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episode 12: Making The Most Of Your Life: Who Wants To Live Forever [transcript]


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Name of show: A Midlife Less Ordinary

Episode title and number: Season 1 Episode 12: Making The Most Of Your Life – Who Wants To Live Forever

Brief summary of show:

Wayne & Trev decided last minute to add this episode to round off season 1 and introduce season 2 which follows. The guys give encouragement to all in living your best life and making the most of your time, whilst never wishing to be preachy they give an honest assessment of how we should all expand our comfort zone and therefore live a more fulfilling life. They quite honestly tip the nod to all the parents out there doing a great job that they themselves could not imagine.

There is a special guest making a short appearance at the end of this episode, so please stay tuned for that. Hint: He is Russian

 

Bullet points of key topics & time stamps:

Trev: 15:30 

Yeah, that's, I know. And don't get me wrong, it takes willpower. But you kind of I actually cut up bars of chocolate and eat half a bit a day. And it sounds ridiculous. I'm still getting that fix that I like. But I'm not going for access. And they don't need me wrong. It's not easy. Not getting up in the morning doing the food and cutting and putting another bit back in the fridge. 

Wayne: 21:47 

you're not gonna live forever You are not gonna live forever so don't please don't think that you know don't go without totally but you're getting into balance it's about not living on your credit cards. But not also just saving up every single penny for the rest of your life and then being too old to spend it you got to get that balance

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 2021-03-28  48m
 
 
00:01  intro
You're listening to a mid
00:01
life less ordinary, the weekly
00:05
podcast giving you the lowdown
00:05
on becoming a cool older dude.
00:11
The good times are not afraid of
00:11
memory, it's time to start
00:15
loving them again. And here are
00:15
your hosts Wayne and crab.
00:23  Unknown
Hello, and
00:24  Wayne
welcome to a mid life
00:24
less ordinary. I'm Wayne and
00:26
trebs. Here as always,
00:28  Trev
yep, I'm back again.
00:31  Wayne
And this is season one,
00:31
Episode 12.
00:34  Unknown
Yet,
00:35  Wayne
I know what you're gonna
00:35
say. There isn't a season one,
00:38
Episode 12. You said last week,
00:38
Episode 11 was the last one. And
00:42
now we're going to get some
00:42
interviews where I'm sorry,
00:44
you're still going to get the
00:44
interviews just not today.
00:47
Because I'm going to let Trev
00:47
explain that drove?
00:50  Trev
Well basically, we got to
00:50
the point, we thought it was
00:54
finished, we were like looking
00:54
at the new season thinking,
00:58
interviews next, blah, blah. And
00:58
then one night a conversation
01:03
about what a midlife crisis all
01:03
new was about. And we didn't
01:09
really feel like we'd sort of
01:09
summed it up, because a midlife
01:12
less ordinary has become white
01:12
and I do in this show.
01:17
Not really what we intended it
01:17
to be like we intended to come
01:21
out at the start. And it was
01:21
going to be about what middle
01:25
aged people how they could find
01:25
another lease of life. But it's
01:31
sort of morphed into something
01:31
different, which we really like,
01:35
I'm a big fan of that, then that
01:35
has just become us that the name
01:40
has become wide and I hosted a
01:40
podcast, we thought as a sort of
01:45
bookend as a finish to it. We
01:45
talk about this subject that why
01:50
now I've often spoke about over
01:50
the years as we've got a bit
01:53
older. And it's about maternal
01:53
mortality, isn't it? Why?
01:57
Exactly,
01:58  Wayne
exactly. And that's why
01:58
we've been titled The episode,
02:02
making the most of your life,
02:02
who wants to live forever.
02:06
Because what it's about
02:06
basically is just living your
02:09
best life. And how we try to do
02:09
it, we're not saying that we are
02:13
experts, and we're the best at
02:13
everything. And we've got
02:16
everything we could ever want in
02:16
the world. But what we're saying
02:18
is, make sure you're happy with
02:18
your lot. And if there's
02:22
something you can do about your
02:22
life, if there isn't something
02:24
you know, you're not happy about
02:24
then then do something about it,
02:27
expand that comfort zone, and do
02:27
more with your life. And that's
02:32
what mid life less ordinary has
02:32
become. And this is what Trev
02:36
and I envisage for it moving
02:36
forward. We want to inspire
02:39
people to take on more for
02:39
themselves, enjoy themselves
02:42
more, and take on more. And
02:42
that's the interviews in season
02:47
two, hopefully then then people
02:47
passionate about their subjects,
02:50
will we inspire you to do
02:50
something else?
02:53  Trev
Yeah, basically, you
02:53
summed it up correctly there
02:55
Why? It's very easy. And don't
02:55
get me wrong, we're not having a
03:00
pop up anybody, we're not kind
03:00
of saying you should do
03:04
something, get out there and
03:04
play football run around the
03:07
block, do this, what we're
03:07
saying is don't let the humdrum
03:13
of life take over. Basically, if
03:13
you want to do something, go and
03:20
do it. Don't wait for something
03:20
to happen. To do what you want
03:26
to do, you hear so many people
03:26
say, I want to do that, once
03:32
I've got the money for it, or
03:32
once that's out of the way. The
03:35
thing is with the whole thing
03:35
that's just gone on with with
03:39
COVID. And we don't want to talk
03:39
about that. But it's part of our
03:42
lives. Now. He's, he does show
03:42
you that you're not around
03:45
forever. You know, I understand
03:45
I just said about the money
03:48
thing, which is probably the
03:48
wrong way of putting it. You
03:51
know, because obviously you've
03:51
got money to do certain things.
03:53
But don't be scared to go and do
03:53
what you want to do. This is the
04:00
reason why I've done this
04:00
podcast because you get to a
04:03
certain age and it is so easy if
04:03
you're happy to do that and just
04:06
go home and but if you're not
04:06
happy with it, then search yell,
04:12
go and just nothing comes free
04:12
to anybody does he wait? That's
04:17
the thing is
04:18  Wayne
Yeah, life isn't gonna
04:18
come to you know, if, if you're
04:21
sitting around, thinking that
04:21
your life's just gonna change
04:24
because your lottery numbers are
04:24
gonna come in, probably, I mean,
04:27
you've got that one in 16
04:27
million chance or whatever it
04:29
is. But there is always a
04:29
challenge. It's not likely to
04:32
happen, but you can make changes
04:32
to your life. And this was
04:36
explained to me. I've explained
04:36
it to Trevor before and I'll
04:38
just quickly explain how it was
04:38
said to me about 18 years ago in
04:43
what I thought was going to be a
04:43
terrible sales presentation by
04:46
somebody who was teaching us to
04:46
be good salespeople basically.
04:50
And and I was like, Yeah, okay,
04:50
well, I'm getting paid for it.
04:53
So, you know, we'll sit here and
04:53
listen. And this person was
04:57
telling talking about the
04:57
comfort zone and the comfort
04:59
zone is where We exist mainly in
04:59
feeling comfortable with our
05:02
daily life. within it, no
05:02
anxiety, we do what we do,
05:07
we're, we're used to it. And
05:07
this person basically was
05:10
telling us look just slightly
05:10
expand that comfort zone to feel
05:13
a little bit anxious. And when
05:13
you've expanded that comfort
05:16
zone and experienced it, your
05:16
comfort zone is become bigger,
05:19
and you experience more. And I
05:19
kind of input in little bit into
05:23
that into my life of that. And
05:23
it's made big changes for me and
05:27
everything I've wanted to do not
05:27
like a bucket list, I wouldn't
05:29
go that far. But everything I've
05:29
wanted to do, I've managed to
05:32
tick that box. And that's from
05:32
somebody who's quite shy,
05:35
doesn't like to push themselves
05:35
generally, and gradually ticking
05:39
these boxes and expanding my my
05:39
knowledge and experiences as I
05:44
go. And I know this is true. As
05:44
Trevor said, this is something
05:47
we talk about quite a lot when
05:47
we're out. And it's important to
05:51
us and we want to inspire more
05:51
people to basically look, go out
05:56
and get it if you want to want
05:56
to be a beer. Yeah.
06:02  Trev
Well, we're not talking
06:02
about not unreasonable things,
06:05
obviously, if you want to climb
06:05
Kilimanjaro, right,
06:09  Wayne
good luck with
06:11  Trev
the Monty Python skit, the
06:11
Twin Peaks aquarium and Java
06:14  Wayne
EE makes me think of a
06:14
live the film, we're eating
06:17
people's batteries.
06:22  Trev
That's not a sort of
06:22
thing. You drop in conversation
06:24
very often. It's quite abstract.
06:24
But mine was talking just now
06:28
about there. I don't know about
06:28
you guys. But you know, when
06:31
you're really dreading something
06:31
that's not. But when you're
06:36
really dreading something, and
06:36
then you do it. And then there's
06:40
that feeling afterwards of not
06:40
euphoria. But thinking I've done
06:45
that I've gone, it's nothing. I
06:45
don't think there's another
06:48
feeling in the world. When you
06:48
feel that accomplished, is
06:52
there, I think he's great. I
06:52
think that that feeling, I
06:56
think, any age, you should still
06:56
be able to go sign about doing
07:02
stuff that's not really at your
07:02
zone, as we spoke about in the
07:06
training thing about training
07:06
every day of the week, when
07:10
you're 50, if you can do it,
07:10
good luck to you. But
07:13
realistically, people can't have
07:13
50. So I think when you look at
07:18
it like that, just don't be
07:18
scared to go and get what you
07:22
want. I know we've just spoke a
07:22
lot of bad in the last 10
07:25
minutes, five minutes. But that
07:25
was the idea of this podcast.
07:29
And it's I come in at your
07:29
comfort zone a little bit. He's
07:33
because you never know what
07:33
experience you're going to get
07:36
from it and what you're going to
07:36
enjoy out of it.
07:39
You know, if you do, no, I'm one
07:39
of the I love seeing around and
07:42
watching films and TV. This is
07:42
the biggest part of my life. I
07:47
think it's I
07:47  Wayne
never would have guessed
07:47
from the podcaster, we'd never
07:49
would have guessed that No. But
07:54  Trev
again, now and again. And
07:54
I think as well, because you've
07:58
had that taken away from you
07:58
going out and experiencing
08:01
different stuff. You miss it,
08:01
you don't take anything for
08:05
granted, which is what I think a
08:05
lot of people do before what has
08:10
happened has happened. But I
08:10
think now people have got this.
08:14
Or hopefully they've got this
08:14
feeling of like, I don't really
08:17
take it away from the I want to
08:17
go and do it. Now. You know,
08:23
hopefully we do you do see a
08:23
surge of people really wanting
08:26
to
08:28  Wayne
do the stuff they want to
08:28
do is say or Trevor's already
08:31
explained it. It's not about
08:31
massive, great big leaps of
08:34
faith that you're going to take
08:34
and changing life completely.
08:37
Although if that's what you
08:37
want, and you set that as a
08:40
goal, then please do go for it
08:40
and let us know. How was that
08:43
come out for you? Nah, it's it's
08:43
all about setting yourself small
08:47
goals if you if you want to, if
08:47
you found yourself in any age,
08:52
really, but you know,
08:52
particularly in your midlife,
08:55
and you've had maybe a divorce
08:55
behind you or you know, you've
08:58
got a family that unfortunately
08:58
has not worked out and you've
09:02
all gone your separate. There's
09:02
another life out there waiting
09:04
for you. It's not the end. Get
09:04
yourself out there, put yourself
09:08
out there. There's plenty of
09:08
other people in your situation.
09:11
You can talk to and talking to
09:11
other people, helps you to kind
09:15
of understand your own situation
09:15
and put it into perspective. And
09:19
obviously,
09:21  Trev
what you're saying there
09:21
why nothing. The thing is, it's
09:24
never been easier to communicate
09:24
either exactly as it Yeah. You
09:28
know, you haven't got just go to
09:28
work or go out until you can
09:34
talk to people. And like the
09:34
imagine, can you imagine what
09:38
kind of mess it would have left
09:38
if we wouldn't evade things like
09:42
zoom calls and all that.
09:42
Exactly. Yeah. You know, but
09:47
yeah, it's a difficult thing to
09:47
sum up and to get right across
09:51
because we don't, we don't want
09:51
to come across like with 14
09:56
people are telling you to go and
09:56
do this. Otherwise your life
09:58
will be a misery because there's
09:58
nothing About that, if you're
10:00
happy with it, then you know
10:00
you're happy.
10:04  Wayne
And we know there's a lot
10:04
of people trip out there, isn't
10:07
it? They've probably done a lot
10:07
more with their life than we
10:10
have. We're not saying, Oh, God,
10:10
we're the best, but it's about
10:12
what you're happy with. Within
10:12
What do you want? Don't make
10:16
excuses for it.
10:17  Trev
Yeah, exactly. And don't
10:17
complain about it. Yeah, excuses
10:21
and complain about it. Don't put
10:21
it off because it just, it won't
10:26
happen next things. People said
10:26
a bit, you know, I'll happen
10:30
naturally, you're me. You're our
10:30
partner. You're the one you've
10:36
got to put yourself in
10:36
situations where it needs to be
10:41
the kickstart. You know, it,
10:41
that's the thing. It's that and
10:45
I think, at this middle age
10:45
thing, you either you have a
10:49
look at two ways you either kind
10:49
of accept it and are happy with
10:52
it, which is great. Or you do
10:52
think actually, I kind of need
10:56
to do that. I need to do that.
10:56
You know, I think there's a lot
11:00
to be learned from that already.
11:02  Wayne
It's good to have goals,
11:02
but not all I can think of is a
11:07
scope to victory. Max von Sydow,
11:07
exactly Good God but I'm not
11:15
gonna go into some Nazi
11:15
impression because it's just
11:17
gets me in trouble every time he
11:17
sat. Yeah, but it but yeah, it's
11:22
about setting yourself goals
11:22
only small small amounts of
11:25
goals but if you if you It's a
11:25
bit like when you go to the gym,
11:27
and we've spoke about this
11:27
challenging yourself, yes, what
11:30
you do to get better in the gym
11:30
to get to get bigger to get
11:33
stronger. you challenge
11:33
yourself. So if one week you're
11:36
lifting 10 kilos the next week,
11:36
you might be able to do 12 and a
11:39
half kilos, and you can go in
11:39
and that's what your life should
11:42
be like it should be going oh,
11:42
this week I can walk five miles
11:45
I'm going to try five and a half
11:45
miles and yeah, setting yourself
11:47
small goals not going out
11:47
tomorrow on getting up or not
11:50
going to do the London Marathon
11:50
because you're going to be
11:52
disappoint yourself and you'll
11:52
never leave your front door
11:54
again.
11:54  Trev
I think that's that's one
11:54
of the hardest thing I think
11:57
we've everything because of the
11:57
kind of world we live in.
12:02
People it seems aren't has
12:02
satisfied with smaller goals.
12:07
It's always kind of like you've
12:07
only got this and this is having
12:11
a poker advertising. But any
12:11
kind of sport advertising,
12:17
whether it be a gym, whether it
12:17
be gold, whether it be football
12:20
boots, weather is always by
12:20
understand, play your best and
12:25
not be your best, but
12:28
I'm your best Don't be your
12:28
best. I'm for it. And I just
12:32
made me think of Yoda.
12:35  Wayne
Do not, do not do try and
12:35
do I think he says a lot about
12:39
us about the examples we keep
12:39
bringing
12:41  Unknown
to us. Yeah, trying to
12:41
be deep and meaningful.
12:43  Wayne
Yo, yo, do and Max von
12:43
Sydow.
12:47  Trev
Those two people have
12:47
probably never been mentioned in
12:49
one sentence ever might be in
12:49
like, a studio exact room. They
12:55
were probably trying to cast
12:55
Maxwell and sit out
12:59
later on. Yeah. But they didn't
12:59
say well, can we get Yoda in
13:03
there? Oh, yeah, maybe. But no,
13:03
I'm saying everything so gnarly
13:08
and extreme. You know, there's
13:08
no gradual anymore, that I think
13:13
that that. And I think that kind
13:13
of extreme, puts people off to a
13:20
certain degree. Because, you
13:20
know, it's nice having goals
13:25
that high, and like achieve this
13:25
achieve that, but some of them
13:30
are just unrealistic. So getting
13:30
a bit nearer to your goals every
13:35
now and again. And gradually
13:35
getting there is maybe a bit a
13:38
better route. I don't know. You
13:38
know, perhaps we should be and
13:42
if you've got any thoughts about
13:42
the sort of psychology of it, by
13:46
all means, leave us a message.
13:46
And you know, but I think if you
13:52
push it too hard, there's a lot
13:52
to be disappointed with.
13:55  Wayne
Yeah, you're right,
13:55
you've just summed up basically
13:57
the society we live in. It's all
13:57
about now I want it now. Every
14:01
quick nursed, you know, turn it
14:01
around in 24 hours, do this, do
14:04
that. To ABS a day, make you do
14:04
whatever for one minute, abs per
14:10
second, abs 10. Second, abs,
14:10
it's just unrealistic. The same
14:14
principles apply to everything
14:14
over time, set yourself
14:18
realistic goals. If you're
14:18
overweight, and you want to do
14:21
something about it, don't be put
14:21
off by the fact that going to
14:26
the gym might be a scary
14:26
experience. Set yourself a goal
14:28
to where you want to be in one
14:28
year's time. And then slowly
14:31
head that way, put the plan in
14:31
place to how you need to achieve
14:33
that. And it'll be a lot easier
14:33
than what you think it won't be
14:36
extreme. You won't have to
14:36
starve yourself. You can do it
14:39
gradually. And what happens is,
14:39
as you see that change, I'm
14:42
using this as an example. It's
14:42
probably a bit disingenuous, to
14:45
be honest, because it's an easy
14:45
one to choose. But as you see
14:48
that change in you after one
14:48
month to month, you take photos
14:51
that inspires you to keep going
14:51
and you won't fall back on that
14:55
you'd have to have a big relapse
14:55
to fall back. It's the big goals
14:58
that you struggle with. When you
14:58
say No, I'm going to stop that
15:01
now. How can you realistically
15:01
stop whatever you was doing?
15:04
That was bad to yourself?
15:05  Trev
Yeah, I know. This is a
15:05
really stupid example. But it
15:10
can relate to a nice good. Yeah,
15:10
yeah, yeah. This sounds
15:14
absolutely ridiculous, but I
15:14
actually do it. I love
15:19
chocolate. I'll admit, I
15:19
couldn't. I couldn't just go
15:22
cold turkey and chocolate. I
15:22
know people do. And I'm not
15:24
going to eat chocolate ever
15:24
again. In life. Why not? Because
15:29  Wayne
I just cut down on
15:29
chocolate.
15:30  Trev
Yeah, that's, I know. And
15:30
don't get me wrong, it takes
15:34
willpower. But you kind of I
15:34
actually cut up bars of
15:40
chocolate and eat half a bit a
15:40
day. And it sounds ridiculous.
15:44
I'm still getting that fix that
15:44
I like. But I'm not going for
15:50
access. And they don't need me
15:50
wrong. It's not easy. Not
15:53
getting up in the morning doing
15:53
the food and cutting and putting
15:56
another bit back in the fridge.
15:56
It's like, Oh, yeah, but it's a
16:00
way of dealing with it. You
16:00
know, without because you don't
16:04
want to be working so hard,
16:04
you're so exhausted, or you're
16:08
so mentally in any way that you
16:08
can't function for them other
16:14
hours. You know, I think that's
16:14
what society does it. It pushes
16:19
you to be the best. And that's
16:19
all very good. But I think
16:23
especially our age, you've got
16:23
to consider
16:28
that you still can't achieve all
16:28
that sometimes. He sounds quite
16:34
a negative way of looking. I
16:34
think I think he's true. Know
16:39
that. I
16:39  Wayne
like the chocolate
16:39
reference because I like
16:43
chocolate.
16:45  Trev
When I was talking about
16:45
it, I thought this sounds really
16:47
stupid. No, no.
16:48  Wayne
It what you're showing
16:48
there is you're in control of
16:51
that. It's you're controlling it
16:51
in a way where your mind brain
16:54
can tell you, basically, yeah,
16:54
you're allowing yourself some
16:57
chocolate. It's not going to do
16:57
any harm in the daily calorific
17:00
intake at all. And you still
17:00
you're stuck. And don't feel it.
17:04
Yeah, good. Don't feel like
17:04
you're going without you're
17:05
still having a slight bit of a
17:05
fix. Doing cold turkey is not
17:11
healthy in any way. The only
17:11
time I've ever done that really
17:14
was with smoking. And that's
17:14
only because I'm not being
17:16
funny. Smoking is not good kids.
17:16
Please don't do it in the first
17:20
place. It was the worst thing I
17:20
ever started. A no and I smoked
17:23
for 25 years and I
17:27  Trev
would knock in a bell. I
17:27
don't remember you without a
17:30
roll up.
17:32  Wayne
Thanks for the world. Or
17:32
JPS Nan again, I wasn't always a
17:35
that all I nearly said that word
17:35
from Episode Three. No, but I
17:41
wasn't always but yeah,
17:41
transgressed onto roll ups and
17:44
your fingers go. I mean, this is
17:44
a few years back now, so I don't
17:46
mind talking about it. But your
17:46
fingers go in yellow, you know,
17:50
and you smell of smoke every
17:50
week. You know, and I hated
17:53
myself for it. But I was
17:53
addicted to it. And I couldn't
17:56
go I couldn't I had to go cold
17:56
turkey with that. But it was the
17:59
hardest time of my life but I
17:59
knew when I turned 40 I had to
18:02
stop smoking. And that's 10
18:02
years now. You know shame I
18:06
couldn't apply that to the drink
18:06
but I don't want to give up the
18:09
drink. Trigger can attest to it
18:09
now but
18:14  Trev
now I think that you're
18:14
right there I think the whole
18:17
smoking trip because I didn't
18:17
smoke and then
18:21  Wayne
going to collide with me
18:21
now it can sound like Mr.
18:23
nicotinell
18:25  Trev
when I first met my wife
18:25
she was smoking hot obviously.
18:32  Wayne
Here he goes kudos.
18:34  Trev
Anyway Yeah. Anyway. So I
18:34
everyone around me was smoking
18:40
so I smoked as well then and I
18:40
used to smoke before I went into
18:45
work so I'd stand out in our
18:45
yard and I'd have a cigarette
18:49
and it made me feel awful
18:53
and I thought back in my head
18:53
would be giddy and I'd be like
18:57
enjoyed that you didn't he just
18:57
made you feel rough. So why are
19:04
you sorry it's not like drinking
19:04
or eating a little bit of
19:06
chocolate because it does feel
19:06
great you know
19:10  Wayne
I think we've it's an
19:10
imaging as well as now I think
19:12
you you you like you kind of saw
19:12
it as part of the image
19:17  Trev
I honestly look back and I
19:17
saw smoking is quite rock and
19:22
roll and bad it's just lined up.
19:22
Yes Yeah, yeah, that's the easy
19:28
is bizarre like that, you know?
19:28
But he again back off that
19:33
subject we say
19:36
a little bit of something will
19:36
always be good. Benny is good
19:39
that way. I don't think there's
19:39
wine said going cold turkey
19:43
sighs it's such hard work. And I
19:43
admire people that can do that.
19:48
But it's just
19:53
dealing with that and and the
19:53
misery and staff. You know, that
19:58
the trouble is life. He is such
19:58
a heartbreaker. Because if
20:03
people want to look that good,
20:03
you've got to work so hard to
20:07
get it. Yeah. And yeah, yeah. I
20:07
know I, I think when you get a
20:13
bit older, that kind of little
20:13
bit is enough is quite good.
20:20
sums it up to me. Yeah, it
20:20
really does because your body
20:24
won't physically let you
20:27
do what you really would want to
20:27
be. So it's kind of is taking is
20:33
limiting you a bit so you can't
20:33
do you know the impossible. So
20:40
if you've got the sort of the
20:40
stabilizers on a bit, you know
20:43
what you can do and perhaps that
20:43
should really keep you happy
20:47
enough. I don't know. What do
20:47
you think? Yeah, I
20:51  Wayne
agree. It's, it's, it's
20:51
difficult. You can't do
20:53
everything you don't like, I'd
20:53
love to be able to say, Oh, I'm
20:56
just gonna have a kick around in
20:56
the park at football. I know I
20:59
die It basically I would just
20:59
die, you know, or break both my
21:02
legs because I've got weird
21:02
ankles from being too every year
21:05
you know? Yeah. And I can't do
21:05
it. So there's things in life. I
21:09
can't Don't get me wrong. I
21:09
could probably train for six
21:12
months and get sort of semi fit
21:12
enough to play football down the
21:14
park. But we'd look like a
21:14
couple of completed clubs
21:17
playing football in a park at 15
21:17
years old.
21:20  Trev
I think I would probably
21:20
find the police. Yes, exactly.
21:24  Wayne
It wouldn't be a good
21:24
place we'd find ourselves
21:26  Trev
I think looking looking to
21:26
play would be the least of our
21:29
worries. I was trying to be
21:29
alive
21:31  Wayne
but but but you're right
21:31
it's there's certain things so
21:35
you're an author see as you get
21:35
older your goals change
21:38
obviously Type II sounds a bit
21:38
morbid but time becomes shorter
21:41
so it focuses the mind Yeah, we
21:41
should focus the mind you're not
21:44
gonna
21:44  Trev
you're not gonna live like
21:44
we had Yes,
21:47  Wayne
you're not gonna live
21:47
forever You are not gonna live
21:49
forever so don't please don't
21:49
think that you know don't go
21:52
without totally but you're
21:52
getting into balance it's about
21:55
not living on your credit cards.
21:55
But not also just saving up
22:00
every single penny for the rest
22:00
of your life and then being too
22:02
old to spend it you got to get
22:02
that balance
22:07  Trev
again without sadly morbid
22:07
we all end up in the same box
22:12
that is more bigman
22:15  Wayne
zombie creeping flesh
22:15
morbid
22:19  Trev
unless someone does manage
22:19
to re enter my state you could
22:23
probably swap boxes
22:25  Wayne
know elements would be
22:25
presented that he's
22:28  Trev
never thought about that
22:28
he's because so many people get
22:30
cremated now. Yeah, that's
22:30
what's gonna happen about
22:33
zombies.
22:36  Wayne
You got to bring that
22:36
into this one. Did you? Yeah,
22:39  Unknown
this
22:39  Wayne
is meant to be serious.
22:39
Yeah, George. I remember I would
22:43
never
22:44  Trev
would have made a film
22:44
Woody. Yeah, I'd have to be some
22:47
sort
22:47  Wayne
of spiritual thing,
22:47
wouldn't it?
22:49  Trev
Yeah, you couldn't you
22:49
can't get bodies of ash just
22:51
born
22:54  Wayne
into some betrayal.
22:54
Where's that?
22:56  Unknown
Yeah.
22:58  Trev
That's That's the truth.
22:58
It's going to you can obviously
23:03
trade in yourself But
23:06
see, see so many people kind of
23:06
hit things so hard core that
23:11
they just give up? You know, and
23:11
as you as Wayne says, You You
23:16
haven't got forever and he eats
23:16
an awful thing when you're when
23:19
you're a kid. You just wish all
23:19
your life away, then yeah, you
23:23
really do. You've got no kind of
23:23
focus on the next day you just
23:30
honestly there is when you are a
23:30
kid it does feel like you could
23:33
everything's
23:34  Wayne
a new experience driven
23:34
everything's new your kid and
23:36
that's why it's exciting. You
23:36
know, your first your first time
23:39
you go you know you leave school
23:39
you go you go to the pub, or in
23:43
some days you could offer I
23:43
don't think they do now does
23:46
much day
23:48  Trev
out? I think so to be
23:48
honest. It's kind of every
23:51  Wayne
once you've lived all
23:51
them experiences, everyone
23:53
thinks it's not over. It's just
23:53
about changing the philosophy of
23:56
what experiences you're gonna
23:56
hire.
23:59  Trev
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
23:59
That's, that's that's very true.
24:02
And the thing is, I think we've
24:02
mentioned on on episodes before
24:08
this that
24:10
life is catered now to kind of
24:10
enjoy yourself throughout your
24:16
life, isn't it? Yeah, that's the
24:16
thing like back when we were
24:20
kids, it was it seemed like and
24:20
it might not have been but it
24:25
seemed like that he reached a
24:25
certain age and it was cardigan
24:29
and slippers time.
24:30  Wayne
Yeah, by now we are
24:30
sitting in a rock. Yeah.
24:34  Trev
Yeah, and I can be one of
24:34
the laziest people ever if I if
24:40
I if I want to be and I do like
24:40
it like that. But and again, you
24:45
shouldn't let stuff stress you
24:45
out so much, either really
24:50
should you do what you want to
24:50
do? Because again, that it, it
24:54
becomes
24:56
a kind of hiccup for your own
24:56
doing, doesn't it? You know, one
24:59
minute you're wanting to do this
24:59
and you're trying to cram so
25:02
much in I get a bit like that
25:02
sometimes where I try to cram so
25:06
much in
25:07  Wayne
that frustrated stops.
25:09  Trev
Yeah, exactly. Yay. But
25:09
what you said, is spot on whine
25:13
about the sort of balance. Yeah,
25:13
it really is. The back balances
25:18
is the whole, the whole meaning
25:18
of saying
25:21  Wayne
that as well. And what I
25:21
must bring up in this is Trevor
25:26
and myself, obviously, haven't
25:26
got children. So obviously, that
25:31
means for the last 2030 years,
25:31
overall, your children are we
25:35
have an adult, obviously, that
25:35
experience where you put
25:39
somebody else ahead of yourself.
25:39
were quite selfish. And I would
25:44
say but not in a an overall way.
25:44
But you know, I really respect
25:49
parents, because it's bloody
25:49
hard work, you know, and you put
25:52
Yeah, basically, that that
25:52
person ahead of yourself,
25:55
feeding them probing them,
25:55
paying for them. So yeah, we
25:58
understand that as well, that
25:58
obviously, when you have
26:01
children, it changes your
26:01
philosophy. But, you know,
26:03
perhaps when you're, you're the
26:03
age we are now if you're same
26:06
similar age to yourself, you
26:06
still got things you you can
26:09
achieve now your children are
26:09
grown up, you've had that great
26:11
experience that Trev and I would
26:11
never have. Yeah, we've never
26:14
had that. So we're not trying to
26:14
pretend we know everything we
26:17
know. We've lived a different
26:17
life. But that was a conscious
26:19
choice, wasn't it? Yes. Yeah.
26:19
Because we understand ourselves.
26:23  Trev
I think the thing is, as
26:23
well as you say that, but you
26:26
can only sort of live by your
26:26
experiences, as you say, we
26:31
didn't have that. So we don't
26:31
know any different. I think when
26:35
people have got you know it, I
26:35
know I can see the joy that you
26:39
must bring is incredible. But if
26:39
you haven't had that it's
26:44
difficult to put yourself in
26:44
those shoes, isn't it?
26:47  Wayne
Definitely. Yeah. I mean,
26:47
to say I've touched on it, so to
26:50
speak. Yeah, we obviously being
26:50
with people that have had
26:54
children. I have now got we got
26:54
a nine year old and you know
26:58
that I've lived with her for
26:58
years. But and it's and it's
27:02
hard work being a parent. So you
27:02
obviously you haven't got
27:05
sometimes when you're parenting,
27:05
you haven't got time to put
27:08
yourself first. But we've all
27:08
got, we should still have goals
27:13
for ourselves. We shouldn't just
27:13
settle or we've had children. I
27:16
sort of felt that before when I
27:16
was going through a bit of a
27:18
midlife crisis, if you like I
27:18
tre will probably attest is when
27:21
we was I still live near you.
27:21
And we we used to gym together I
27:25
assigned to you went out one
27:25
time I started thinking I was I
27:27
was in my 40s. And I was saying
27:27
oh, I think I've got five kids.
27:32
And I was questioning Trev
27:32
saying what do you think about
27:34
it? Surely you think about and
27:34
he wasn't he was happy. He said
27:36
he knew myself enough to know.
27:36
Now that's not for me. And I
27:39
wasn't sure I needed to go
27:39
through that process to
27:42
understand myself. And come to
27:42
the conclusion. No, it's not
27:46
important for me. I made this
27:46
decision A long time ago,
27:49
probably but I just needed to
27:49
ask myself questions to make
27:52
sure I was fulfilling. I didn't
27:52
want to feel unfulfilled. When
27:55
I'm on my
27:55  Trev
deathbed. You read the
27:55
sort of problem where it was
28:01
like leaving us or legacy? Yes,
28:01
wasn't it? Yeah, you didn't you
28:05
were thinking once I go, what's
28:05
left? Yeah. But the way I look
28:11
at that he's, once you've gone,
28:11
you've gone. So it doesn't
28:15
matter,
28:16  Wayne
does it? No, I know. But
28:16
it's still somebody seems to
28:18
wants me out. But thinking who's
28:18
going to end up with my
28:20
motorbike or saying?
28:24  Unknown
No, why
28:25  Wayne
shouldn't you right?
28:25
You're totally right. But it
28:28
still bothers me. And I thought
28:28
we were just after, I don't
28:30
know, I had my philosophy if
28:30
we're going to get really
28:33
philosophical. My philosophy and
28:33
philosophy to me is you're born
28:36
to procreate to to reproduce,
28:36
that's what we're here for. But
28:40
sometimes, maybe we're just here
28:40
to have an experience in it. The
28:44
most important thing is not just
28:44
having children just for the
28:46
sake of it, we've actually took
28:46
time to think about it. I'm now
28:49
happy with my decision that I
28:49
haven't got my own children. And
28:52
I know Trevor is
28:54  Trev
to be honest,
28:54  Wayne
and I really respect
28:54
parents because I know our hard
28:57
work it is it really is hard
28:57
work and I really admire you for
29:00
what you've done and what you're
29:00
still doing and you will do
29:03
forevermore basically. Yeah. But
29:03
we it's not it wasn't for us. So
29:07
you know, but that aside, you
29:07
still got a life yourself that
29:11
you need to fulfill your
29:11
prophecy if you like.
29:15  Trev
Yeah, yeah. Easy. You
29:15
don't want to sort of this is
29:21
the whole thing about enjoying
29:21
getting as much out of it as you
29:25
can, you know, just kind of
29:25
enjoying it because you're
29:28
always gonna have time to sit
29:28
and watch a TV you're always
29:32
gonna. But there's there's key
29:32
moment and without is about
29:36
building memories. Yes, because
29:36
there's only only so many times
29:41
you can get a work and talk
29:41
about what was on TV last night.
29:45
Yeah, you know, the best stories
29:45
are the experiences. People
29:50
don't write books about. Well,
29:50
they probably do about what was
29:54
on Netflix.
29:56  Wayne
Like we can find that on
29:56
Amazon right
29:57  Trev
now. Yeah, but you know,
29:57
When you're having the most, to
30:02
me when you're having a laugh,
30:02
and you're having a conversation
30:05
with people is normally about an
30:05
experience that you've had.
30:09
Yeah. Rather than, you know,
30:09
they make the most entertaining
30:15
conversations. You don't
30:15
remember the day in the day out
30:18
there. You
30:18  Wayne
can't remember what you
30:18
can't tell me what you were
30:21
doing on Tuesday of four weeks
30:21
ago, at two o'clock in the
30:26
afternoon at work, but you can
30:26
tell me where you're going. You
30:29
probably good to be fair,
30:29
because it's pretty obvious you
30:32
were watching a 4k blu ray. But
30:32
But roll junks to one side. But
30:37
you could tell me in 1995 at
30:37
that Festival, where you were
30:41
what you enjoyed and everything
30:41
because it's an experience one
30:44
that you did for yourself not to
30:44
just leave or, or just,
30:49  Trev
it wasn't just providing.
30:49
Yes, it wasn't just because you
30:53
you were taking time out for
30:53
yourself. Yeah, that's that's
30:56
what it is. Yeah, if you can
30:56
afford to do that, I mean,
31:00
economy, like money wise and
31:00
time wise, then I think you
31:06
could you could you should do
31:06
it. I think, you know, you're
31:09
what you're gonna look when
31:09
we're not saying you got to lay
31:13
back on your deathbed. And look
31:17  Wayne
we're coming to the end
31:17
to everyone on this on a high
31:19
note, not with too many zombies
31:19
and deathbeds going on we can
31:26
leave Mexico and sit down to
31:26
exercise it in a minute
31:31  Trev
but that's the whole point
31:31
of this this episode. Yeah. Was
31:34
to kind of Inc to encourage
31:34
people to do what we in in in in
31:43
looked at this podcast for Yes.
31:43
That we were getting to the
31:48
point where we had an
31:48
opportunity to do it because we
31:50
had a bit of spare time on our
31:50
hands and the pair of us always
31:54
got stuff to do and we were like
31:54
I haven't been bored for years
32:00
because I just kind of find ways
32:00
to entertain myself and it's
32:06
nobody in a small dark room No.
32:11  Wayne
Robin Williams now when
32:11
he works in the camera shop I
32:13
don't know why I thought I want
32:13
a one hour phone Yeah, that was
32:16
good.
32:17  Trev
But that was that was the
32:17
whole thing and and you just
32:20
thought we're not going to do it
32:20
now you're not going to get this
32:23
time again. So seizing
32:23
opportunities
32:27  Unknown
yes he's
32:28  Trev
a good Simon I think I
32:28
don't know
32:30  Wayne
live your midlife or any
32:30
life less ordinary. And say that
32:35
Yeah, the trips right? Well, he
32:35
summed up at first, the podcast
32:38
was meant to be, we want you to
32:38
just basically say these are all
32:41
things you can get up to in your
32:41
mid life. But what's actually
32:44
what we we've actually learned
32:44
is actually that midlife is
32:47
ours. And we want to be less
32:47
ordinary because we're trained
32:51
for sure and definitely couldn't
32:51
be described as ordinary, but
32:54
not in a strange way you know,
32:54
is this and we want to inspire
32:59
others so we're going to get as
32:59
many people as we can to join us
33:02
on this journey and talk to you
33:02
guys and it might seem some of
33:05
these subjects or whatever to
33:05
you might feel like oh no, I'd
33:09
never do that or no, but give it
33:09
a listen. And say when we're
33:13
talking to various people that
33:13
might be an artist for example,
33:16
it's not about taking up art
33:16
it's about maybe going and
33:20
viewing your local art showing
33:20
and enjoying it and then
33:25
actually that might that you
33:25
might make some friends there
33:27
it's inspiring and some of the
33:27
most of these things you know,
33:30
we've had to go out or we've
33:30
spoke to people and found
33:32
something from all of them who
33:32
say we've done some of these
33:35
interviews now and you know I
33:35
found them really interesting
33:39
because it's a it's not
33:39
something you should always find
33:41
something you know don't do
33:41
yourself quite interesting at
33:43
least look give it a listen.
33:43
Yeah, exactly
33:45  Trev
what that that's the whole
33:45
thing usually taking it makes
33:49
you around not around a person
33:49
because otherwise are they going
33:52
back to the earlier discount?
33:52
Yeah, is that the chocolate out
33:55
of it? I think people that know
33:55
me know I can talk for England
34:04
and and Ireland one of the
34:04
reasons being is
34:10
you talk to people find out a
34:10
bit about there's always a lot
34:13
of the time when I speak to
34:13
anybody even if it's about
34:17
something that I don't know a
34:17
lot about I normally know a
34:19
little bit so you can talk on
34:19
their level a bit I think if you
34:24
shut your mind if you shut off
34:24
to all of it, any kind of
34:28
experience you're just gonna be
34:28
the same i think is just about
34:33
kind of taking bits out that
34:33
whole journey and putting it
34:37
together on the on the on the
34:37
road if
34:39  Wayne
that makes sense. I think
34:39
I think you summed it up really
34:41
nicely. There was something you
34:41
said when you said like knowing
34:44
a bit about everything so you
34:44
can relate to many people really
34:48
important because interaction
34:48
with people is nothing better
34:50
than that. And trips right and I
34:50
look it from slightly different
34:53
aspect. Tribes just really
34:53
social anyways y'all. Some of
34:57
you will know and some of you
34:57
might find out But I'm less
35:01
sick. But by job, you know,
35:01
working in sales and visiting p,
35:04
I could just look at it then
35:04
some sales people are and Trev
35:08
and myself have met many people
35:08
like this that just bore you to
35:10
tears we've got all they know
35:10
about is their subject of work.
35:14
And that's it. Yeah. But when
35:14
you cannot mention one
35:16
dimensional people, yeah,
35:16
they're not interested in but my
35:19
customers, for example, now
35:19
visit, I'd hate them to think
35:22
that me. And a lot of the time
35:22
you turn up, you're talking
35:24
about football, movies, sport,
35:24
whatever the subject is. And
35:29
it's good that you know that
35:29
because I'm not doing this on
35:32
purpose. You can build an
35:32
affinity with people that
35:34
transcends work, and you and
35:34
your friends with them. And
35:38
these people think a lot more of
35:38
you. And that is better for my
35:40
well being to know that people
35:40
think that of me, rather than
35:43
just I'm sorry, sales guy who is
35:43
just trying to make money out of
35:46
them or something.
35:46  Trev
Yeah, yeah, you're not
35:46
you're just a cardboard cutout.
35:49
Yeah. That's the whole thing
35:49
about technology is it's easy to
35:55
communicate via email is easy.
35:55
And it's all very convenient,
36:00
great. But we're going to lose
36:00
those skills. Yes. If we still
36:05
don't interact. Yeah, you're
36:05
right, you know, that that's the
36:09
whole thing is going to become a
36:09
very sterile world. You know,
36:13
there's been some really great
36:13
science fiction. And that about
36:16
that, if we're not careful, it
36:16
will come true.
36:20  Wayne
Yeah. Especially after
36:20
this time we've had where people
36:24
become less social. So it's
36:24
going to be easier for us to
36:27
make excuses. I'm not going down
36:27
the pub, I'm going to sit at
36:30
home with McKenna Stella. And I
36:30
don't know why I brought that
36:33
one up, but an enjoyment of it.
36:33
And there's nothing wrong with
36:36
that. Don't get me wrong, you
36:36
know, I can see the benefits it
36:39
but it's about balance.
36:39
Everything like Trev said
36:41
earlier, you know, and
36:41
everything is about balance. So
36:44
to sum up, Trev we're not gonna
36:44
have a test, Trevor? No, because
36:48
I think the subject even though
36:48
we've gone off it a couple of
36:50
times. But yeah, even though
36:50
we're just to sum up, instead of
36:53
test, Trevor, I'm going to say
36:53
to you, what you're going to do
36:56
different what you're going to
36:56
try and set your comfort zone
36:58
and what do you want to achieve
36:58
moving forward? Maybe the next
37:01
year?
37:04  Trev
We know to be honest.
37:07  Wayne
glad you've given me a
37:07
lawful
37:11  Trev
half an hour to not take
37:11
things for granted. Cool. Yeah,
37:16
definitely. Not. Because enjoy
37:16
can be taken away from you. Like
37:21
it has been. And don't get me
37:21
wrong. It was great. It was a
37:24
novelty at the start. It was
37:24
like nice having a break for me.
37:27
Oh, and really appreciate and I
37:27
loved. I loved it at the star.
37:31
But all of a sudden, you are you
37:31
become very insular. And maybe
37:36
that's just my character. But
37:36
now I don't want to take
37:39
anything for granted anymore.
37:39
That's really
37:42  Wayne
cool. I think that's
37:42
really, it's really rewarding
37:44
trip. I think you if that's the
37:44
case, and that's setting
37:46
yourself that goal. I think that
37:46
will reward you tenfold. Moving
37:50
on, I'd
37:50  Trev
like to think it would do
37:50
yes, I
37:52  Wayne
bet yourself on there.
37:52
Now you've put me off, I did
37:55
nothing. Okay. We chose to and
37:55
so I've got I've got actually
38:01
what I want to do is make sure
38:01
that after the time we've had
38:05
just now that this year is a
38:05
very social one, we get back to
38:09
normality with about you know,
38:09
and make sure that I'm happy to
38:12
go out and enjoy these big
38:12
festivals that we've spoken
38:15
about and some of the podcasts,
38:15
the gigs, get big back to
38:19
normality and also expand on
38:19
some of the things that I've
38:22
sort of touching on where I've
38:22
gone. Oh, for example, I bought
38:26
a boat. I'm lucky enough to have
38:26
a boat and which is nice in the
38:29
Marina. I have no clue how to
38:29
really use the finger. You know,
38:32
people say can you turn up Come
38:32
meet you at West mercy, Marina
38:36
and I don't get there. It's not
38:36
like a TomTom. where it goes
38:39
turn on night. I've tried it and
38:39
I've got lost in the North Sea
38:42
somewhere. You know, it's just,
38:42
you know, I need to learn a bit
38:45
more about that. So I mean, it
38:45
sounds like a very strange goal
38:48
to have. But I shouldn't be take
38:48
that trip sell it. I need to not
38:52
take that for granted having
38:52
about I mean, it's cool to go
38:54
down the Marina, sit on it with
38:54
a candle or a glass of wine and
38:58
craft some, you know, some
38:58
sandwiches and everything else
39:01
and sit there
39:02  Unknown
in a word. Yes, you're
39:02
using it as
39:05  Wayne
a holiday home. There's
39:05
about 10 minutes from my house.
39:08
But it's ridiculous. But you
39:08
know, things like that. I want
39:12
to enjoy the things that I
39:12
already have. And I think that's
39:14
a testament trip. Like not take
39:14
things for granted. I think
39:16
that's really good one to end
39:16
with, I believe.
39:19  Trev
Yeah. And very quickly as
39:19
well. He sounded like it's been
39:23
quite a serious podcast, we, you
39:23
know, in a white haze, but just
39:27
to lighten the mood. We've spoke
39:27
about
39:32  Wayne
a Russian guy quite a
39:32
bit, haven't we? I can't think
39:35
of you mean, who sort of
39:35
particular i think you know who
39:38
he is, I don't know.
39:40  Trev
We've managed to track him
39:40
down. And we've done a little
39:44
interview with him. And it's
39:44
only a short interview. He
39:47
didn't really want to kind of
39:47
advertise the fact that he was
39:51
available all the time, but we
39:51
have managed to track him down.
39:54
So once we've finished this we
39:54
will actually play the little
39:57
interview is a little warm up to
39:57
the next season.
40:00  Wayne
It's somebody I've
40:00
mentioned a few times throughout
40:03
the podcast, and his name is
40:03
Eugene Nicola cough.
40:08  Trev
That's the incident. We've
40:08
managed to track him down. And
40:12
we've got a short little
40:12
interview we'll play after this
40:14
seminar. Just a lot
40:16  Wayne
just know just to lighten
40:16
it. Yes, please don't take this
40:19
podcast as you know this. As I
40:19
say, we're summing up the mid
40:22
life less ordinary. We want to
40:22
we like to have the fun we have
40:25
we've all you listeners as well
40:25
interacting and everything. But
40:28
we also want to show you know,
40:28
there is a serious time
40:31
somewhere about your joy in
40:31
life. So go out there live your
40:36
mid life less ordinary, or
40:36
wherever life is your living.
40:39
Enjoy. Eugene Nicola cough.
40:39
Thank you. Cheers, everyone.
40:44
We'll see you in season two.
40:45  Unknown
Cheers.
40:49  Trev
Hello, as promised, we've
40:49
managed to find our interviewee
40:53
tonight. It's a guy that we
40:53
spoke a lot about. is these fly
40:58
from Russia? by telephone, so
40:58
bear with us because obviously
41:03
sometimes the telephone system
41:03
in Russia isn't that great. And
41:06
I know he's, you know, secret
41:06
location at the moment. Good
41:11
evening, Mr. nikka. polikoff.
41:11
Oh, can I go? Oh, can I call
41:15
you? Hello? Can I call you
41:15
Eugene? liqueur. polikoff. Boy,
41:24
Eugene, or is it Nick, Nick. Mr.
41:24
Nick, Apollo. How would you like
41:28
to be known? Nicola. Thank you.
41:28
Thank you. Why would you like to
41:35
ask Mr. Nicola cough? A little
41:35
bit of background please.
41:39  Wayne
certainly will. Mr.
41:39
Nicola cough. Is it true that
41:43
you were found on a Russian
41:43
dating site known as the spy who
41:48
loves you?
41:51  Eugene Nickabolocov
I'd rather
41:51
not say,
41:53
okay, that's fine with me.
41:55  Trev
Anything you don't feel
41:55
comfortable off on with Mr.
41:59
Nicola cough? Obviously, just a
41:59
yes or no? Or how in Russian
42:03
USA. Call me Eugene. Eugene. I
42:03
feel a lot more comfortable
42:08
calling you Eugene. I must admit
42:08
I feel a lot more comfortable.
42:12
Back to the dating site very
42:12
quickly. Just something Did you
42:15
find love on this day inside?
42:15
eg? Very much. Very much love
42:22
very much. Obviously a popular
42:22
guy, a very popular guy. wine.
42:31
So I missed the line was bad. So
42:31
I have a lot to offer. Yes. So
42:37  Wayne
that's what we've heard.
42:37
And the next question we'd like
42:39
to ask you, we've heard that.
42:39
Obviously, this is sensitive
42:42
information and why you're in
42:42
hiding? Is that your ex KGB and
42:46
you're a dissident. Now, you're,
42:46
you know, you're opposing the
42:48
regime in Russia because of what
42:48
happened at Chernobyl. Is that
42:52
it? Can you confirm or deny that
42:52
Eugene?
42:56  Eugene Nickabolocov
Yes. It's
42:56
true. It's true.
43:01  Trev
early marriage, right,
43:01
because we have obviously we
43:04
don't really kind of want to
43:04
push you on the sensitive matter
43:08
of having three testicles. Do
43:08
you believe that the three
43:12
testicles is linked to the
43:12
Chernobyl incident?
43:20
It's very possible. Right? Yeah.
43:20
Yes. Did you very quickly as
43:26
well. I know. I keep saying the
43:26
base dating site, because we did
43:29
find it quite interesting
43:29
tracking you down? Do you think
43:31
that having three testicles is
43:31
made you more popular on that
43:34
day inside? Did you did you tell
43:34
that the ladies I was what I'm
43:37
saying is ladies, you might have
43:37
been looking for other other
43:40
people. Did it make you feel the
43:40
add you something extra to give?
43:46
Please, Trevor?
43:47  Wayne
Don't ask Eugene that
43:47
question. Russians are very
43:50
militant in this fashion. So
43:53  Trev
perhaps I'm just getting a
43:53
bit too far. I apologize.
43:56
Eugene, I really do.
43:57  Wayne
Can I ask though, Eugene,
43:57
if we're still allowed to call
44:00
you that, obviously, is having
44:00
an extra testicle from a
44:05
scientific point of view.
44:05
Because I'm interested in this
44:08
type of thing. Does that mean
44:08
you have more testosterone?
44:12  Eugene Nickabolocov
is
44:12
certainly true. You know, you
44:14  Wayne
sound very masculine to
44:14
be honest. You sound Yes, you
44:17
do. You're very you know, you
44:17
couldn't ask for a more
44:19
masculine man than you
44:19
definitely just from your voice.
44:22
I'm not, you know, I mean that.
44:22
That's from the bottom of my
44:24
heart. I'm not blowing smoke.
44:27  Trev
Thank you. Have you found?
44:27
Have you found Eugene, through
44:30
your testosterone you've become
44:30
more hairy or is that?
44:36  Eugene Nickabolocov
This is
44:36
very true. Right.
44:43  Trev
I'm glad you've agreed to
44:43
this interview. Because we have
44:45
mentioned you've often and some
44:45
of our listeners were quiet in
44:51
the background. Have you have
44:51
you taken any steps to have the
44:56
testicle removed? Does it make
44:56
you feel uncomfortable? Do you
44:59
sit properly Can you Sit down in
44:59
any kind of chair, is it? Oh, I
45:04
see is nothing to do with you.
45:04
Right? I'd say again, I'm
45:10
pushing it to fight again. I
45:10
apologize.
45:13  Wayne
If obviously, if you
45:13
listen to the podcast generally,
45:17
Eugene, you would take note that
45:17
Trevor often dropping himself in
45:20
it is just obviously we don't
45:20
usually have ex KGB and he
45:23
doesn't mean to do it. I can
45:23
promise you that he's a good
45:26
man. Yes, yes. Yes. Please don't
45:26
take offense with anything he
45:31
says.
45:33  Eugene Nickabolocov
be the
45:33
judge of that.
45:36  Trev
Yeah. The thing is with
45:36
with with the nations of the UK,
45:42
and the Russian nations,
45:42
obviously, our cultural
45:44
differences are very wide apart.
45:44
Did you do wear tight trousers?
45:54
Is that allowed? Sorry, I'd say
45:54
I'm going over at times. I just
45:59
just be I just can't get past a
45:59
novelty effect. I again, I
46:03
apologize. I really do. I really
46:03
do.
46:07  Wayne
I think I think before we
46:07
offend you, Eugene, as you can
46:10
say, Eugene prefers the mic in
46:10
technique,
46:13  Eugene Nickabolocov
then. I
46:13
shall be.
46:16  Wayne
I feel a bit worried. I
46:16
mean, can I just ask you,
46:19
Eugene, is there any chance that
46:19
you may be going umbrella
46:23
shopping anytime soon?
46:28  Eugene Nickabolocov
Just wait.
46:33  Trev
Just to be I'm just hoping
46:33
that the weather stays good now.
46:36
And I because I walked to work.
46:36
So I'm an easy target. To be
46:40
honest, I really admire
46:43  Wayne
you. But definitely. But
46:43
it's as you know, to wrap up
46:48
this room, you've been very
46:48
informative. Eugene, and thank
46:50
you for for joining us. As Trev
46:50
said, Can I use any word you'd
46:54
like to say this idiom? mid life
46:54
less ordinary audience out
46:57
there.
47:00  Eugene Nickabolocov
I have
47:00
enjoyed podcasts very much.
47:04  Wayne
Oh, that's nice.
47:05  Unknown
Thank you. Thank you.
47:05
It's good. Very good.
47:07  Wayne
Thank you. We really
47:07
means a lot. Maybe we could do a
47:09
follow up. How about you and
47:09
you're sorry, I don't know how
47:14
to put it in.
47:15  Unknown
I don't want to go
47:15
NATO.
47:17  Wayne
So So yeah, maybe we can
47:17
do a follow up on the go node
47:22
extra go node. Yes. Moving
47:22
forward, but we'll keep in touch
47:25
on this. Not on the spy who
47:25
loves you, obviously. But we
47:28
will keep in touch moving
47:28
forward. Thank you for joining
47:30
us. Eugene. Thank you so much.
47:30
Thank
47:32  Trev
you, Jay. Thank you, Mr.
47:32
Knickerbocker.
47:34  Wayne
Good. Dr. Daniel Smith,
47:34
Daniel.
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