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episode 20: It's all about the numbers! Google 100m, Amazon 1.5bn, Podcast Index 2.7m plus interviews with Juliana Meyer CEO Supapass and Elsie Escobar Libsyn. [transcript]


Join Sam Sethi and Matt Deegan on this week's jam packed & informative show

INTERVIEWS:

 - Elsie Escobar - Libsyn talking about Libsyn 5 beta 1

 - Juliana Meyer - Supapass - one website and app for your content, community and paywall.

NEWS

 - Google Podcasts has hit 100m installations on Android.

 - Amazon Podcasts launched to more than 1.5bn potential listeners in France, Italy, Spain and India.

 - Libsyn has acquired Glow, Inc

 - VOX Media buys Cafe Studios

 - Podcast Index now has 2.7m shows in its index

 - PLINK has switched to using Podcast Index 

 - Poductivity, a method of offering interaction and engagement for podcasts, has launched an early alpha

 - Buzzsprout now has 100,000 active podcasts

 - Facebook is testing Hotline, a Clubhouse-like service 

 - RØDE Microphones has released RØDE Connect

 - Patreon has raised $155m in a new funding round

EVENTS

 - Podcast Day 24 - www.podcastday24.com

 - She Podcasts - October 14th - 17th - www.shepodcasts.com

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 2021-04-15  1h8m
 
 
00:01  James
Welcome
00:01
to
00:01
Podland.
00:02
Podland
00:02
sponsored
00:03
by
00:03
Buzzsprout
00:04
the
00:04
easiest
00:04
way
00:05
to
00:05
host,
00:05
promote
00:06
and
00:06
track
00:06
your
00:06
Podcast
00:07
therapist
00:07
brown.com.
00:08
It's
00:09
Thursday,
00:09
April
00:10
the
00:10
15th,
00:10
2021.
00:12
I'm
00:12
James
00:12
Cridland,
00:12
the
00:12
editor
00:13
of
00:13
pod
00:13
news
00:13
here
00:14
in
00:14
Australia,
00:14  Sam
Lauren,
00:15
Sam
00:15
Sethi
00:15
here
00:16
in
00:16
the
00:16
UK.
00:17  James
Podland
00:18
is
00:18
a
00:18
weekly
00:18
podcast
00:19
where
00:19
Sam
00:19
and
00:19
I
00:19
delve
00:20
deeper
00:20
into
00:21
the
00:21
week's
00:21
podcasting
00:22
news.
00:23
Now
00:23
the
00:23  
big
00:23  Sam
stories
00:24
this
00:24
week
00:24
seem
00:25
to
00:25
be
00:25
about
00:25
the
00:26
numbers,
00:26
James,
00:27
a
00:27
hundred
00:28
million,
00:28
1.5
00:29
billion,
00:30
1.3
00:31
million,
00:32
two
00:32
inch
00:32
two
00:32
and
00:32
a
00:32
half
00:32
thousand
00:33
2.7
00:34
million
00:34
and
00:35
10,000.
00:36
Do
00:36
you
00:36
know
00:36
what
00:36
I'm
00:36
talking
00:37  James
about,
00:37
Jamie?
00:37
yes.
00:38
Okay.
00:39
but
00:39
only
00:39
because
00:39
I
00:40
couldn't
00:40
read
00:40
the
00:40
script,
00:41
why
00:41
don't
00:41
you
00:41
start
00:42
with
00:42
one
00:42
of
00:42
those
00:43
a
00:43
hundred
00:43  Sam
million,
00:44
a
00:44
hundred
00:44
years.
00:44
James
00:45
Google
00:45
Podcast
00:46
is
00:46
hit
00:46
a
00:46
hundred
00:47
million
00:47
installations
00:48
on
00:48
Android
00:49
since
00:49
November
00:50
is.
00:50
Doubled
00:51
its
00:51
installations
00:51
and
00:51
added
00:52
support
00:52
for
00:52
subscribing
00:53
by
00:53
RSS
00:54
feeds.
00:55
It's
00:55
the
00:55
number
00:55
three
00:55
Podcast
00:56
app,
00:56
according
00:57
to
00:57
Libsyn
00:57
and
00:58
Buzzsprout.
00:59
And
00:59
it's
00:59
due
00:59
to
00:59
launch
01:00
personalized
01:01
episode
01:01
recommendations
01:02
at
01:02
some
01:02
stage
01:03
this
01:03
week.
01:03
surprisingly
01:04
though,
01:04
it's
01:04
not
01:05
a
01:05
standard
01:06
install
01:06
on
01:06
new
01:07
Android
01:07
phones.
01:08
So
01:08
is
01:08
this.
01:08
Good
01:09
news
01:09
is
01:09
Google
01:10
finally
01:10
waking
01:11
up
01:11
to
01:11
podcasting.
01:12  James
It
01:13
is
01:13
good
01:13
news.
01:14
Really
01:14
nice
01:14
to
01:15
see
01:15
Google
01:16
doing
01:16
so
01:16
well.
01:17
They're
01:17
actually
01:18
launching
01:18
their
01:18
personalized
01:19
episode
01:19
recommendations
01:20
next
01:20
week.
01:21
I'm
01:21
now
01:21
telled.
01:22
so
01:22
that
01:22
will
01:23
launch
01:23
slowly
01:24
during
01:25
next
01:25
week
01:26
and
01:26
be
01:26
up
01:26
to
01:27
a
01:27
hundred
01:27
percent
01:27
of
01:27
everybody
01:28
by
01:29
the
01:29
end
01:29
of
01:29
next
01:30
week.
01:30
And
01:30
that's
01:30
pretty
01:31
good
01:31
because
01:31
you'll
01:31
be
01:31
able
01:32
to
01:32
finally
01:33
get
01:33
rid
01:33
of
01:33
Joe
01:33
Rogan
01:34
and
01:34
things
01:34
like
01:35
that
01:35
from
01:35
your
01:36
podcast
01:36
app,
01:36
if
01:37
you
01:37
want
01:37
to.
01:38
But
01:38
the
01:38
fact
01:39
that
01:39
they've
01:39
reached
01:39
a
01:39
hundred
01:40
million
01:40
installations
01:41
is
01:41
pretty
01:41
big.
01:42
then
01:42
the
01:42
next
01:43
closest
01:43
are
01:44
Podcast
01:45
addicts,
01:45
which
01:45
has
01:46
10
01:46
million,
01:46
I
01:46
think
01:47
in
01:47
box.
01:48
They're
01:48
not,
01:48
they're
01:49
nowhere
01:49
near
01:49
as
01:49
large.
01:50
When
01:51
you
01:51
look
01:51
at
01:51
some
01:52
of
01:52
the
01:52
data,
01:52
which
01:52
is
01:53
all
01:53
over
01:53
the
01:53
place,
01:53
you
01:53
can
01:54
see
01:54
that
01:54
Google
01:54
Podcast
01:55
is
01:55
a
01:55
pretty
01:56
standard.
01:56
Number
01:56
three
01:57
in
01:57
the
01:57
Podcast
01:58
listings
01:59
that
01:59
said
02:00
it's
02:00
number
02:00
three
02:00
with
02:01
about
02:01
2.5%
02:03
of
02:03
all
02:04
plays.
02:04
So
02:05
it's
02:05
not
02:05
massive,
02:06
but
02:06
nevertheless,
02:07
it's
02:07
a
02:07
really
02:08
important
02:09
bit
02:09
of
02:09
the
02:09
Podcast
02:10
landscape,
02:10
I
02:10
think.
02:11  Sam
Okay.
02:11
now
02:12
talking
02:12
of
02:13
Podcast
02:13
players,
02:14
number
02:14
three,
02:15
let's
02:15
talk
02:15
about
02:16
number
02:16
four.
02:17
So
02:17
the
02:17
number
02:17
we're
02:17
going
02:18
to
02:18
talk
02:18
about
02:18
is
02:18
1.5
02:19
billion.
02:20
Amazon
02:20
Podcast
02:21
has
02:21
just
02:21
launched
02:21
to
02:22
more
02:22
than
02:22
1.5
02:23
billion
02:24
potential
02:24
listeners
02:24
in
02:25
France,
02:25
Italy,
02:26
Spain,
02:26
and
02:27
India.
02:27
What's
02:27
going
02:28
on
02:28
with
02:28
Amazon.
02:28  James
So
02:29
they're
02:29
slowly
02:30
expanding.
02:31
It's
02:31
nice
02:31
to
02:31
see
02:32
Amazon,
02:32
which
02:32
I
02:33
think
02:33
up
02:33
until
02:34
now
02:34
has
02:34
been
02:34
available
02:35
in
02:35
the
02:35
U
02:35
S
02:36
in
02:37
the
02:37
UK,
02:38
Japan
02:39
and
02:40
Germany.
02:41
And
02:41
they've
02:41
just
02:41
added
02:41
France,
02:42
Italy
02:43
and
02:43
Spain
02:43
and
02:44
India.
02:44
Of
02:44
course,
02:45
India
02:45
has
02:45
well
02:46
over
02:46
a
02:46
billion
02:46
people
02:47
who
02:47
live
02:47
there
02:48
France,
02:48
Italy,
02:48
and
02:48
Spain
02:49
being
02:49
rather
02:49
a
02:49
lot
02:49
smaller.
02:50
Good
02:50
to
02:50
see.
02:51
Amazon
02:51
continue
02:52
to
02:52
grow.
02:53
One
02:53
of
02:53
the
02:53
things
02:53
that
02:54
they've
02:54
also
02:54
done
02:55
is
02:55
that
02:55
they've
02:55
also
02:56
stuck
02:56
in
02:57
a
02:57
couple
02:57
of
02:58
specials
02:58
in
02:59
there
02:59
in
03:00
Italy.
03:00
You'll
03:01
be
03:01
able
03:01
to
03:01
get
03:02
an
03:02
exclusive
03:03
version
03:03
of
03:04
Dr.
03:04
Death
03:05
in
03:06
Italian
03:06
and
03:06
also
03:07
bunga,
03:08
of
03:08
course,
03:08
because
03:09
it's
03:09
a,
03:09
the
03:09
big
03:09
story
03:10
about
03:10
the
03:11
ex
03:11
prime
03:11
minister
03:12
of
03:12
of
03:13
Italy,
03:13
Silvio,
03:14
Berlusconi,
03:15
and
03:15
they've
03:16
rather
03:16
bravely
03:16
translated
03:17
that
03:17
into
03:18
Italian
03:19
as
03:19
well.
03:19
So
03:19
that
03:19
should
03:20
be
03:20
pretty
03:20
good.
03:21
So
03:21
they're
03:21
doing
03:22
quite
03:22
a
03:22
lot
03:22
of
03:22
interesting
03:23
things.
03:23
The
03:23
other
03:24
thing
03:24
that
03:24
they've
03:24
only
03:24
just
03:25
announced
03:25
is
03:26
Amazon's
03:26
new
03:27
headphones,
03:28
which
03:28
are
03:28
Alexa
03:29
powered.
03:29
Of
03:29
course,
03:30
one
03:30
of
03:31
the
03:31
things
03:31
you'll
03:31
be
03:31
able
03:31
to
03:32
do
03:32
with
03:32
Alexa.
03:33
Relatively
03:34
soon,
03:34
including
03:35
these
03:35
new
03:35
headphones
03:36
is
03:36
you'll
03:36
be
03:36
able
03:36
to
03:37
say,
03:38
Alexa,
03:38
play
03:39
my
03:39
followed
03:39
podcasts
03:41
and
03:41
it
03:41
will
03:41
play
03:41
any
03:42
podcasts
03:42
that
03:42
you
03:42
are
03:43
currently
03:44
following
03:45
on
03:45
your
03:45
Amazon
03:46
podcasts
03:47
app.
03:47
that's
03:48
all
03:48
very
03:48
exciting.
03:48
They
03:48
haven't
03:49
launched
03:49
here
03:49
in
03:49
Australia
03:50
yet
03:50
though.
03:50
So
03:50
I've
03:51
no
03:51
idea
03:51
what
03:51
Amazon
03:52
Podcast
03:52
looks
03:52
like
03:53
or
03:53
how
03:53
it
03:54
works,
03:54
but
03:54
I'm
03:54
sure
03:54
it's
03:55
very
03:55
good.
03:55  Sam
I
03:55
have
03:55
to
03:55
say
03:55
I
03:55
had
03:56
a
03:56
pair
03:56
of
03:56
the
03:56
old
03:57
Amazon
03:57
Alexa
03:58
Podcast,
03:59
ear
03:59
buds
03:59
until
04:00
my
04:00
puppy
04:00
dog
04:01
at
04:01
them.
04:01
So
04:02
there
04:02
you
04:02
go.
04:02
So
04:02
I
04:02
won't
04:03
be
04:03
able
04:03
to
04:03
tell
04:03
you
04:03
either.
04:04  James
Yes.
04:05  Sam
Oh
04:05
no
04:05
notes.
04:06
We
04:06
will
04:06
put
04:06
how
04:07
you
04:07
can
04:07
get
04:07
also
04:07
listed
04:08
if
04:08
you're
04:08
interested
04:09
into
04:09
the
04:09
Amazon
04:10
Podcast.
04:11
Now
04:11
you,
04:11
James
04:12
had
04:12
an
04:12
exclusive
04:13
story
04:13
or
04:13
was
04:14
it
04:14
a,
04:14
just
04:14
a
04:15
embargoed
04:15
story
04:16
last
04:16
week
04:16
that
04:16
you
04:16
couldn't
04:17
announce?
04:17
What
04:18
was
04:18
that
04:18
story
04:19
Libsyn?
04:19  James
Yes,
04:19
it
04:20
was
04:20
an
04:20
embargoed
04:20
story.
04:21
It
04:21
wasn't
04:21
an
04:21
exclusive,
04:22
my
04:22
goodness.
04:23
There
04:23
will
04:23
be
04:23
ructions
04:24
if
04:24
I
04:24
say
04:24
that,
04:25
but
04:25
anyway
04:25
they
04:26
have
04:27
acquired
04:28
a
04:28
Podcast
04:29
membership
04:29
monetization
04:30
platform
04:31
called
04:31
glow
04:32
for
04:32
$1.2
04:33
million.
04:35
That
04:35
was
04:35
some
04:35
news,
04:36
which
04:36
broke
04:37
earlier
04:37
on
04:37
this
04:37
week.
04:38
And
04:38
that's
04:39
the
04:39
third
04:40
thing
04:40
that
04:40
they
04:40
have
04:41
bought
04:41
in
04:41
the
04:41
last
04:42
couple
04:42
of
04:42
months.
04:43
So
04:43
they
04:43
bought
04:44
Podcast
04:44
production
04:45
platform,
04:45
orcs
04:45
boss.
04:46
In
04:46
February.
04:47
Earlier
04:47
this
04:47
month,
04:48
they
04:48
acquired
04:49
an
04:49
ad
04:49
company
04:50
called
04:50
advertised
04:50
cast.
04:52
So
04:52
they're
04:52
doing
04:52
some
04:52
very
04:52
clever
04:53
things
04:53
here,
04:53
which
04:53
is
04:54
essentially
04:54
there
04:55
to
04:56
continue
04:57
raising
04:58
money
04:58
and
04:58
earning
04:59
money
04:59
for
05:00
Podcast
05:00
as
05:01
advertised
05:01
cost,
05:01
making
05:02
it
05:02
really
05:02
easy
05:02
to
05:03
sell
05:03
advertising
05:04
and
05:04
sell
05:05
reads
05:05
and
05:06
stuff
05:06
like
05:06
that.
05:06
And
05:07
now
05:07
they've
05:07
got
05:07
glow,
05:08
which
05:08
is
05:08
essentially
05:09
a
05:09
Patrion
05:10
type
05:10
of
05:10
service
05:11
as
05:11
well.
05:11
So
05:12
quite
05:12
neat.
05:13
Announcements
05:14
from
05:14
Libsyn.
05:15
It's
05:15
interesting
05:16
to
05:16
see
05:17
also
05:17
interesting,
05:18
by
05:18
the
05:18
way,
05:18
because
05:19
in
05:19
January,
05:20
the
05:20
CEO
05:21
of
05:22
the
05:22
company
05:22
stood
05:23
up
05:23
or
05:23
the
05:23
president
05:23
of
05:24
the
05:24
company
05:24
stood
05:24
up
05:24
and
05:25
said
05:25
that
05:25
they
05:25
were
05:25
absolutely
05:26
not
05:26
going
05:26
to
05:26
be
05:26
buying
05:27
any
05:27
companies
05:27
whatsoever.
05:28
But
05:29
of
05:29
course
05:29
they
05:29
would
05:29
say
05:29
that
05:30
wouldn't
05:30
they,
05:30
but
05:30
nice
05:30
to
05:31
actually
05:31
see
05:31
them.
05:31
I
05:31
think
05:32
Libsyn
05:32
is
05:32
doing
05:33
some
05:33
really
05:33
interesting
05:34
stuff
05:34
right
05:34
now.
05:35  Sam
And
05:35
the
05:35
good
05:35
news
05:35
is
05:35
I
05:36
actually
05:36
caught
05:37
up
05:37
with
05:37
Elsie
05:38
Escobar.
05:38
Who's
05:39
one
05:39
of
05:39
their
05:39
community
05:40
advocates.
05:41
And
05:41
I
05:41
started
05:41
off
05:41
by
05:42
asking
05:42
her
05:42
about
05:42
lip-sync
05:43
five.
05:44
And
05:44
also
05:45
some
05:45
of
05:45
these
05:45
acquisitions,
05:46
Oh
05:46  Elsie
my
05:47
goodness.
05:47
It's
05:47
been
05:48
a
05:48
long
05:48
time
05:48
coming.
05:49
It's
05:49
something
05:49
that
05:50
the
05:50
team
05:50
has
05:50
been
05:50
diligently
05:51
working
05:51
on
05:52
for
05:52
so
05:52
long.
05:53
And
05:53
it's
05:53
been
05:53
so
05:54
hard
05:54
to
05:54
just
05:55
keep
05:55
it
05:55
all
05:55
under
05:55
wraps
05:56
whenever
05:56
you
05:56
hear
05:57
folks
05:57
going,
05:57
but
05:57
this
05:57
isn't
05:58
there.
05:58
Or
05:59
I
05:59
want
05:59
this
06:00
and
06:00
we're
06:00
like,
06:00
wait,
06:00
it's
06:00
coming.
06:00
It's
06:01
coming.
06:01
But
06:02
this
06:02
is
06:02
a
06:02
whole
06:02
new
06:03
interface.
06:04
It
06:04
has
06:04
wonderful
06:05
new,
06:06
simple
06:07
episode
06:07
publishing
06:08
lovely
06:09
stats
06:10
where
06:10
you
06:10
can
06:10
see
06:11
all
06:11
kinds
06:11
of
06:11
wonderful
06:12
information.
06:13
As
06:13
soon
06:13
as
06:13
you
06:13
get
06:13
in
06:14
there
06:14
to
06:14
see
06:14
exactly
06:15
what
06:15
you
06:15
want
06:15
to
06:15
see
06:16
without
06:16
having
06:16
to
06:16
dig
06:17
through
06:17
there's
06:18
new
06:18
Podcast,
06:19
page
06:19
designs,
06:20
new
06:20
show,
06:20
branding,
06:21
settings,
06:22
player
06:23
designs,
06:24
and
06:24
then
06:24
all
06:24
kinds
06:24
of
06:24
lovely
06:25
settings
06:25
for
06:25
destinations.
06:26
And
06:27
it's
06:27
really
06:27
set
06:27
to
06:28
expand
06:29
with
06:29
any
06:30
kind
06:30
of
06:30
partnerships
06:31
or
06:31
any
06:31
kind
06:31
of
06:31
new
06:32
destinations
06:33
or
06:33
all
06:34
of
06:34
those
06:34
things
06:34
that
06:35
are
06:35
on
06:35
the
06:35
horizon.
06:36  Sam
If
06:36
somebody
06:37
wants
06:37
to
06:37
get
06:37
involved
06:38
with
06:38
the
06:39
Bita,
06:39
where
06:39  Elsie
would
06:39
they
06:39
go?
06:40
Definitely
06:40
sign
06:41
up
06:41
for
06:41
that.
06:41
By
06:41
going
06:42
to
06:42
five.libsyn.com,
06:44
get
06:44
an
06:44
account
06:45
and
06:45
check
06:45
it
06:45
out.
06:45
It's
06:45
available
06:46
for
06:46
everybody
06:47
for
06:47
existing
06:47
lips
06:48
and
06:48
users.
06:49
If
06:49
you
06:49
are
06:49
inside
06:50
of
06:50
your
06:50
account,
06:51
right
06:51
at
06:51
the
06:51
top,
06:52
it
06:52
says.
06:52
If
06:53
you
06:53
want
06:53
to
06:53
check
06:53
out
06:53
lips
06:54
and
06:54
five
06:54
right
06:54
at
06:54
the
06:54
top
06:55
of
06:55
the
06:55
dashboard
06:56
and
06:56
you
06:56
can
06:56
click
06:56
through,
06:57
and
06:57
both
06:57
of
06:58
those
06:58
are
06:58
existing
06:59
simultaneously,
07:00
a
07:00
Twitter
07:00
or
07:01
Facebook
07:01
update
07:01
their
07:02
stuff.
07:02
And
07:02
then
07:02
all
07:02
of
07:02
a
07:03
sudden
07:03
you're
07:03
like
07:03
stuck
07:03
within
07:04
you
07:04
interface.
07:04
And
07:04
you're
07:04
like,
07:05
Oh
07:05
my
07:05
God,
07:05
make
07:06
it
07:06
stop.
07:06
So
07:07
new
07:07
people
07:08
who
07:08
are
07:08
signing
07:08
up
07:09
for
07:10
a
07:10
Libsyn
07:10
as
07:10
of
07:11
now
07:11
are
07:11
going
07:11
to
07:12
be
07:12
put
07:12
into
07:12
Libsyn
07:13
five
07:13
and
07:13
they'll
07:14
have
07:14
accessibility
07:14
to
07:15
lips
07:15
in
07:15
four,
07:15
but
07:15
they
07:15
are
07:16
initially
07:16
into
07:16
lips
07:17
in
07:17
five.
07:17
And
07:17
those
07:17
of
07:18
folks
07:18
that
07:18
are
07:18
still
07:19
using
07:19
lips
07:19
and
07:19
four
07:20
can
07:20
go
07:20
check
07:20
out
07:21
lips
07:21
and
07:21
five.
07:21
And
07:22
eventually
07:22
everything's
07:23
going
07:23
to
07:23
move
07:23
over
07:23
to
07:23
lips
07:24
and
07:24
five,
07:24
all
07:25
the
07:25
new
07:25
features
07:25
are
07:25
going
07:25
to
07:25
be
07:26
added
07:26
over
07:26
there.
07:26
Everything's
07:27
going
07:27
to
07:27
be
07:27
expanded
07:28
there.
07:28
But
07:28
as
07:29
you
07:29
mentioned
07:29
before,
07:29
it
07:29
is
07:29
a
07:30
beta
07:30
right
07:30
now.
07:31
And
07:31
therefore
07:32
there
07:32
are
07:32
some
07:32
things
07:33
that
07:33
are
07:33
not
07:34
available.
07:35
And
07:35
if
07:35
you
07:35
do
07:35
those
07:36
fancy
07:36
things
07:37
that
07:37
a
07:37
lips
07:38
and
07:38
four
07:38
has
07:39
an
07:39
its
07:39
whole
07:40
entire
07:40
database
07:41
and
07:41
a
07:41
dashboard
07:42
in
07:42
there,
07:43
then
07:43
you
07:43
do
07:43
need
07:43
to
07:43
go
07:44
back
07:44
to
07:44
be
07:44
able
07:44
to
07:44
do
07:45
some
07:45
of
07:45
those
07:45
things.
07:46  Sam
Okay.
07:47
Now.
07:48
In
07:48
terms
07:48
of
07:49
timeline,
07:50
is
07:50
there
07:50
a
07:50
timeline
07:51
to
07:51
when
07:51
the
07:52
final
07:52
product
07:52
will
07:53
be
07:53
available?
07:54  Elsie
As
07:54
of
07:54
now?
07:54
No,
07:55
the
07:55
team
07:55
behind
07:56
the
07:56
scenes
07:57
do
07:57
have
07:57
meetings
07:58
with
07:58
us.
07:58
They
07:58
come
07:58
in
07:59
and
07:59
they
07:59
let
08:00
us
08:00
know
08:00
when
08:00
things
08:00
are
08:01
on
08:01
the
08:01
roadmap.
08:02
So
08:02
we
08:02
do
08:02
know
08:02
when
08:03
some
08:03
things
08:03
are
08:03
on
08:03
the
08:03
roadmap,
08:04
but
08:04
in
08:04
all
08:04
honesty,
08:05
I
08:05
really
08:05
don't
08:05
think
08:06
that
08:06
it's
08:06
really
08:06
ever
08:07
going
08:07
to
08:07
be
08:07
in
08:07
quote
08:08
finished.
08:08
And
08:08
I'm
08:09
not
08:09
saying
08:09
that
08:09
we're
08:09
not
08:09
going
08:09
to
08:10
come
08:10
out
08:10
of
08:10
beta
08:10
because
08:11
of
08:11
course
08:11
we
08:11
will,
08:12
but
08:13
I
08:13
do
08:13
feel
08:13
that
08:13
there's
08:13
going
08:14
to
08:14
be
08:14
a
08:14
sense
08:14
of
08:15
constantly
08:16
the
08:16
addition
08:17
of
08:17
new
08:17
features
08:17
and
08:18
the
08:18
of
08:18
refinements
08:19
and
08:19
iterations.
08:20
Even
08:20
to
08:21
be
08:21
a
08:21
one
08:21
right
08:21
now
08:21
are
08:22
going
08:22
to
08:22
continue
08:22
to
08:22
expand.
08:23
So
08:24
at
08:24
first
08:25
it
08:25
is
08:25
just
08:25
going
08:25
to
08:25
be
08:25
expanding
08:26
into
08:26
those
08:26
core
08:27
features
08:27
that
08:27
everybody
08:28
uses,
08:29
particularly
08:30
those
08:30
ones
08:31
that
08:31
are
08:31
keeping
08:32
folks
08:33
in
08:33
Libsyn
08:34
for
08:35
those
08:35
are
08:35
the
08:35
most
08:36
important
08:36
ones
08:36
to
08:36
move
08:37
people
08:37
to
08:37
live
08:37
in
08:38
five
08:38
as
08:38
well.
08:39  Sam
Now,
08:40
if
08:40
it
08:40
ain't
08:40
broke,
08:40
don't
08:41
fix
08:41
it
08:41
as
08:41
the
08:41
old
08:42
saying,
08:42
why
08:42
starter
08:43
Libsyn
08:44
five,
08:44
if
08:44
slips
08:45
and
08:45
falls
08:45
working,
08:45
why
08:46
move.
08:46  Elsie
Yes.
08:47
I
08:47
think
08:47
it's
08:47
one
08:47
of
08:47
those
08:48
things
08:48
where
08:49
I
08:49
had
08:49
a
08:49
lot
08:49
of
08:49
feedback
08:50
from
08:50
the
08:50
industry
08:50
or
08:51
from
08:51
a
08:51
lot
08:51
of
08:51
podcasters
08:52
that
08:52
really
08:52
love
08:53
the
08:53
functionality
08:54
of
08:54
our
08:54
product.
08:55
They
08:55
really
08:55
love
08:55
how
08:55
all
08:56
the
08:56
things
08:56
work,
08:57
the
08:57
episodes
08:57
are
08:58
posted,
08:58
but
08:59
that
08:59
look
09:00
of
09:00
it
09:00
or
09:00
the
09:01
feel
09:01
of
09:01
it.
09:01
Might've
09:02
been
09:02
a
09:02
little
09:02
bit
09:03
on
09:03
the,
09:04
I
09:04
don't
09:04
know,
09:04
how
09:05
would
09:05
I
09:05
say
09:05
it?
09:05
Old
09:05
fashioned
09:06
classic
09:06
design.
09:07
Oh
09:08
gosh.
09:09
I
09:09
so
09:09
love
09:10
you.
09:10
Yes.
09:11
Plastic
09:11
design.
09:12
And
09:12
so
09:13
now
09:13
we're
09:14
moving
09:14
a
09:14
little
09:14
bit
09:14
more.
09:15
Yeah.
09:15
As
09:15
sleeker
09:16
cleaner,
09:17
more
09:17
modern
09:18
feel
09:19
for
09:19
the
09:19
things
09:19
that
09:19
we
09:20
have
09:20
going
09:20
on
09:20
in
09:21
there.
09:21
And
09:21
also
09:22
one
09:22
of
09:22
the
09:22
wonderful
09:23
things
09:23
that
09:23
we
09:23
have
09:24
with
09:24
lips
09:24
in
09:24
five
09:24
and
09:24
the
09:24
team
09:25
has
09:25
really
09:25
made
09:25
it
09:26
a
09:26
priority
09:26
as
09:26
well,
09:27
is
09:27
that
09:28
there
09:28
were
09:28
some
09:28
things
09:28
on
09:28
Libsyn
09:29
four
09:29
that
09:29
were
09:29
really
09:30
challenging
09:31
to
09:31
implement
09:31
when
09:32
it
09:32
came
09:32
to
09:32
new
09:33
additions
09:33
too.
09:34
Things
09:35
that
09:35
were
09:35
coming
09:35
into
09:36
the
09:36
scene,
09:36
right?
09:37
Whether
09:37
it's
09:37
a
09:37
new
09:37
destination
09:38
or
09:38
whether
09:39
it's
09:39
like
09:39
a
09:39
new
09:40
integration
09:40
or
09:41
adding
09:41
things
09:42
to
09:42
the
09:42
interface,
09:43
just
09:44
because
09:44
of
09:44
the
09:44
way
09:44
that
09:44
it
09:45
was
09:45
built.
09:46
But
09:46
with
09:46
lips
09:46
and
09:47
five,
09:47
since
09:47
they
09:48
literally
09:48
started
09:49
from
09:49
scratch
09:49
to
09:49
build
09:50
that
09:50
entire
09:50
product,
09:51
they
09:51
have
09:51
the
09:51
ability
09:52
to
09:52
implement
09:52
these
09:53
things
09:53
in
09:53
a
09:54
way
09:54
that's
09:54
not
09:54
going
09:54
to
09:54
feel
09:55
like
09:55
you
09:55
have
09:55
to
09:55
put
09:56
a
09:56
bandaid
09:56
on
09:56
some
09:56
things
09:57
that
09:57
are
09:57
not
09:57
particularly
09:58  Sam
optimal.
09:58
Okay.
09:59
So
09:59
you're
09:59
talking
09:59
about
10:00
new
10:00
things.
10:00
Now
10:00
we
10:01
had
10:01
the
10:01
pleasure
10:02
of
10:02
having
10:02
Rob
10:02
Greenlee
10:03
a
10:03
few
10:03
weeks
10:04
back
10:04
on
10:04
the
10:04
podcast.
10:05
And
10:06
Rob
10:06
was
10:06
talking
10:07
about
10:07
the
10:07
fact
10:07
that
10:08
they're
10:08
working
10:09
with.
10:09
Adam
10:10
Curry
10:10
and
10:10
Dave
10:11
Jones
10:11
over
10:11
at
10:11
the
10:11
Podcast
10:12
index
10:12
and
10:12
the
10:12
new
10:13
namespace
10:13
and
10:14
the
10:14
new
10:14
tags.
10:15
Can
10:15
we
10:15
expect
10:16
to
10:16
see
10:16
Libsyn
10:17
five
10:18
integrating
10:18
with
10:18
any
10:19
of
10:19
that?
10:20  Elsie
Whenever
10:20
the
10:20
foundation
10:21
of
10:21
the
10:22
basic
10:22
functionality
10:23
and
10:23
the
10:24
things
10:24
that
10:24
most
10:24
folks
10:25
are
10:25
really
10:25
wanting
10:26
to
10:26
find,
10:26
I'm
10:27
talking
10:27
basic,
10:27
I'm
10:27
talking,
10:28
making
10:28
sure
10:28
that
10:29
being
10:29
able
10:29
to
10:29
publish
10:30
your
10:30
podcast
10:30
is
10:31
optimal.
10:31
Being
10:31
able
10:32
to
10:32
make
10:32
sure
10:33
that
10:33
the
10:33
everything
10:33
is
10:34
stable
10:34
on
10:34
the
10:34
backend
10:35
being
10:35
able
10:35
to
10:35
Putin
10:36
cross
10:36
published
10:36
to
10:37
all
10:37
the
10:37
places
10:37
that
10:37
you
10:38
want
10:38
to
10:38
do,
10:38
making
10:39
sure
10:39
your
10:39
stats
10:39
are
10:39
working.
10:39
All
10:40
of
10:40
those
10:40
things.
10:40
Then,
10:41
after
10:41
that,
10:42
I
10:42
know
10:42
in
10:42
the
10:42
roadmap,
10:43
there
10:43
has
10:43
been
10:43
communication
10:44
with
10:44
the
10:44
folks
10:44
over
10:45
at
10:45
Podcast
10:46
2.0,
10:47
and
10:47
I
10:47
know
10:47
that
10:47
it's
10:48
so
10:48
exciting
10:49
for
10:49
a
10:49
lot
10:49
of
10:49
folks
10:49
because
10:50
they're
10:50
doing
10:50
some
10:51
really
10:51
wonderful,
10:51
innovative
10:52
things
10:52
in
10:52
there
10:53
and
10:53
really
10:53
expanding
10:54
the
10:54
functionality
10:54
of
10:55
what
10:55
we
10:55
can
10:55
have
10:55
with
10:55
RSS
10:56
feeds
10:56
because
10:57
I'm
10:57
a
10:57
huge
10:58
fan
10:58
of
10:58
RSS
10:59
feeds.
10:59
And
10:59
so
10:59
in
11:00
that
11:00
respect,
11:01
yes,
11:01
the
11:01
idea
11:02
of
11:02
being
11:02
able
11:03
to
11:03
add
11:03
these
11:03
tags
11:04
is
11:04
being
11:05
thought
11:05
out.
11:06
And
11:06
if
11:06
there
11:07
is
11:07
communication
11:08
about
11:08
that,
11:08
and
11:08
there
11:08
will
11:09
be
11:09
implemented
11:10
about
11:10
some
11:11
of
11:11
the
11:11
tags
11:11
up
11:12
in
11:12
the
11:12
2.0
11:13
a
11:13
namespace
11:14
as
11:14
it
11:14
starts
11:15
to
11:15
expand.
11:16
But
11:16
I'm
11:16
fortunately
11:17
I
11:17
don't
11:17
have
11:18
a
11:18
specific
11:19
date
11:20
when
11:20
I
11:20
can
11:20
say
11:21
for
11:21
you.
11:22
This
11:22
is
11:22
when
11:23
we'll
11:23
turn
11:23
the
11:23
button
11:23
and
11:24
now
11:24
you
11:24
can
11:24
have
11:24
all
11:25
the
11:25
RSSV
11:26
2.0
11:26
tags.
11:27
Implemented
11:28
in,
11:28
just
11:29
to
11:29
clarify,
11:29
the
11:29
team
11:30
is
11:30
talking.
11:31
And
11:31
part
11:31
of
11:31
the
11:32
deal
11:32
is
11:32
that
11:32
we
11:33
may
11:33
not
11:33
necessarily
11:34
be
11:34
going
11:35
on
11:36
social
11:36
or
11:37
anything
11:37
like
11:37
that,
11:37
going,
11:38
Hey,
11:39
we
11:39
had
11:39
a
11:39
conversation
11:40
with
11:40
and
11:40
we're
11:41
working.
11:41
there
11:41
are
11:41
some
11:42
things
11:42
that
11:42
are
11:43
happening
11:43
behind
11:43
the
11:44
scenes
11:44
where
11:45
we
11:45
have
11:45
a
11:45
direct
11:45
communication
11:46
and
11:47
there
11:47
is
11:47
a
11:47
back
11:47
and
11:47
forth
11:48
and
11:48
there's
11:48
feedback.
11:49
And
11:49
there's
11:49
all
11:50
of
11:50
those
11:50
things
11:50
that
11:50
are
11:50
lovely
11:51
and
11:51
happening
11:52
back
11:52
there.
11:52
Plus
11:53
we're
11:53
a
11:53
little
11:53
bit
11:53
busy
11:54
over
11:54
there
11:54
right
11:55
now.
11:55
I
11:55
have
11:55
to
11:55
say,
11:56
in
11:56
terms
11:56
of
11:56
the
11:57
things
11:57
that
11:57
they're
11:57
working
11:58
on.
11:58  Sam
So
11:59
you
11:59
then
12:00
are
12:00
the
12:00
only
12:00
one
12:00
too
12:00
busy.
12:01
And
12:01
your
12:01
president,
12:02
Lori
12:02
Sims
12:02
has
12:02
been
12:03
on
12:03
the
12:03
acquisition
12:04
trail.
12:05
So
12:05
you've
12:05
recently
12:06
acquired
12:06
advertise
12:07
cast
12:08
for
12:08
30
12:08
million.
12:09
You
12:09
also
12:09
bought
12:10
in
12:10
ox
12:10
bus
12:11
in
12:11
February,
12:12
and
12:12
you've
12:12
been
12:12
raising
12:13
some
12:13
money
12:13
for
12:13
some
12:14
new
12:14
companies
12:14
that
12:15
you
12:15
might
12:15
be
12:15
buying.
12:16
What's
12:16
going
12:16
on
12:16
there.
12:17
Tell
12:17
me,
12:17
Oh
12:17
my
12:17
gosh.
12:18  Elsie
Oh,
12:19
my
12:19
gosh.
12:19
I
12:20
think
12:20
Lori
12:20
has
12:20
a
12:20
vision
12:21
and
12:21
then
12:21
we
12:21
feel
12:22
it's
12:22
one
12:23
of
12:23
those
12:23
things
12:23
where
12:24
Lipson
12:25
came
12:25
around
12:26
to
12:26
provide
12:26
as
12:27
many
12:27
opportunities
12:27
for
12:28
independent
12:29
podcasters
12:29
as
12:30
possible
12:30
for
12:31
the
12:31
ability,
12:32
the
12:32
freedom,
12:32
which
12:33
is
12:33
where
12:33
it
12:33
came.
12:33
That's
12:33
where
12:34
the
12:34
name
12:34
came
12:34
from.
12:34
It's
12:35
liberated
12:35
syndication,
12:36
where
12:37
the
12:37
guys
12:38
that
12:38
started
12:38
the
12:38
company
12:39
way
12:39
back
12:39
when
12:40
really
12:40
saw
12:41
a
12:41
need
12:41
to
12:42
be
12:42
able
12:42
to
12:42
provide
12:43
the
12:43
ability
12:44
for
12:44
the
12:44
everyday.
12:46
Person
12:46
who
12:47
had
12:47
something
12:48
powerful
12:48
to
12:48
say,
12:48
to
12:49
be
12:49
able
12:49
to
12:49
publish
12:50
their
12:50
stuff
12:50
and
12:50
not
12:50
be
12:51
like
12:51
the
12:51
whole
12:52
bandwidth
12:52
thing,
12:53
the
12:53
whole,
12:53
like,
12:53
where
12:54
does
12:54
the
12:54
file
12:54
go?
12:55
Type
12:55
of
12:55
thing
12:55
was
12:55
really
12:56
a
12:56
challenge
12:57
way
12:58
back
12:58
in
12:58
the
12:58
beginning.
12:59
So
12:59
they
12:59
stepped
13:00
into
13:00
that
13:01
and
13:01
were
13:01
able
13:01
to
13:01
provide
13:02
as
13:02
much
13:02
functionality
13:03
to
13:03
really
13:04
give
13:04
folks
13:05
what
13:05
they
13:05
needed
13:06
in
13:06
order
13:06
to
13:06
get
13:06
the
13:06
stuff
13:07
out.
13:07
And
13:08
as
13:08
podcasting
13:08
has
13:09
grown
13:09
so
13:09
much,
13:10
there
13:10
are
13:10
all
13:11
of
13:11
these
13:11
other
13:11
little
13:11
bits
13:12
and
13:12
pieces.
13:12
And
13:13
what's
13:13
so
13:13
amazing
13:13
about
13:14
the
13:14
podcasting
13:14
industry
13:15
is
13:15
that
13:15
there
13:15
are
13:15
so
13:15
many
13:16
different
13:16
companies
13:16
that
13:16
are
13:17
solving
13:17
that
13:17
one
13:17
problem,
13:18
This
13:18
is
13:19
the
13:19
problem
13:19
that
13:19
we
13:19
have
13:20
here
13:20
when
13:20
it
13:20
comes
13:20
to
13:21
recording
13:22
something
13:22
on
13:23
the,
13:23
in,