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episode 7: UK Music Festivals - Ramblin Middle Aged Man [transcript]


Date: 21st February 2021

Name of show: A Midlife Less Ordinary

Episode title and number: Ramblin Middle-Aged Man   Se1Ep7

UK Music Festivals

 Brief summary of show:

Ramblin Middle-Aged Man is Wayne & Trev’s dissection of the UK Music festival scene. The title is paying homage to a now regular annual festival visit that Wayne & Trev enjoy which is the Ramblin Man festival held at Mote Park in Maidstone Kent. Wayne & Trev offer their unique insight into the Uk music festival scene and Trev reviews the top ten which is sure to offend some people in the4 nicest possible way.

 

Bullet points of key topics & time stamps:

Trev: 16:17 

·       Yeah, I was it through my levels. Yes, six days. I remember a guy from our eye level. College came with us as well, my brother, my cousin. And I remember like somebody peed on the back of my brother's jeans during cases set which was really, really fun.

 

Trev: 20:43 

·       just very quickly, before we carry on. I'll have to apologize if there's like a snoring or a buzzing sound or whatever you know, it's not me No, it's not it's actually my cat asleep next to me. It's not us actually falling asleep. live on air.


 
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 2021-02-21  38m
 
 
00:01  intro
You're listening to a mid
00:01
life less ordinary, the weekly
00:06
podcast giving you the lowdown
00:06
on becoming a cool older dude.
00:12
The good times are not a faded
00:12
memory. It's time to start
00:15
loving them again. And here are
00:15
your hosts Wayne and Trev
00:23  Wayne
Yeah, hello everyone and
00:23
welcome to another midlife less
00:26
ordinary. Whoa. got that right
00:26
this time. And I'm always Wayne
00:30
and Trev's here.
00:31  Trev
I'm bringing the noise
00:33  Wayne
you are a very noisy soul
00:33
. So this one. We are because
00:38
today we're doing an episode
00:38
entitled, rambling, middle aged
00:42
man. And this is basically a
00:42
festival that we attend mostly
00:49
most years, when it is on.
00:53
We've missed it this last year,
00:53
and we're hoping to
00:56  Trev
Yeah, they did get a lot
00:56
of the bands from last year to
01:00
play this year. But it doesn't
01:00
have to be on again. I don't
01:03
think it's not a shame because
01:03
some of our favorite bands are
01:06
playing their own by especially
01:06
is the first time that clutch
01:09
have ever headlined a big
01:09
festival, which would have been
01:13
nice. For so long, you know?
01:13
Exactly. Now it'd been about the
01:17
45th time I've seen hi
01:20  Wayne
talking enough. But yeah,
01:20
the ramblin man festival was one
01:23
we attend. Now we're going to
01:23
speak a bit about it as we go
01:26
through the episode. We've been
01:26
talking about festivals in
01:29
general Trevor's got a lot of
01:29
knowledge about festivals. He's
01:31
got a few more time he has been
01:31
to quite a few he's got the
01:34
knowledge about it. Lots of
01:34
things to be honest. But as you
01:37
can put. I'm thinking the next
01:37
Christmas already Trev. And
01:43
yeah, that tee shirt Exactly.
01:43
And so yeah, so we're going to
01:47
talk about festivals, which ones
01:47
are still great to go to when
01:49
you're in your middle age. Which
01:49
one's probably best.
01:54  Trev
They're all great to go to
01:54
because they're a nice break.
01:57
What What more do you want out
01:57
of life? Especially if the
02:01
weather is the whole crux of it,
02:01
though, isn't it? Yeah, I know
02:03
people can have a laugh in the
02:03
margin. So Gemma bear in it, but
02:08
really, there's nothing like
02:08
sitting there listening to music
02:12
with a beer in your hand on a
02:12
nice piece of grass. Is there.
02:16
Just one of the trees was that?
02:16
Yeah, exactly. Well, that one
02:21
too many might miss a few bands.
02:23  Wayne
I think we've already
02:23
given that one away.
02:28  Trev
But we've been there done
02:28
that one
02:29  Wayne
we'll come on to Ramblin
02:29
man, but we'll talk a bit about
02:31
gigs as well as we go through
02:31
because we're revelling country
02:36
apparently a quarter of all were
02:36
adults in this country go to
02:39
gigs and music festivals
02:39
regularly. So they would like to
02:42
roll around in the sunshine as
02:42
well. All right, yeah.
02:46  Trev
Yeah, would you festivals
02:46
and gigs are really bizarre
02:50
because I think people would
02:50
rather go to a festival because
02:54
that way they managed to see all
02:54
the bands or they'd see they
02:57
think they see all the bands
02:57
they want to see which I think
03:00
might be killing smaller gigs
03:00
slightly possibly if they tour
03:05
that I want Bob again to see
03:05
because they're probably play
03:07
Glastonbury they're probably
03:07
play download. So yeah, now I
03:11
don't think I know they the
03:11
bands take the festival as part
03:16
of the tour now. I don't know.
03:16
Yes. It's like one appearance.
03:19
He's actually like, you look a
03:19
band tour itinerary and he's got
03:22
a festival festival festival
03:22
small gigs small big festival
03:25
festival. I don't think that's
03:25
such a great idea. I've really
03:28
never used to be like that it
03:28
was just like one festival
03:31
appearance but in I'm talking
03:31
wedding
03:35
download which we talk about
03:35
very quickly as well. was called
03:39
the Monsters of Rock we only had
03:39
one stage and six bands on a
03:43
couple of DJs before they now
03:43
you've got six stages and
03:47
whatever Yeah, if they've
03:47
changed quite a bit well that's
03:50
it to us second biggest festival
03:50
in the UK if I if I run through
03:54
download is I run through the
03:54
top 10 areas number one it is
03:58
indeed Yeah, question number one
03:58
What was your take a quick take
04:02
on glastonbury Trev? Uh It's not
04:02
for me. I think he's very
04:07
corporate is very clean cleaning
04:07
on night you got the BBC
04:12
leaguers are there are they with
04:12
their lion and Rex in their
04:15
wellies? You know they Yeah,
04:15
it's not me. Don't get me wrong.
04:19
There's been some marvelous
04:19
bands play. Back in the day got
04:22
the poor, isn't
04:24
it? Yeah, the Beastie Boys
04:24
played it for him. He replied.
04:29
Metallica played it. And I
04:29
thought that was lame. To be
04:33
honest. I know. I'll upset a lot
04:33
of people. I just thought it was
04:37
like the whole thing about
04:37
having their fans behind them
04:41
really like what's that about?
04:41
Yeah, and, and again, you got
04:47
bands I've made that said they'd
04:47
never play it because of what it
04:50
is. And I can understand that.
04:50
Don't get me wrong. I shouldn't
04:55
say because I've never been so
04:55
people will say Oh, you don't
04:58
know because you haven't been
04:58
but it's you The look of it and
05:01
that kind of stuff. The mods are
05:04  Wayne
perfect. Yeah,
05:05  Trev
no, you're wrong. I'm ever
05:05
seeing my head on there. They
05:07
were brilliant. But then Lemmy
05:07
could fall and I think he was
05:10
brilliant. Now for Oh boy, but I
05:10
think that was heartbreaking
05:14
watching Motorhead on there
05:14
because they interviewed me. I
05:17
think he's one of the last
05:17
interviews he did, because I
05:20
take them on a tour before he
05:20
passed away. And I sat there and
05:26
watched him and interviewed
05:26
before they performed at
05:29
Glastonbury. And it was like,
05:29
there was an old PR they're just
05:34
taking a person have an old
05:34
people's home and dressed up in
05:37
a Lemmy week and Mira sunglasses
05:37
and put a mole on him. It broke
05:45
my heart watching it, you know,
05:45
we've all got to get hold and
05:48
but it just broke my high. I
05:48
remember Metallica doing a
05:50
birthday thing for him at the
05:50
Whisky a Go Go, I think Yeah.
05:54
And basically they dressed up as
05:54
the four lemons and played
05:57
Motorhead tunes all night and
05:57
they This is what it looked like
06:01
but it looked like an old it
06:01
looked like Ralph C. Nesbitt in
06:05
like alemi gear it was just I
06:05
just kind of but they were
06:08
brilliant when they applied and
06:08
I use in my head with a seven
06:11
year kind of times and I've
06:11
always loved them they're just
06:15
they're not even heavy metal
06:15
they're just rock and roll heavy
06:18
rock and roll they're not a band
06:18
on their own but yeah that's and
06:22
you get such a diverse crowd
06:22
from out here but you can see
06:26
him yeah as well don't even get
06:26
punk say you got people that
06:29
necessarily don't go any gigs. I
06:29
just got a motor
06:31  Wayne
would they be appreciated
06:31
at Glastonbury bought a crowd
06:33
that team so
06:34  Trev
Yeah, I know. I know they
06:34
play because obviously Dave
06:37
Grohl was a massive, big fan of
06:37
Motorhead and really good
06:40
friends with Liam you know, they
06:40
played I think Hyde Park with
06:43
the so fires. Which I thought
06:43
was really great Dave Grohl to
06:47
do that to have Motorhead on
06:47
that bill? Yeah, and I think
06:50
they went down because everybody
06:50
knows the ace of spades doesn't
06:53
matter if you have just bought
06:53
the last Foo Fighters album or
06:57
you've just like, bought a dance
06:57
album. As soon as they play Ace
07:02
of Spades people know it. And
07:02
probably the best performance of
07:05
Ace of Spades to me was when he
07:05
was on the young ones. Yeah, it
07:08
was just cold when I was a kid.
07:08
I remember seeing it. And it
07:11
wasn't a classic three lineup,
07:11
but it was so good. It was live.
07:14
So things should go together.
07:14
He's Motorhead and the young
07:17
ones TV show. Yeah. But yeah,
07:17
getting back to gigs and stuff.
07:23  Wayne
But we've just run
07:23
through them because obviously
07:24
download festivals number to
07:24
that as 110,000 capacity. And
07:28
you've been up in quite a few
07:28
we've been we've been to 70
07:31
Yeah, big movie was really
07:31
enjoyed it. Lucky. We had the
07:33
good weather. Yeah, we did it.
07:33
Yeah. And we just kept playing
07:39
Lynyrd Skynyrd on your watch.
07:39
What's the correct name for a
07:44
tape recorder? these towers
07:44
gonna call?
07:45  Trev
sonic boom box.
07:47  Wayne
boom box. Yeah, Rick was
07:47
playing it over and over. No,
07:49
everyone loved it. We just
07:51  Trev
did. We just kept running
07:51
out of batteries all the time.
07:56
And we played a run out all the
07:56
time and a bunch of country
08:01
redneck.
08:01  Wayne
I mean, I think old so
08:01
many years ago, when I think
08:03
about that was I think that was
08:03
2006. It wasn't that long ago.
08:07
But he's so I think we
08:10  Unknown
do. But yeah, exactly.
08:10
That's,
08:12  Wayne
you know that.
08:13  Trev
That was one of the
08:13
grossest things. I when I was
08:15
dancing, that guy's sick when I
08:15
would
08:18  Wayne
actually like to show you
08:18
if people want it, but maybe
08:21
that gets funny in it. But yeah,
08:21
second biggest 110,000 capacity
08:25
then the next one. Everyone
08:25
knows v festival. You should
08:29
take
08:32  Trev
the time. Yeah, I've been
08:32
there quite a few times. I tend
08:36
to the best bet I saw there was
08:36
probably back. All right. Okay.
08:39
Wait, like where it's at? Yeah,
08:39
yeah. two turntables and a
08:42
microphone. There was Heck, I've
08:42
always liked him. But they he
08:45
was really good. He pretty
08:45
performed and he had like a
08:47
horse's head when rubbing his
08:47
head. It was just really Yeah, I
08:52
saw the chili peppers. They I'd
08:52
seen him quite a few times as
08:55
well back in the day. in smaller
08:55
venues when they weren't the
08:58
supergroup, they were they are
08:58
now and they were dreadful.
09:03
Absolutely my opinion. People
09:03
loved him. But I just thought
09:06
they were dreadful. We're just
09:06
not really lying. But
09:09  Wayne
I didn't know you'd gone
09:09
to the festival to be fair. So a
09:12
few times usually associated
09:12
with the kind of pop culture go
09:15
into.
09:16  Trev
Yeah, it wasn't no at one
09:16
point. It was kind of a bit more
09:20
diverse then especially some of
09:20
our back play and I think the
09:23
five increment was played that
09:23
year, who was good. And then all
09:27
of a sudden it's become a bit
09:27
like steps for unionism.
09:31  Wayne
steps again, a hard time
09:31
on the show.
09:39
First of all, the next one is
09:39
the Reading and Leeds festival
09:42
85,000 capacity
09:43  Trev
up in a reading times.
09:43
Anyone have no reading yet? Oh,
09:47
cool. Yeah, they were great.
09:47
trying to think of interleaves a
09:51
tumor. Now I know they sound
09:51
festival and I just change it
09:54
rotate the days only. So the
09:54
people that apply ready in one
09:58
day will probably lose the day
09:58
before They just wrote it is the
10:01
same lineup. Yeah. And I lost it
10:01
in with live there and stuff.
10:03
But yeah, that is a good
10:03
festival, a bit more indie
10:06
based, but they still have a few
10:06
rock bands on there, which is
10:09
good.
10:09  Wayne
And the next one, Trevor,
10:09
I think this is saying we
10:11
probably would have gone to if
10:11
we thought about it, but in a
10:14
kind of diverse way. Yo
10:14
Creamfields.
10:17  Trev
Yes. Quite dance, isn't
10:17
it? Yeah. And I mean, knew quite
10:20
a bit about faceless. faceless,
10:20
like a fixed twin. That kind of
10:25
thing. province. Yeah. Yeah.
10:25
Yeah. You know, I don't know, I
10:29
sort of skim the top of dance
10:29
music Really? But I do like to
10:33
do stew license.
10:34  Wayne
I'd go to that. If it
10:34
were would have gone to that.
10:37  Unknown
Do you think do you
10:37
think?
10:39  Wayne
I don't know. I probably
10:39
would regret it. But I but I'd
10:42
go just would you?
10:44  Trev
Would you run your eyes
10:44
and not flowers in your head?
10:47  Wayne
Well, you know, that's
10:47
just a normal weekend for me,
10:49
but I've seen that. Yeah. But I
10:49
just I think it's because I
10:54
haven't been I just feel like it
10:54
would be nice to
10:57  Trev
want to take off. Yeah,
10:57
take off. Yes, exactly. It's
11:00  Wayne
not gonna happen. Let's
11:00
be honest. But 70,000 capacity
11:02
there. Next one. I don't think
11:02
any of us have been to I
11:05
definitely haven't. I love Wight
11:05
Festival. 58
11:09  Trev
It seems like a real pain
11:09
to get to know people or be it
11:13
just seemed like a real pain.
11:13
And I really don't there's a
11:16
very good lineup don't Yeah,
11:16
yeah, it is. There's a really
11:19
great heavy rock festival in
11:19
France called hell fest. And I'd
11:23
love to go and I've got loads of
11:23
guys that have been and that is
11:27
brilliant. They cover every
11:27
genre of hard rock but it's a
11:30
it's a real pain to get to you
11:30
especially our age you think?
11:34
No, no, no, no, thank you very
11:34
much.
11:36  Wayne
Well, yeah, because you
11:36
have to sort with Well, we'll
11:38
talk about that in a minute but
11:38
the accommodation side of things
11:41
but next next one on the list
11:41
50,000 attendance This is still
11:46
big numbers.
11:47  Unknown
Yeah
11:48  Wayne
Boomtown.
11:50  Trev
I've heard of the I don't
11:50
know if he I don't
11:53
know if anybody if anybody don't
11:53
know about it. Let us know if
11:56
you've been to the microphone
11:56
and Tell me Tell us about it.
11:59
Yeah, we don't we don't bother
11:59
researching on this show. We
12:02
just we don't own our audiences
12:02
the research. Yes, exactly.
12:06
Yeah. Leave they leave a message
12:06
wireless festival Trev. 49,000
12:11
capacity. Do you know anything
12:11
about again, that's face? I
12:14
think that's very sad. I've
12:14
heard of it again. It is very
12:16
similar to sort of reading isn't
12:16
it wireless? Is it from what I
12:19
understand? Yeah, I think Yeah.
12:19
And to go stereo phonics, kind
12:23
of. Yeah. And oh, my neck to be
12:23
fair.
12:29  Wayne
And then then at number
12:29
nine, we've got the latitude
12:32
festival with 35,000 capacity. I
12:33  Trev
know a bit about that,
12:33
because I'm friends of mine go
12:36
every year and not gonna upset.
12:36
No, no, no. One of the guys john
12:43
does listen to us. He He told me
12:43
the story that when he got there
12:47
one year, he was saying how kind
12:47
of nice he is because there was
12:51
like a white rose supermarket
12:51
truck in the carpark they were
12:55
like an old burger van there was
12:55
a different cheeses and stuff.
13:01  Wayne
There's like middle class
13:01
middle age.
13:05  Trev
Yeah, they have some
13:06  Wayne
sort of thing moved to a
13:06
public middle class now. chimney
13:11
sweeps and
13:13  Trev
rock and roll easy. No, to
13:13
be honest, standing there with
13:16
your kind of cookie all your
13:16
different achievements
13:19
achievable. Yeah, if you choose
13:19
your small group. That's a good
13:24
name. That's a good name for
13:24
something. Rock, your rock and
13:29
roll smorgasbord. Could be a
13:29
good good compilation.
13:33  Wayne
Writing that one down
13:33
now. character from Lord of the
13:40
Rings but
13:41  Trev
a smorgasbord.
13:45  Wayne
We've got Bestival. I
13:45
don't know that it's all 35.
13:48
Okay,
13:48  Trev
I know the know that name.
13:48
And I've heard of it. I've
13:52
probably flipped through the
13:52
lineup. And so that's not for
13:55
me.
13:57  Wayne
Exactly. Yeah. So again,
13:57
if anybody knows anything about
14:00
it, let us know your message.
14:00
Let us know. And so yeah, that's
14:03
that's your top 10 we I know
14:03
you've been attending your first
14:07
festival Trev.
14:10  Trev
It was done into Monsters
14:10
of Rock are really ready to go
14:14
the year. Metallica played
14:14
master puppets and stuff. I've
14:19
met my brother guy in 1984 and
14:19
Van Halen play it for you and I
14:23
was just when you refer to the I
14:23
didn't go there and I was 13
14:25
that I really wanted to my mom
14:25
was like now my brother wouldn't
14:27
take me because I've been a bird
14:27
and he just time. You didn't
14:31
drink? Did you? No, no, no, not
14:31
have rhiwbina. I really wanted
14:36
to see Van Halen. My lucky
14:36
enough. I did see Van Halen but
14:39
back in the day, but not with
14:39
Dave Lee Roth. And then I really
14:44
wanted to go the year that
14:44
Metallica play with Dr. And
14:48
staff. That was a really big
14:48
again my brother didn't go
14:53
there. First year I went was the
14:53
year that two people were
14:56
tragically killed during Guns
14:56
and Roses. That was mental
14:59
absolutely made 140 there was
14:59
127,000 people there. I made
15:05
headlines and they were
15:05
brilliant. Yeah. Those are the
15:07
days where I'd actually stay and
15:07
watch a headline act because you
15:11
had to come home by coach and
15:11
the coach would finish at 12.
15:15
And you get back to the coach
15:15
and because it was so many
15:17
coaches pointed out, you
15:17
wouldn't lay there to apply to
15:20
in the morning. So you'd get
15:20
back at six. It was like a full
15:23
24 hour day. Sort of 12 hour
15:23
day. Now basically what happened
15:28
Pete was so excited to see Guns
15:28
and Roses play that year. And I
15:32
remember I was queuing up trying
15:32
to get a Guns and Roses t shirt,
15:35
and all the cross the other
15:35
cover the cross kind of thing.
15:39
It's sold out across schools, I
15:39
really wanted one. And I got a
15:42
really crappy one to be honest
15:42
in the end, but I remember like
15:45
them warning people, because
15:45
there was just a surge you were
15:48
standing like the merchant and
15:48
they were just like, people
15:51
running to the front. And you
15:51
could see something was gonna go
15:55
on. And I remember Axl Rose
15:55
saying like, could you please
15:58
push back because it was just
15:58
mental. Then we heard later on
16:01
the two people have been
16:01
tragically tremble so yeah, so
16:05
that's awful. That was the first
16:05
one I went to that it was a real
16:11
education and labor case playing
16:11
their
16:14  Wayne
bets 1516
16:17  Trev
Yeah, I was it through my
16:17
levels. Yes, six days. I
16:20
remember a guy from our eye
16:20
level. College came with us as
16:25
well, my brother, my cousin. And
16:25
I remember like somebody peed on
16:29
the back of my brother's jeans
16:29
during cases set which was
16:32
really, really fun. No, neither
16:32
one of the guys who listens to
16:35
this poor guy. They would throw
16:35
stuff at anybody and like he got
16:40
an umbrella in the back of his
16:40
neck. really painful. But they
16:44
were just team bottles and just
16:44
lobby Toby event did the
16:47
comparing the DJ god bless you
16:47
so another great DJ fella, but
16:53
he actually won American
16:53
football helmet when he was
16:55
introducing the bands because
16:55
they were so busy chucking
16:58
rubbish at it. It was just meant
16:58
to be a fight the balls were
17:02
just mental. That's that that's
17:02
my kind shall reside in memories
17:05  Unknown
of it was
17:06  Trev
also Yeah, there was also
17:06
some really last smaller ones
17:10
that Milton Keynes Metallica on
17:10
the big day outs and stuff. They
17:13
were really good. Because again,
17:13
that was the start of law three
17:15
or four stages. So I remember
17:15
like seeing in tuned, monster
17:18
magnet blacklight was OSI on a
17:18
smaller stage. And it was really
17:22
kind of Yeah, that was really
17:22
good. Yeah, that was great. So
17:25  Wayne
the monsters monsters a
17:25
rock that became more spaced is
17:29
that right
17:29  Unknown
now that'd be a become
17:29
download
17:32  Wayne
for monsters rock get to
17:32
what was so space sorry. For my
17:36
confusion space was an American
17:37  Trev
one. It did come over here
17:37
a couple of times. I think. I
17:41
think I saw I might be that
17:41
might have been tired of
17:44
planning pentair I'm sure I went
17:44
to Wimbledon to see something
17:47
like a similar thought thing
17:47
called oz like similar to Las
17:49
Vegas. But that was mainly an
17:49
Americans one, which was huge, I
17:55
think really, always made
17:55
slipknot. Slipknot played it
17:59
when they first came out with
17:59
the orange boiler suits. And it
18:02
was just that made them I was
18:02
actually in the HMV for Slipknot
18:07
signing session. I didn't know
18:07
they were signing because I
18:09
don't dislike and been overly
18:09
keen. I've seen him quite a few
18:12
times. But honestly, I was just
18:12
spying. I was actually buying
18:16
Alabama Thunder procedures was a
18:16
great, heavy Southern rock band.
18:21
And basically, there was just
18:21
this huge surge of people like
18:26
kids and stuff. And I was just
18:26
standing next door where
18:29
Slipknot came out in their gear
18:29
on us. It was just carnage. It
18:33
was just a kid Friday. So it was
18:33
it was mental. It was really
18:37
funny. Yeah.
18:39  Wayne
I know. They used to
18:39
attract attention.
18:42  Trev
Yeah, but he was quite
18:42
fresh, then. You know, I can
18:45
understand why people would love
18:45
him. You know? Yeah, of course
18:47
you do. But I just don't
18:47
understand them life because
18:51
there's so many of them. They
18:51
come across all the Keystone
18:53
cops. All the time. That guy
18:53
doing he's just banging a cup of
18:57
dustbins. I don't really know
18:57
what he's doing. Because when I
19:00
saw that, yeah, when I saw them
19:00
once. It was the probably the
19:05
I've never seen you say a lot of
19:05
people as you know when you've
19:08
been to gigs and stuff. You see
19:08
people in a right state done?
19:11
Yeah, yes. really drunk.
19:12  Wayne
Yeah, it's like the only
19:12
time they've gone
19:14  Trev
out all year. You know,
19:14
I've never seen people so drunk
19:17
that the slipknot gig I went to
19:17
Hammersmith Odeon. It was just
19:22
mental. It's a more younger
19:22
generation, isn't it? So I
19:24
applied with them. They were
19:24
trying to cross you know, really
19:27
good, like big zondra. And I
19:27
actually saw some bloke have a
19:31
crap outside of the boiler.
19:31
Yeah, exactly. And then get up
19:36
because he had the same
19:36
testaments. He showed me. Nobody
19:39
on them. I remember seeing it
19:39
and I thought he just missed the
19:41
bowl there. But he just crapped
19:41
on the floor. It was all for me.
19:45  Wayne
This is this is the thing
19:45
about festivals and this is why
19:48
now I'll say we're middle class
19:48
kind of Waitrose purveyors. Now
19:53
we refuse to stay in the tents
19:53
Now don't worry when we go too
19:56
fast
19:57  Trev
because never get the
19:57
smell of a chemical I love your
20:00
nostrils for my festival. It
20:00
just stays with you forever. And
20:05
there's people on your team.
20:05
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Poor people
20:10
get there first. put their tent
20:10
on the top of the hill near the
20:15
water tap. And then people just
20:15
leave the water tap on so there
20:19
is just so slowing down on the
20:19
hour or two near the toilets now
20:24
that's good.
20:27  Wayne
So we tend to now be in
20:27
the middle club. What tends to
20:31
happen now is we turn up we
20:31
booked our hotel about a year in
20:33
advance, don't we? And we turn.
20:33
I think we're a couple or
20:37
something because there's a
20:37
single bed and then the room
20:39
isn't there on the thing. I've
20:39
done it. I think you do that on
20:41
purpose to be honest. drivi just
20:41
want to share
20:43  Trev
just very quickly, before
20:43
we carry on. I'll have to
20:46
apologize if there's like a
20:46
snoring or a buzzing sound or
20:49
whatever you know, it's not me
20:49
No, it's not it's actually my
20:53
cat asleep next to me. It's not
20:53
us actually falling asleep. live
20:57
on air. It's just my cat is
20:57
absolutely sound out he purrs
21:01
like a jet engine. If you saw
21:01
the size of it, you can see
21:04
understand why it makes it on
21:04
the couch. shows you the size is
21:08
more like a lion. Like if we put
21:08
a picture of him on the website.
21:12
Definitely. Yeah, I do know the
21:12
snoring not. Yes.
21:17  Wayne
No, no just said I know,
21:17
you've sort of diverted away
21:20
from because I'll just send it.
21:20
I leave all the booking
21:22
arrangements to your good self.
21:22
And when we turn we turn up at
21:25
hotels now instead of obviously
21:25
staying in tents. And when we
21:28
turn that as a single bed
21:29  Trev
and breakfast.
21:32  Wayne
We sleep in the same
21:32
face. Hair anymore. I don't 20
21:36
years ago,
21:37  Trev
what I love about what I
21:37
love is normally you get up
21:43
first or you wake up first. And
21:43
I hate it. Oh, that typical
21:48
middle aged lay in there. And I
21:48
just look at you and you're just
21:51
leaning forward. Honestly, that
21:51
is the
21:58  Wayne
most the best way to wake
21:58
up to
22:00  Trev
when you're drinking
22:00
partly in body or in something
22:04
terrible because for some reason
22:04
I don't know why but mean you
22:08
hardly ever eat festivals now
22:08
who don't want to sing you can
22:11
do in a minute, we're getting
22:11
huge, I can't be bothered now
22:16
can't be bothered. By the time
22:16
we think about it. They've
22:19
either sharp or they've run out
22:19
of everything. We're rolling
22:22
around in the grass. As we said
22:22
yesterday, yeah, that leads to
22:25
that feeling of leaning forward
22:25
in a bed sharing it with another
22:30
nine year old man.
22:34  Wayne
And I'm so old now I
22:34
don't care. You know, as I say,
22:37
You know my I don't know my
22:37
dignity is gone a long time ago.
22:41
I'm not I think all
22:42  Unknown
you do is not brush
22:42
your teeth. Do you do your hair
22:45
in the road or brush your teeth.
22:45
It's just sort of like
22:48  Wayne
a bomb in it and you're
22:48
not brushing it I just want to
22:50
get home and have a shower and
22:50
just get like get some sleep and
22:53
proper sleep because by the time
22:53
we get out or back to the hotel,
22:56
it's not three o'clock. And I
22:56
mean it's better than standing
22:59
the tent. I mean, I would still
22:59
do it if there was a two days at
23:01
a festival and it's so
23:01
interesting.
23:04  Trev
Yeah, is we leave the site
23:04
lions and try get a taxi. Don't
23:10
get back to
23:11  Wayne
you try that. And
23:12  Trev
we'll what yeah, we always
23:12
end up sharing it with some poor
23:15
couple walk. They must think
23:15
what have we done here? should
23:20
just pay for on our own. These
23:20
two idiots are rolling in the
23:24
back talking absolute nonsense.
23:24
Yeah, whoever if anybody's
23:28
listening, that we've ever done
23:28
that, too. We do apologize
23:33
because it must be it must have
23:33
just
23:36
I think they would have been
23:36
offended by it. Or you must just
23:40
ignore them. I don't think we
23:40
even get like that when we drove
23:43
to be fair, but you know, I can
23:43
see what you mean. I know what
23:45
you mean. Yeah, you get in a
23:45
taxi show. And then where's in
23:48
the back talking like we were
23:48
doing now? Did I say a different
23:51
language? But yeah, so one of
23:51
the biggest, biggest things for
23:56
me festival wise the biggest
23:56
letdown is how especially at the
23:59
kind of more middle aged ones
23:59
like rambley men and black deer.
24:02
And if they're listening, please
24:02
take note is how bad the
24:07
merchandise is. Oh, go grab it.
24:07
There's no thought gone into it
24:11
or anything. It's just all I
24:11
seem to think of is middle age.
24:15
Rock fans over want something
24:15
really offensive on the back?
24:19
Really? Do you really want to be
24:19
like that at 4546 and a half
24:23
swearing on the back? ZZ Top.
24:23
We're really guilty of that when
24:26
I saw them a couple of years
24:26
back. And I was like, what why
24:31
do you have to? Or it's like a
24:31
really generic design on the
24:35
front. Like a kind of guitar
24:35
with wings on a look a bit kind
24:40
of biker Sons of Anarchy. Yeah,
24:40
and you're like, now they just
24:44
they just need a bit more
24:44
thought going into a little bit
24:47
more thought on the design make
24:47
it a bit more because you like
24:50
the merchandise Trev and who you
24:50
like to remind you the shirts
24:54
Yeah, I still wear that kind of
24:54
stuff. Not not all the time
24:57
because I remember when I was
24:57
young. I used to think
24:59
I don't know what I'm gonna wear
24:59
when I get over 30 because I
25:02
just went ban seizures all the
25:02
time. I still wear some of the
25:05
older ones and like, you know, I
25:05
still wear a D o t shirt or a
25:08
Motorhead one. But yeah,
25:08
honestly that you've been,
25:12
you've said that we just we
25:12
always do the same thing. We
25:15
walk up to the merch, look at it
25:15
and go. That's Robert.
25:20  Wayne
Yeah, yeah, Bradley man's
25:20
a great fit. If you're our age,
25:25
you know, so yeah, between 40
25:25
and
25:27  Trev
100, HDMI and VGA is
25:27
designed for people of our age.
25:31
I think there are younger people
25:31
there. Yeah. But then how many
25:35
younger people know who focus on
25:35
this, you're really into it or
25:40
like Magnum. Exactly.
25:42  Wayne
You're much more reliant
25:42
on somewhere like download, you
25:44
can still go to download, but
25:44
you've got to see what you can
25:47
do.
25:49  Trev
If you don't want to step
25:49
over 16 year old
25:54  Wayne
man supposed to be
25:55  Trev
rambley man is the place
25:55
to be black deer was good.
25:57
Wasn't it? Brilliant. I really
25:57
enjoyed it. It was kind of
26:01
country country. But then
26:01
obviously, we were quite spoiled
26:06
because they had the sort of
26:06
stoner rock stage there as well.
26:08
Good. And I'd ever figure down a
26:08
rock band.
26:10  Unknown
I was definitely
26:11  Wayne
there because I like a
26:11
lot of that. Don't a lot of sort
26:14
of stoners. Yeah. And that that
26:14
was really good as well that we
26:18
stayed there most of the night,
26:18
didn't we? Yeah, we might as
26:21
well have stayed there. To be
26:21
honest. I think we left about
26:23
four o'clock in the morning or
26:23
something. But I think we did.
26:25
Yeah, we did. But on that note
26:25
Trev, I think I just want to
26:29
while I still got the chance to
26:29
until you spin it round. I think
26:32
I'd like to do a testing Trev.
26:32
Yeah, go for?
26:37  Trev
Yes. So sending out the PA
26:37
was a bit muddled there.
26:42  Wayne
Did you have technical
26:42
issues? Again?
26:45  Trev
Yeah, exactly. You don't
26:45
you don't need to hire him
26:47
again.
26:48  Wayne
I'm not it's not my
26:48
forte. And so I'm gonna ask you
26:51
four questions on download. I
26:51
know that you not necessarily
26:54
been there on these occasions.
26:54
But I'll give you multiple
26:57
choice. Just a bit of fun,
26:57
inform some of the people some
27:01
of the things that have gone on,
27:01
so yeah, number one, who was
27:04
missing that downloaded 2004.
27:04
Was it Dave Lombardo, Danny
27:09
filth. Joey jordison or Lars
27:09
Ulrich?
27:15  Trev
nazarick because Jerry
27:15
Jordans and played with
27:17
Metallica.
27:18  Wayne
And you are? Well done.
27:18
Lars Ulrich from Metallica was
27:25
rushed into hospital, and
27:25
drummers Dave Lombardo and Joey
27:29
jordison. Among others stepped
27:29
in to tell us that
27:34  Trev
actually, I think jerry
27:34
jones actually won the slipknot
27:36
maker, as well. I played with
27:36
Metallica in
27:39  Wayne
extra value here. Yeah.
27:39
Number two trif. Who did Chino
27:44
Marino join on stage at download
27:44
in 2010? Was it Rage Against the
27:48
Machine? Stone Temple Pilots
27:48
stone set? I don't expect you to
27:53
get a stone sour of 30 Seconds
27:53
to Mars.
27:59  Trev
It's either just called me
27:59
Rage Against the Machine. 30
28:08
Seconds to Mars in it.
28:09  Wayne
Yeah. And you can't give
28:09
it to me. You cannot.
28:14
The Act is bad, isn't it? Yeah.
28:14
recommend for a letter. Oh,
28:19
yeah. Jared letter letter Fight
28:19
Club.
28:21  Unknown
And the most
28:21
entertaining thing with him was
28:23
when he got beaten up in Fight
28:23
Club, his angel.
28:32  Wayne
Next question, who's
28:32
spoken word woke up download
28:35
festival goers in 2005. Was it
28:35
Henry Rollins, Chris Rock, Bill
28:41
Bailey, or Russell Howard? Who's
28:41
spoken word woke up download in
28:47
2005.
28:49  Trev
Ron Rollins does folk and
28:49
works. I've watched a lot of
28:51
them and I've really liked him.
28:53  Wayne
What do we say? your gut?
28:53
Like?
28:56  Unknown
Yeah, yeah. But then
28:56
bill Bailey.
28:58  Wayne
He went dancing on it.
28:58
Did
29:01  Trev
he? I thought he was
29:01
split. You don't look at it. You
29:09
know? Everyone is so good word.
29:14  Wayne
It's right. It's right.
29:16  Trev
Because bill Bailey is
29:16
more of a comedian exactly say
29:19
comedy act or anything. So
29:20  Wayne
Roland. Yeah. Rollins.
29:20
Rollins did a comedy set on the
29:22
Napster stage in 2005.
29:24  Trev
Yeah, he's great.
29:24
Definitely YouTube your mind one
29:28
is very
29:29  Wayne
good at adding value
29:29
again true. And number four, and
29:32
the last but not least, which of
29:32
these film stars were at
29:35
download? 2006 and we were there
29:35
but not all we saw was it a jack
29:41
black be Brad Pitt see Will
29:41
Smith or D Tom Hanks?
29:52
jack black Brad Pitt Will Smith
29:52
and Tom Hanks. I cannot confirm
29:57
we didn't see him when we were
29:57
there.
30:00  Unknown
Got instinct will say
30:00
Will Smith
30:02  Wayne
is that you were going
30:02
with
30:04  Unknown
yeah
30:07
he knew that yeah
30:14  Wayne
remember remember you
30:14
bumped into him in the chemical
30:17
toilet didn't you?
30:19  Unknown
Did Yeah. man bought me
30:19
a drink well
30:22  Wayne
i think it was more of a
30:22
George Michael situation
30:24  Trev
yeah yes stay fresh as I
30:24
said
30:29  Wayne
with Smith was at the
30:29
stage so I did to download 2006
30:32
watching his wife's band wicked
30:32
wisdom
30:35  Trev
that's it and they were
30:35
terrible. Did you see him? That
30:39
yeah we I think we did I
30:39
probably did Bernie Smith when
30:42
they were just terrible. Yeah. I
30:42
think what is that is Lincoln
30:46
Park.
30:46  Wayne
Oh, thanks for that I
30:46
really enjoyed that made my way
30:48
to the front to the subject,
30:48
right going back to the
30:54
festivals for now. So yeah, the
30:54
ramblin man great if you like
30:59
your rock music is sort of 70s
30:59
progressive rock and everything
31:02
else that that's one of the
31:02
different stages in our in
31:05
Maidstone. Isn't it? mote Park
31:05
and yeah, hopefully it will be
31:10
on in 2021 pretty well
31:11  Trev
set up as well, isn't it?
31:11
Yeah,
31:13  Wayne
it's not. It's not
31:13
crowded either. Is it? You
31:16  Trev
know, you can tell how
31:16
much they sort of trust older
31:19
people because not to drop their
31:19
security. But that kind of lacks
31:23
when they let you in on
31:25  Wayne
there's gonna be a load
31:25
of people with swag bags on this
31:28
year.
31:29  Trev
Because I remember one
31:29
year ago in a wedding in one of
31:32
my mates, campers there was all
31:32
six of us and they virtually
31:35
ripped it apart. Yeah, they were
31:35
so dead. I
31:38  Wayne
don't do anything.
31:40  Trev
Yeah, ramblin man was just
31:40
like, oh, Lacey Nicole. is
31:45
brilliant. We loved it.
31:47  Wayne
And the black deer
31:47
festival similar kind of thing
31:50
that he told bit more security
31:50
when it but
31:52  Trev
yeah, it's certainly
31:52
wrong. All festivals are cold.
31:56
But if you want ones that are
31:56
more suited to our age group,
32:01
then those two and possibly
32:01
latitude I would have thought
32:06
yes a lot more. So you'd you
32:06
know go to download, enjoy
32:09
yourself, take your kids at that
32:09
generation thing. Wonderful. But
32:14
be prepared. It's messy. You
32:14
know, where you don't get these
32:18
kind of middle aged like selling
32:18
shops and they're not fun
32:24
because they really are but
32:24
that's my advice I if we're
32:29
gonna if we're going to put them
32:29
in the box of call if so was our
32:32
call today I suppose if we're
32:32
going to say that
32:34  Wayne
the weather The weather
32:34
is very important and you can't
32:36
predict nice country it To be
32:36
honest, if it was really bad. I
32:40
probably would say to which
32:40
we've done before we'd probably
32:43
turn up and not go because we
32:43
wouldn't want to just go to the
32:46
pub or something you know just
32:46
to do some
32:48  Trev
I know it sounds really
32:48
really lame and stuff but do you
32:52
really want just because you
32:52
paid that money for that?
32:55  Wayne
That's good, isn't it
32:55
because it's all indoors.
32:59  Trev
Desert fest is great
32:59
venues. different venues. Walk
33:02
around you've got your go home.
33:02
Yeah, brilliant. Yeah, I never
33:06
had some really great bands
33:06
there I've enjoyed that. look
33:10
that up yeah, definitely desert
33:10
fest is cool. Yeah, that's if
33:13
you're into heavier stuff. Yeah,
33:13
I don't think you could go from
33:17
listing to light skinned heard
33:17
that sounds bizarre but then she
33:21
didn't Skinner that's that's the
33:21
other thing very quickly, is how
33:24
annoying it is when a band like
33:24
Linda Skinner last night was
33:29
quoted back in the day say this
33:29
is the last tour this is the
33:31
last time you'll see us and then
33:31
they had on a festival. Yeah, or
33:35
they go to like that's like
33:35
don't do that. Bains be honest I
33:38
know it's money making these one
33:38
big more one big more coppers in
33:42
the old funds before you retire
33:42
but don't do that because it
33:45
just annoys fans. I just think
33:45
he's a sellout. Black Sabbath
33:49
took note should take note of
33:49
that because they're the worst
33:51
ones for it and also for it's
33:51
true. Anyway that's that's
33:54  Wayne
that I've read out so i
33:54
think i think we've we've kind
33:56
of summarized already but let's
33:56
officially go for that with
34:00
music. Oops, that's not the
34:00
right one. technical issues. Oh
34:04
dear. That's the producer hedge
34:04
road crew
34:08  Unknown
can't be doing anything
34:08
because
34:12  Wayne
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I
34:12
just can't i can't multitask.
34:15
It's just not good enough. I
34:15
know. But anyway, we're going to
34:17
the summary forget about that.
34:17
We can we can add it there. Now.
34:23
We will I won't I won't. So to
34:23
summarize, we've already
34:27
summarized To be fair, we
34:27
haven't actually included geeks
34:30
because it's such a vast subject
34:30
we I think we
34:33  Trev
may be separate. We do a
34:33
second one about music just want
34:37
to talk gigs we do another one
34:37
we're doing we'll do what else
34:39
do we do want?
34:40  Wayne
Let us know what you want
34:40
us to talk about as ever. We're
34:42
happy to talk about anything but
34:42
I took from my point of view. We
34:47
have festivals Yeah, they're all
34:47
called you have a good day. We
34:50
treat them more like geeks now
34:50
to be fair, because we tend to
34:52
try and come home or or we stay
34:52
somewhere don't mean a hotel. As
34:56
you said like the latitude with
34:56
Waitrose would suit us
35:00  Trev
Yeah, I think I've
35:00
mentioned it before. Don't fast
35:04
see every band you want to see
35:04
because you're just run around,
35:09
trying to enable take the
35:09
enjoyment out of it. Yeah, see
35:12
the bands that you really want
35:12
to see but don't fuss it.
35:15
Because people walk around with
35:15
timetables rushing about like
35:18
they're on Piccadilly Circus, I
35:18
don't think you're going to
35:21
enjoy all that relax.
35:24  Wayne
pick the ones you really
35:24
need to see and space and
35:27  Trev
get value for money if you
35:27
want, you know, see all the
35:30
bands but you're just going to
35:30
stress yourself out and get on
35:32
with the mistakes and loads of
35:32
bands clash. I remember again,
35:37
it was download one year and
35:37
clutching ZZ Top one at the same
35:40
time is like like I was cursed.
35:40
Who do you see it and then to
35:47  Wayne
it in the end I've seen
35:47
so many times I saw ZZ Top and
35:50
called the end of clutch but
35:50
yeah, that's it. That's my
35:52
advice on that. Yeah. Anyway, I
35:52
mean, some festivals Trev just
35:55
quickly some festivals like the
35:55
country to country which we were
35:58
booked into go to in 2000 Yeah,
35:58
that's classed as a festival but
36:02
it's actually you go home at the
36:02
end of the day and go
36:07  Trev
up to one or that was
36:07
Slayer, the merovingian sleep
36:10
plague and that was a crystal
36:10
Crystal Palace. Is that where
36:13
the dark seas? Yeah, because I
36:13
think days isn't it on a hill.
36:16
That was brilliant. That was
36:16
great. The weather obviously
36:18
didn't affect it.
36:19  Wayne
So there was the famous
36:19
festival Well, that was a
36:21
festival with Alexandra and that
36:21
was a free day festival was near
36:26
of some kind
36:27  Trev
that was Yeah, there was
36:27
other other battles so
36:29  Wayne
it's not always the same
36:29
thing is not always tense in the
36:31
Medina for three days.
36:34
Drinking cider is it they do
36:34
vary in own there exactly is
36:38
enough out there to suit middle
36:38
aged people. So yeah, exactly.
36:41
Yeah, definitely. An Essay maybe
36:41
on a bucket list. We'll get in
36:46
going to one in the on the
36:46
continent software Trev. For
36:49
doing a cruise or something. I
36:49
want to do the cruise.
36:52  Trev
Cruise you don't know.
36:52
Yeah, I went to Germany to a
36:55
festival. The Nuremberg welcome
36:55
ring.
36:58  Wayne
That was really good.
36:58
Yeah, wicked. Yeah. Very good.
37:01
So I'm sure musics always gonna
37:01
be a topic we bring up more. As
37:04
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37:08
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37:08
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37:11
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37:14
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37:14
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37:18
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37:18
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37:21
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37:21
We're doing this as fun we're
37:23
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37:23
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37:34  Trev
to older guys just
37:34
talking.
37:35  Wayne
Yeah, yeah. And we hope
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37:49
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As always,
37:51  Unknown
you're very
37:51
knowledgeable like rock. Oh, my
37:53
rock.
37:54  Wayne
It's all coming out, then
37:54
you will get the benefit of it.
37:56
I mean, I'm always mesmerized by
37:56
the stuff Trev knows, I mean,
37:59
it's my head off. I'm still I'm
37:59
still after after the Christmas
38:04
moon. I'm still thinking about
38:04
Christmas. So yeah, thanks
38:07
again. Trev for your input, and
38:07
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38:10
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