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episode 14: Riding Motorbikes: Show Us Your Helmet [transcript]



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 2021-04-11  45m
 
 
00:00  John
You're listening to a mid
00:00
life less ordinary, the weekly
00:05
podcast giving you the lowdown
00:05
on becoming a cool older dude.
00:11
The good times are not afraid of
00:11
memory. It's time to start
00:15
loving them again. And here are
00:15
your hosts Wayne and Trev.
00:24  Wayne
Yeah, hello everyone
00:24
welcome back to a midlife less
00:26
ordinary season two. And this is
00:26
Episode Two of the second
00:31
season. And we are talking today
00:31
about riding motorbikes. And our
00:36
subtitle is, show us your
00:36
helmet. Now, Trev's here as
00:42
always
00:43  Trev
get your motor running
00:46  Wayne
head out on the highway,
00:48  Trev
looking for adventure
00:53  Wayne
right, thats enough of
00:53
that. Thanks for that Trev
00:57  Trev
As soon as we were doing
00:57
motorbikes. I just needed to do
00:59
that. I just needed to get it
00:59
out there.
01:01  Wayne
I could feel it. For 12
01:01
episodes actually, exactly.
01:05  Trev
I was actually doing the
01:05
kind of revving with my hands,
01:09
doing revving with my hands been
01:09
while being saved.
01:12  Wayne
So you're looking forward
01:12
to talking about motorbikes with
01:15
guest Joe?
01:15  Trev
Yeah, yeah, very much. So.
01:15
just basic clickers. I look like
01:21
a biker. So I need to know a bit
01:21
more information about it.
01:23
Really.
01:23  Wayne
It's an interesting
01:23
subject.
01:25  Trev
Now you've got a bike,
01:26  Wayne
I've got bike. Hopefully
01:26
we'll talk about it in the
01:29
podcast a little bit. I you
01:29
know, I love the mountain biking
01:33
lifestyle. It's a friendly
01:33
lifestyle bit like when you're
01:36
in a car, the only sort of hand
01:36
gesture you get is a basically a
01:39
middle finger. That's true. But
01:39
on a motorbike. Everyone goes
01:44
past it, you know, waving it,
01:44
you know, guiding towards a bush
01:47
somewhere. You know, it's it's
01:47
that kind of friendly lifestyle.
01:50  Trev
There's not a lot of sort
01:50
of subcultures that do that
01:53
isn't there? Yes. Yeah. And
01:53
drivers do. Do they do the thumb
02:02
thing, didn't they? Yeah, they
02:02
put that sort of thumb in their
02:05
little finger up?
02:06  Wayne
I certainly say yes,
02:06
definitely a midlife kind of
02:09
thing as well, you know,
02:09
affording these kind of
02:11
expensive machines and meeting
02:11
up with your mates for a bacon
02:16
sandwich somewhere and talking
02:16
about energy. I
02:18  Trev
think the Volkswagen thing
02:18
is the surfing Do you think the
02:20
hang look? Yeah, cool. So Devon
02:20
Honda lifestyle. Basically,
02:24
that's the same as running if
02:24
you if when you're running. If
02:26
you run past another jogger,
02:26
they, you know, majority of them
02:29
always put their hands up, you
02:29
know, your wife, Miss, you know,
02:32
same as the beard thing. You
02:32
know, it's good that there's a
02:35
little, little kind of respect
02:35
there. I think a lot.
02:38  Wayne
No, it's nice. Yeah,
02:38
definitely. I enjoyed that part
02:40
of it. It just gives me faith in
02:40
the human race it believe it
02:42
basically. Yeah,
02:43  Trev
yeah.
02:45  Wayne
That is, but we welcome
02:45
another guest this week as part
02:47
of our new season. And the guest
02:47
is john Bartlet. He's had a
02:51
motorbike school in the past. So
02:51
he knows all about getting you
02:53
through your training and
02:53
everything. I believe he's had a
02:55
few motorcycle adventures, I
02:55
think will pick up a lot from
02:59
this Trev. I think we will.
02:59
We'll get straight into the
03:03
interview. As I say, this one is
03:03
riding motorbikes. Show us your
03:06
helmet. I had to say that twice.
03:06
Enjoy. So john, thanks for
03:12
joining us today.
03:14  John
No problem, no problem.
03:15  Wayne
We've got a few questions
03:15
for you. And I'd like to kick it
03:17
off by basically asking how, how
03:17
did you come about getting into
03:22
motorcycles what have your love
03:22
for it?
03:26  John
To be honest, it was from
03:26
childhood and knocking around on
03:29
the site we grew up on there.
03:29
For those people that call it
03:32
the ambulance lay down in South
03:32
India with different mates. And
03:35
it was a matter of anything that
03:35
with an engine that ran you had
03:38
to draw on it, write it and and
03:38
that's where it really started,
03:41
whether it was an old moped or
03:41
an old motorcycle across the
03:44
fields. And that's how I got
03:44
into it. And I've got sort of,
03:47
I'd say, addicted since then for
03:47
a long, long time. It's for
03:52
those of you like myself, I know
03:52
you right and it is a real it's
03:57
a real addiction, and it gets in
03:57
your blood and it's it stays
04:01
with you even the times you
04:01
don't own a motorcycle. I think
04:04
it still stayed there.
04:06  Wayne
Yeah, definitely
04:06
contract.
04:07  Trev
JOHN, was it was it? What
04:07
do you think when you were
04:10
younger? Was it the adrenaline
04:10
of it
04:12  Unknown
that pulled you is
04:12
everything? Yeah, when I was
04:16
young, I was influenced by a lot
04:16
of things really, because
04:19
obviously, I was into the heavy
04:19
rock stuff. So I really loved
04:23
that. You know, the films I came
04:23
from Ryder, and I really, really
04:26
wanted. Yeah, I really wanted to
04:26
Harley's when I was younger, but
04:29
I realized very, very quickly.
04:29
The thing is, I have a very,
04:33
very expensive and out of my
04:33
price range. So I actually went
04:36
out to the sports bikes, then
04:36
you get the addiction or with
04:39
the sports bikes, you get the
04:39
sheer adrenaline rush of riding
04:43
a sports bike, whether it being
04:43
on the road or preferably on the
04:46
track. So it's sort of it took
04:46
me two different streets really,
04:52
and and then later on, I came
04:52
back to like go ride now
04:55
Harley's and I've been riding
04:55
last 20 years, but yeah, I mean
04:58
anything. I'm pretty shot me
04:58
with a two wheels and an engine
05:03
to say
05:05  Trev
you didn't say you
05:07  John
got a trip. Oh, I'm sorry.
05:07
Now just gonna say you just
05:10
think I just
05:13  Trev
gave you the spunk side of
05:13
it john Carter motocross and
05:17
stuff that weren't your deal.
05:19  Unknown
No, I want to get
05:19
across Ryder we bumped about as
05:23
kids across the fields on
05:23
anything when I was a road rider
05:26
and solia Road rider is
05:26
completely different style. So
05:31
yeah, I was solely into the road
05:31
bikes and road riding side of
05:34
things and have been ever since.
05:34
What do you right now?
05:37  Wayne
You said Harley?
05:39  Unknown
Yeah. The lightest bike
05:39
I've got is a Harley breakout
05:43
written.
05:45  John
Oh, it's about 1900 cc.
05:48  Unknown
Yes, just shy 1900 cc,
05:48
a big old library. I call them
05:53
tractors. It does it moves awry.
05:53
And it weighs about as much as a
06:00
truck it
06:01  Wayne
must weigh about about
06:01
300 kilos. So we like
06:11  Trev
to say something here.
06:11
This is like controversially Kp
06:15
bike. blog. Would that be a pain
06:15
head? Does that make me sound
06:21
like I know a bit?
06:24  Unknown
Again, sorry. I
06:24
misheard that. He said, he
06:26  Wayne
said Is it a panhead?
06:29  Unknown
No, no, no. Now going
06:29
to be Trevor Trevor? Yeah. Going
06:42
back to the heritage of
06:42
Harley's, there's all different
06:44
there's the knuckles of the pen,
06:44
the the shovel, which are the
06:46
older engines, you know, you're
06:46
building up from very early on
06:50
right to modern day stuff. The
06:50
modern day stuff is is really
06:53
based on it, but it's moved on a
06:53
bit.
06:57  Wayne
You've done the same kind
06:57
of Route as me, john, you've
06:59
gone. You've gone kind of
06:59
sportsbike obviously for the
07:03
adrenaline when you're younger
07:03
and the reactions. And then now
07:07
I mean, to be fair, my one can't
07:07
decide if it's a panda garli or
07:10
a word Harley Davidson, but it's
07:10
both, but I use a cruiser. Well,
07:16
mine, mine's a Ducati xdiavel,
07:16
which is a cruiser, but it's got
07:21
the engine of like a Pentagon.
07:22  Unknown
So it's a bit weird.
07:22
Yeah.
07:26  Wayne
So he says it's a very
07:26
well engineered cruiser, but
07:29
it's a techno cruiser. So it's
07:29
not the Harley Davidson is, is
07:33
the epitome of cruisers. It's
07:33
got that American,
07:36  Unknown
you know, high
07:36
road thing. Yep.
07:38  Trev
What do you say to a
07:38
cruiser? does it play life?
07:41  Wayne
No, it doesn't play
07:41
scooter and music plays the
07:45
Italian national anthem when you
07:45
pull up
07:53
his bat I still but as I've got
07:53
older, the comfort being
07:57
comfortable is very important.
07:57
When I'm a mother, I've got a
07:59
Ducati 748 as well, an original
07:59
one. And when I'm on that, I
08:03
can't my knees. Just kill me.
08:03
We're on the cruiser my feet
08:07
forward. I like it's like
08:07
sitting in an armchair. It's
08:09
just great. Yeah,
08:11  Unknown
he's true. strokes are
08:11
folks with bikes. But you're
08:14
absolutely right. I mean, you're
08:14
right when you go the same route
08:18
or went the same route. Same
08:18
thing. sportsbike I can't think
08:20
of anything worse now than
08:20
trussed up in a leather suit.
08:31  Trev
Or something now I have
08:34  Wayne
nothing else.
08:39  Unknown
You're often the air in
08:39
your hands on the floor.
08:46  Trev
Every weekend for me, I
08:51  Wayne
can even convince him
08:51
that he needs to keep mask off
08:53
under his helmet.
08:59  Trev
Yeah, my dude trying in
08:59
school thing. What
09:02  Unknown
What was that? Okay.
09:02
Well, basically just one state
09:05
service. You got a love of
09:05
bikes, and which I obviously did
09:08
have. The dream is to work with
09:08
bikes in a way. And so I thought
09:13
I got into my soccer training. I
09:13
like the idea of teaching. And I
09:17
got into that via another
09:17
school, training school. And
09:21
then I've got the option or
09:21
opportunity to should I say, to
09:25
take my own training school. I
09:25
have a business partner and
09:27
we've run it for 12 years. I was
09:27
in my soccer training for 16
09:31
years in total run. Yeah, yeah.
09:31
So it was it was the I enjoy
09:38
teaching. I just ran bikes all
09:38
day. Happy Days. Really?
09:42  Wayne
What qualifications Do
09:42
you need to be?
09:46  Unknown
You need to be long
09:46
suffering. You need to go. When
09:53
you go you need some formal
09:53
qualification by the driving
09:55
Standards Agency and you need to
09:55
go up depending on what exactly
09:59
you want. To teach. So you have
09:59
to you get trained by a
10:03
particular school or training
10:03
scheme. Then you go up to
10:07
Covington and Bedfordshire. And
10:07
then you're assessed by
10:11
examiners over different subject
10:11
matters regarding training. And
10:15
if you pass those elements, you
10:15
can then teach for various
10:17
levels up to your full license
10:17
unrestricted big bikes on the
10:21
road, direct taxes sort of
10:21
stuff. So you can sort of can
10:25
start off learning your craft a
10:25
bit like an apprenticeship,
10:28
really. And and then after you
10:28
get to the stage, you think,
10:32
okay, I'm good enough. Now put
10:32
me under test conditions, you
10:35
can go and take their, their
10:35
rigorous tests up there. And if
10:38
they say yes, then you're you've
10:38
got the car to train.
10:41
I said, Where did you open your
10:41
school?
10:45
Chances? I had a big training
10:45
school in terms of, as you might
10:50
not be aware, guys, I can't
10:50
reach out and originally I don't
10:52
live there anymore on north side
10:52
of Essex, on the other side of
10:55
Braintree, out of the village
10:55
out that way. But it helps it
10:59
was the place because it was
10:59
slap bang in the middle. And to
11:02
be honest, it was pretty busy.
11:02
And it was a busy school. That's
11:05
where the driving school scrape
11:05
driving school centers are based
11:09
now as well, isn't it? Yeah,
11:09
they were, I mean, eventually,
11:12
they actually moved to better
11:12
than the training the test
11:17
centers. But originally it was
11:17
in Chelmsford in terms of as you
11:21
know, it's been a bit of a hub
11:21
for success. And so it was, it
11:25
was a good area to set up. It
11:25
was when the other trading
11:28
school was before I was there.
11:28
So you had some sort of trade
11:31
already got reputation. So we,
11:31
we went from there really with
11:35
it.
11:35  Wayne
Fantastic trip. So are
11:35
you at a qualification? yet?
11:39  Trev
The qualifications? You've
11:39
got john, could you take them to
11:43
another country and use them? Or
11:43
is it different standards for
11:46
different countries
11:47  Unknown
is, is different
11:47
standards for different
11:50
countries. I mean, I'm not be
11:50
funny in this is generally quite
11:53
a high standard. And some of the
11:53
other countries are, but you go
11:57
to some of the places, I mean,
11:57
not necessarily America, but
12:01
some of the other places. And
12:01
it's very, very different that
12:03
you notice, I mean, some of the
12:03
places basically, if you can get
12:06
on a ride out of the riding
12:06
basket now, probably not, you've
12:09
got your license. We're over
12:09
here, it's very, very different.
12:16
Very different. needs to be
12:16
obviously, but so I mean,
12:20
technically, you couldn't take
12:20
those qualifications, I'm sure I
12:23
could take my trading inability
12:23
somewhere else, and training
12:27
that country and find out what
12:27
the standards are, but because
12:30
ya know why once you can ride
12:30
you can ride and if you know,
12:34
the format of teaching, then you
12:34
take out whatever bike is in
12:37
whatever country you're in.
12:38  Wayne
It's not a responsibility
12:38
being a an instructor on a
12:41
motorcycle, because when you
12:41
take people out for doing the
12:44
direct access or something on a
12:44
large motorcycle, they've only
12:48
ever rode a one to five and done
12:48
a CBT. And they ride in on their
12:51
own. You're just giving them
12:51
instructions by microphone. So
12:55
it's it's actually quite a lot
12:55
responsibility to make sure they
12:58
get home with the
12:59  Trev
microphone.
13:01  Unknown
Yeah,
13:03  Trev
I haven't done
13:03  Unknown
yet. Let's say that
13:03
you're absolutely right, when
13:06
you've got to spawn, the thing
13:06
is we've torn structure, and it
13:09
might be scary sitting next to
13:09
someone in a car, but you've got
13:12
your controls if you're a
13:12
professional house. But
13:15
motorcycle, you're right, all
13:15
you got is your voice over the
13:19
radio. So it is a big
13:19
responsibility. And it can
13:22
sometimes be well, yeah, so you
13:22
have to be super confident. And
13:27
you have to have pretty good
13:27
voice control. Because at the
13:31
end of the day, you can't
13:31
physically reach over and grab
13:33
their bike. Although sometimes
13:33
you wish you could
13:37  Wayne
without trying to make it
13:37
a put on a downer. JOHN, have
13:39
you ever had not been
13:39
responsible? But Has anyone ever
13:43
had an accident while you've
13:43
been on duty with them?
13:46  Unknown
Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean,
13:46
it's a little bit like the
13:50
lottery, eventually, the numbers
13:50
come up, because we trained
13:55
training school wise, we were a
13:55
big big school and trained. I'm
13:58
going to say 1000s rather than
13:58
hundreds of people over the
14:01
course of those years. So you
14:01
can't do that without having I
14:05
mean most of us silly little
14:05
things. And thankfully but you
14:08
are again on two wheels you are
14:08
tight undertaking that and you
14:13
you've got to realize there are
14:13
apparent risks with that as
14:17
well. But yeah, things can
14:17
happen. People make mistakes,
14:20
you get worse and people bumps
14:20
and bruises mainly because
14:24
obviously if you if you're
14:24
pretty good at your job, you
14:26
keep most things up and Trump's
14:26
and 99% of the things you see
14:30
are more dropping the block on
14:30
themselves, you know, frozen
14:34
their leg tracking their finger,
14:34
that sort of thing that the
14:37
silly little things generally
14:37
more so embarrassment than
14:41
anything else will be wrong.
14:47  Trev
All the time embarrassing
14:47
himself.
14:49  Wayne
We just talked about in
14:49
general on motorcycles which I'd
14:54
like you to elaborate please
14:59  Trev
podcast would Be on for
14:59
hours if I elaborate how you
15:02
embarrassed?
15:03  Wayne
I've got Yeah. Okay. All
15:03
right, moving on number four
15:08
next from talking to before, and
15:08
that this is something I've
15:13
never done. And I always wanted
15:13
to. And now I feel like I'm too
15:16
old because that sounds a bit
15:16
dramatic. But I believe you've
15:19
done a tour in America or route
15:19
66, which is something that was
15:23
on my bucket list, basically,
15:23
can you tell us a bit about like
15:26
the experience?
15:27  Unknown
Yeah, you're actually
15:27
going back into your body while
15:30
you're
15:35  Trev
here on this show.
15:37  Unknown
If you're into bytes,
15:37
or even into that sort of style,
15:40
and scenery is one of the best
15:40
things you can do. I cannot
15:44
praise it enough. I did it. I
15:44
took the long run at it three
15:47
weeks back in 2004. Started in
15:47
LA, when and it was pre
15:54
organized things so I flew over
15:54
there. The bikes were there.
15:58
They were no older than six
15:58
months old, the holidays and
16:00
songwriter road King. They it's
16:00
a real luxury way of doing it.
16:04
They carry event or they haven't
16:04
been I should say behind you
16:07
carrying your luggage, and you
16:07
ride to the next stop, stop,
16:11
sleep overnight, and then ride
16:11
on and ride round. And we did
16:14
basically through the Rockies
16:14
back down the middle. back down
16:19
to Death Valley right in the
16:19
middle of the middle of the
16:21
Death Valley. Why anybody wants
16:21
to live there. I really don't
16:26
imagine timeout. I'm looped back
16:26
around to the coast through
16:31
Vegas, obviously. Then we loop
16:31
back around to San Francisco and
16:35
back up Pacific Coast Highway
16:35
plan tastic scenery and what a
16:39
way to do it. I cannot sounds It
16:39
was absolutely incredible.
16:44
Honest to God, I can even replay
16:44
it in my mind. Now. I must have
16:47
took 1000s of digital
16:50  Wayne
photos. We can refer to
16:50
us on the website.
16:56  Unknown
Somewhere I've got I've
16:56
got some photos now. But yeah, I
17:00
will I will have a look. And it
17:00
was honestly you get the charm.
17:05  Wayne
inspire me, I know that
17:05
and I'm sure it will inspire a
17:07
lot of people listening to you
17:07
know, because I think that's a
17:10
dream of a lot of people to do.
17:10
America and
17:12  Trev
john was gone. Was he
17:12
quite expensive to do?
17:17  Unknown
Or was it a it was
17:17
quite expensive. But we look at
17:22
it a little bit like supposedly
17:22
a wedding. I'm gonna do this,
17:34
I'm gonna do it properly. I want
17:34
this as my wife and say making
17:38
memories. I want to take this
17:38
with me. I want to do the best
17:41
way I could. So yeah, I spent a
17:41
few quid on In fact, funny
17:43
enough I finance. I had a couple
17:43
of bikes in and I actually saw
17:47
one of our bikes to finance a
17:47
trip. Because I really wanted to
17:50
do the longest the longest trip,
17:50
you could do shorter ones, but a
17:54
penny per pound, I really wanted
17:54
to do it. You know, the three
17:56
week one, which honestly was
17:56
fantastic. And also, even if you
18:00
don't ride Incidentally, Trevor
18:00
didn't ride in when pillion and
18:05
he loved it as well. And that
18:05
was actually he stopped the
18:08
video camera. And I'm writing.
18:08
So
18:14  Wayne
funny enough, you saying
18:14
that? JOHN, we were talking
18:17
about this earlier? Because
18:17
Trevor and I were reminiscing
18:19
about a time when we were both
18:19
talking about I hadn't taken my
18:22
test even though I'd had bikes
18:22
since I was 16. Do I did we
18:27
Yeah, we in our late 20s. We I
18:27
was like Trevor hasn't got a
18:30
license. I've got I've got but I
18:30
you know, we can do it together.
18:34
And Trevor was kind of up for
18:34
it. And they didn't come back.
18:36
Because you know, there isn't
18:36
and I understand you've you
18:39
know, you, you feel like you
18:39
don't want to put yourself at
18:43
risk like that. I understand.
18:43
You know, no, I had experience.
18:45
So it was a bit less worrying.
18:45
very clumsy as well,
18:50  Unknown
man.
18:50  Wayne
But the thing is, the day
18:50
after I passed my test, I bought
18:54
600 cc might have been trips on
18:54
the back of it. So it's more
18:57
dangerous than actually doing it
18:57
himself. And I think we've been
19:01
out a night before. So I don't
19:01
know where that comes from. But
19:04
yeah, a bit just maybe let the
19:04
irony of it. And the thing I'd
19:07
be worried about if you can
19:07
reach hikers we were Yeah, you
19:11
get older you dissipates. But
19:11
the thing I'd be worried about
19:14
with a comparing a motorbike in
19:14
a marriage is the consummation
19:17
of that would be. Well,
19:17
actually, I wouldn't be worried.
19:20
Oh, I think I like my bike that
19:20
much. I don't know. I'm not I
19:22
don't know where this is going
19:22
into the
19:25  Trev
bike ride. I think I would
19:25
rather do that trip then get
19:29
married again. Yeah.
19:35  Wayne
Fair enough. Definitely.
19:35
I think that's a good question
19:37
for coming up driving. But
19:41  Trev
doing it when you're
19:41
older. Did you say if you hadn't
19:45
written for like 20 years, john,
19:45
and you were looking at and so I
19:48
could do that? I could really
19:48
get into that again. When you
19:52
get back on a bike. Does your
19:52
confidence go when you're a bit
19:56
older? Do you Are you a bit more
19:58  Unknown
yeah I mean, that's a
19:58
Yeah, that's a $64,000 question,
20:04
we're gonna cover it. Because I
20:04
think like any of us, no matter
20:08
what you did, if you haven't
20:08
done something, you've played a
20:10
sport, or you've done it, you
20:10
haven't done something for 20
20:13
years, and particularly
20:13
something that's inherently
20:15
dangerous, and it's got an
20:15
element of danger to it, the
20:18
best thing to do by far is to be
20:18
honest, swallow your pride. And
20:23
because that's what most people
20:23
suffer with, and swallow your
20:25
pride get on and go into a
20:25
little short training course
20:29
even your day back on a bike
20:29
with a skull, just to refresh
20:32
your memory. Most schools do it
20:32
now. So called a back to biking
20:36
courses. So short codes, it's
20:36
nothing to be embarrassed about.
20:38
And also, it will harm you, it
20:38
will remind you of things that
20:42
you should be doing. And when
20:42
I've done them in the past, I
20:45
found there's actually people
20:45
that 10 minutes said to me, You
20:48
know what, I never knew that.
20:48
I've been riding around all
20:50
those years and didn't realize
20:50
and so they pick things up. So
20:53
that's the best way to do it.
20:53
Because again, it's everything
20:57
moves on technology wise and
20:57
byte wise and why now understand
21:00
this because you've been writing
21:00
is the technology, the bikes,
21:03
and the speed, performance,
21:03
everything it moves on, and, and
21:08
if you haven't ridden for a
21:08
while, you will actually slow
21:11
down you've got a bit more money
21:11
to spend because you're your
21:14
middle age, hopefully and so you
21:14
can afford to do it. Take a
21:17
little bit of training. It's the
21:17
best money or spend a couple 100
21:21
quid you can buy it. You can
21:21
spend that on a little bit of
21:24
kit. Very good.
21:26  Trev
Very good advice. That's
21:26
to be I don't get his how to me
21:32
a bike. He's just two wheels and
21:32
an engine now. How can the
21:35
technology advance? Well, I'll
21:36  Wayne
manage it. Well. John's
21:36
sorry, john. If you don't mind
21:40
me. Harley davidsons. Probably
21:40
quite what technology does a
21:46
Harley I have not not too much
21:46
john does it
21:49  Unknown
was what changed?
21:51  Wayne
What technology doesn't
21:51
have all the belt you're
21:53
actually riding?
21:55  Unknown
They call him the
21:55
Harley davidsons They call him
21:58
hardly rideable. I mean, the
21:58
attractor of the motorcycle
22:03
is part of
22:05
the roughness. The agricultural
22:05
field, even though I'm not being
22:11
funny, then come on if you if
22:11
you jumped on I know your is
22:15
pretty quick. Your you jumped on
22:15
my Harley, you would be really
22:20
quite shocked. Because it's it's
22:20
got a lot of grunt. From Yes,
22:27
I'm told for naught to 60 miles
22:27
an hour. It you'll be surprised
22:31
by so surprised. And so the
22:31
trouble is with that, that's
22:35
okay. But you've got to stop the
22:35
thing. And then obviously,
22:38
there's a lot of weight in a
22:38
boat. So the brakes have got
22:41
better even on the Holly's SQL
22:41
injection. It wasn't years ago.
22:45
Yeah. I got IVs on him now, I
22:45
guess on Holly.
22:52  Wayne
I'd say you saying that.
22:52
But IBS. Obviously that's a sort
22:55
of nowaday, we take that for
22:55
granted Don't worry, but what
22:57
they can do for us as a safety
22:57
position on a bike when don't
23:00
lock up obviously when you it's
23:00
quite scary when it comes on
23:03
though. Because you were before
23:03
where which you don't you feel
23:06
it in the in the brake pedal,
23:06
don't you but with with two
23:08
wheels, you actually feel the
23:08
bike sort of shaking, but it's
23:10
actually because it's not
23:10
sliding you do it. It's doing a
23:13
better job. But my bike has
23:13
cornering control, abs, wheelie
23:20
control, speed controlled launch
23:20
control. I actually wonder what
23:26
I'm actually doing on it
23:26
sometimes. Honestly, it feels
23:31
like Marvel one hasn't got
23:31
anything. It feels like a
23:33
natural experience like your
23:33
bike. But
23:36  Unknown
yeah,
23:36  Wayne
I prefer having the
23:36
technology now, because
23:39
obviously my reactions are a bit
23:39
slower. So I would have a
23:42
Harley. I love Harley's and the
23:42
whole aura that surrounds them,
23:47
but I just wanted one last fro
23:47
Evan saying that suits comfort.
23:51
But how do I do that sort of fun
23:51
Friel factor that magic cat.
23:55
Yeah, Do you have one? Okay, but
23:57  Unknown
you're right, it's
23:58  Wayne
a lot safer now. To go,
24:01  Trev
anything I can get out of
24:01
that is that I think I've got
24:04
quite a grant really, for human
24:04
domain
24:14  Unknown
should be really
24:18
should be down to the ground.
24:21  Wayne
Something that what
24:21
you're saying? What I noticed is
24:23
a lot as well, these premium
24:23
motorcycles. I mean, these are
24:27
very expensive machines, yours
24:27
and mine. The funny thing about
24:31
that is that the reason that we
24:31
can afford these these machines
24:34
is because we're older. This is
24:34
a bit of an irony there because
24:37
when I was 20 years old, I could
24:37
only afford to buy, you know, a
24:41
10 year old motorbike that
24:41
didn't have all the bells and
24:44
whistles and then really you'd
24:44
like to swap your life around a
24:47
bit and add that technology when
24:47
you're 20. Buy a you know top of
24:51
the range to get your Harley
24:51
Davidson when I was young, but
24:54
it's kind of nice because I say
24:54
I'll go to the Ducati
24:56
dealership, and I'm sure it's
24:56
the same at Harley Davidson at
24:59
fabric or wherever is You go.
24:59
And you take off your helmet in
25:03
Indonesia with all the other
25:03
guys there and everyone's like
25:06
in their 50s and 60s, because
25:06
that's the only people that can
25:09
afford these bloody machines.
25:09
Yeah,
25:10  Unknown
yeah, that's the truth
25:10
is exactly why it took me a
25:14
while to get back back to
25:14
Harley's, because it was the
25:17
cost me more than anything.
25:17
Prior to that, I wanted them but
25:22
they was just out of my reach.
25:22
And that's what you say. And a
25:25
lot of these bikes now. That's
25:25
what what Trev was saying
25:27
earlier and asking the question
25:27
about the bowling against the
25:30
blue ball in the games, the ones
25:30
that have had passes Si, and a
25:33
lot of people that wouldn't pass
25:33
a test in 1982 are not written
25:39
on a vet spa, and not written
25:39
since they technically got a
25:42
full license and then come and
25:42
buy a sports bike. Our toddler
25:46
range, what do you think it
25:46
bears no relevance to what you
25:50
asked? Oh, no relevance, but you
25:50
technically legally, you could
25:53
get them right from the shop as
25:53
long as your insurance. Yeah.
25:55
And that's quite a scary thing.
25:55
And if you've got any sense, you
25:58
wouldn't do that. But legally,
25:58
you can do.
26:03  John
So what they could do.
26:07  Unknown
To me?
26:07  Wayne
No, it's totally
26:07
different experience very small,
26:10
your own reactions? Is yourself
26:10
this does change or because the
26:14
bikes are safer.
26:16  Unknown
Yeah.
26:17  Trev
The technology wise that
26:17
you've got on your bike is
26:20
honestly his mentors. Lee, does
26:20
that make does that make you
26:23
does it make you feel sorry?
26:23
Yes.
26:24  Wayne
Because I'm not being
26:24
funny. I know when I've been out
26:27
on it. Because I'm a I'm a fair
26:27
weather rider and you go out
26:30
when the sun shining, and I know
26:30
it's gonna keep shining. Mostly
26:33
because I hate cleaning more
26:33
than anything else. But with a
26:36
Harley Davidson, you'll
26:36
understand that john, but about
26:40
when I'm going around some
26:40
buildings that you know, I'm not
26:43
great if I'm being honest, and
26:43
waiting for Trevor's clip here
26:47
but it's when I go medical, a
26:47
big tub a
26:50  Trev
lot of time around a
26:50
corner.
26:52  Wayne
We could rephrase that a
26:52
little bit better. But we're
26:56  Unknown
not exactly the most
26:56
filled guide to take.
26:59  Wayne
But I know there's been
26:59
occasions when I've been over
27:02
things that would have normally
27:02
have I would have slipped a
27:04
little bit or something and it
27:04
hasn't done it and it's quite
27:06
weird because I think that's
27:06
great. If you could think that
27:08
you could do it. Yeah. It's got
27:08
a computer in there that's
27:13
actually working out what angle
27:13
I'm at. Well fast ongoing, how
27:17
to let the wheel so it's
27:17
absolutely mental you say if you
27:20
if
27:21  Trev
it sounds like to me it
27:21
sounds like you're riding
27:24
straight Hawkwind facts.
27:27  Wayne
As we spoke about in a
27:27
previous thing. I think I'm even
27:31
doing the music because I'm
27:31
writing a long history.
27:38
But at the end of the day, they
27:38
are great fun, you know, and you
27:42
remember of any psycho
27:42
motorcycle clubs. JOHN,
27:46  Unknown
I'm no, I'm a bit of an
27:46
oddball. Like I'm, I'm what they
27:50
call I'm an anti badge wearer.
27:50
And what I mean by that is I
27:55
don't Yeah, I I like to be a bit
27:55
of an oddball I like to be I
28:02
like what I like really. And
28:02
whether that conforms or not, I
28:06
just don't care. And so I
28:06
started rugby clubs when we got
28:10
the rides are live in one of my
28:10
mates. Could might mine's got a
28:14
literally a 1948 Indian. What a
28:14
one who's got a flat track
28:21
menu, flat track Indian one, I
28:21
just got a trial. They are one
28:27
of my most golf
28:29
caddy. multistrike. And I don't,
28:29
you know, you get these elitist
28:35
things. And I don't like the
28:35
elitist thing. You get the same
28:38
in all the groups. You get the
28:38
same as you get Harley Davidson
28:41
you get the snobbery sometimes
28:41
with some people as being dumb.
28:47
Which is not me. It's not me.
28:47
Yeah, yeah, it's not me. I don't
28:51
I don't, I don't like I like to
28:51
break the mold. I don't like to
28:54
be like, I don't belong to
28:54
clubs, per se. I got we made
28:57
some things and I like all
28:57
different bikes. But no, I'm
29:00
definitely not a badger. Were
29:02  Trev
you on those bikes? You
29:02
mentioned the off your mics have
29:06
gone. Sounds like quite classic
29:06
bikes is no one really got any
29:09
newer bikes than you. Yeah,
29:09
yeah.
29:12  Unknown
I mean, the 94. You
29:12
write the 94 to 94. And you love
29:20
this. So why it's a right hand,
29:20
left hand roll. Watch. Right
29:26
hand, suicide shift gear change
29:26
by hand. Wow. So yeah. But they
29:33
had to go but the sorry. You had
29:33
to go with it. No, no, I love to
29:38
buy. You know that that bike is
29:38
probably the best part of 35 k
29:43
now. Yeah,
29:46  Wayne
so what we're saying is
29:46
exactly what we were saying.
29:49  Unknown
But yeah, I
29:50  Trev
just said there. I didn't
29:50
understand a word of it. Blah
30:00
blah blah and I was like, you
30:00
just say that
30:05  Unknown
I mean there's some
30:05
guys with some classic bites and
30:11
another guy with a 94 to it, but
30:11
there's a lot of people like
30:15
it's got a brand new flat track
30:15
Indian. A bit like Oh God, I
30:21
think he's known now. Did the
30:21
speed record come out? Yeah.
30:26
Yeah, it's bit like armar Guy
30:26
Martin road. It's the sort of
30:29
new version so there's new bikes
30:29
involved as well. So we lost a
30:32
little bit of everything
30:34  Wayne
retro now john, isn't
30:34
there were a lot of our newer
30:37
bikes style our barbers and
30:37
yeah, that is that's a big thing
30:41
now, retro looking bikes that
30:41
the technology of the modern
30:44
bikes it's
30:46  Unknown
definitely I mean, you
30:46
know, looking back at the AIDS
30:51
and all that stuff out, I mean,
30:51
you got films like Mad Max,
30:55
yeah. That is appealing. So
30:55
yeah, and that's what they've
31:01
done. They've gone Okay, well,
31:01
we're redesigned for the people
31:03
like us and we're making the
31:03
modern technology so that you
31:06
stop now and they go better and
31:06
then you can go around the
31:09
corner. So here is the
31:12  Trev
best of both worlds
31:12
really, john?
31:14  Wayne
Yeah bet Yeah. retros
31:14
always calling in so until
31:18
you're talking with Cole I think
31:18
it's that time of the week on
31:22
the podcast where we we test the
31:22
guest and don't be alarmed john
31:27
because you if you've heard the
31:27
podcast before
31:29  Trev
john we are this is well
31:31  Wayne
I've done it differently.
31:31
It's not that I can tell if I
31:34
was asking what's the two stroke
31:34
Yamaha in the 80s that took the
31:37
world by storm you'd know what
31:37
I'm talking about. But these
31:39
questions are not like that.
31:39
These are more technical to give
31:42
you both a bit of a chance so
31:42
yeah, you have to go as well
31:49
trip because I'm talking like to
31:49
leave you at you cried last week
31:51
when I left you out but don't be
31:51
alarmed at our new a new jingle
31:57
john but this is just to
31:57
introduce this segment. Test.
32:02  Unknown
Test test
32:12
yeah
32:18  Trev
I'm surprised it hasn't
32:18
freaked people out actually
32:21  Wayne
hasn't been out there
32:21
yet. Especially if you've got
32:25
headphones on that first
32:25
question to Johnson as as the
32:29
guest and so when was the first
32:29
internal combustion motorcycle
32:34
fueled by petrol invented? And
32:34
it's got multiple choices. It's
32:39
1885 1900 or 1915.
32:45  Unknown
Okay, I would say 1885
33:01  Wayne
knows much more tougher
33:01
than the normal ones about the
33:04
Magnavox whatever it is in
33:04
arcade machines. Yeah. Well,
33:10
Trevor, no question for you.
33:10
Number two in 1894. which model
33:15
you should remember this 1894
33:15
which model became the first
33:19
series production motorcycle in
33:19
the world was a a orient astir b
33:24
Hildebrand and Wolf Bullock, or
33:24
C pajot. motorcycles. First
33:30
production motorcycle. Orient
33:30
astir.
33:33  Trev
I like the sound of
33:34  John
the German one Hildebrand
33:34
de Mola. Yeah,
33:38  Trev
well, yeah. I said it yet.
33:38
Oh, he hasn't
33:44  Wayne
said it yet. Right. Oh, I
33:44
said go with you got it as my
33:55
fault technical error.
33:55
Technical.
33:58  Trev
Yet, when we buy later
33:58
hosen.
34:03  Wayne
is not Christian free to
34:03
jump in a motorcycle, or
34:07
rotational force generated by
34:07
the crankshaft is transmitted to
34:11
Which part? Is it the front
34:11
wheel? The engine or the rear
34:15
wheel?
34:17  Unknown
The rear wheel?
34:22  Wayne
To be honest, john, I
34:22
hadn't looked at these questions
34:24
if I do if I do. That one was in
34:24
there. I don't think I've ever
34:26
left that one out. I don't even
34:26
trade my god that would you got
34:29
that? Yes. That was a question
34:29
for you. Yeah. Question for your
34:39
trip. Yeah, you'll get a good
34:39
one. Now, which company has been
34:42
the largest motorcycle
34:42
manufacturer in the world? Since
34:45
1959. We have around 400 million
34:45
models in production by the end
34:50
of 2019.
34:54  Trev
What do I get?
34:57  Wayne
I just want you to guess
34:57
the secret Any motorcycle
35:01
manufacturers and I can be
35:01
Yamaha B it could be a Honda or
35:05
C it could be Suzuki think of
35:05
the obvious well,
35:14  Unknown
Yamaha
35:19  Wayne
to never go to
35:22  Unknown
I would have said
35:22
Honda.
35:26  Wayne
There's no bonus points
35:26
but just for being flashy. Yeah.
35:35
It was obvious why No, no, no, I
35:35
didn't say it's obvious. It's
35:37
not obvious obviously to
35:37
somebody who's not even into my
35:39
bot. My main news is that if
35:39
you're into my bot, you know
35:42
that Honda really have had that
35:42
sound up for a long time. The
35:46
others have copied him more
35:46
every day. Yeah, yeah. Question
35:51
five to john. The motorcycle
35:51
manufacturer Harley Davidson one
35:55
for you. Harley Davidson is
35:55
based in which US state Oh my
35:58
god, do you want to get the
35:58
answers? JOHN, would you want to
36:01
just go?
36:02  Unknown
Well, okay, you know,
36:02
is that what
36:08
it was state? Not the Oh,
36:11
no, go to choice grid obey yet
36:11
Miss Missoula,
36:16
New Mexico or Wisconsin? A
36:21
Missouri. Yeah. Is
36:24  Wayne
that Missouri? Missouri
36:24
is a B's New Mexico C is
36:29
Wisconsin.
36:36  Trev
Yes. Johnny's making me
36:36
look really stupid.
36:42  Wayne
I'm sort of engineering
36:42
it that way. I'm gonna give you
36:48
a little bonus contributor and a
36:48
little sharing with him. I'm
36:52
going to give you questions six.
36:52
Just you know, even though
36:54
time's running, we're going to
36:54
give you questions 60 so you can
36:57
redeem yourself. Which of the
36:57
following is a British
37:00
motorcycle brands? If you don't
37:00
get this you're gonna get
37:03
slapped. So, is he a Indian? Be
37:03
try out triumph. Or see Royal
37:09
Enfield
37:19  Trev
was not English, then well
37:19
in Indian English. Thrall
37:26
Enfield.
37:27  Unknown
Is it was initially in
37:27
Greece, but it's made in India.
37:31
Yeah.
37:33  Trev
Really?
37:34  Wayne
Oh, no. Never got Yeah.
37:34
And I think Indian was made in
37:36
India, and then it's English.
37:36
And then it's Indian. English.
37:44
But unfortunately, these answers
37:44
don't elaborate. So usually,
37:48
when I give you a bit of
37:48
background into the answer, I
37:49
can't really give you any
37:49
because this one doesn't give us
37:52
that background. But anyway, you
37:52
know, it's a little bit with
37:56
that John's got free out free
37:56
says a good show. And that's one
38:00
of the best we've ever done. So,
38:00
yeah, well done. Yeah, he's the
38:04
best we've had. JOHN.
38:06  Unknown
So thank you very much.
38:09  Wayne
If you've got any
38:09
summarizing questions for for
38:13
john.
38:13  Unknown
Well, no, I'm
38:16  Trev
just about to say it does
38:16
seem like a middle age thing to
38:21
get back on your bike, doesn't
38:21
it? It does seem to it's a it's
38:24
a kind of midlife crisis kind of
38:24
thing. But it doesn't seem like
38:28
it's a theme to do when you are
38:28
of a certain age. Like, I think,
38:33
yeah, to sum it up. It
38:36  Unknown
does, but you've only
38:36
got to remember that film wild
38:39
hoax. Reverend
38:45  Wayne
William H. Macy.
38:47  Unknown
Yeah,
38:48  Trev
yeah. Hold on, john. Now
38:48
he said no bad. No, go and then
38:52
Mrs.
38:53  Wayne
Smile. And now it's time
38:53
to finish for this week. And
38:58
we've run out of time.
38:58
Unfortunately. This isn't a
39:03
movie one trip. This is this.
39:03
Yeah.
39:05  Unknown
Okay.
39:07  Wayne
john travolta and Tim
39:07
Allen, Buzz Lightyear whatever
39:12
his name is. Yeah, yeah. Say I
39:12
don't know. Don't take the
39:16
pressure off. Thanks for that
39:16
trip. He's so nice to me. But
39:22
john can see what you're like
39:22
now. So yeah, no summer. Thanks
39:27
very much for that, Johnny. I
39:27
think you've hopefully given
39:30
peoples who are thinking of
39:30
taking up bikes again,
39:32
especially born again, one's
39:32
confidence to do that and what
39:36
they should be doing in order to
39:36
do it safely. Is there any final
39:39
words you'd like to say to
39:39
anyone who's thinking of getting
39:41
back?
39:43  Unknown
No, I mean, thanks for
39:43
the opportunity to come on the
39:45
podcast. It seems to be doing
39:45
well. thought this. Yeah. I just
39:51
like to say to people, be safe.
39:51
If you're going to do it. Think
39:54
about the safety aspect. Think
39:54
about what you're wearing. Get a
39:58
bit of training and got the
39:58
money, go into route 66 boys.
40:02
Lovely.
40:03  Wayne
Thanks for that. JOHN,
40:03
thank you for joining us today.
40:06
That's great. Cheers. Well, that
40:06
was really enlightening
40:11
interview Trev I really enjoyed.
40:11
I've definitely got something on
40:15
my bucket list. Now I want to go
40:15
on the route 66 across America,
40:19
what do you think?
40:20  Trev
I knew you'd say that I
40:20
knew that would would tend to
40:23
lie as your old biking. Yeah, I
40:23
I thought it was brilliant.
40:29
Yeah. JOHN obviously knows a lot
40:29
about that kind of stuff. You
40:33
can tell obviously, that the
40:33
safety issues are a big thing
40:36
for him. Because if he had
40:36
obviously had the school, yeah,
40:39
and I think, as I think I've
40:39
mentioned as well that I think
40:43
when you do get a bit older,
40:43
you're kind of bottle does go a
40:46
bit. So to get those sort of
40:46
safety measures. So weird,
40:50
again, is a good thing.
40:50
Definitely. And I really believe
40:53
in that because he's, you know,
40:53
the, the roads are dangerous
40:55
online.
40:57  Wayne
Definitely. And it gets
40:57
worse every year passes by.
41:00  Trev
I think if you want to
41:00
enjoy that kind of lifestyle,
41:03
you've got to take that into
41:03
consideration. But Harley's. And
41:07
those bikes, those kind of
41:07
colds, or just call for stop,
41:11
they just look cold. And when
41:11
you walk past them, when you see
41:14
people on them, you just think
41:14
it gives you as john said it, it
41:19
gives you a sense of freedom,
41:19
doesn't it? Yeah, the wind in
41:22
your hair, or with the wind in
41:22
the little bit of hair? Yeah, I
41:27
can see what you get so much
41:27
enjoyment out of it,
41:30  Wayne
because I'm putting the
41:30
helmet on and hide that little
41:31
bit.
41:32  Trev
Yes, you're well done. But
41:32
I think for me, really now, the
41:37
time has gotten to do it. As
41:37
much as I'd love
41:40  Wayne
Yeah. You can't be a bone
41:40
again, because you've never been
41:43
bone to it over here. So
41:44  Trev
Exactly. As you say,
41:46  Wayne
you do like a bike again
41:46
more than I do.
41:49  Trev
Staff you just think that
41:49
it would go hand in hand and you
41:52
know, I toyed with it and
41:52
thought about it but as I think
41:55
I said I've said before I'm I'm
41:55
very clumsy and stuff and I'm
42:00
aware of the fairies all the
42:00
time. I don't mean nine
42:02
different nightclubs on a
42:02
Wednesday. Yes, yeah, I am. And
42:09
so I you know, even when I was
42:09
mountain biking and cycling a
42:12
lot in my younger days, I was
42:12
always having accidents and
42:15
coming off because basically I
42:15
just didn't pay enough
42:18
attention. And we've we've we've
42:18
kind of you have to be so
42:21
focused on showing your legs my
42:21
that just you know,
42:24  Wayne
I'm not going there. Yes,
42:24
I did try it. Yeah, I know. But
42:29
you are a crotch rocket in
42:29
somebody's hands who doesn't
42:33
want to pay that kind of real
42:33
focus you after he tries me out
42:36
when I get back? I mean, most
42:36
people go out on a motorcycle on
42:39
a Sunday morning to chill out. I
42:39
come back I stressed because I'm
42:43
so focused on being safe, you
42:43
know, but one person pulling out
42:46
and I've had people I know that
42:46
succumb to the the you know
42:50
that. Yeah, so you know he's
42:50
dangerous, but the lifestyle is
42:55
very cool. And I love it. But I
42:55
don't want to be riding a bike
42:59
every day. I just want to be
42:59
pulling it out the garbage
43:01
making me feel happy polishing
43:01
it and putting it back.
43:04  Trev
Everybody I know ours has
43:04
got a motorbike not many of them
43:09
ride them to work if we die off
43:09
it is sort of something you take
43:13
out your garbage. When you want
43:13
to let loose you want to forget
43:17
about things and ride you know
43:17
and if
43:19  Wayne
you do do not wear them
43:19
polite green vest that's a
43:23
polite on the back look like
43:23
police. You look like a complete
43:27
soul if you want to look like a
43:27
policeman but as honestly these
43:30
is well known in biking
43:30
fraternity. These guys that ride
43:34
around in the middle of the
43:34
traffic jams in the morning. And
43:36
they've got like a high vis vest
43:36
on and it says polite in
43:40
checkered black and white vote
43:40
and you think it's police. But
43:43
basically they just said polite
43:43
give me space and it's so sad.
43:46
Do not wear that stuff. So
43:46
that's just my little tip for
43:49
motorcycling. Even if you just
43:49
do not wear them vest, wear good
43:53
levers look cool. And enjoy.
43:53
Enjoy your motorcycling.
43:57  Unknown
I was gonna go out and
43:57
one of them at the weekend.
43:59
Yeah, I
43:59  Wayne
was gonna say I'll buy
43:59
you one for Christmas. I'd love
44:01
to see you walking around and
44:01
you're getting pained by older
44:03
bikers. We've done you've done
44:03
worse. Let's be honest. Come on.
44:09  Unknown
An absolute treat for
44:09
the ladies that exactly will be
44:12
ready. We'll put that up on the
44:12
website.
44:15  Wayne
So I think that's that's
44:15
sums up this podcast, all about
44:19
motorbikes. We hope you enjoyed
44:19
it. If you've got any questions
44:22
about it, we can pass on to
44:22
john, as always, please visit
44:25
the website, www dot mlo
44:25
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44:29
enough to leave us a review, or
44:29
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44:32
want to do, please do do that as
44:32
well. Any last words trip? Not
44:35
not literally.
44:38  Trev
Which I would do if I was
44:38
on a motorbike. Yeah. Brilliant.
44:41
Loved it really, really
44:41
interesting. You know,
44:44  Wayne
get it on the highway.
44:44
Lovely. Yes, sing again. Thanks,
44:48
Trey. And we'll see you on the
44:48
next one. Cheers, everyone. Bye
44:51
Bye.
44:55  John
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44:55
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44:58
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