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episode 27: Space Casts v Apple Casts: Monetising podcasts through feeds and channels [transcript]


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 2021-06-03  28m
 
 
00:01  James
Welcome
00:01
to
00:01
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00:02
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00:02
sponsored
00:02
by
00:03
Buzzsprout
00:03
the
00:03
easiest
00:04
way
00:04
to
00:04
host,
00:04
promote
00:05
and
00:05
track
00:06
your
00:06
podcasts.
00:07
Thereupon
00:07
sprout.com.
00:08
And
00:08
your
00:08
first
00:09
90
00:09
days
00:09
are
00:10
free.
00:10
It's
00:10
the
00:10
3rd
00:11
of
00:11
June,
00:11
2021.
00:12
I'm
00:12
James
00:12
credit,
00:12
the
00:13
editor
00:13
of
00:13
pod
00:13
news.net
00:14
here
00:14
in
00:14
Australia.
00:15  Sam
And
00:15
I'm
00:16
Sam
00:16
SETI.
00:16
The
00:16
editor
00:17
of
00:17
Sam
00:17
Talks
00:17
Technology
00:18
here
00:18
in
00:18
the
00:18
UK.
00:19  James
Portland's
00:19
a
00:19
weekly
00:19
podcast
00:20
where
00:20
Sam
00:21
and
00:21
I
00:21
delve
00:21
deeper
00:22
into
00:22
the
00:22
week's
00:23
podcasting
00:23
news.
00:25  Sam
Now
00:25
there's
00:25
a
00:25
story
00:26
that
00:26
I
00:26
noticed
00:27
this
00:27
week,
00:27
James
00:28
is
00:28
it
00:28
was
00:28
all
00:28
about
00:29
space
00:29
costs.
00:30
Have
00:30
you
00:30
heard
00:30
of
00:30
space
00:31
costs?
00:32  James
in
00:32
a
00:32
vague
00:33
way.
00:33
Yes.
00:34
I've
00:34
heard
00:34
of
00:34
space
00:34
costs.
00:35  Sam
It
00:35
seems
00:36
that
00:36
this
00:36
week
00:36
there
00:37
is
00:37
a
00:37
thing
00:38
about
00:38
space
00:39
calf's
00:39
apple
00:40
channels
00:40
and
00:41
Spotify
00:41
lists.
00:42
Everyone
00:43
seems
00:43
to
00:43
be
00:43
aggregating
00:44
everything
00:44
together.
00:45
Now,
00:45
space
00:46
casts
00:46
is
00:46
a
00:47
new
00:47
collective
00:48
of
00:48
people
00:49
who
00:49
are
00:49
trying
00:49
to
00:49
solve
00:50
the
00:50
problem
00:50
of
00:50
live
00:51
audience
00:51
monetization.
00:52
It's
00:52
a
00:52
group,
00:53
primarily
00:53
of
00:53
tech
00:54
focused
00:54
hosts
00:54
who
00:55
are
00:55
launching
00:55
a
00:55
shared
00:55
podcast
00:56
feed
00:57
that
00:57
they'll
00:57
round
00:58
up
00:58
as
00:58
many
00:58
social
00:59
audio
00:59
chats
01:00
that
01:00
they've
01:00
started
01:01
plus
01:01
guests,
01:02
and
01:02
they
01:02
plan
01:03
to
01:03
run
01:03
ads
01:04
across
01:04
the
01:04
collected
01:05
feed.
01:06
What
01:06
are
01:06
your
01:06
thoughts,
01:06
James?
01:07  James
I
01:07
think
01:07
it's
01:07
interesting.
01:08
So
01:08
this
01:08
is
01:08
nine
01:09
sets
01:09
of
01:09
people
01:10
who've
01:10
been
01:10
doing
01:10
a
01:11
bunch
01:11
of
01:11
these
01:11
chats
01:12
on
01:12
things
01:12
like
01:12
clubhouse
01:13
and
01:13
on
01:14
Twitter
01:14
spaces.
01:15
Brian
01:15
McCulloch
01:16
from
01:16
tech
01:16
meme,
01:17
ride
01:17
home
01:17
and
01:17
Christmas
01:18
Siena
01:18
who
01:19
invented
01:20
the
01:20
hashtag.
01:20
I'm
01:21
sure
01:21
he's
01:21
a
01:21
famous
01:22
for
01:22
many
01:22
more
01:22
things,
01:23
but
01:23
he
01:23
invented
01:23
the
01:23
hashtag.
01:24
so
01:24
what
01:24
they've,
01:25
what
01:25
they're
01:25
doing
01:26
is
01:26
they
01:27
have,
01:27
I
01:27
think
01:28
appreciated
01:29
that
01:29
firstly,
01:30
there
01:30
isn't
01:31
really
01:31
very
01:32
good
01:32
ways
01:32
of
01:33
monetizing
01:33
clubhouse
01:34
and
01:34
Twitter
01:34
spaces
01:35
yet,
01:36
but
01:36
also.
01:37
that
01:37
on
01:37
demand
01:38
audio
01:39
works
01:39
for
01:39
quite
01:39
a
01:39
lot
01:40
of
01:40
people.
01:40
so
01:41
they've
01:41
launched
01:42
this
01:42
thing
01:42
called
01:42
space
01:43
casts,
01:43
which
01:43
is
01:44
a
01:44
podcast
01:45
feed
01:45
full
01:46
of
01:46
these
01:47
chats,
01:47
which
01:47
is
01:48
great.
01:49
And
01:49
they'll
01:50
sell
01:50
ads
01:51
on
01:51
the
01:51
podcast
01:52
and
01:52
everybody
01:52
will
01:53
share
01:53
in
01:54
that
01:54
money,
01:54
which
01:55
I
01:55
think
01:55
is
01:55
quite
01:56
a
01:56
clever
01:56
idea.
01:56
To
01:56
be
01:57
honest.
01:58  Sam
Now,
01:59
this
01:59
feels
02:00
very
02:00
much
02:00
like.
02:01
An
02:01
alternative
02:02
to
02:02
apple
02:03
channels
02:03
because
02:03
I've
02:03
set
02:04
up
02:04
a
02:04
channel
02:05
on
02:05
apple
02:06
connect
02:07
it's
02:07
not
02:07
live
02:08
yet.
02:08
Any
02:08
news
02:08
or
02:08
when
02:09
they
02:09
might
02:09
be
02:09
live
02:09
James.
02:10  James
they
02:11
announced
02:12
something
02:13
at
02:13
the
02:13
very,
02:14
end
02:14
of
02:14
last
02:14
week.
02:15
So
02:15
it
02:15
was
02:15
a
02:15
bank
02:15
holiday
02:16
weekend
02:16
for
02:16
you.
02:16
It
02:16
was
02:17
a
02:17
holiday
02:17
weekend
02:18
for
02:18
people
02:18
in
02:18
the
02:19
U
02:19
S.
02:19
here
02:19
in
02:19
Australia,
02:20
we
02:20
had
02:20
to
02:20
work,
02:21
but
02:22
Friday
02:22
night,
02:22
five
02:23
o'clock
02:23
in
02:24
the
02:24
evening
02:24
in
02:25
New
02:25
York,
02:26
apple
02:26
sent
02:26
out
02:27
an
02:27
email
02:27
to
02:27
podcasters
02:28
and
02:28
said,
02:28
oh
02:28
this
02:29
whole
02:29
paid
02:29
for
02:30
apple
02:30
podcast
02:31
subscriptions
02:32
thing
02:32
and
02:32
all
02:33
of
02:33
these
02:33
channels
02:33
and
02:34
things
02:34
that
02:34
we
02:34
promised
02:35
in
02:35
may.
02:35
That's
02:35
going
02:36
to
02:36
be
02:36
in
02:36
June
02:36
now.
02:37
so
02:38
my
02:38
guess
02:38
is
02:40
With
02:40
a
02:40
few
02:40
chats
02:40
that
02:41
I've
02:41
had
02:41
that
02:42
probably
02:42
the
02:43
middle
02:43
of
02:43
June
02:44
don't
02:44
expect
02:44
it
02:44
this
02:45
week,
02:45
but
02:45
probably
02:46
the
02:46
middle
02:46
of
02:46
June
02:46
is
02:46
my
02:47
guess.
02:47  Sam
Okay.
02:47
And
02:48
that
02:48
will
02:48
come
02:48
with
02:48
subscriptions,
02:49
won't
02:49
it?
02:50  James
it
02:50
will
02:50
come
02:50
with
02:50
subscriptions
02:52
and
02:52
to
02:52
give
02:52
apple
02:53
there.
02:53
Do
02:53
which
02:54
I
02:54
thought
02:54
I
02:54
might
02:54
as
02:54
well.
02:54
every
02:55
so
02:55
often
02:55
I
02:55
went
02:55
to
02:56
the
02:56
apple
02:57
podcasts
02:58
connect
02:58
thing
02:59
and
02:59
signed
03:00
up
03:00
to
03:01
have
03:01
a
03:01
pod
03:02
news
03:02
channel.
03:03
Got
03:03
no
03:03
idea
03:03
what
03:04
else
03:04
I'm
03:04
going
03:04
to
03:04
put
03:04
in
03:04
there
03:05
apart
03:05
from
03:05
pod
03:05
news
03:05
itself.
03:06
But
03:06
nevertheless,
03:07
it's
03:07
there.
03:08
And
03:08
it
03:09
worked
03:09
and
03:09
everything
03:10
all
03:10
worked
03:11
very
03:11
nicely
03:11
and
03:12
apple
03:12
were
03:12
very
03:12
good
03:12
at
03:12
taking
03:13
my
03:13
money.
03:13
So
03:13
that
03:13
was
03:14
good.
03:14
all
03:14
of
03:14
that
03:14
bit
03:15
is
03:15
working
03:15
quite
03:16
well.
03:16
It'll
03:16
be
03:17
interesting
03:17
to
03:17
see
03:18
what
03:18
happens
03:18
when
03:18
it's
03:19
actually
03:19
turned
03:19
on.
03:20  Sam
I'm
03:20
putting
03:20
26
03:21
podcasts
03:22
into
03:22
my
03:22
channel
03:23
and
03:24
it'll
03:24
be
03:25
a
03:25
way
03:25
that
03:25
maybe
03:26
we'll
03:26
might
03:26
monetize
03:27
it
03:27
later
03:27
on.
03:27
It
03:27
won't
03:28
be
03:28
a
03:28
monetization
03:29
at
03:29
the
03:29
beginning,
03:30
but
03:30
this
03:30
space
03:31
call
03:31
seems
03:31
to
03:31
be
03:32
a
03:32
similar
03:33
idea
03:33
to
03:33
that.
03:34
is
03:34
that
03:34
just
03:34
because
03:35
they
03:35
don't
03:35
want
03:35
to
03:35
use
03:35
apple
03:36
whereas
03:36
this
03:36
clubhouse
03:37
plus
03:37
Twitter,
03:37
because
03:38
Twitter
03:38
says
03:38
it's
03:38
working
03:39
on
03:39
a
03:40
native
03:40
recording
03:40
function,
03:42
haven't
03:42
launched
03:42
it
03:43
yet.
03:43
But
03:43
it
03:43
says
03:44
it's
03:44
going
03:44
to
03:44
be
03:44
doing
03:44
it.
03:45
And
03:45
clubhouses
03:46
it's
03:46
launching
03:46
an
03:46
in-app
03:47
tipping
03:48
service,
03:48
which
03:49
is
03:49
helpful,
03:50
but
03:50
doesn't
03:50
monetize
03:51
the
03:51
actual
03:51
chats.
03:52
So
03:52
are
03:53
they
03:53
just
03:53
trying
03:53
to
03:53
find
03:53
a
03:53
way
03:54
of
03:54
getting
03:55
recorded
03:56
clubhouse
03:56
and
03:57
Twitter
03:57
spaces?
03:58
Because
03:58
if
03:58
you
03:59
don't
03:59
record
03:59
them,
03:59
it
03:59
seems
04:00
like
04:00
they're
04:00
just
04:00
thrown
04:01
away
04:01
and
04:01
wasted.
04:02
but
04:02
isn't
04:02
apple
04:03
or
04:03
Spotify
04:03
better
04:03
way.
04:04  James
I
04:04
think
04:05
that's
04:05
exactly
04:05
what
04:05
they're
04:06
doing
04:06
is
04:06
that
04:06
they
04:06
are
04:07
recording
04:08
the
04:08
Twitter
04:08
spaces
04:09
and
04:09
the
04:09
clubhouse
04:09
chats,
04:10
and
04:11
they're
04:11
monetizing
04:12
them
04:12
by
04:12
sticking
04:13
adverts
04:13
on
04:13
them
04:14
and
04:14
doing
04:14
it
04:15
that
04:15
way.
04:15
So
04:15
making
04:16
them
04:16
freely
04:16
available,
04:17
but
04:17
advertising
04:18
funded.
04:19
so
04:19
that
04:19
what
04:20
they're
04:20
not
04:20
doing
04:20
is
04:20
they're
04:20
not
04:21
charging
04:21
for
04:22
access
04:23
to
04:23
them.
04:23
And
04:23
instead
04:24
they're
04:24
using.
04:25
The
04:25
thing
04:25
that
04:26
works
04:26
for
04:26
most
04:27
people,
04:27
which
04:27
is
04:27
ad
04:28
funded
04:28
media.
04:29
it's
04:29
worked
04:30
for
04:30
TV
04:31
and
04:31
radio
04:31
channels
04:32
for
04:32
a
04:32
long
04:32
time
04:32
and
04:32
will
04:33
continue
04:33
to.
04:34
So
04:34
I
04:34
think
04:34
it's
04:35
a
04:35
bright
04:35
idea
04:36
from
04:36
them
04:37
to
04:37
actually
04:37
realize
04:38
that
04:39
there
04:39
are
04:39
lots
04:40
of
04:40
people
04:41
who
04:41
would
04:42
listen
04:42
to
04:42
some
04:43
of
04:43
those
04:43
chats
04:43
that
04:44
can't
04:44
because
04:45
of
04:45
time
04:45
zones
04:45
or
04:45
because
04:46
they're
04:46
busy
04:47
working
04:47
or
04:47
doing
04:48
something
04:48
else.
04:48
So
04:48
I
04:48
think
04:49
it's
04:49
quite
04:49
a
04:49
bright
04:49
idea.
04:50  Sam
they
04:50
have
04:50
put
04:51
it
04:51
out
04:51
as
04:51
an
04:51
apple
04:52
and
04:52
Spotify
04:52
podcasts
04:53
eventually.
04:53
So
04:54
they've
04:54
aggregate
04:54
it
04:54
all
04:55
as
04:55
one
04:55
feed.
04:56
I'll
04:56
put
04:56
it
04:56
out
04:56
as
04:56
one
04:57
podcast,
04:58
which
04:59
again,
04:59
I
04:59
suppose
05:00
it
05:00
doesn't
05:00
really
05:00
work
05:01
in
05:01
the
05:01
new
05:01
apple
05:02
world
05:02
where
05:02
they
05:02
could
05:02
have
05:03
just
05:03
put
05:03
them
05:03
out
05:03
as
05:03
separate
05:04
podcasts
05:05
and
05:05
then
05:05
created
05:06
one
05:06
channel.
05:06
I
05:06  James
guess
05:07
we'll
05:07
have
05:07
to
05:07
see,
05:07
could
05:08
have
05:08
done.
05:08
But
05:08
then
05:08
of
05:08
course,
05:09
apple
05:09
is
05:09
only
05:10
40%
05:10
of
05:10
all
05:10
podcasts
05:11
downloads.
05:11
nothing
05:12
else
05:12
supports
05:13
channels.
05:13
So
05:13
therefore
05:14
it's
05:15
neither
05:15
here
05:15
nor
05:15
there
05:15
really.
05:16
they
05:16
could
05:16
have
05:17
launched,
05:17
10
05:18
different
05:18
podcasts.
05:19
podcast
05:20
feeds,
05:21
but
05:21
you
05:21
can't
05:21
group
05:22
them
05:22
in
05:22
any
05:22
other
05:24
service
05:24
other
05:25
than
05:25
in
05:26
apple
05:26
at
05:27
the
05:27
moment.
05:27
Funnily
05:28
enough,
05:28
that's
05:28
something
05:28
that
05:29
podcasting
05:29
2.0
05:30
is
05:30
working
05:30
on
05:31
the
05:31
idea
05:31
of
05:31
actually
05:32
being
05:32
able
05:32
to
05:32
group
05:33
podcasts
05:34
together
05:34
in
05:34
that
05:34
way.
05:35
so
05:35
I
05:35
think
05:35
it's
05:36
probably
05:36
a
05:36
realization
05:37
that
05:37
apple
05:38
isn't
05:38
the
05:38
center
05:39
of
05:39
the
05:39
universe,
05:39
which
05:40
is
05:40
a
05:40
realization
05:40
that
05:41
quite
05:41
a
05:41
few
05:41
people
05:42
are
05:42
yet
05:43
to
05:43
have,
05:43
I
05:43
think.
05:44  Sam
Spotify
05:45
have
05:45
announced
05:45
a
05:45
couple
05:46
of
05:46
new
05:46
things
05:47
today
05:47
as
05:47
well.
05:47
They've
05:48
announced
05:48
only
05:49
you,
05:49
which
05:50
gives
05:50
users
05:50
personalized
05:51
pay
05:51
lists
05:52
insights
05:52
based
05:53
on
05:53
their
05:53
habits.
05:54
And
05:54
this
05:54
thing
05:55
called
05:55
blend,
05:55
which
05:56
lets
05:56
two
05:56
friends
05:56
merge,
05:57
tastes
05:58
in
05:58
a
05:58
playlist.
05:59
There
05:59
you
05:59
go.
06:00
Just
06:00
want
06:00
to
06:00
let
06:00
you
06:00  James
know.
06:02
Thanks.
06:02
Thanks
06:03
for
06:03
that.
06:03
Yes,
06:03
blend.
06:04
I
06:04
thought
06:04
that
06:04
they
06:04
were
06:05
doing
06:05
anyway
06:05
in
06:05
terms
06:06
of,
06:06
if
06:06
you
06:06
are
06:06
in
06:07
a
06:07
Spotify
06:08
premium
06:08
account
06:09
with
06:09
your
06:10
other
06:10
half,
06:11
for
06:11
example,
06:12
then
06:12
you
06:12
can
06:13
have
06:14
a
06:14
listen
06:14
to.
06:15
both
06:15
of
06:15
your
06:15
favorite
06:16
music,
06:16
if
06:16
you
06:16
like.
06:17
so
06:17
I
06:17
thought
06:17
that
06:17
they
06:17
were
06:18
doing
06:18
that
06:18
already,
06:19
but
06:19
clearly,
06:19
this
06:20
new
06:20
personalized
06:21
feature
06:21
called
06:21
blend
06:22
allows
06:22
people
06:22
that
06:23
aren't
06:23
sharing
06:23
the
06:23
same
06:24
plan.
06:24
So
06:25
it's
06:25
just
06:25
two
06:26
friends
06:27
can
06:27
merge
06:27
their
06:27
musical
06:28
tastes,
06:28
so
06:29
I
06:29
can
06:29
listen
06:29
to,
06:30
all
06:30
of
06:30
the
06:30
wonderful,
06:31
old
06:31
fashioned
06:31
music
06:31
that
06:32
I
06:32
listened
06:32
to.
06:32
And
06:32
you
06:32
can
06:33
listen
06:33
to,
06:33
Billie
06:33
Eilish
06:34
or
06:34
whoever
06:34
it
06:34
is
06:35
that
06:35
you're
06:35
listening
06:35
to
06:36
Sam.
06:37
I
06:37
think
06:37
that
06:37
works.
06:39  Sam
I
06:39
think
06:39
it's
06:39
the
06:39
bit
06:39
that
06:39
got
06:40
me.
06:40
It
06:40
was
06:40
letting
06:40
two
06:41
friends
06:41
most
06:41
tastes.
06:41
I
06:42
wonder
06:42
whether
06:42
we
06:42
should
06:42
create
06:43
a
06:43
playlist
06:43
James
06:43
and
06:43
see
06:44
what
06:44
comes
06:44
of
06:44
it.
06:45  James
Okay.
06:45
A
06:45
terrifying
06:46
idea.
06:46
And
06:46
anyway,
06:47
I
06:47
don't
06:47
use
06:47
Spotify
06:48
for
06:48
music
06:49
anymore.
06:49
So
06:49
you
06:49
would
06:49
get
06:50
the
06:50
music
06:50
that
06:50
I
06:50
was
06:50
into
06:51
two
06:51
years
06:51
ago,
06:52
which
06:52
is
06:53
probably
06:53
not
06:54
so
06:54
good.
06:55
What
06:55
do
06:55
you
06:55
use?
06:56
I
06:56
use
06:57
YouTube
06:57
music.
06:58  Sam
Oh,
06:58
okay.
06:59
Now
07:00
you
07:00
did
07:00
write
07:01
about
07:01
some
07:01
alternatives
07:02
there.
07:02
If
07:02
you
07:03
don't
07:03
want
07:03
to
07:03
use
07:03
apple
07:04
and
07:04
you
07:04
don't
07:05
want
07:05
to
07:05
use
07:05
Spotify,
07:06
you
07:06
talked
07:07
about
07:07
a
07:07
service
07:07
called
07:07
mumbler.
07:09
Tell
07:09
me
07:09
more.
07:10  James
So
07:10
mumbler
07:11
is
07:11
another
07:11
one
07:12
of
07:12
these
07:12
podcast
07:13
subscription
07:14
services.
07:15
it
07:15
allows
07:15
any
07:15
podcasts
07:16
to
07:16
create
07:17
their
07:17
own
07:17
paid
07:17
podcast
07:18
in
07:18
just
07:18
three
07:18
clicks.
07:19
It
07:19
says
07:19
the
07:20
differences
07:21
that
07:21
firstly,
07:22
the
07:22
commission
07:23
feeds
07:23
are
07:23
8%
07:24
plus
07:25
payment
07:25
costs
07:25
are
07:26
not
07:26
Apple's
07:26
30%,
07:28
which
07:28
is
07:28
a
07:28
handy
07:29
thing.
07:29
And
07:30
the
07:30
other
07:30
main
07:31
difference
07:31
is
07:32
that
07:32
you
07:32
get
07:32
to
07:32
see
07:33
your
07:33
subscriber
07:34
details.
07:35
and
07:35
to
07:35
be
07:35
fair,
07:36
the
07:36
other
07:36
difference
07:36
is
07:37
that
07:37
it's
07:37
more
07:37
fiddly
07:38
than
07:38
apple
07:38
or
07:39
indeed
07:39
more
07:40
fiddly
07:40
than
07:40
Spotify.
07:42
So
07:42
you've
07:43
got
07:43
that
07:43
sort
07:44
of
07:44
side
07:44
of
07:44
it
07:44
as
07:44
well,
07:44
but
07:45
mumbler
07:45
is
07:45
interesting.
07:46
It's
07:46
a
07:46
Spanish
07:47
language.
07:48
Service,
07:49
which
07:49
has
07:50
now
07:50
got
07:50
a
07:51
proper
07:51
English
07:51
front
07:52
end
07:52
to
07:52
it.
07:53
And
07:53
it
07:53
looks
07:53
pretty
07:53
cool.
07:54
There
07:54
is
07:55
also
07:55
plenty
07:56
of
07:56
other
07:56
companies
07:57
like
07:57
super
07:58
cast
07:58
member
07:59
for
08:00
a
08:00
sub
08:00
stack
08:01
allows
08:01
you
08:01
to
08:01
do
08:02
this
08:02
sort
08:02
of
08:02
thing.
08:03
Patrion
08:03
allows
08:03
you
08:04
to
08:04
do
08:04
this
08:04
sort
08:04
of
08:04
thing.
08:05
So
08:05
there's
08:05
a
08:05
bunch
08:05
of
08:06
different
08:06
tools
08:07
which
08:07
allow
08:08
you
08:08
to
08:08
sell
08:09
a
08:09
subscription.
08:10
it's
08:10
been
08:11
interesting,
08:11
The
08:11
podcasts
08:12
that
08:12
I've
08:12
been
08:12
on
08:12
recently,
08:13
where
08:13
I've
08:13
been
08:14
a
08:14
guest,
08:14
have
08:14
all
08:14
been
08:15
talking
08:15
about
08:16
podcasts
08:16
subscriptions,
08:17
and
08:17
are
08:17
they
08:17
going
08:18
to
08:18
be
08:18
the
08:18
future?
08:18
And
08:19
my
08:19
view
08:19
on
08:20
it
08:20
is,
08:20
just
08:20
take
08:21
a
08:21
look
08:21
at
08:21
television.
08:23
That.
08:23
Yes,
08:24
you
08:24
do
08:24
have
08:25
some
08:26
people
08:26
who
08:26
are
08:26
paying
08:27
for,
08:28
Hulu
08:28
or
08:28
paying
08:29
for
08:29
HBO
08:31
on
08:31
cable
08:32
or
08:32
paying
08:32
for
08:33
sky
08:33
TV
08:34
in
08:34
the
08:34
UK
08:34
or
08:34
Foxtel
08:35
in.
08:36
Australia.
08:37
Yes,
08:37
absolutely.
08:38
You've
08:38
got
08:38
some
08:39
of
08:39
that,
08:39
but
08:39
the
08:39
predominant
08:40
amount
08:41
of
08:41
consumption
08:42
of
08:43
TV
08:44
is
08:45
free
08:45
to
08:45
air.
08:45
it's
08:46
the
08:46
free
08:46
stuff
08:46
that
08:47
you
08:47
get
08:47
through
08:47
your
08:48
antenna
08:49
or
08:49
through
08:49
basic
08:50
cable.
08:50
So
08:51
that's
08:51
probably.
08:53
What
08:53
we're
08:53
going
08:53
to
08:53
get
08:54
in
08:54
terms
08:54
of
08:54
podcasting,
08:55
the
08:55
vast
08:55
majority
08:56
is
08:56
going
08:56
to
08:57
be
08:57
freely
08:57
consumed
08:58
podcasts,
08:59
and
08:59
yes,
08:59
there
09:00
may
09:00
be
09:00
some
09:01
paid
09:01
for
09:01
podcasts
09:02
that
09:02
are
09:02
additional,
09:03
but
09:03
those
09:04
are
09:04
going
09:04
to
09:04
be
09:05
relatively
09:06
few
09:06
and
09:06
far
09:06
between
09:07
I
09:07
would
09:07
have
09:07
thought.
09:09  Sam
Moving
09:10
on,
09:10
friend
09:11
of
09:11
the
09:11
show,
09:11
Bradley
09:11
Davis
09:12
is
09:12
CEO
09:12
of
09:12
pod
09:13
chaser,
09:13
and
09:13
also
09:14
a
09:14
new
09:14
father,
09:14
by
09:15
the
09:15
way,
09:15
he's
09:16
just
09:16
launched
09:17
a
09:17
new
09:17
API
09:18
for
09:18
pod
09:18
chaser.
09:19
What
09:19
can
09:19
you
09:19
do
09:19
with
09:19
his
09:20
API,
09:20
James?
09:21
What
09:21
have
09:21
you
09:21
done?
09:21  James
you
09:21
can
09:22
do
09:22
quite
09:23
a
09:23
few
09:23
things
09:23
you
09:23
can,
09:24
of
09:24
course
09:24
pull
09:24
in
09:25
things
09:25
like
09:26
reviews
09:26
and
09:27
ratings
09:29
and
09:29
cast
09:29
members
09:30
and
09:30
that
09:30
sort
09:31
of
09:31
thing.
09:31
If
09:31
you
09:32
are
09:32
running
09:32
a
09:33
podcast
09:33
website,
09:34
for
09:34
example,
09:35
or
09:35
you
09:35
are
09:36
running,
09:36
a
09:36
podcast
09:37
app,
09:38
what
09:38
you
09:38
can
09:39
also
09:39
do
09:39
is
09:39
you
09:40
can
09:40
log
09:41
in
09:41
through
09:41
pod
09:42
chaser
09:42
and
09:43
be
09:43
able
09:43
to
09:44
add
09:44
ratings
09:45
and
09:45
stuff
09:46
from
09:46
the
09:46
comfort
09:46
of
09:46
your
09:47
comfy
09:47
app.
09:48
And
09:48
I
09:48
believe
09:49
that
09:49
there
09:49
is
09:49
an
09:49
app
09:49
which
09:50
has
09:50
already
09:50
launched
09:51
with
09:52
a
09:52
pod
09:52
chases
09:53
API
09:54
and
09:54
I'm
09:54
going
09:55
to
09:55
tell
09:55
you
09:55
it's
09:55
podcast
09:56
guru.
09:57
for
09:57
example,
09:57
you
09:58
can
09:58
log
09:58
into
09:59
pod
09:59
chaser
09:59
through
10:00
that
10:00
app
10:00
and
10:01
rate
10:01
podcasts
10:02
and
10:02
episodes
10:02
directly.
10:03
And
10:03
so
10:04
all
10:04
of
10:04
this
10:04
is
10:04
essentially
10:05
what
10:05
I've.
10:05
B
10:06
prodding
10:06
pod
10:07
chaser
10:07
to
10:07
do
10:07
for
10:08
some
10:08
time,
10:09
which
10:09
is
10:09
to
10:09
make
10:09
sure
10:10
that
10:10
they
10:10
are
10:10
the
10:10
central
10:11
place
10:12
for
10:12
ratings
10:13
and
10:14
reviews
10:15
and
10:15
sinking
10:16
your
10:17
listen
10:17
history
10:18
and
10:18
all
10:18
of
10:18
that
10:18
kind
10:19
of
10:19
stuff
10:20
so
10:20
that
10:20
it
10:20
isn't
10:20
just
10:21
in
10:21
each
10:21
individual
10:22
app.
10:22
So
10:23
it's
10:23
great
10:23
to
10:24
see
10:24
that
10:24
working.
10:26  Sam
Brilliant.
10:26
Well
10:26
done.
10:26
Bradley
10:27
must
10:27
have
10:28
been
10:28
busy
10:28
father
10:29
and
10:30
putting
10:30
out
10:30
an
10:30
API.
10:31  James
No
10:32
sleep
10:32
whatsoever.
10:33
That's
10:34
what's
10:34
going
10:34
on
10:34
there?
10:35  Sam
another
10:35
friend
10:35
of
10:35
the
10:36
show,
10:36
a
10:36
good
10:37
friend.
10:37
Who's
10:37
been
10:37
a
10:37
cohost
10:38
with
10:38
me
10:38
as
10:38
well.
10:39
Matt
10:39
Deegan.
10:39
He's
10:40
got
10:40
the
10:40
British
10:40
podcast
10:41
awards
10:41
coming
10:42
out,
10:42
heats
10:43
powered
10:43
by
10:44
strangely
10:44
Amazon
10:45
music,
10:45
which
10:45
I
10:45
keep
10:46
forgetting
10:46
about
10:46
Amazon.
10:47
Now.
10:47
tell
10:48
me
10:48
more.
10:48
About
10:49
the
10:49
British
10:49
podcast
10:50
awards.
10:50  James
So
10:50
they
10:51
announced
10:51
their
10:52
nominees
10:53
last
10:53
week
10:54
and
10:55
it's
10:55
a
10:55
very
10:56
big
10:57
awards.
10:58
It's
10:58
a
10:58
properly
10:59
done
10:59
awards.
11:00
What
11:01
I
11:01
like
11:01
about
11:01
it
11:02
is
11:02
that
11:02
is
11:02
got
11:03
a.
11:03
Proper
11:03
judging
11:04
panel
11:05
who
11:05
go
11:06
away
11:06
and
11:06
listen
11:07
to
11:07
the
11:07
podcasts
11:08
first,
11:08
before
11:09
judging
11:09
on
11:09
them,
11:09
which
11:10
is
11:10
always
11:10
a
11:10
good
11:10
thing.
11:11
Not
11:12
very
11:12
many
11:12
podcast
11:13
awards
11:13
actually
11:13
do
11:14
that.
11:14
You'd
11:14
be
11:14
amazed
11:15
to
11:15
find
11:15
out.
11:16
So
11:16
that's
11:16
one
11:17
sort
11:17
of
11:17
thing,
11:17
but
11:18
also
11:18
they
11:19
have
11:19
a
11:20
people's
11:20
choice
11:20
award.
11:21
Which
11:22
is
11:22
open
11:23
which
11:23
has
11:23
independent
11:24
adjudicators
11:24
and
11:24
all
11:25
that
11:25
kind
11:25
of
11:25
stuff
11:26
on
11:26
it
11:26
too.
11:27
but
11:27
it's
11:27
a
11:28
really
11:28
nicely
11:29
run
11:29
award.
11:30
And
11:30
one
11:30
of
11:30
the
11:30
things
11:30
that
11:30
I
11:31
like
11:31
about
11:32
it
11:32
is
11:32
that
11:33
a
11:33
couple
11:33
of
11:33
years
11:33
ago,
11:33
prior
11:34
to
11:34
to
11:34
the
11:34
pandemic,
11:35
of
11:35
course,
11:36
one
11:36
of
11:36
the
11:36
things
11:37
that
11:37
they
11:37
did
11:37
is
11:37
they
11:38
took
11:38
all
11:39
of
11:39
the
11:40
nominees
11:41
of
11:41
all
11:41
of
11:41
the
11:42
awards
11:42
that
11:42
they
11:42
had.
11:44
And
11:44
they
11:45
got
11:45
them
11:45
into
11:46
the
11:46
award
11:46
venue
11:47
a
11:47
little
11:47
bit
11:47
earlier
11:48
and
11:48
did
11:48
a
11:48
proper
11:49
photo
11:49
shoot
11:50
with
11:50
every
11:51
single
11:51
one
11:51
of
11:51
them
11:51
so
11:52
that
11:52
they
11:52
all
11:52
had
11:53
really
11:54
nice
11:54
professionally
11:55
done
11:55
photographs,
11:56
which
11:56
is
11:56
a
11:57
lovely
11:57
thing.
11:57
And
11:58
more
11:58
people
11:59
really
11:59
ought
11:59
to
11:59
be
11:59
doing
12:00
that
12:00
kind
12:00
of
12:00
thing,
12:01
I
12:01
think,
12:01
in
12:01
the
12:01
future.
12:02
so
12:02
it's
12:02
a
12:02
really
12:02
nicely
12:03
run
12:03
awards
12:04
and
12:05
you
12:05
can
12:05
already
12:06
vote
12:06
now
12:07
for.
12:08
The
12:08
people's
12:08
choice
12:08
award,
12:09
which
12:09
is
12:09
basically
12:10
any
12:10
award.
12:10
If
12:11
you
12:11
want
12:11
to
12:11
vote
12:11
for
12:12
this
12:13
podcast,
12:13
then
12:13
vote
12:14
for
12:14
this
12:14
podcast.
12:15
Just
12:15
do
12:16
a
12:16
search
12:16
for
12:16
pod
12:16
land.
12:17
and
12:18
Matt
12:18
is
12:18
a
12:18
very
12:19
busy
12:19
man
12:19
because
12:20
not
12:20
only
12:20
is
12:20
he
12:20
working
12:21
on
12:21
the
12:21
British
12:22
podcast
12:23
awards
12:24
this
12:24
week,
12:24
he
12:24
is
12:25
also
12:25
behind
12:26
the
12:26
podcast
12:27
day
12:28
24,
12:28
which
12:29
is
12:29
the
12:29
planet's
12:29
podcasting
12:30
conference,
12:31
which
12:31
is
12:31
next
12:31
Monday.
12:32
I
12:33
am
12:33
hosting
12:34
the
12:34
Sydney
12:35
leg.
12:35
So
12:35
I
12:36
will
12:36
be
12:36
hosting
12:36
for
12:37
eight
12:37
hours.
12:37
I'm
12:38
also
12:38
doing
12:38
all
12:38
of
12:38
the
12:38
tech
12:39
for
12:39
the
12:40
slides
12:40
and
12:40
everything
12:41
else
12:41
for
12:41
that.
12:41
imagine
12:42
my
12:42
life
12:42
at
12:43
the
12:43
moment.
12:44
And
12:44
so
12:45
that'll
12:45
be
12:45
fun,
12:45
but
12:46
anyway
12:46
it's
12:46
a
12:47
whole
12:47
24
12:48
hours.
12:48
You
12:48
can
12:48
watch
12:49
the
12:49
whole
12:49
thing
12:49
on
12:49
demand
12:50
as
12:50
well.
12:50
If
12:50
you
12:50
don't
12:50
want
12:50
to
12:50
stay
12:51
up
12:51
for
12:51
the
12:51
24
12:52
hours,
12:52
you
12:53
can
12:53
go
12:53
to
12:53
podcast
12:54
day
12:54
20
12:54
four.com
12:56
to
12:56
buy
12:57
your
12:57
ticket.
12:57
It's
12:57
not
12:58
too
12:58
late.
12:58
And
12:58
if
12:59
you
12:59
want
12:59
to,
12:59
you
12:59
can
12:59
use
13:00
code
13:00
P
13:01
news
13:01
day
13:02
21,
13:03
and
13:04
that
13:04
will
13:04
save
13:05
you
13:05
some
13:05
money
13:05
P
13:06
news
13:06
as
13:06
important
13:07
news,
13:07
but
13:07
P
13:07
news
13:08
day
13:08
21.
13:09  Sam
I'll
13:09
be
13:10
going
13:10
to
13:10
the
13:10
British
13:10
podcast
13:11
awards
13:11
this
13:11
year.
13:11
It's
13:12
in
13:12
a
13:12
field.
13:13  James
Yes.
13:13
because
13:14
it'll
13:14
be,
13:14
COVID
13:14
safe,
13:15
won't
13:15
it?
13:15
which
13:16
is
13:16
a
13:16
lovely
13:16
thing.
13:16
it's
13:17
just
13:17
such
13:17
a
13:17
well-organized
13:18
awards
13:19
that
13:19
I
13:19
think
13:19
more
13:20
people
13:20
could
13:21
learn
13:21
from
13:21
and
13:21
watch.
13:22  Sam
I
13:22
love
13:22
the
13:23
winner
13:23
of
13:23
last
13:23
year's
13:23
award.
13:24
I
13:24
don't
13:24
know
13:24
if
13:24
you
13:24
ever
13:25
heard
13:25
their
13:25
podcast
13:26
brown
13:26
girls
13:26
do
13:27
it
13:27
is
13:27
actually
13:28
hilariously
13:29
laugh
13:29
out.
13:29
Funny.
13:30
I
13:30
have
13:30
to
13:30
say
13:31
I
13:31
had
13:31
never
13:31
heard
13:32
of
13:32
that
13:32
podcast
13:32
till
13:32
they
13:32
won
13:33
the
13:33
award.
13:34
So
13:34
I
13:34
thought
13:34
I'd
13:34
just
13:34
download
13:35
it
13:35
last
13:35
year.
13:36
And
13:36
I
13:36
have
13:36
to
13:36
say
13:37
the
13:37
stories
13:38
those
13:38
girls
13:38
told.
13:39
Made
13:39  
me
13:39  James
blush.
13:40
Yes,
13:40
it's
13:41
very
13:41
rude.
13:41
I
13:41
was
13:42
going
13:42
to
13:42
put
13:42
the
13:44
trailer
13:44
for
13:44
their
13:44
podcast
13:45
into
13:46
a
13:47
pod
13:47
news
13:47
of
13:48
on
13:48
the
13:48
day
13:48
that
13:48
they
13:48
won
13:49
and
13:49
then
13:49
I
13:49
had
13:50
listened
13:50
to
13:50
it
13:50
and
13:50
then
13:50
I
13:50
thought,
13:51
no,
13:51
I
13:51
can't
13:51
do
13:51
that.
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