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episode 7: Podcast Movement 2019, Work Cycle Tango, and Rookie Mistakes (feat. Kerry-Ann Reid-Brown) [transcript]


This week we share our main takeaways from Podcast Movement 2019, review some new Buzzsprout features from this past work cycle, and discuss the rookie mistakes we see podcasters making all too often.

Special thanks to Kerry-Ann Reid-Brown for sharing her two cents in this episode. You can learn about Kerry-Ann and her podcast network at breadfruitmedia.com

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 2019-08-23  42m
 
 
00:00  Travis
Well,
00:00
welcome
00:00
back
00:01
to
00:01
Buzzcast.
00:02
We've
00:02
got
00:02
a
00:02
pretty
00:02
cool
00:02
episode
00:03
for
00:03
you.
00:03
Got
00:03
a
00:03
very
00:03
special
00:04
guest,
00:09
Kerry-Ann
00:09
joining
00:09
us
00:09
on
00:09
the
00:09
episode
00:10
today.
00:10
Hello
00:11
Kerry-Ann.
00:11  Kerry-Ann
Hello.
00:11
How
00:12
are
00:12
you?
00:13  Travis
Awesome.
00:13
Awesome.
00:14
Now
00:15
we
00:15
the
00:16
collective
00:16
we
00:17
Buzzsprout
00:17
uh
00:17
,
00:18
we've
00:18
run
00:18
into
00:18
you
00:18
a
00:18
couple
00:18
of
00:18
times
00:19
at
00:19
different
00:20
podcast
00:20
conferences
00:20
and
00:20
meetups
00:21
and
00:21
things
00:21
like
00:21
that.
00:22
Um,
00:22
but
00:22
why
00:22
don't
00:22
you
00:22
go
00:23
ahead
00:23
and
00:23
tell
00:23
us
00:23
a
00:23
little
00:23
bit
00:23
about
00:24
yourself
00:24
and
00:25
specifically
00:25
the
00:26
podcast
00:26
network
00:27
slash
00:27
community
00:27
that
00:27
you've
00:28
been
00:28
working
00:28
on.
00:29  Kerry-Ann
Sure.
00:30
So
00:30
my
00:30
name
00:30
is
00:31
Ann
00:31
Reed
00:31
Brown.
00:32
I
00:32
am
00:32
the
00:32
host
00:33
of
00:33
carry
00:33
on
00:34
friends
00:34
,
00:34
the
00:34
Caribbean
00:34
American
00:34
podcast
00:35
and
00:35
I
00:36
am
00:36
the
00:36
founder
00:37
of
00:37
breadfruit
00:38
media
00:38
and
00:39
also
00:39
Caribbean
00:40
podcast
00:40
directory
00:41
and
00:42
the
00:44
Podcast
00:44
Production
00:44
Company
00:44
and
00:44
the
00:44
directory
00:45
where
00:45
I
00:45
started
00:45
really
00:46
to
00:47
support
00:47
the
00:48
community
00:48
of
00:48
Caribbean
00:49
podcasters
00:49
that
00:50
are
00:50
really
00:51
blazing
00:52
in
00:52
the
00:52
field
00:52
right
00:53
now.
00:53
Podcast
00:53
is
00:53
growing.
00:54
And
00:54
so
00:54
with
00:54
that
00:54
growth,
00:55
you
00:55
have
00:55
communities
00:56
really
00:57
taken
00:57
advantage
00:57
of
00:57
the
00:58
opportunity
00:58
to
00:58
create
00:59
their
00:59
own
00:59
stories.
01:00
And
01:00
so
01:00
with
01:01
breadfruit
01:01
media
01:01
I
01:02
help
01:02
produce
01:02
shows
01:03
and
01:03
with
01:03
the
01:04
podcast
01:04
directory
01:05
it's
01:05
really
01:05
community
01:06
building
01:06
and
01:07
a
01:07
way
01:07
to
01:07
help
01:08
discoverability
01:09
so
01:09
more
01:09
people
01:09
could
01:10
see,
01:10
hey
01:11
there's
01:11
a
01:11
show
01:11
by
01:11
this
01:12
Trinny
01:12
guy
01:12
or
01:12
this
01:12
Haitian
01:13
person
01:13
or
01:13
this
01:13
Jamaican
01:14
person.
01:15
And
01:16
um,
01:16
yeah.
01:16
So
01:17
we
01:17
can
01:17
help
01:17
audience
01:18
discover
01:18
us
01:18
and
01:19
also
01:19
build
01:19
a
01:19
community.
01:20  Travis
That
01:21
is
01:21
super
01:21
cool.
01:22
Well
01:22
thank
01:22
you
01:22
for
01:23
uh,
01:23
gracing
01:23
us
01:23
with
01:23
your
01:24
presence.
01:24
I
01:25
know
01:25
we're
01:25
definitely
01:25
excited
01:25
about
01:26
picking
01:26
your
01:26
brain
01:27
about
01:27
podcast
01:28
movement
01:28
cause.
01:29  Kerry-Ann
it's
01:29
my
01:29
pleasure
01:29
to
01:30
be
01:30
here.
01:30
I'm
01:30
excited
01:31
to
01:31
talk
01:31
about
01:31
it.
01:31
We
01:31
had
01:32
a
01:32
great
01:32
time.
01:32  Travis
Awesome.
01:33
So
01:34
Alvin
01:34
and
01:34
Kevin,
01:34
you
01:35
guys
01:35
just
01:35
spent
01:36
a
01:37
couple
01:37
of
01:37
days
01:37
down
01:37
in
01:37
Orlando
01:38
hanging
01:38
out
01:38
with,
01:38
you
01:38
know,
01:39
two
01:39
to
01:39
3000
01:39
of
01:39
your
01:39
closest
01:40
friends
01:40
podcast
01:41
movement.
01:42
Uh,
01:42
what
01:42
were
01:43
your
01:44
big
01:44
takeaways
01:45
from
01:46
podcast
01:46
movement
01:46
maybe
01:47
album.
01:47
We'll
01:47
start
01:47
with
01:47
you.
01:48  Alban
Yeah,
01:48
so
01:48
this
01:48
is
01:48
a
01:50
couple
01:50
of
01:50
years
01:50
in
01:50
a
01:50
row
01:50
.
01:50
I
01:50
haven't
01:50
been
01:50
able
01:50
to
01:50
sneak
01:51
into
01:51
a
01:51
talk.
01:52
So
01:52
this
01:53
is
01:53
one
01:53
of
01:53
the
01:53
reasons
01:53
I
01:54
really
01:54
wanted
01:54
Kerry-Ann
01:54
to
01:54
be
01:54
on
01:55
here
01:55
is
01:55
because
01:56
our
01:56
experience
01:57
is
01:57
really
01:57
different.
01:58
We
01:59
work
01:59
a
01:59
booth,
02:00
we
02:00
get
02:00
people
02:00
to
02:01
come
02:01
in,
02:01
record
02:01
episodes,
02:02
we
02:02
do
02:03
lots
02:03
of
02:03
connections,
02:04
lots
02:05
of
02:05
talking.
02:06
And
02:06
when
02:06
we
02:06
like
02:07
crashed
02:07
for
02:07
like
02:07
three
02:07
days.
02:08
And
02:08
so
02:09
it's
02:09
a
02:09
different
02:09
experience.
02:10
Um,
02:11
takeaways,
02:12
I
02:12
mean
02:12
that
02:12
I've
02:12
always
02:13
had
02:13
from
02:13
podcast
02:13
movement,
02:15
man,
02:15
it
02:15
is
02:15
so
02:16
different
02:17
from
02:17
five
02:18
years
02:18
ago.
02:19
You
02:19
know,
02:19
five
02:19
years
02:20
ago
02:20
when
02:20
it
02:20
launched,
02:20
it
02:21
was
02:21
like
02:21
this
02:22
super
02:22
niche
02:22
thing
02:23
and
02:24
there
02:25
are
02:25
,
02:25
you
02:25
know,
02:25
it's
02:25
just,
02:26
there
02:26
were
02:26
not
02:26
a
02:26
ton
02:26
of
02:26
people
02:27
there
02:28
and
02:28
now
02:28
it's
02:28
just
02:28
growing
02:29
a
02:30
ton
02:30
is
02:30
this
02:30
like
02:31
industry
02:31
event
02:32
and
02:33
it's,
02:34
it's
02:34
really
02:34
exciting,
02:34
you
02:35
know,
02:35
to
02:35
see
02:35
how
02:35
much
02:35
it's
02:36
grown,
02:36
how
02:36
many
02:37
new
02:37
faces
02:38
we
02:38
see
02:38
every
02:38
time.
02:39
Don't
02:39
know
02:39
.
02:39
What
02:40
do
02:40
you
02:40
feel
02:40
cuff
02:40
,
02:40
what
02:40
do
02:40
you,
02:41
what
02:41
are
02:41
some
02:41
takeaways
02:41
you
02:42
had?
02:42  Kevin
Well
02:42
it
02:42
is
02:43
bigger
02:44
than
02:44
ever.
02:44
Like
02:45
it's
02:45
,
02:45
it's
02:45
shocking
02:45
to
02:45
walk
02:46
into
02:47
the
02:47
Exhibitor
02:47
Hall
02:47
now.
02:47
It
02:47
feels
02:47
like
02:48
you're
02:48
in
02:48
a
02:48
giant
02:49
Costco.
02:50
Like
02:50
size
02:50
space
02:51
is
02:52
huge.
02:52
True.
02:53
And
02:53
there
02:53
are
02:54
vendors
02:54
everywhere
02:55
and
02:56
main
02:56
stages
02:56
everywhere
02:57
and
02:57
minor
02:57
stages
02:57
and
02:58
all
02:58
these
02:58
different
02:59
a
03:00
,
03:00
I
03:00
mean
03:00
if
03:00
there's
03:00
one
03:00
podcast
03:01
conference
03:01
that
03:01
you
03:02
want
03:02
to
03:02
go
03:02
to
03:02
a
03:02
year,
03:03
you
03:03
can,
03:03
this
03:04
has
03:04
everything
03:05
from,
03:05
I'm
03:05
thinking
03:06
about
03:06
doing
03:06
a
03:06
show
03:07
to.
03:07
I've
03:07
been
03:07
doing
03:07
a
03:07
show
03:07
for,
03:08
you
03:08
know,
03:09
you
03:09
know,
03:09
professionally
03:09
for
03:10
years
03:10
they
03:10
have
03:10
something
03:11
for
03:11
everyone.
03:12
It's
03:12
amazing.
03:13
And
03:13
so
03:13
having
03:14
that
03:15
kind
03:15
of
03:15
as
03:15
your
03:16
uh
03:16
,
03:17
background,
03:17
it
03:17
can
03:17
also
03:18
be
03:18
a
03:18
little
03:18
bit
03:18
intimidating
03:19
I
03:19
think
03:19
walking
03:20
into
03:20
something
03:20
that
03:21
huge.
03:21
The
03:21
,
03:22
the
03:22
great
03:22
thing
03:22
about,
03:23
I
03:23
think
03:23
the
03:23
podcast
03:23
community
03:24
in
03:24
general
03:24
is
03:24
that
03:25
that
03:25
goes
03:25
away
03:25
really
03:26
quickly
03:26
because
03:26
everyone
03:26
is
03:27
so
03:27
friendly,
03:28
so
03:28
anxious
03:28
to
03:28
meet
03:29
you
03:29
and
03:29
find
03:29
out
03:29
what
03:29
do
03:29
you
03:30
do
03:30
in
03:30
the
03:30
space
03:30
and
03:31
tell
03:31
you
03:31
about
03:31
what,
03:32
what
03:32
they
03:32
do.
03:32
And
03:33
it's
03:33
really
03:33
like
03:34
this,
03:34
this
03:35
interesting
03:35
environment
03:36
where
03:36
you
03:36
walk
03:37
into
03:37
something
03:37
huge
03:37
and
03:38
massive
03:38
and
03:38
you
03:38
kind
03:38
of
03:38
feel
03:39
a
03:39
little
03:39
bit
03:39
small
03:40
and
03:40
then
03:41
immediately
03:41
start
03:41
connecting
03:42
with
03:42
people.
03:43
Uh
03:43
,
03:43
it's
03:43
hard
03:43
not
03:44
to
03:44
have
03:44
fun
03:44
in
03:44
an
03:45
environment
03:45
like
03:45
that.
03:46
I
03:46
think.
03:46  Kerry-Ann
Yeah
03:46
,
03:47
you
03:47
are
03:47
right.
03:48
Because
03:48
2017
03:49
when
03:49
I
03:49
went
03:49
to
03:49
podcast
03:50
movement,
03:50
I
03:50
was
03:51
five
03:51
months
03:51
pregnant
03:52
and
03:52
struggling
03:53
to
03:53
deal
03:53
with
03:53
a
03:53
three
03:53
hour
03:54
time
03:54
difference
03:54
cause
03:54
it
03:55
was
03:55
in
03:55
California
03:56
and
03:56
it
03:56
was
03:56
the
03:56
first
03:57
time
03:57
I
03:57
met
03:58
a
03:58
lot
03:58
of
03:58
people.
03:59
Um,
03:59
and
04:00
but
04:01
when
04:01
I
04:01
got
04:01
there
04:01
it
04:01
was
04:01
almost
04:02
like
04:02
I
04:02
instantly
04:03
made
04:04
connections,
04:04
connections
04:05
that
04:05
have
04:06
really
04:07
been
04:07
valuable
04:08
two
04:08
years
04:08
later.
04:09
So
04:09
I
04:09
agree.
04:09
When
04:09
you
04:09
first
04:10
go
04:10
in
04:10
it's
04:11
a
04:11
bit
04:11
overwhelming
04:12
and
04:12
then
04:12
you
04:12
start
04:12
connecting
04:13
and
04:13
once
04:14
you
04:14
connect
04:14
you
04:14
kind
04:15
of
04:15
lock
04:16
in
04:16
with
04:16
these
04:17
people
04:17
and
04:17
for
04:17
the
04:18
rest
04:18
of
04:18
the
04:18
conference
04:18
you're
04:19
like
04:19
buddies
04:19
and
04:19
then
04:20
you
04:20
come
04:20
away
04:20
with
04:20
a
04:20
whole
04:21
new
04:21
set
04:22
of
04:22
really
04:22
good
04:22
friends
04:23
and
04:23
not
04:23
superficial
04:24
friends,
04:24
like
04:25
really
04:25
good
04:25
friends
04:26
that
04:26
you're
04:26
always
04:27
connecting
04:27
with.
04:28  Alban
Yeah,
04:29
the
04:29
podcasting
04:29
is
04:29
really
04:30
cool
04:30
because
04:30
it
04:30
builds
04:30
this
04:31
sense
04:31
of
04:31
community
04:32
among
04:32
the
04:32
people
04:32
who
04:33
listen
04:33
to
04:33
your
04:33
show,
04:34
but
04:34
a
04:34
lot
04:34
of
04:35
times
04:35
you're
04:35
not
04:35
talking
04:36
to
04:36
other
04:36
podcasters.
04:37
So
04:38
it's
04:38
cool
04:39
when
04:39
everyone
04:39
gets
04:39
together.
04:39
The
04:39
first
04:40
few
04:40
years
04:40
I
04:40
feel
04:40
like
04:41
everyone's
04:41
question
04:42
used
04:42
to
04:42
be,
04:43
tell
04:43
me
04:43
about
04:43
your
04:43
show,
04:44
maybe
04:44
I'll
04:44
listen
04:44
to
04:45
it.
04:45
And
04:45
now
04:46
I
04:46
feel
04:46
like
04:46
podcasts
04:47
move
04:47
has
04:47
grown
04:47
into
04:48
like,
04:48
hey,
04:48
tell
04:49
me
04:49
about
04:49
your
04:49
show
04:49
and
04:50
let's
04:50
bounce
04:50
ideas
04:51
off
04:51
each
04:51
other.
04:51
How
04:51
to
04:51
improve
04:52
shows,
04:53
how
04:53
to
04:53
collaborate.
04:54
And
04:54
people
04:55
are
04:55
kind
04:55
of
04:55
forging
04:55
these
04:56
new
04:56
friendships
04:56
and
04:56
partnerships.
04:58
Yeah.
04:58  Kevin
You
04:58
meet
04:59
people
04:59
everywhere.
04:59
I
04:59
was,
05:00
every
05:00
time
05:00
we
05:00
got
05:01
in
05:01
the
05:01
elevator,
05:01
you're
05:02
standing
05:02
next
05:02
to
05:02
somebody
05:02
with
05:03
a
05:03
podcast
05:03
movement
05:03
badge
05:03
on.
05:04
Yeah.
05:04
And
05:04
so,
05:04
so
05:05
some
05:06
of
05:06
the
05:06
best
05:06
connections
05:06
we
05:06
make
05:07
are
05:07
just
05:07
riding
05:07
elevators
05:08
up
05:08
and
05:08
down.
05:09
I
05:09
mean,
05:09
it's,
05:10
it's
05:10
one
05:11
of
05:11
those
05:11
places
05:11
where
05:12
if
05:12
you're,
05:12
if
05:12
you're
05:13
like
05:13
me,
05:13
I'm
05:13
an
05:13
introverted
05:14
person.
05:15
Um,
05:15
it's
05:16
not
05:16
hard.
05:17
I'm
05:17
not
05:17
super
05:17
comfortable
05:18
walking
05:18
in
05:18
just
05:19
pushing
05:19
my
05:19
way
05:19
into
05:19
a
05:20
group
05:20
of
05:20
three
05:20
or
05:20
four
05:21
or
05:21
three
05:21
or
05:21
400,
05:22
like
05:22
either
05:22
one
05:23
of
05:23
those
05:23
is
05:23
not
05:23
a
05:23
great
05:24
situation
05:24
for
05:24
me.
05:25
Um,
05:25
it's
05:25
not
05:26
my
05:27
comfortable
05:27
place,
05:28
but
05:28
there's
05:29
always
05:29
an
05:29
opportunity
05:30
,
05:31
um,
05:31
to
05:31
connect
05:31
on
05:32
this
05:32
common
05:32
ground
05:32
of,
05:32
we
05:33
have
05:33
some
05:33
interest
05:33
in
05:33
the
05:33
podcasting
05:34
space.
05:34
So
05:34
the
05:34
conversations
05:35
just
05:35
start
05:35
very
05:36
naturally
05:36
and
05:37
they
05:37
very
05:37
quickly
05:37
become
05:38
,
05:39
um,
05:39
you're
05:39
trying
05:39
to
05:39
figure
05:40
out,
05:40
hey,
05:40
how
05:40
can
05:40
I
05:41
help
05:41
you?
05:41
How
05:41
can
05:41
I
05:41
support
05:41
you?
05:42
And
05:42
they're
05:42
doing
05:42
the
05:42
same.
05:42
And
05:43
so
05:43
I
05:44
think
05:44
it's
05:44
a
05:44
great
05:44
place
05:45
whether
05:45
you're
05:45
introverted
05:45
or
05:46
extroverted.
05:46
Again,
05:47
just
05:47
speaking
05:47
as
05:47
an
05:47
introvert,
05:48
I
05:48
feel
05:48
very
05:48
comfortable
05:49
in
05:49
that
05:49
environment.
05:50
And
05:50
that's
05:50
not
05:50
true
05:50
for
05:51
all
05:51
conferences
05:51
or
05:51
all
05:52
events.
05:52
Yeah.
05:53  Alban
Kerry-
05:53
Ann
05:53
you
05:53
said
05:54
you
05:54
had
05:54
a
05:54
like
05:54
a
05:54
method,
05:55
don't
05:55
you?
05:55
You
05:56
have
05:56
like
05:56
a
05:56
whole
05:56
system,
05:57
podcast
05:57
movement.
05:59  Kerry-Ann
yes,
06:00
it's
06:00
a
06:00
system
06:01
for
06:01
any
06:01
conference
06:02
really.
06:02
So
06:03
the
06:03
first
06:04
year
06:04
I
06:04
go
06:04
into
06:04
podcast
06:05
movement
06:05
,
06:05
I
06:05
made
06:05
a
06:05
list.
06:05
There
06:06
was
06:06
a
06:06
list
06:06
of
06:06
things
06:07
I
06:07
wanted
06:07
to
06:07
accomplish
06:08
and
06:09
going
06:09
in.
06:10
And
06:10
then
06:10
I
06:10
took
06:11
a
06:11
look
06:11
at
06:12
the
06:12
conference
06:12
agenda
06:13
and
06:14
I
06:14
may
06:15
tweak
06:15
or
06:16
ally
06:16
in
06:16
a
06:16
real
06:17
line
06:17
and
06:17
a
06:17
little
06:17
bit.
06:18
And
06:19
I,
06:20
I
06:20
remember
06:21
in
06:21
2017
06:22
I
06:22
hit
06:22
that
06:23
and
06:23
I
06:23
hit
06:23
that
06:23
in
06:24
like
06:24
a
06:24
15
06:25
minute
06:25
conversation
06:25
with
06:26
Glenn
06:26
The
06:26
Geek,
06:27
Glenn,
06:27
the
06:29
Geek
06:29
of
06:29
Horse
06:29
Radio
06:29
Network.
06:29
I
06:29
just
06:30
hit
06:30
that
06:30
like
06:30
right
06:30
out
06:30
the
06:31
gate.
06:31
He
06:31
sat
06:31
me
06:31
down,
06:32
he
06:32
gave
06:33
me
06:33
a
06:33
,
06:33
a
06:33
specific
06:34
talk
06:34
to
06:35
and
06:35
when
06:35
I
06:35
saw
06:35
him
06:36
this
06:36
year
06:36
he
06:36
was
06:36
like,
06:36
Oh
06:36
yeah,
06:37
you've
06:37
graduated,
06:38
now
06:38
you're
06:38
in
06:38
high
06:38
school,
06:39
new
06:39
assignment
06:39
.
06:40
So
06:41
it
06:41
was
06:42
really
06:42
great.
06:42
And
06:42
so
06:43
this
06:43
year
06:43
I
06:44
use
06:44
the
06:44
same
06:45
method,
06:45
which
06:45
is
06:46
what
06:46
is
06:46
it
06:46
that
06:47
I'm
06:47
looking
06:47
for?
06:48
Um,
06:48
what
06:49
do
06:49
I,
06:49
what
06:50
I,
06:50
what
06:50
do
06:50
I
06:50
want
06:50
to
06:50
get
06:51
out
06:51
of
06:51
this?
06:51
And
06:51
then
06:52
I
06:52
looked
06:52
at
06:52
the
06:52
conference
06:53
tracks
06:53
and
06:53
I'm
06:54
like,
06:54
where
06:54
are
06:54
the
06:54
sessions?
06:55
And
06:55
I'm
06:55
like,
06:55
yeah,
06:56
I
06:56
want
06:56
this,
06:56
I
06:56
want
06:57
that.
06:57
And
06:58
then
06:58
the
06:58
struggle
06:59
this
06:59
year
06:59
where
06:59
a
06:59
lot
07:00
of
07:00
the
07:00
sessions
07:01
were
07:01
happening
07:01
at
07:02
the
07:02
same
07:02
time
07:02
and
07:03
it's
07:03
like,
07:03
how
07:03
am
07:04
I
07:04
going
07:04
to
07:04
even
07:05
win
07:05
this?
07:06
And
07:07
to
07:07
your
07:07
point,
07:08
so
07:08
you
07:08
guys
07:08
wrote
07:09
up
07:09
and
07:09
now
07:09
the
07:09
elevator,
07:10
that
07:10
hallway
07:11
is
07:11
the
07:11
best
07:11
place
07:12
to
07:12
have
07:12
the
07:12
conversations
07:13
and
07:13
the
07:13
exhibit
07:14
hall
07:14
and
07:14
the
07:14
Hallway
07:15
are
07:15
really
07:15
the
07:15
best
07:16
place
07:16
to
07:16
have
07:16
conversations
07:17
with
07:17
people.
07:18
And
07:18
that's
07:19
where
07:19
the
07:19
conference
07:20
happens.
07:20
Really.
07:21
Not
07:21
so
07:21
much
07:21
in
07:22
the
07:22
sessions
07:22
but
07:22
in
07:22
the
07:23
hallways
07:23
after
07:23
the
07:24
sessions.
07:25
Because
07:25
when
07:25
I
07:25
think
07:25
about
07:26
it,
07:26
I
07:26
never
07:27
went
07:27
to
07:27
a
07:27
lot
07:27
of
07:27
sessions,
07:28
a
07:28
lot
07:28
of
07:28
what
07:29
I
07:29
picked
07:29
up,
07:29
things
07:30
that
07:30
I'm
07:30
going
07:30
to
07:30
execute
07:31
or
07:31
based
07:31
on
07:32
conversations
07:32
I
07:32
had
07:33
in
07:33
the
07:33
hallways
07:33
talking
07:34
to
07:34
you
07:34
guys
07:34
in
07:35
the
07:35
exhibit
07:35
hall.
07:36
And
07:36
I
07:36
think,
07:37
I
07:37
think
07:38
for
07:38
a
07:38
Newbie
07:38
it
07:38
could
07:38
be
07:39
overwhelming
07:40
cause
07:40
you
07:40
want
07:40
to
07:40
go
07:40
to
07:40
all
07:40
the
07:41
sessions,
07:41
but
07:42
as
07:42
you
07:42
meet
07:43
people,
07:44
I
07:45
think
07:45
it's
07:45
natural
07:45
to
07:46
develop
07:46
those
07:46
relationships
07:47
because
07:48
the
07:48
conference
07:49
is
07:49
in
07:50
that
07:50
moment
07:50
of
07:50
time.
07:51
Whereas
07:52
the
07:52
conversations,
07:53
that
07:53
opportunity
07:54
to
07:54
have
07:54
those
07:54
conversations
07:55
and
07:55
build
07:56
,
07:56
um,
07:57
a
07:57
relationship
07:58
can
07:58
only
07:58
happen
07:59
in
07:59
that
07:59
moment
08:00
and
08:01
to
08:01
just
08:01
go
08:01
with
08:02
that.
08:02
And
08:02
so
08:02
that's
08:03
been
08:03
my
08:03
approach.
08:04
And
08:05
um,
08:05
I
08:05
was
08:05
fortunate
08:06
to
08:06
bring
08:06
friends
08:06
along
08:07
this
08:07
year
08:07
and
08:08
um,
08:08
when
08:09
I,
08:09
and
08:09
I
08:09
think
08:09
that's
08:09
another
08:10
strategy
08:10
when
08:10
you
08:11
go
08:11
with
08:11
friends,
08:12
it's
08:12
a
08:12
divide
08:13
and
08:13
conquer.
08:13
Okay,
08:14
I'm
08:14
going
08:14
to
08:14
this
08:15
session.
08:15
You
08:15
go
08:15
to
08:15
that
08:16
session,
08:16
okay,
08:16
we
08:17
split,
08:17
we
08:17
come
08:17
back
08:18
and
08:18
we
08:18
just
08:19
kind
08:19
of
08:19
debrief
08:19
what
08:19
we've
08:19
learned.
08:20
So
08:20
buddying
08:21
up
08:21
with
08:21
someone
08:22
else
08:22
,
08:23
um,
08:23
is
08:23
also
08:23
a
08:23
good
08:23
approach
08:24
to
08:24
tackling
08:25
a
08:25
conference.
08:26
So
08:26
massive.
08:27  Alban
Yeah.
08:27
One
08:27
of
08:27
the
08:27
things
08:27
podcast
08:28
movement
08:28
does
08:29
differently
08:30
than
08:30
maybe
08:30
like
08:30
FlynnCon,
08:31
which
08:31
we
08:31
just
08:31
went
08:31
to.
08:32
They've
08:33
got
08:33
tons
08:33
of
08:33
different
08:34
talks
08:34
going
08:34
on
08:34
at
08:34
once.
08:35
So
08:36
there's
08:36
times
08:36
you're
08:36
picking
08:37
between
08:37
like
08:38
six
08:38
or
08:38
seven
08:38
different
08:39
talks
08:40
and
08:41
two
08:41
or
08:41
three
08:41
of
08:41
them
08:41
might
08:42
sound
08:42
really
08:42
good
08:42
to
08:43
you.
08:43
So
08:44
having
08:44
like
08:44
a
08:44
buddy
08:45
system
08:46
is
08:46
great.
08:46
I
08:46
know
08:46
they
08:47
also
08:47
do
08:47
like
08:48
virtual
08:48
tickets,
08:49
which
08:49
people
08:49
pick
08:50
up
08:50
so
08:50
that
08:50
they
08:50
can
08:50
watch
08:51
recordings
08:51
later.
08:53  Kerry-Ann
I
08:53
mean
08:53
those
08:53
are
08:53
good,
08:54
but
08:54
I,
08:55
I
08:55
,
08:55
and
08:56
I
08:56
am
08:56
not,
08:57
I'm
08:57
not
08:57
dissuading
08:57
anyone
08:58
from
08:58
them,
08:58
but
08:58
I
08:58
also
08:59
think
09:00
in
09:00
those
09:00
sessions
09:01
there
09:02
are
09:02
some
09:02
questions
09:02
that
09:03
you,
09:03
you
09:03
want
09:04
to
09:04
ask
09:04
right
09:05
then
09:05
and
09:05
there
09:05
you
09:05
lose
09:05
that
09:06
opportunity.
09:06
So,
09:07
you
09:07
know,
09:07
I
09:07
was
09:08
in
09:08
the
09:08
session
09:08
where
09:09
um
09:09
pod
09:10
news.net
09:11
was
09:11
hosting
09:12
or
09:12
having
09:12
a
09:12
conversation
09:12
about
09:13
Google.
09:13
So
09:14
because
09:14
I'm
09:14
building
09:15
the
09:15
community
09:15
,
09:16
um,
09:16
around
09:17
the
09:17
Caribbean
09:17
podcast
09:18
is
09:18
I
09:18
have
09:18
specific
09:18
questions.
09:19
So
09:20
the
09:20
in
09:20
audio
09:21
search,
09:21
which
09:22
I
09:22
had
09:22
an
09:22
experience
09:23
with
09:23
castbox
09:23
where
09:24
I
09:24
was
09:24
speaking
09:25
very
09:25
clearly,
09:26
I
09:26
think
09:26
it
09:26
was
09:26
very
09:26
speaking,
09:27
very
09:27
clear
09:27
English,
09:28
but
09:28
it
09:28
wasn't
09:28
picking
09:29
up
09:29
anything
09:29
that
09:29
I
09:29
said.
09:30
And
09:30
maybe
09:31
it's
09:31
because
09:31
I
09:31
had
09:31
a
09:31
slight
09:31
accent.
09:32
So
09:32
my
09:33
question
09:33
was
09:33
like,
09:34
hey
09:34
guys,
09:34
what
09:34
are
09:34
you
09:34
going
09:35
to
09:35
do
09:35
with
09:35
people
09:35
who
09:35
have
09:35
an
09:35
accent?
09:36
Even
09:36
people
09:36
in
09:36
Boston,
09:37
they
09:37
don't
09:37
say
09:37
car,
09:38
they
09:38
say
09:38
carrr,
09:39
you
09:39
know,
09:39
does
09:39
it
09:40
pick
09:40
up
09:40
,
09:41
you
09:41
know,
09:41
how
09:41
does
09:42
it
09:42
pick
09:42
up
09:42
the
09:42
accent?
09:43
And
09:43
you
09:44
know,
09:44
when
09:44
people
09:44
do
09:44
search,
09:45
will
09:45
it
09:45
recognize
09:46
that?
09:46
And
09:46
I
09:46
understand
09:47
it's
09:47
artificial
09:47
intelligence,
09:48
but
09:49
I
09:49
also
09:49
need
09:49
to
09:49
understand
09:51
because
09:51
I'm
09:52
like,
09:52
do
09:52
you
09:52
want
09:52
people
09:52
to
09:53
create
09:53
content
09:54
for
09:54
their
09:54
community
09:55
or
09:55
do
09:55
you
09:56
want
09:56
people
09:56
to
09:56
create
09:56
content
09:57
so
09:57
they
09:57
could
09:57
rank
09:58
in
09:58
Google
09:59
or
09:59
Apple
09:59
because
10:00
no
10:00
matter
10:00
how
10:00
much
10:00
they
10:01
say
10:01
create
10:02
content
10:02
for
10:02
your
10:02
community,
10:04
when
10:04
people
10:05
are
10:05
celebrating
10:05
sexy
10:06
download
10:06
numbers
10:07
of
10:07
10,000,
10:08
a
10:08
million,
10:08
whatever,
10:09
you
10:09
know,
10:09
you
10:09
kind
10:10
of
10:10
feel
10:10
a
10:10
little
10:10
way
10:11
like
10:11
what
10:11
am
10:11
I
10:11
not
10:12
doing
10:12
right?
10:12
Cause
10:12
you
10:13
want
10:13
sexy
10:13
download
10:14
numbers.
10:15
And
10:15
so
10:15
if
10:16
you
10:16
know
10:17
the
10:17
technology
10:18
is
10:19
in
10:19
inadvertently
10:20
penalizing
10:21
you
10:21
because
10:21
it's
10:22
not
10:22
able
10:22
to
10:22
pick
10:22
up
10:22
certain
10:23
words
10:23
because
10:24
you
10:24
have
10:24
a
10:24
slight
10:24
accent,
10:25
I'm
10:25
not
10:26
somewhat
10:26
slang,
10:27
then
10:27
you
10:27
know,
10:28
what
10:28
are
10:28
we
10:28
doing
10:29
to
10:29
address
10:29
those?
10:29
And
10:30
if
10:30
I
10:30
only
10:31
was
10:31
able
10:31
to
10:31
watch
10:32
that
10:32
in
10:32
the
10:32
virtual
10:32
ticket,
10:33
I
10:33
wouldn't
10:33
have
10:33
the
10:33
opportunity
10:34
to
10:34
ask
10:35
the
10:35
head
10:36
of
10:36
Google
10:36
podcasts
10:37
or
10:38
um,
10:38
I
10:38
can
10:38
not
10:38
remember
10:39
his
10:39
name.
10:39
But
10:39
the
10:39
guy
10:39
who
10:39
runs
10:40
pod
10:40
news.net
10:41
a
10:41
lot
10:41
of
10:42
those
10:42
questions.
10:42
So
10:42
I
10:42
think
10:44
that's
10:44
the
10:44
value
10:45
of
10:45
going
10:46
to
10:46
sessions
10:46
and
10:47
being
10:47
able
10:47
to
10:47
ask
10:47
those
10:48
really
10:48
good
10:48
follow
10:48
through
10:49
questions.
10:49  Alban
Yeah,
10:50
I
10:50
think
10:50
that's
10:50
a
10:50
great
10:50
point.
10:52
And
10:53
yet
10:53
a
10:53
lot
10:53
of
10:53
cool
10:53
conversations
10:54
walking
10:55
up
10:55
and
10:55
talking
10:56
to
10:56
people
10:56
afterwards.
10:57
I
10:57
know
10:57
I've
10:57
had
10:57
those
10:58
experiences
10:58
at
10:59
like
10:59
marketing
10:59
conferences.
11:01
You
11:01
get
11:01
to
11:01
go
11:01
up
11:01
and
11:01
you
11:01
get
11:02
to
11:02
ask
11:02
questions
11:03
and
11:03
you
11:03
know
11:04
you're
11:04
walking
11:04
out
11:04
of
11:04
a
11:04
session
11:05
with
11:05
someone
11:06
you
11:06
can
11:06
start
11:06
bouncing
11:06
ideas
11:07
off
11:07
each
11:07
other.
11:08
[inaudible].
11:09  Travis
Kerry-Ann,
11:09
what
11:10
were
11:10
like
11:10
the
11:10
top
11:11
three
11:11
things
11:11
that
11:11
you
11:11
took
11:12
away
11:12
that
11:12
you
11:12
learned
11:13
from
11:13
podcast
11:14
movement
11:14
this
11:14
year
11:14
from
11:15
all
11:15
the
11:15
sessions
11:15
you
11:15
went
11:16
to
11:16
and
11:16
all
11:16
the
11:16
interactions
11:17
and
11:17
conversations
11:17
you
11:17
had
11:18
over
11:18
like
11:18
your,
11:19
your
11:19
big
11:19
three
11:20
takeaways.
11:21  Kerry-Ann
All
11:21
right,
11:21
so
11:22
one
11:22
of
11:22
the
11:23
fun
11:23
sessions,
11:24
or
11:24
one
11:24
of
11:24
the
11:24
best
11:24
sessions
11:25
was
11:25
the
11:25
Edison
11:26
research
11:26
session
11:26
and
11:27
it
11:27
was
11:28
more
11:28
of
11:29
podcasts
11:29
is
11:29
changing.
11:31
And
11:31
last
11:32
year
11:32
I
11:32
believe
11:33
the
11:33
same
11:33
gentleman
11:34
spoke
11:34
about
11:34
how
11:35
the
11:35
majority
11:36
of
11:36
Americans
11:37
or
11:37
people
11:37
still
11:38
aren't
11:38
exposed
11:38
to
11:39
podcasts
11:39
.
11:39
So
11:39
this
11:40
year
11:40
he
11:40
came
11:40
back
11:41
with
11:41
updated
11:41
research
11:42
that
11:42
people
11:42
are
11:43
aware
11:43
of
11:43
podcasts,
11:44
but
11:44
podcasts
11:45
looks
11:45
very
11:45
different.
11:46
They're
11:46
not
11:47
necessarily
11:48
listening
11:48
in
11:49
apps.
11:49
They're
11:50
listening
11:51
to
11:51
youtube
11:52
shows.
11:52
Like
11:52
that
11:52
nurse
11:53
Blake
11:53
thing
11:54
that
11:54
he
11:54
talked
11:54
about,
11:55
he
11:55
didn't
11:55
have
11:55
a
11:55
feed
11:56
anywhere.
11:57
It
11:57
was
11:57
just
11:57
being
11:57
listened
11:58
to
11:58
or
11:58
watched
11:59
and
11:59
youtube.
12:00
So
12:00
I
12:00
think
12:00
that's
12:00
very
12:01
interesting
12:01
that
12:02
,
12:03
um,
12:03
and
12:03
it
12:03
makes
12:04
sense.
12:04
It
12:04
really
12:05
makes
12:05
sense
12:05
because
12:06
,
12:07
um,
12:07
as
12:08
technology
12:09
proliferates
12:10
and
12:10
we
12:11
deliver
12:11
content
12:12
a
12:12
specific
12:12
way,
12:14
podcasting
12:14
is
12:14
gonna
12:14
look
12:14
different,
12:14
which
12:15
goes
12:15
back
12:15
to
12:15
something
12:16
that
12:16
I
12:16
wrote
12:16
on
12:16
the
12:16
blog.
12:17
Should
12:17
we
12:17
consider
12:18
re
12:18
changing
12:19
the
12:19
name
12:19
from
12:20
podcast
12:20
?
12:21
Um,
12:21
because
12:21
we
12:21
don't
12:21
use
12:22
iPods
12:22
,
12:22
so
12:22
listen
12:23
to
12:23
them
12:23
anymore.
12:24
But
12:24
that
12:24
was,
12:24
that
12:25
was
12:25
a
12:25
huge
12:25
takeaway
12:26
and
12:26
it's
12:26
how
12:26
we
12:26
deliver
12:27
content
12:28
to
12:28
these
12:28
users.
12:29
So
12:29
,
12:30
um,
12:31
you
12:31
know,
12:32
older
12:32
,
12:32
you
12:32
know,
12:32
older,
12:33
old
12:33
school
12:34
podcast
12:34
listeners
12:34
will
12:34
listen
12:35
the
12:35
traditional
12:36
way,
12:36
but
12:36
newer
12:37
entrance
12:37
to
12:37
the
12:37
podcast
12:38
market,
12:39
they're
12:39
listening
12:39
to
12:40
podcasts
12:40
in
12:40
a
12:40
very
12:40
different
12:41
way.
12:41
So
12:42
to
12:42
be
12:42
careful
12:43
of
12:43
our
12:43
call
12:43
to