contact that
09:52
card or give you a contact for
09:52
the scale and he'll put you
09:56
through it then you get put into
09:56
like a new hopeful chat. We Get
10:00
to know a lot of the other guys
10:00
that are wanting to join. And
10:02
then once you've met certain
10:02
criteria, you've been a few
10:06
meats and your Instagram, your
10:06
social media presence is quite
10:10
good. You get put in the mind
10:10
rooms, a worldwide worm the
10:14
European room. The good thing
10:14
about a lot of the chat rooms is
10:17
if you've got any interest as
10:17
well. A lot of the guys in I've
10:23
got very similar interest is is
10:23
video game rooms. So you can
10:28
talk about that. You've got the
10:28
sort of film rooms, you've got
10:32
motorbike rooms, cool. They're
10:32
not everything wherever you're
10:36
in. So there's probably a
10:36
villain there's into it as well.
10:38
This would invite you into a
10:38
room. It so you
10:42  Wayne
don't hear that right.
10:42
What did you say? It's basically
10:44
invite only so you have to have
10:44
a presence.
10:47  Trevor Deeley
Yeah, you do. If
10:47
he's actually by a car, the way
10:51
I did, it was a strange way. I
10:51
was already using social media
10:57
and Instagram and I saw the big
10:57
villains logo. I didn't know
11:02
anything about I just have a
11:02
logo look cool. So I posted this
11:06
logo like yes, every chapter on
11:06
the central Midlands guys. The
11:12
sex guys have got sort of a
11:12
school mascot called Bucky,
11:15
which one of our members was
11:15
kind enough. His daughter was
11:19
kind enough to design for us. We
11:19
do a lot of merchandise with
11:22
that kind of thing on discuss
11:22
that in a minute. Because I've
11:25
got I've covered the charity
11:25
work. But yeah, I posted this
11:30
picture. And the captain then
11:30
messaged me of some of us have
11:36
seen it and guy contact him or
11:36
he saw a comment member and
11:39
said, like, you know, that's our
11:39
logo. It's it's sort of
11:42
trademarked kind of thing.
11:42
Unless you're in the villains.
11:46
You're not supposed to post it
11:46
here. And I was like, oh, okay,
11:50
I'll take it down. But I had no
11:50
problem. I just looked cool.
11:52
Yeah. And he said, Well, I've
11:52
looked at your profile and like,
11:55
you know, your beard is is long
11:55
enough if you're interested in
11:59
joining. So he invited me into
11:59
the lion chair and basically I
12:04
just went from there went to our
12:04
first me and a little couple of
12:09
months later and yeah, and
12:09
that's sort of when we have
12:12
different kind of meats where
12:12
some meats are just like a few
12:16
beers, you know, with your do t
12:16
shirts and your patches on your
12:19
jacket and stuff like that. Then
12:19
you've got a sort of dapper
12:22
meets we do. I know. I think it
12:22
was the Danish one of the
12:25
scattered goodness deviance
12:25
groups they like because we've
12:30
got flags and stuff. That's what
12:30
it is a flag or a black flag
12:35
which you're allowed to raise
12:35
when you become a villain. Yeah,
12:39
basically all our chapters have
12:39
got our own colored flag but you
12:44
have to have a certain amount of
12:44
members which is another rank up
12:48
in the villains to get one and
12:48
basically once you've got that
12:52
Black Flag you know you're
12:52
you're kind of in Yeah, but
12:57
you've got my Sorry,
12:58  Wayne
sorry. No, I was just
12:58
gonna say I remember seeing a
13:01
video I think it was one of the
13:01
villains main central meets I
13:05
don't know if that's Birmingham
13:05
or something and there was
13:07
hundreds and hundreds of guys
13:07
walking through a city center
13:11  Trevor Deeley
Yeah. The
13:11
Amsterdam ones the biggest one I
13:14
think the one that you may have
13:14
seen was the Coventry one or was
13:19
the Birmingham one what we do is
13:19
we go to we went to Edinburgh
13:23
Castle for one they did let us
13:23
use it to actually round the
13:26
corner. Something to do with the
13:26
royal families flag I believe it
13:30
was but you're going back to the
13:30
the meets with the flags. I
13:33
think it was the Danish guys or
13:33
the one of the Scandinavian
13:36
chapters went to live historical
13:36
place where they were and they
13:42
had a dapper mix it all dressed
13:42
up you know, black and white
13:45
look very small, very small.
13:45
course the flags are black and
13:49
white and various other darker
13:49
colors and called a pass of Bye.
13:55
reported them to the police say
13:55
that like there was like it
13:59
looked like a terrorist group.
13:59
The first thing people think of
14:02
is when they see a group of guys
14:02
with big beards they normally
14:05
think of terrorists think of
14:05
ISIS. Exactly. And basically the
14:09
the police came down it made the
14:09
national news over there. Which
14:14
was like yeah, which was you
14:14
know, I say there's no bad
14:19  Trev
but yeah, but yes, I saw
14:19
the flags are a big thing. We
14:26
have locked flags shoot. So we
14:26
go as I said, we went to
14:28
Edinburgh Castle, they wouldn't
14:28
let us use it because of the
14:30
royal families signature flag or
14:30
something. But yeah, we say it
14:35
creates that kind of cool vibe
14:35
when we're all together with our
14:38
flags and stuff. Yeah,
14:39  Wayne
some sight when you see
14:39
these guys together. Yeah,
14:43
exactly. It's a nice way of once
14:43
you've got the pictures.
14:47  Trevor Deeley
Looking back on
14:47
it. Yes. Looks. It looks
14:50
organized.
14:51  Unknown
Yes. No, it
14:52  Trevor Deeley
certainly does.
14:52
Yeah, one of the biggest things
14:54
as well with the villains is
14:54
doing stuff for their local
14:59
communities and chairs. We try
14:59
to do a lot we do so homeless
15:02
runs just now for Christmas.
15:02
Obviously we couldn't go out,
15:06
like giving homeless bags out to
15:06
the homeless guys in our towns.
15:11
We normally pick different towns
15:11
or different years. So I
15:15
basically just got a load of
15:15
kind of homeless wash bags
15:18
together. We can flannels, even
15:18
toothbrushes, socks, blankets,
15:22
and I think I think we got about
15:22
30 of those in a box and
15:25
delivery to help our local but
15:25
we raised a lot of money where
15:29
we came from and merchandise we
15:29
one of the biggest things a lot
15:32
of veteran guys are in interior
15:32
patches they sell on their
15:36
jackets and stuff. So you know
15:36
looks like a belonging and cyber
15:40
those with there's an auction
15:40
room and some of those go for
15:42
long mega money in for charity,
15:42
which is good. Yeah, no, it's
15:47
great.
15:49  Unknown
charities way of giving
15:49
back one I think one thing about
15:52
villains, especially as the
15:52
biggest beer club in the world
15:56
is you only get out what you put
15:56
in. If that makes sense.
16:02
Yeah, you can you meet lots of
16:02
great people, you can do a lot
16:05
through it. Which is one of the
16:05
reasons I got involved. I mean,
16:09
obviously it's not a cult it's
16:09
not Masonic.
16:13
Well, I suppose people would see
16:13
as a distance he doesn't like a
16:17
bike club. It does look a bit
16:17
but I think it just goes to the
16:21
image because obviously Yeah,
16:21
having a big beard. It looks a
16:25
bit tough. A lot of our A lot of
16:25
us are covered in tattoos.
16:29  Wayne
So it does giving off
16:29
that image it's why
16:31
it's so important to tell people
16:31
that the charity work that they
16:34
do, isn't it that
16:35  Trev
exactly yeah, that that's
16:35
that's the thing as well, you
16:37
can never judge a book by its
16:37
cover. You know that some of the
16:40
nicest guys I've ever met in my
16:40
lifetime have a Bearded
16:43
Villains. Yeah. And some famous
16:43
people trip as well as Oh, yeah,
16:46
yeah, we've had some famous
16:46
people back in the you know, in
16:49
the times.
16:51  Trevor Deeley
Yeah, it's Yeah,
16:51
yeah, that's the thing. The
16:53
charity thing for me and our our
16:53
chaps. Most of our chaps is the
16:59
biggest thing it's just about
16:59
giving back
17:03  Wayne
Yes, that's the whole
17:03
thing it's like you know that
17:05
the respect of it to organize is
17:05
that organized on a regional
17:09
basis then trips or you're doing
17:09
charity work?
17:12  Trevor Deeley
Yeah, yeah. Yeah,
17:12
basically Yeah, we like to keep
17:14
obviously we would do it for any
17:14
kind of charity but we like to
17:18
sort of keep it because we use
17:18
an Essex chapter a while you
17:22
know, so we like to keep it a
17:22
bit more localized you know, but
17:25
it's up to up to there Bobby and
17:25
I've been involved with the
17:27
villains since 2017. Now is it
17:27
though it is yeah. 2017 there's
17:33
obviously various you're hopeful
17:33
first that you you become your
17:37
villain which is your your main
17:37
kind of rank and then you've got
17:42
like a member you've got a loyal
17:42
there they all come with it once
17:45
you've actually done certain
17:45
things in the club. I was lucky
17:49
enough to be offered the CO
17:49
Captain mantle as well. Then you
17:55
can get a scouts rank as well.
17:55
Would you if you scout enough
17:59
people to become a villain when
17:59
they become a strange when you
18:05
approach people and obviously
18:05
people will approach you as well
18:10
but weird when you sell you got
18:10
to live random stranger with a
18:13
card and sale. You know, you got
18:13
a cool beard fella. Take this.
18:18
This is like a card about
18:18
joining the big villains. And
18:21
they're like, what's that? And
18:21
he's like, because I think a lot
18:24
of people will see that all we
18:24
do is get together and sit there
18:29
and talk about beard oil.
18:32  Trev
Yeah, obviously you do
18:32
because you've got a cool beard.
18:36
There'll be like Oh god, what do
18:36
you use on that? And yeah, there
18:39
is a look. I mean,
18:39  Wayne
the world Trainspotting
18:39
society I'm sure they talk about
18:42
trains at some point I
18:45  Trevor Deeley
look at the
18:45
buffers on that.
18:49
That's the thing to the outside
18:49
world. I think people would find
18:54
it a bit strange but what
18:58  Wayne
I've been we've you when
18:58
you've scouted somebody before
19:00
when I think we've had quite a
19:00
few out non alcoholic beverages
19:05
and you approach somebody and he
19:05
was over the moon that day. I
19:09
think we know he's talking to us
19:09
all night. I don't remember now.
19:13  Trev
I think I think it's about
19:13
Dan. Yeah, yeah. dans in. Now,
19:17
yeah, cool
19:18  Wayne
. I mean, that's a couple
19:18
of years ago. Well got to be two
19:19
or three years ago.
19:20  Trev
Yeah, that was his Yeah,
19:20
yeah, Dan's got the most epic
19:23
beard you'll ever see. So you
19:23
don't have to have an amazing
19:26
beard. You know, as long as
19:26
you've got over the 40 mil and
19:30
stuff, then that's you know that
19:30
it it's not like a grooming
19:35
picky thing, but so that your
19:35
wives are involved as well.
19:38
Trevon. Are you allowed to some
19:38
of them? Yeah, we obviously not.
19:41
We've grown beards but there's
19:41
other sections as well. Some of
19:45
the girls are in the coins.
19:45
There's the villa nets as well.
19:48
They come to meet and staff what
19:48
was the difference between them
19:52
to the Queen's and basically the
19:52
Queen's most of the most of the
19:55
Queens that I the girls that are
19:55
married or partners have
19:59
Have a big villain. Yep. And the
19:59
villain so girls are just sort
20:03
of like, guys with the culture.
20:03
Yeah, exactly. So, yeah. Don't
20:08
get left out, which is good. And
20:08
now it's again. That's the whole
20:12
social side of
20:13  Wayne
it's quite inclusive,
20:13
isn't it?
20:14
Very much. So. Yeah, yeah. So
20:14
it's so true. So if somebody is
20:19
listening, they can't they can't
20:19
actively approach somebody who's
20:23
a villain for example, and with
20:23
a view to join in, could they
20:26
approach somebody and say, you
20:26
know, my beards 50 mil? I think
20:30
it's quite cool. I want to get
20:30
more I want I want to be social.
20:33
Im in essex
20:34
would
20:36  Trevor Deeley
have to be Yeah,
20:36
course you can. Yeah. Yeah. I
20:39
think what I was saying is you
20:39
can't just
20:42  Wayne
either sign up online and
20:42
just become a nun.
20:45  Trevor Deeley
No, there's got
20:45
to be a certain amount of
20:47
commitment. You can't just say,
20:47
Oh, I'm going to be a big
20:49
villain and start hash tagging
20:49
and live by the merge and stuff
20:53
like that.
20:56  Trev
Obviously, the charity
20:56
merch anyone can buy that we do.
20:59
Because obviously, it goes to
20:59
charity, but some of the rent
21:01
patches and stuff. You've got to
21:01
kind of earn
21:21
I don't know if obviously back
21:21
in donkey's years ago, there was
21:26
probably beard clubs. Yeah, that
21:26
existed because obviously
21:30
through the eons of time, people
21:30
have had beards and you know,
21:34
there probably was a thing but
21:34
yes, it took the village is the
21:38
biggest we come along and done
21:38
it better basically. Yeah. Yeah.
21:41
Very organized is very kind of
21:41
Yeah, he's very well run. You
21:46
know, it's not some sort of
21:46
flaky kind of get a newsletter
21:50
every six months and then don't
21:50
see one for another year.
21:53  Wayne
It's very, I mean, I've
21:53
seen that I've seen the
21:55
merchandise as well trev that
21:55
obviously you anywhere and it's
21:58
good.
21:59
It's good to be honest. It can
21:59
people can anyone buy the
22:02
merchandise? Well?
22:05  Trevor Deeley
Yeah, you can off
22:05
the site, the main site and
22:08
obviously the charity t shirts
22:08
we do. You could obviously buy
22:12
them but you don't really see
22:12
the point in in guys without a
22:17
beard wearing a bt villains t
22:17
shirt. No. It doesn't really
22:21
make sense. I wonder why I'd
22:21
never get one for Christmas.
22:23
Yeah, this is Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
22:23
I just keep your
22:28
one next year. Yeah, exactly.
22:28
But yeah, so I don't see the
22:33
side of that. But the charity
22:33
stuff and that. Yeah, yeah. Now
22:36
you could buy that because he's
22:36
obviously got a good cause. You
22:38
wouldn't want to stop exactly
22:38
charity, hybrid cancer charity.
22:44
Get in, you know, I say I'm just
22:44
partaking in like a 26 mile, run
22:49
a marathon in a month thing.
22:52  Trev
And yeah, I, you know, I'd
22:52
like to, obviously would include
22:55
that on on the essex bearded
22:55
villain site. Because again,
22:57
it's something else. Yeah, that
22:57
we're doing for the community is
23:01
a prostate cancer one. But yeah,
23:01
that's again, it's all about,
23:05
you find that once you get
23:05
involved with the charity work
23:08
through the villains, you tend
23:08
to kind of gravitate to doing it
23:12
off your own back as well, if
23:12
that cause sort of fits your
23:15
lifestyle, because I've done
23:15
quite a bit of a run now. And
23:17
again, that was the next thing.
23:21
No, it was Yeah, so yeah, yes.
23:21
You've been around it a little
23:25
bit with me. So you know what
23:25
it's about to a certain degree.
23:29  Wayne
I think it looks it looks
23:29
great. Yeah, it looks if I had a
23:32
beard. I'd want to be I'd want
23:32
to be a bearded villain. Yeah,
23:35
yeah. Yeah, we encourage people
23:35
to, to want to join.
23:40  Trevor Deeley
We have a quite a
23:40
few guys that have been in the
23:41
services that have joined up.
23:41
And as I as I said before,
23:46
earlier on in this conversation,
23:46
there's a lot of different
23:48
people in different walks of
23:48
life. There's policeman, there's
23:52
army guys, there's security
23:52
guys, every walk of life ever,
23:56
which is good, because it gives,
23:56
you know, because obviously, we
24:00
raised money that has to be
24:00
looked after. And obviously we
24:03
have to keep an eye on the tax
24:03
of stuff in there. So you know,
24:06
you've got people that are no
24:06
accountants or are accountants
24:11
that have you know, say, if
24:11
you've got a skill set, there's
24:14
always a way of using it in
24:14
Yeah, in the video villains, if
24:18
you notice, I use that stat
24:18
because I do a lot of the
24:21
merchandise for the sex guys.
24:21
Which is really cool. Sometimes
24:26
because obviously, I'm a bit
24:26
older than some of the guys so
24:29
my tastes might be a bit
24:29
different to what it is, but
24:32
again, we all have a vote on it
24:32
in the chat rooms and we all
24:35
kind of get together and yeah,
24:35
no, there's no kind of the thing
24:40
is that I said to you before,
24:40
it's all about getting out what
24:43
you put in and leaving your ego
24:43
behind. Yes. Yeah. No. Which is
24:48
the same about life anyway.
24:48
Yeah. It's like you leave your
24:51
ego at the door may and you're
24:51
enjoy enjoy the
24:54  Wayne
friendship,
24:54
relationships, you
24:56  Trevor Deeley
make a community
24:56
of it the Brotherhood. Yeah,
24:59
yeah, no ego involves doing some
24:59
good who know.
25:03  Wayne
Exactly. But is there a
25:03
demographic age trev? Really?
25:07
No, no not at all.
25:09  Trev
Some of some of the young
25:09
guys are in their early 20s and
25:13
even younger than that, I think
25:13
I don't know who the youngest
25:17
member of the Essex chapter are
25:17
is
25:21
early 20s and lacking I have not
25:21
the oldest star chapter marker
25:26
thank me for that he's a year
25:26
older than I was until Mark
25:29
joined which was good. Although
25:29
younger than Mark anyway, mom is
25:33
in many older ones. like middle
25:33
aged boys. Yeah, there's a few
25:37
guys a little bit older than me.
25:40  Trevor Deeley
age doesn't
25:40
really come into it.
25:44
per se, I'm really good friends
25:44
with all the guys and yeah, I'm
25:48
not even looked at. And again,
25:48
you get that kind of older uncle
25:52
figure. If that makes sense. It
25:52
becomes that when you socialize
25:56
with guys, there comes that odor
25:56
that just sort itself out if
26:01
that makes sense. impossibly
26:01
keeps me younger knocking about
26:05
these guys every now and again
26:05
having a few beers and learning
26:07
from them. And hopefully they
26:07
kind of learn from me. in other
26:11
ways.
26:12  Wayne
You're like the Master
26:12
Yoda no trophies. Well,
26:15  Trevor Deeley
no, no, no. Well,
26:15
yeah, I'll tell you that. Yoda.
26:19
Yoda vs. villains.
26:21  Trev
The wise one, you know,
26:21
why is one Well, yeah, that's
26:26
the thing. You know, we got guys
26:26
from all those age have
26:28
overstated that now, we should
26:28
have gotten sort of more nice
26:31
window or something.
26:41
We want to bring that we don't
26:41
want to be anyone from that one,
26:43
though.
26:45  Wayne
And also, remember, you
26:45
went to Miami some time ago, did
26:48
you meet up some guys there
26:49
you
26:49  Trev
wanted too. But again,
26:49
like, typical when you go on
26:53
holiday, I talked to a lot of
26:53
them. I spoke to a lot of Miami
26:56
guys before I went and they seem
26:56
quite happy with it. But like
26:59
anything when you go and you
26:59
think you're on a holiday. So
27:03
you've got all the time in the
27:03
world here. But you kind of
27:05
forget that some of the work.
27:05
They're working on your guy, you
27:10
want to go full on party on a
27:10
Tuesday night? Yeah. And they're
27:14
like, well, I've got to get up
27:14
for work in the morning fellow.
27:17
And a lot of the guys, one of
27:17
the guys from the Canadian
27:21
chapter come over a little while
27:21
ago, and a lot of the guys I
27:25
couldn't make that was doing
27:25
something else. But a lot of the
27:27
guys when I met him in London
27:27
and staff and made him really
27:30
I'm really good friends with him
27:30
through some of the
27:33
communications we've had, you
27:33
know, it's a very, very given
27:36
thing, you know, you're send
27:36
some of your patches over to
27:40
them, they'll send some of yours
27:40
over to you know, the whole kind
27:44
of the vibe like that, like
27:44
sharing is great. Yeah, that's,
27:48
that's a real positive for me.
27:48
It really is, you know, and
27:51
again, it helps in in everyday
27:51
life. You know, if a guy's like
27:55
a J, one of our guys is a
27:55
roofer. So, you know, if he will
27:59
say to, you know, an Algerian
27:59
good, only good roofers, and
28:03
obviously, you've met decent
28:03
guys through the villain, so
28:06
you'd be like yet more likely to
28:06
recommend them. Because you
28:08
know, those guys, of course, you
28:08
want somebody you can trust,
28:11
don't you? Yeah, exactly. So
28:11
there's no, I'm not saying it's
28:13
like the song masons. But you
28:13
know, you know, but you would do
28:17
that in your normal life. People
28:17
you be afraid that if you were
28:19
to go to first when you because
28:19
you sort of know them, you've
28:22
got to know them. And that is a
28:22
good thing. So yeah, in all
28:26
walks of life. It's it. You
28:26
know, that's how to, to get get
28:30
through it. I think that's a
28:30
definite that isn't building
28:33
bonds. That's the whole thing
28:33
that the bonding of it is great.
28:36
Yeah, the bonding. And what you
28:36
end up giving back is overrides
28:39
every other misconception that
28:39
says, Oh,
28:43  Wayne
yeah, definitely. I think
28:43
you've I think you've got that
28:46
across to be honest.
28:47  Trev
Hopefully, I think so.
28:47
Yeah, no, there's no, there's no
28:50
bad words to say about it at
28:50
all.
28:51  Wayne
If anyone's got any
28:51
preconceived ideas, which, you
28:54
know, we know that that happens,
28:54
because of the reasons we said
28:56
at the start of this, you know,
28:56
that hopefully, this has
28:58
dispelled that, and you can see
28:58
the good thing guys, yeah
29:02
, and as i say, if anybody wants
29:02
to get involved. Chuck us a
29:05
message on our website, I'll
29:05
answer it and point you in the
29:10
right direction. If you want to
29:10
join your local chapter, if you
29:12
got a beard long enough. I'll
29:12
put you in touch with the right
29:15
people. And then you can get on
29:15
the journey that I've enjoyed.
29:19
That's brilliant trev. No, sure
29:19
people would appreciate it.
29:22
Yeah, you can go to our website.
29:22
There's a blue badge on the
29:27
website homepage where you can
29:27
leave a voicemail throughyour
29:29
phone, or leave us a message.
29:29
You don't have to tie it. That's
29:32
how lazy, we've made it for you.
29:32
We like lazy.
29:45
But go to the website. Anyway.
29:45
There's plenty of information on
29:48
there. We'll put some pictures
29:48
of trevs beard on there. And if
29:53
they're already in there, it's
29:53
that I think you'll find it easy
29:55
enough. Yeah. But that's
29:55
definitely our website.
30:00
See that big word? It's
30:00
www.amlopodcast.com.
30:07
Everything's linked to that
30:07
we've got a blog on there. For
30:10
all the episodes, please get
30:10
involved. We want to give back
30:14
and basically leave us some
30:14
ideas what you'd like us to talk
30:17
about.
30:18  Trev
Thank you for the
30:18
opportunity of kind of getting
30:21
across what the villains is
30:21
about the bearded villain are
30:24
about.
30:24
I think you've done that trev.
30:25  Wayne
And I know how important
30:25
it is to you and the work. You
30:27
guys put in a big part of my
30:27
life. I hope people can take
30:30
from it now and say, take away
30:30
their preconceived ideas.
30:34  Trev
Because it's a world where
30:34
some was they were somewhere
30:37
where there was a meat going on.
30:37
They saw a lot of guys with toes
30:40
and big beards and patches on
30:40
their jackets and stuff. They
30:44
wouldn't think oh, boy, you
30:44
know?
30:46
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Now,
30:46
hopefully they don't hopefully,
30:49
I think No, no, that's, that's
30:49
those bearded villains that I
30:51
heard on the podcast. So you
30:51
know, they they're decent fellas
30:54
they? Yeah, yeah, that break.
30:54
preconceived ideas.
30:57  Wayne
That's that preconceived
30:57
idea. You have, I think you've
31:00
done that job. I'll say, I know.
31:00
Because I know you. I obviously
31:03
had the right idea about it.
31:03
Anyway? I see I'm doing it. So I
31:08
know that but yeah, I can see
31:08
why other people do you know, we
31:11
do these notions of people
31:11
looking a certain way.
31:15
You know, that there's somebody
31:15
recently, Trevor's basically
31:18
covered it all. But you if you
31:18
want to be involved, there's an
31:23
opportunity there to get spotted
31:23
and go through this probation.
31:27
And basically, which sounds like
31:27
fun in itself is, you know, if I
31:31
could grow one, I'd do it
31:31
myself.
31:33  Trev
Yeah, don't be scared of
31:33
the promotion, the
31:41
I'll get try to get across to a
31:41
lot of the lads and staff who
31:44
have joined and they're a bit
31:44
worried because they want to get
31:46
on with people and I want to do
31:46
this, I wanted to make it fun
31:50
first, and then it'll all click
31:50
into place. That's the whole
31:54
thing. Enjoy it first. Let it
31:54
come to you get yourself
31:58
involved. And then it will form
31:58
itself, but it did for me,
32:02
that's the thing.
32:04  Wayne
That's the whole thing.
32:04
Well, I think you can tell from
32:06
that the it's cool to be a
32:06
member of a beard club.
32:10
The British beard club. Any kind
32:10
of club owner Sure, we're
32:13
talking about different kinds of
32:13
clubs along the way, you know,
32:16
none of it's bad. You know, if
32:16
you're getting something from
32:19
it, it's always gonna be a
32:19
positive attitude from people
32:22  Trev
he does. Yeah, that's,
32:22
that's a big thing. I really
32:25
appreciate your input. And that
32:25
really does a good job in
32:29
promoting a positive I should
32:29
like to think that the guys
32:32
obviously think I've done a good
32:32
job of talking about it and
32:35
getting it across to the general
32:35
public who listen to this. You
32:39
know that Yeah,
32:40  Wayne
is there a website people
32:40
can go to for merchandise or
32:42
anything trivia if they have a
32:42
beard, obviously. Yeah.
32:46  Trevor Deeley
You got the main
32:46
beaded villain side. To me, the
32:48
best way to do it is check out
32:48
the main BD villain site, see
32:52
what it's all about? And then
32:52
IGA or Facebook? Perfectly I do
32:58
because Instagram, that seems to
32:58
be the way we work it a lot more
33:02
is scout where you are locally,
33:02
and find the scout or the
33:08
captain of the CO captain and
33:08
message them. So basically, on
33:11
our Instagram page, we've got
33:11
the links to who are the other
33:16
main guys in it. So if you
33:16
message them, they're pointing
33:19
the right direction aside, even
33:19
if you're a guy from Bristol or
33:24
something, and you've just
33:24
listened into this detail, I'll
33:27
approach because I know Trev
33:27
does this podcast. Go to him and
33:32
and I'll point you in the right
33:32
direction of where the guys from
33:35
Bristol who wants to join the
33:35
local BD villains. I'll put them
33:38
in touch with the guys now you
33:38
guys are
33:40  Wayne
very generous offer trev
33:40
Thank you.
33:43
That's brilliant. Thanks very
33:43
much for joining us on this
33:45
episode. It's been great again.
33:45
Excellent. And we'll see you on
33:49
the next one.
33:50  Trev
Yep, look forward to it.
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