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episode 53: It's a Buzzcast Takeover! [transcript]


Get ready for a Buzzcast takeover!

In this episode, Krystal + Jordan + Kerry Ann hijack Buzzcast from the guys to give their take on podcasting.

Topics Discussed:

  • Great ideas to help you podcast during the summer months (so you can take a vacation).
  • The encouraging power of podcast communities.
  • The latest curveballs in the Apple Podcasts updates saga. 

Links from today's episode

  • Link to see the Buzzcast video version on YouTube
  • The top 3 podcasting platforms from Tom Webster's presentation (Airship One Conference)
  • The Verge: Apple delays Podcasts subscriptions to June

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 2021-06-04  44m
 
 
00:00  Krystal
Hey Alban. How's it
00:00
going? Pretty good, Travis. Hey,
00:03
Kevin, what do you want to do
00:03
today? Welcome to the latest
00:07
episode of Buzzcast
00:12
Hello friends. Oh my gosh, yeah,
00:12
we're we're just being a bunch
00:16
of goofballs over here. But we
00:16
have officially hijacked
00:20
Buzzcast I am crystal prophet.
00:20
And with me I have my good
00:24
friends Jordan and Carrie in so
00:24
welcome to the show today,
00:28
ladies. Hi. Hi. We've officially
00:28
like I mean, it's just like a
00:33
whole Liam Neeson movie over
00:33
here we've officially hijacked
00:37
Buzzcast from the Buzzsprout.
00:37
Guys, and I'm really excited
00:41
because we're gonna have so much
00:41
fun today. So karianna Jordan,
00:46
actually curien I want to start
00:46
with you. Tell us how are we
00:50
connected to Buzzsprout?
00:52  Kerry-Ann
Well, let's
00:52
officially call this taken the
00:55
Buzzcast edition. Exactly. We
00:55
all host the Buzzsprout. We are
01:01
Buzzsprout creators. And we're
01:01
women in podcast. So that's all
01:07
those connection points right
01:07
there. Yeah. Any other
01:10
connections? Am I missing?
01:10
Jordan? Did I miss something?
01:14  Jordan
I don't know. I mean,
01:14
yeah, we just we're always
01:18
Buzzsprout. And we're all
01:18
Buzzsprout creators, and we've
01:21
become friends through this
01:21
program. And it's just been so
01:25
awesome. So yeah,
01:28  Krystal
yeah. And we are super
01:28
excited to be here with you
01:31
today hosting Buzzcast. The guys
01:31
were on vacation. And if you
01:36
missed it, if you did not see we
01:36
have a video version of the
01:39
podcast, you will absolutely
01:39
have to go check out because we
01:42
have little cutouts don't tell
01:42
them. They don't know about
01:45
this. But we have one of Travis
01:45
and Kevin and Alvin. And it is
01:51
the most genius. Yes, ladies,
01:51
for everybody just watching on
01:53
video. Y'all have to go check
01:53
this out. The guys don't know
01:56
about it. And it's going to be
01:56
very fun surprise. But we're
02:00
gonna get into it today. So we
02:00
are officially covering the
02:04
latest and greatest in
02:04
podcasting news. But I wanted to
02:08
start with the fact that we are
02:08
all in summer, it's June here.
02:14
And we are getting into the
02:14
summer months of podcasting. And
02:18
we're all going to talk a little
02:18
bit about our podcast as we get
02:21
into this are different
02:21
experiences. But I wanted to
02:25
talk about like our kids are out
02:25
of school, maybe people have
02:28
different rhythms like maybe
02:28
some people are going back to
02:30
work, maybe some people are
02:30
still working from home, but
02:34
brand new podcasters always ask
02:34
me, How do you navigate summer
02:38
months? So I want y'all to take
02:38
like does podcasting change for
02:43
either one of you? Whenever
02:43
summertime hits Jordan, like
02:46
what's your take on that?
02:48  Unknown
I'm not a whole lot
02:48
though. I have taken one break
02:52
from my podcast before. So I do
02:52
have some experience with that.
02:56
But yeah, during the summer
02:56
months, I don't really change
02:59
too much.
03:00  Krystal
And tell us what it
03:00
What's your style. Tell us a
03:02
little bit about your podcast,
03:02
like what's the format of your
03:05
show.
03:05  Unknown
It's a fictional
03:05
storytelling. It's very
03:08
episodic, you know, you can jump
03:08
around and stuff like that. But
03:11
when I took a vacation, I just
03:11
reached out to other podcasts in
03:15
my genre, and did little
03:15
features. They sent me an
03:19
episode of theirs. And so as a
03:19
placeholder for my episodes,
03:25
every time I suppose drop an
03:25
episode of mine, I would drop an
03:27
episode of theirs and just tell
03:27
people like, hey, still on
03:30
break, but in the meantime,
03:30
check out this other podcast and
03:33
that worked really great.
03:35  Krystal
I like that. I like
03:35
that. What about you carry on?
03:38  Unknown
like Jordan, I just
03:38
keep the same routine. Listeners
03:42
might drop off a little bit
03:42
because they're on summer
03:44
vacation. But keep it the same
03:44
regular try to do maybe fun
03:49
episodes, but don't change it
03:49
too much. I've tried to do
03:53
little things where if there was
03:53
an episode that was really
03:56
popular, I'd go back and maybe
03:56
add commentary and maybe put
04:01
like, Hey, here's a little
04:01
excerpt from that episode, you
04:04
should go check it out and maybe
04:04
add some more commentary to it.
04:07
But other than that, I just keep
04:07
producing and recording.
04:12  Krystal
Yeah, so what's your
04:12
typical schedule look like? Are
04:15
you publishing once a week twice
04:15
a week? Like what what's your
04:18
typical schedule for your
04:18
podcast?
04:21  Unknown
So I want to say bi
04:21
weekly, but people get tripped
04:25
up by what bi weekly mean? So
04:25
every other week I put out in
04:28
episodes at least two episodes a
04:28
month and I just keep with that
04:33
routine through the entire
04:33
summer unless something crazy
04:37
happens and we have to do a
04:37
bonus episode Other than that,
04:40
just keep it consistent
04:41  Krystal
and don't want to go
04:41
down in English language rabbit
04:44
hole but bi weekly reading twice
04:44
a week like that's exactly what
04:48
I think of it. I think that's
04:48
what everybody thinks up so I'm
04:50
so glad you
04:54  Unknown
know, I've had people
04:54
are like, do you meet twice a
04:56
week and I'm like no, every
04:56
other week
04:59
yeah. As someone with an
04:59
accounting background, it's
05:03
every other week, twice a week
05:03
would be like, I don't know,
05:08
I don't know.
05:10
Twice a week.
05:13  Krystal
Well, I love that, you
05:13
know, we have to explain these
05:16
things because we hear them so
05:16
often whenever someone says that
05:20
it's like, No, no, let me
05:20
explain this to you. It doesn't
05:23
mean like it. And this is such a
05:23
great point for brand new
05:26
podcasters, or anybody that's
05:26
listening, like how to tell your
05:29
audience to listen to your show
05:29
is so important. That way. They
05:34
don't feel dumb, like, Oh, wait,
05:34
she just said bi weekly. There
05:38
was somebody that googled it. As
05:38
soon as you said it, they're
05:40
like, Oh, what is carry on me?
05:40
And I'm gonna look this what is
05:42
bi weekly, because I don't know
05:42
what that is. So I think that
05:46
it's really important to talk to
05:46
your audience in a way where
05:49
they know how to find your show,
05:49
cuz it's going to make it more
05:51
successful. Right? Absolutely. I
05:51
wanted to talk a little bit, you
05:58
know, we've had the summer
05:58
months transitioning, you know,
06:02
from the kids and everything.
06:02
People being in school people
06:06
trying to figure out navigate
06:06
the new normal of what's going
06:09
on in the world, you know, and I
06:09
know that people listen to this
06:12
podcast from all over the globe.
06:12
So there's no telling exactly
06:16
how like, oh, it has your
06:16
country open up. Are you still
06:19
on lockdown. So it may not be
06:19
any different for some people.
06:23
And it could be totally
06:23
different week to week,
06:26
depending on where someone
06:26
lives. But I know, podcast
06:29
conferences are something that I
06:29
wanted to touch on, especially
06:32
because Cariann and I recently
06:32
attended a virtual conference
06:36
and we're all praying that you
06:36
know, the in person conferences
06:40
are going to be coming back this
06:40
year. I cannot wait. I cannot
06:43
wait to like see you all in
06:43
person. I'm just being squeezed.
06:47  Unknown
So the kids are out on
06:47
school and we are back in school
06:51
via podcast conferencing.
06:51
Virtual or in person. You're
06:56
right. You know, summer is that
06:56
time where we have a lot of
06:59
podcasts conference. So it was
06:59
that airship one did I butcher
07:03
that? Yeah.
07:03  Krystal
No, that's it.
07:04  Unknown
Yeah, that was a really
07:04
good one. I didn't get to see
07:07
all of it. But I definitely had
07:07
some really good sessions there.
07:11
Obviously. Albin was a presenter
07:11
and I liked the one with Sally,
07:16
her ship on storytelling for
07:16
audio. I think that was a really
07:20
good one. And the capstone for
07:20
that event was Tom Webster from
07:26
Edison research. That's his
07:26
name, right? I'm like fudging
07:29
names, right. But he gave some
07:29
really good stats on podcasting,
07:35
which Alban, of course, live
07:35
tweeted. So I will make sure
07:39
that you have a link to that
07:39
thread in the show notes. But
07:43
there were some key takeaways
07:43
from that were the top platform
07:49
for podcasts were Apple, Spotify
07:49
and YouTube. And if you combined
07:54
it, Google and YouTube would be
07:54
third. But then he said
07:58
something very interesting that
07:58
if you let the the listener
08:03
choose the platform, they choose
08:03
YouTube first, and like my mouth
08:06
was on the floor, you know. So
08:06
Alvin and I were tweeting about
08:09
that. And the other thing that
08:09
he said, which was very
08:14
critical, and we talked about
08:14
this in the chat, he said, where
08:18
you found your original audience
08:18
is not where you will find your
08:21
new audience. And so remember,
08:21
we were having that discussion
08:25
about listening to audiobooks,
08:25
and audible and then can't
08:29
listen to podcasts and audible.
08:29
I think that's a lot to do with
08:33
how new listeners where they
08:33
reside, and you kind of have to
08:38
find them in these new areas. I
08:38
think it was very interesting.
08:42
The stats that were coming out,
08:42
so and that's my first
08:45
conference for the summer. So I
08:45
can only imagine what's going to
08:48
happen at podcast movement.
08:50  Krystal
Yes, yes. Jordan, what
08:50
about you? Have you attended
08:52
many podcast conferences since
08:52
you became a podcaster? Either
08:56
virtual or in person.
08:59  Unknown
I've actually, I've
08:59
never attended one in person.
09:04
I've attended a couple virtual
09:04
conferences. And I'm actually
09:08
really impressed with like what
09:08
they did. And for me, it was
09:11
great being able to go back and
09:11
watch recordings and stuff like
09:15
that. So that's something that's
09:15
really cool. It's come out of
09:17
the pandemic, but I am. Oh, no,
09:17
like, I mean, we're going to be
09:22
speaking at the podcast movement
09:22
this year, but it's gonna be the
09:25
first in person one for me. So
09:25
I'm like, a little scared. I'm
09:31
not sure what to expect. But if
09:31
it's anything like these, I
09:35
mean, if it's anything better
09:35
than these online, ones that
09:39
they are doing, then I'm jazzed
09:39
about, it's just going to be
09:41
amazing.
09:43  Krystal
Yes. And that's going
09:43
to be right at the end of the
09:45
set. Well, I don't know. It's
09:45
kind of weird, you know, because
09:47
I say the end of the summer
09:47
because I think of it as like,
09:50
you know, it's we're winding
09:50
down going back to school, I
09:53
think it's like right at the
09:53
beginning of August. So it's the
09:55
first week of August. So anybody
09:55
that's going to podcast
09:58
movement, like we're gonna be
09:58
there. We're all really excited.
10:01
And we're all probably going to
10:01
throw up right before we go on
10:04
stage. So y'all just like, let
10:04
us get a breath mint, and then
10:08
come up and give us a high five,
10:08
and then we'll talk to you
10:10
because we're all it's gonna be
10:10
fun, I joke about it, but we're
10:14
all a little nervous, but it's
10:14
gonna be fun,
10:17  Unknown
we'll be fine, we'll be
10:17
fine. We're just like, you know,
10:21
we'll be around the Buzzsprout
10:21
crew, we'll see all our other
10:24
podcast friends. And so nerves
10:24
will wear out and the fun will
10:28
kick in.
10:29
Because we have such a fun
10:29
track, you know, doing the thing
10:33
with like, beginning podcasters.
10:33
Like, that's the most exciting
10:36
part. And so we have, by far the
10:36
most fun track ever to be
10:42
working on. So it'll be great.
10:42
It'd be very nervous at first,
10:46
but it'll be great.
10:48  Krystal
If you see us
10:48
beforehand, just don't talk to
10:50
us beforehand, well hang out
10:50
afterwards. We are going to talk
10:57
now about podcast communities.
10:57
Because this is something that I
11:02
get asked about so much is like
11:02
how do you build a community
11:05
around your podcast? And how do
11:05
you you know, get these people
11:09
to like, really just be engaged
11:09
with your content and go all in
11:13
with what you do. So carry on. I
11:13
know you have a really big
11:17
community of podcasters because
11:17
it's so Nish. It's so
11:21
incredible. I love all the
11:21
things that you're doing. So can
11:24
you talk a little bit about your
11:24
own experience in finding a
11:28
podcast community and what it's
11:28
been like to grow one yourself?
11:33  Unknown
Um, you know, it's it's
11:33
like dating, you know, each
11:37
community has a vibe, a mood,
11:37
and you want to find a community
11:44
where you feel like you fit in,
11:44
and you could ask questions and
11:46
not feel like you're judged.
11:46
Even if they may judge you, you
11:50
just feel like, hey, so what
11:50
crystals gonna say this, but I
11:54
think it's important not to feel
11:54
like I have to do this. You want
11:58
to be in a place where you're
11:58
comfortable? Because if you're
12:01
not, then I wouldn't be able to
12:01
ask questions, and we'll laugh
12:04
about it. Haha. Okay, all right,
12:04
seriously, carry on, here's what
12:07
you do. And I think that's very
12:07
important as podcasters because
12:10
if you're not comfortable asking
12:10
questions, then it's very hard
12:14
to grow. And so for me, that
12:14
took some time to find a place
12:19
where I felt comfortable and
12:19
also find a community where they
12:24
were talking about or
12:24
addressing, in my case, a
12:26
similar demographic, which was
12:26
being of Caribbean heritage. And
12:30
that took a while to grow.
12:30
Because I started podcasting
12:34
way, way back in the last decade
12:34
or so, you know, you know, Oh,
12:40
geez, well, not original
12:40
original. But you know what I
12:46
mean, and, you know, that
12:46
experience in where the spaces
12:52
with Caribbean podcasters is
12:52
just so amazing to see. And
12:57
there's a profile we have on
12:57
Caribbean podcast directory,
12:59
where someone just said exactly
12:59
how I feel they said, all of us
13:03
with our podcast, collectively,
13:03
are telling or retelling stories
13:08
of the Caribbean and the
13:08
Caribbean American experience.
13:10
And that is just awesome. So to
13:10
answer your question, find a
13:14
community where you feel like
13:14
you could fit in, or your
13:17
personality matches, but they'll
13:17
challenge you. And don't be
13:22
afraid to make friends. It's you
13:22
know, it's like what middle
13:25
school high school all over
13:25
again, but got to do it.
13:28  Krystal
Yes. Oh my gosh, this
13:28
is so good. And I love I love
13:31
you explaining like the feelings
13:31
of it. And like the vibes and
13:34
the moods and all the things
13:34
because I feel like everybody
13:37
can relate to that. Oh, this is
13:37
so good. But I have to go back
13:40
and think about carrion is a
13:40
baby podcaster. Right, you're
13:44
just getting started? Did you
13:44
actually go and seek community?
13:48
like did you did you? Or did you
13:48
just find some podcasters?
13:51
You're like, hey, you're kind of
13:51
doing the same thing. Like maybe
13:53
you know what you're talking
13:53
about? Like, what did that look
13:55
like whenever you first kind of
13:55
stumbled into your first
13:57
community of podcasters?
14:00  Unknown
To be honest, it wasn't
14:00
until two years later that I
14:02
found community because I
14:02
thought it was just me. I
14:05
thought it was me. I'm sorry. I
14:05
do music a lot. So you know, I
14:09
thought it was just me. And then
14:09
I remember distinctively,
14:13
someone said, Hey, you know, you
14:13
should try to go to podcast
14:18
movement. I was like, say what
14:18
now they have a thing like that.
14:21
And that's how I went to podcast
14:21
movement in Anaheim the first
14:25
year. And that's when I met all
14:25
my podcast friends. And ever
14:30
since I go to podcast movement,
14:30
we just hang out read. They're
14:33
just like, Hey, friends, what's
14:33
going on with session you going
14:36
to? All right. And so it took
14:36
two years. Imagine two whole two
14:40
years before I found a community
14:40
because podcasting back then
14:44
didn't. It's not like what it is
14:44
now where you see it everywhere.
14:47
And I'm grateful to the person
14:47
who suggested that I applied to
14:52
be a speaker. And I think it was
14:52
an effort on podcast movement to
14:56
try to get more people to come
14:56
to the event. And that's what
14:59
happens when you're in tensional
14:59
about growing a community. And
15:03
because you can't assume that
15:03
you're visible, you know, you
15:05
can't assume that everyone knows
15:05
who you are. And I think that's
15:09
why, you know, finding people
15:09
like now I find people say, Hey,
15:13
what are you doing? But yeah,
15:13
back in the day took me the
15:15
whole two years. And when I
15:15
found them, it was my world
15:19
changed. My world change. I
15:19
can't, I'm not gonna kill the
15:23
whole episode with this. But my
15:23
world changed when I went to
15:25
podcast, and met some amazing
15:25
people. That's awesome. Oh,
15:29
that's so good.
15:30  Krystal
And I just love to hear
15:30
the backstory. Because I think a
15:32
lot of podcasters, like you
15:32
said, you know, you think of
15:35
yourself as you're on an island,
15:35
you're the only one that has
15:38
your message has your story. And
15:38
you know your purpose. And we
15:41
all have different purposes for
15:41
podcasting. But it's so cool
15:45
when you find this community of
15:45
people that are all trying to
15:48
move a message forward. And
15:48
like, collectively, we're all
15:52
kind of like locking arms and
15:52
saying, No, you're not going to
15:54
get stuck in your technical
15:54
snafu and your equipment, like
15:58
we're all going to walk through
15:58
this together. But Jordan, I
16:01
know that you have a totally
16:01
different experience. And, by
16:04
the way, if you are part of our
16:04
Buzzsprout Facebook group, I
16:09
would like to introduce you to
16:09
Jordan, one of our moderators
16:12
who helps make the world go
16:12
round in our Facebook community.
16:16
So tell us about your experience
16:16
with podcast and just like
16:19
having a community of people
16:19
around you.
16:22  Unknown
Yeah, I mean, I have a
16:22
completely different experience
16:25
than Carrie. And I did I mean, I
16:25
can't even fathom my podcast
16:31
isn't even two years old yet.
16:31
And I can't fathom having done
16:34
this by myself, like literally
16:34
just shouting into the void. And
16:38
there being like, no one around,
16:38
I can't even fathom it. So for
16:42
me, you know, I got started
16:42
podcasting because of
16:46
Buzzsprout. And because of this
16:46
podcast that we're on right now,
16:50
Buzzcast. And I joined their
16:50
Facebook group, and just really
16:56
got involved and really dove
16:56
into it. So I mean, before I
17:00
even put out my first episode, I
17:00
was like in it and trying to
17:06
seek out that community and it
17:06
was not hard to find. So I feel
17:10
really fortunate in that way,
17:10
you know, just hearing karianne
17:13
story. But yeah, I just I love
17:13
how there's, you know, over
17:17
20,000 members in that Facebook
17:17
group, and everyone is so
17:20
stinking nice and helpful and
17:20
willing to share things. And
17:24
it's just, it's incredible. It's
17:24
awesome. No,
17:27  Krystal
this is so good.
17:27
Because I think that this is
17:30
this is the different side of
17:30
community, right? Where if, if
17:33
someone is really stuck, right,
17:33
we're talking to anybody that's
17:37
listening, if you are really
17:37
stuck in your podcast, and
17:39
you're like, I don't know where
17:39
to turn to. I come here week
17:42
after week, you know, and I
17:42
listen to podcasts, and I watch
17:45
YouTube videos, and I see
17:45
podcasters having fun, like from
17:48
a distance. If that's you, come
17:48
join us, like come be part of
17:52
the Buzzsprout Buzzcast
17:52
community because y'all were
17:54
having a good time. Like, I'm
17:54
not gonna speak for everybody,
17:57
but the three of us were having
17:57
a good time, because that's what
18:01
makes it so fun is being part of
18:01
the community being connected.
18:04
And I just love that I know if I
18:04
get stuck somewhere, I have a
18:07
group of people that I can reach
18:07
out to and say, I think I broke
18:11
the internet did. Can you help
18:11
me fix this? Because I did
18:16
something wrong. And then
18:16
usually like, I mean, there's so
18:19
many really smart people in
18:19
audio, like, I'm just gonna
18:22
throw that out there. People are
18:22
always like, Oh, you teach
18:24
podcasting. You must know all
18:24
the things. And I'm like, No,
18:27
actually, I have, like six
18:27
people on speed dial that I use
18:31
on a regular basis and say, can
18:31
you help out with this? Because
18:35
I'm stuck. And I don't know what
18:35
to do. So if y'all need help,
18:38
come join us. We have a
18:38
fantastic community of
18:42
podcasters. Is there anything
18:42
else you want to add about
18:44
podcast community?
18:45  Unknown
I think that last point
18:45
you made is important, right?
18:48
That you think that because
18:48
you're an expert. You know
18:51
everything right? There's always
18:51
a problem that stumped someone.
18:55
And I think the fun thing about
18:55
podcasting, everyone then tries
18:59
to figure it out. Aha, there's a
18:59
problem. Let's go sleuthing. I
19:03
feel that's the vibe that we
19:03
get. And it's like, Huh, like
19:07
you, Jordan, when you have that
19:07
little noise thing? And we're
19:10
like, Where did that come from?
19:10
mysterious noise mysterious.
19:14
Like I said, alien noise. You
19:14
know, so I think, you know,
19:19
don't be afraid or think you
19:19
know, enough. Or you should know
19:22
this. There's always something
19:22
that is a challenge for people
19:26
to uncover. And it also adds to
19:26
their knowledge bank when they
19:30
do, you know, figure out a
19:30
solution. So don't feel
19:33
intimidated that Oh, I should
19:33
know this and you don't know
19:36
this. And that's been my
19:36
experience. People want to learn
19:39
together. And as we are doing
19:39
this real time, it's how we
19:44
uncover our problems and
19:44
collectively work on solutions.
19:48
Yeah, I mean, there's there's
19:48
also another aspect to the
19:52
community where maybe you're not
19:52
in conversation with these
19:56
people. But um, I see a lot
19:56
within our community and within
20:03
the people that we are
20:03
interacting with and stuff that,
20:07
you know, it's it's like new
20:07
podcasters coming in, and
20:09
they're saying, you know, oh, I
20:09
want to make a podcast and it's
20:13
interview based, but there's
20:13
just there's so much competition
20:16
out there, there's so much
20:16
competition. And that's just the
20:18
word I hear over and over again.
20:18
And I feel like there needs to
20:21
be a bit of a mind, mind shift
20:21
change, you know, there needs to
20:24
be a little bit of a more
20:24
positive spin put on this,
20:30
because if you think about it,
20:30
our goal as podcasters is to
20:34
serve the audience and
20:34
audience's interests, whether
20:38
that be entertainment or
20:38
education, or whatever. And, you
20:41
know, for example, if someone is
20:41
a fan of Marvel, they're not
20:46
just going to watch the Spider
20:46
Man movies. And that's it.
20:48
That's their favorite. That's
20:48
it, they're not touching
20:50
anything else, they're going to
20:50
watch all of the movies, they're
20:54
gonna watch, you know, decade's
20:54
worth of movies, they're gonna
20:57
watch Agents of SHIELD and watch
20:57
all the new Disney shows,
21:00
they're going to consume as much
21:00
Marvel as humanly possible. And
21:04
they might even dabble in some
21:04
DC stuff. You know what I mean.
21:09
And that's the same thing for,
21:09
let's say, sports. Yeah, people
21:12
have a favorite sports team, but
21:12
they're going to watch like, all
21:14
the games, they're also going to
21:14
watch the college games, and
21:17
they're going to interact with
21:17
all this stuff. And they're
21:20
going to consume as much as they
21:20
can, because that's what they
21:22
love. And it's no different for
21:22
podcasting. There's no reason
21:27
why we need to have this mindset
21:27
that there can only be one true
21:30
crime podcast, and that's it.
21:30
You know, I know, speaking from
21:33
experience, I want as much as I
21:33
can get, and the more great
21:37
shows that are out there, the
21:37
better. I want all of it. And so
21:42
you know, as long as you're
21:42
intentional, and you're
21:45
contributing to that, I think
21:45
that it would be so beneficial
21:49
for us to have this community
21:49
mindset as opposed to
21:52
competition mindset.
21:54  Krystal
That's awesome. And I
21:54
mean, I'm not gonna lie. You
21:57
said Marvel. And I'm just
21:57
thinking of Chris Hemsworth.
22:00
Because I love I mean, I'm just,
22:00
I'm a boy, mom. And I'm not
22:03
going to complain that Marvel is
22:03
in and around this house
22:06
everywhere, because I love it so
22:06
much, but no, like to be like,
22:10
totally back to your point. I
22:10
love the fact that community is
22:15
what brought the three of us
22:15
together and the fact that
22:19
without this podcast community,
22:19
I mean, like you said, Jordan, I
22:22
couldn't imagine being in
22:22
carians position, starting at
22:25
the beginning and just feeling
22:25
like, oh, man, I wish that I had
22:28
this, which I mean, obviously,
22:28
carry on. You didn't even know
22:31
you were just doing your thing.
22:31
Yeah. Like, I didn't even know I
22:33
was missing out on anything
22:33
until it's like, oh, wait, here
22:35
it is. Here's my people, I'm
22:35
gonna go join them. Because they
22:38
look like they're gonna have fun
22:38
or we're all gonna I'm gonna
22:41
start a party in here. Because
22:41
that's how carrion is. We are
22:46
actually going to move into our
22:46
next segment, which is the one
22:50
that makes us all. I feel like
22:50
bawling my fist and cringing a
22:55
little bit because it's more
22:55
about Apple podcasts. So I'm
23:00
just, yeah, yeah, there's a lot
23:00
of sighing and a lot of eye
23:06
rolls. You know, I, I think that
23:06
Oh, I just Yeah, I don't does
23:14
anybody want to know, but know
23:14
where to start? Where to start?
23:17
I mean, yeah.
23:18  Unknown
Go ahead. All hop in
23:18
here. Um, yeah. So I mean, we
23:23
heard that they were dropping
23:23
this. And it was like, okay,
23:26
like, you know, their, their cut
23:26
of it. And the processing fee.
23:30
It's a little pricey, but it's
23:30
also Apple podcasts, and it gets
23:34
you like, right in front of
23:34
people. So I was willing to,
23:36
like, jump in on it. So I think
23:36
like, mid May, I paid like the
23:40
20 bucks to hop in there. And I
23:40
was gonna be like one of those
23:43
first people. And I haven't seen
23:43
a return on my investment quite
23:48
yet. Yeah, I mean, and we all
23:48
got the email Friday, about how
23:56
they're finally like, they're
23:56
just like, Yeah, all right. We
24:00
were delayed. Yeah, we've had
24:00
some problems. But you know, and
24:06
I also installed the new 14.6
24:06
iOS update that is supposed to
24:13
include like a podcast
24:13
subscription stuff, so it feels
24:16
like we're moving towards it.
24:16
But I haven't seen any channels.
24:21
On that update. I can't seem to
24:21
find them. Maybe I'm just not
24:23
very good at looking for them.
24:23
But I cannot seem to find it on
24:27
the podcast app. Have you guys
24:27
messed with that at all? No, no.
24:33
To be honest, so when the
24:33
announcement first came out, I
24:37
realized that the channels took
24:37
over the the feature where like
24:44
a publisher or studio had its
24:44
own page, and I asked that
24:49
question, because I was like,
24:49
What is this about? But I think
24:54
overall, the issue isn't so much
24:54
with the glitch because most
24:59
Tech has As a glitch or
24:59
something, it's the lack of
25:02
communication that I think is
25:02
the most frustrating. And it's
25:08
almost as if we felt like we
25:08
were complaining, and no one was
25:14
like paying attention to us not
25:14
validating or complaints or the
25:18
issues or the questions. And,
25:18
and so every time something
25:23
comes up is like, Oh, one more
25:23
thing on this whole frustrating
25:27
rollout of a product. And so for
25:27
you, Jordan, listening to how
25:32
you're up to your experience,
25:32
I'm like, I don't know if I want
25:35
to do this subscription thing,
25:35
because it's like an aversion at
25:38
this point.
25:39
Absolutely. And I completely
25:39
agree with you about the lack of
25:42
communication, it's not only
25:42
lack of communication, within
25:46
the glitches, it's also a lack
25:46
of communication in like, the
25:49
process to get listed, and what
25:49
that entails and what this all
25:53
means. Because, you know, one
25:53
minute we're hearing that we can
25:57
do this, and the next that. So
25:57
for example, they're saying,
26:00
like, yeah, you can have free
26:00
podcasts, freemium, podcasts,
26:04
and paid podcasts. And I'm,
26:04
like, great, and they're like,
26:07
hey, if you have channels, then
26:07
you could have like, free
26:09
channels. But if you have like
26:09
free content with paid content
26:13
on the channel, you gotta pay
26:13
for the channel itself before
26:15
you can get the free stuff too.
26:15
Which sounds absurd to me. But
26:21
I, I don't understand how its
26:21
freemium works. I mean, you
26:24
know, you guys saw I posted our
26:24
group chat, but I was trying to
26:28
get it set up. And I was
26:28
following their steps. And like,
26:34
step four in the process is
26:34
like, upload your bonus content
26:38
that you want to be behind a
26:38
paywall. So I'm like, Alright,
26:41
do that. And then step five says
26:41
create a channel. And then in
26:45
order to set up a subscription
26:45
price, you have to create a
26:48
channel, will if I create a
26:48
channel, but I have paid stuff
26:53
by I need it freemium, does that
26:53
mean someone has to pay to be on
26:56
the channel in order to get my
26:56
freemium content? And so I don't
27:00
know if that is actually true?
27:00
Because if so that doesn't make
27:04
sense. And that's very clunky.
27:04
It's created some confusion
27:07
within the community. And so I'm
27:07
wondering if this is another one
27:12
of those things where they're
27:12
telling us like, Oh, yeah, I
27:15
mean, if you have paid content
27:15
on a channel, or freemium
27:19
content channel, then you have
27:19
to pay for the channel. But what
27:22
they actually mean is you have
27:22
to create that in order to I
27:25
don't know, it's just all it's
27:25
not making sense.
27:29
There's already so much
27:29
ambiguous information out there
27:32
with podcasting, and so many
27:32
things to figure out. And this
27:35
is just one added thing that the
27:35
industry doesn't need, because
27:43
it just makes it all the more
27:43
complicated. And I think it
27:45
could have been a little easier.
27:45
And it goes back, not to the
27:51
tech glitches, because we've all
27:51
had glitches in our podcasting
27:55
career. It's just that
27:55
communication is like, yeah, we
27:58
understand that you're
27:58
experiencing this. And yeah, we
28:01
apologize for the confusion.
28:01
Yeah, let's do this. It is the
28:06
customer experience, we've come
28:06
to know that as with all the
28:10
Apple products, let us apply
28:10
that to the podcasting aspect of
28:14
apple. And I think that's what
28:14
people are kind of having a
28:17
disconnect with, when it comes
28:17
to that. This whole rollout To
28:22
be quite honest, and just
28:22
observing because there is
28:26
there's there's also frustration
28:26
on the part, I'm sure of
28:31
providers like Buzzsprout,
28:31
because you're their their their
28:35
customers are asking them
28:35
questions. And I'm sure they
28:37
don't even know the answers to
28:37
some of these questions. Because
28:39
they too, are just trying to
28:39
figure it out. And it's almost
28:43
like, what can we put in place?
28:43
When platforms like apple or
28:47
Spotify, whoever do these
28:47
things? Should there be a
28:52
connection with the hosting
28:52
providers or someone to help
28:55
with the tech support? I don't
28:55
know. And I think these are all
28:59
they're more questions than
28:59
answers. It's just me just kind
29:02
of thinking through all these
29:02
challenges, and how long so it's
29:06
pushed off to June today's June
29:06
1. So How much longer will we go
29:10
through this? You know, process
29:10
and will this last till the end
29:14
of the year? That's the question
29:14
at this point.
29:17
And that's exactly it. You know,
29:17
that's, that's exactly it. We
29:20
just don't know, even though
29:20
they sent us the email and
29:22
they're like, Hey, we're
29:22
acknowledging these problems.
29:25
But and we said it was gonna be
29:25
made but don't worry, it's gonna
29:28
be June. It's like, is it isn't
29:28
though, guys, you know, so you
29:34
just they're, they're not very
29:34
definitive about things. And
29:36
they're not saying like, why it
29:36
was postponed. They're not
29:39
giving any of the information.
29:39
They're saying, like, Hey, we
29:42
rolled out these things, but
29:42
then you like, can't see it.
29:45
It's just it's it's not tangible
29:45
at this point. And I'm trying to
29:49
get my stuff listed. I'm trying
29:49
to mess with it. I'm doing
29:52
everything I can, but I can't
29:52
see any sort of fruits of my
29:59
labor here. Like I'm doing
29:59
everything I can to kind of like
30:03
mess with it and see if I can
30:03
test some things out how it
30:06
works, you know, look under the
30:06
hood a little bit. And even
30:10
though it's there, it's not it's
30:10
this weird facade. It's kind of
30:14
like their affiliate program
30:14
where they have that, but then
30:16
the like, the form doesn't work.
30:16
And so you can't sign up anyway.
30:19
And I just feel like there's a
30:19
lot of that going on right now.
30:22
Crystal, anyone in your
30:22
community that's asking
30:24
questions about the subscription
30:24
app, and and it's not working
30:29
for them. I'm curious to hear
30:29
what others are experiencing?
30:32  Krystal
Well, for me, as
30:32
someone who teaches
30:35
entrepreneurs how to get their
30:35
podcast started, the most
30:38
frustrating part for me is the
30:38
idea that Apple has put out
30:43
this, you know, this platform,
30:43
this product, and it's not
30:47
working properly, and their
30:47
immediate concern is, okay, so I
30:51
don't need Buzzsprout anymore.
30:51
And I know like everybody, uh,
30:54
Buzzsprout. like, Wait, hang on,
30:54
don't even say that don't even
30:57
like talk about that at all.
30:57
Because that's like, you know,
31:00
we would never want that to
31:00
happen. But at the end of the
31:03
day, it's the question I'm
31:03
getting asked a lot. And my
31:05
immediate response is, it
31:05
doesn't work, like, like, Where
31:10
are you gonna go? It's like, why
31:10
would you go anywhere. And I'm
31:15
not saying that, you know, and I
31:15
get it, I've been part of
31:18
launches and iterations and
31:18
iterations of software, I get
31:22
that there's bugs. And there's
31:22
probably so many people on the
31:26
apple platform that immediately
31:26
was like, oh, something's new.
31:30
Let me jump on it. Just like all
31:30
of us were early adopters of
31:33
stuff or like, let me jump in
31:33
there. But as everyone saw, kind
31:36
of over the month of May, I saw
31:36
some really big podcasts, not
31:39
just some small independent
31:39
podcast, or some really big
31:42
podcast just totally disappear
31:42
off the apple platform. And I
31:46
just, you know, I'm assuming
31:46
that it was the result of some
31:50
bugs and glitches in their
31:50
system. So my take on it is, I
31:55
am not a huge fan of adding in
31:55
more steps or decisions to make
31:59
for a brand new podcaster where
31:59
they have to say, should I just
32:03
only be Apple exclusive, and you
32:03
know, we could watch another
32:07
episode for another time is all
32:07
the other platforms like
32:10
Spotify, saying they're gonna do
32:10
something very similar. And
32:13
they're like, you know, I feel
32:13
like they're the greatest
32:17
example, in a great analogy I
32:17
use the other day since we
32:21
talked about Marvel. And now
32:21
we're gonna talk about Kong Vs.
32:24
Godzilla, cuz I watched this
32:24
with the kids too. And it's
32:27
really good. If y'all haven't
32:27
seen it, it's really good. I
32:29
liked it. But it's, it's I think
32:29
about these two giants, right?
32:33
And they're just fighting to get
32:33
the attention of the podcast
32:36
consumer. But yet, here we are.
32:36
We're the podcast producers. And
32:40
they're mostly worried about
32:40
people that are consuming the
32:43
podcast, and they're just like,
32:43
we got to get the most
32:45
attention. Because we're just
32:45
fighting to the death. That's
32:49
really what I feel like it's
32:49
like this fight to the death to
32:51
see who's gonna be the
32:51
superpower who's gonna be the
32:53
tide on top is like, and I just
32:53
feel like, it's like, we're the
32:58
bystanders on the sidelines
32:58
eating or popcorn saying, you
33:01
know, I just hope somebody set
33:01
somebody on fire soon. Like, if
33:04
we're gonna be here for this
33:04
show. Like, I
33:06  Unknown
think we're actually
33:06
gonna table in the building,
33:08
like as it's going down.
33:14  Krystal
Screaming Why is this
33:14
happening? Why are you even
33:17
here? Know where the tiny person
33:17
yelling don't go? And they're
33:25
like, Ah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my
33:25
gosh,
33:29  Unknown
you know, one of the
33:29
things I was just absolutely
33:32
thinking of crystal when you
33:32
were talking about people being
33:34
like, Oh, well, should I just go
33:34
Apple exclusive, then basically,
33:38
you know, and it's like, no, it.
33:38
I mean, honestly, vast majority,
33:42
the world are not even iPhone
33:42
users. Yes. Like people in other
33:45
countries don't even use
33:45
iPhones. They're usually like
33:49
Android based users. And so I
33:49
don't know why you would, you
33:54
know, put yourself into that
33:54
little category. You know, and
33:58
in, you know, for me, I mean,
33:58
Apple is like, nothing on my
34:02
listener base. And so some of
34:02
that has to do with your
34:05
audience as well. My audience is
34:05
vast majority Spotify, and like,
34:10
I don't know, 8%, Apple
34:10
podcasts. So I just don't, I
34:15
don't think it's wise to just go
34:15
with one specific platform. You
34:21
just should not do that. Because
34:21
you never know where your
34:23
audience is going to be.
34:25  Krystal
This is interesting.
34:25
Actually, I want to talk about
34:27
this for a second Cariann. What
34:27
is your experience like
34:29
percentage wise? What are your
34:29
top two or three players that
34:33
you have on your podcast?
34:36  Unknown
Well, I'm not in
34:36
Spotify. So my number one is
34:40
Apple, and iTunes and then
34:40
whatever else comes after that
34:44
maybe stitcher and maybe Google
34:44
podcasts or any of the other pod
34:48
catchers, but I'm not the
34:48
podcast is no longer an app on
34:51
Spotify.
34:52  Krystal
Now, that's really
34:52
interesting. Mine's about I
34:54
would say between 75 and 80%.
34:54
Apple, and then I actually get a
34:59
lot of plays on my butt.
34:59
Buzzsprout website. So this is a
35:01
little plug for your Buzzsprout
35:01
website, like I put it in all my
35:04
show notes. And I still have a
35:04
lot of people that go to my
35:07
website and listen there. So, I
35:07
mean, at the end of the day, I
35:11
think that Apple is their
35:11
intentions are good to try to
35:15
move podcasting forward. I just
35:15
think that with this particular
35:18
rollout, and especially we'll
35:18
link to, we found an article and
35:23
the title of it just the
35:23
headline of it. It says Apple
35:25
delays podcast subscriptions to
35:25
June, which that's what we were
35:29
talking about earlier. And you
35:29
know, it's just, oh, just lots
35:34
of size, y'all just lots of
35:34
sighs just wondering what's
35:38
going to happen. I'm sure
35:38
everything's going to be figured
35:40
out over the next six to 12
35:40
months. I keep telling people,
35:44
my community just the way that
35:44
you consume podcasts. And you
35:47
understand podcasting as it is
35:47
today. I see it being vastly
35:51
different in the next 12 months,
35:51
just because so much has already
35:55
changed in the last six months
35:55
with how you know, like
35:58
clubhouse like, let's talk about
35:58
clubhouse for a second. I know
36:01
that, you know, we've we've had
36:01
several listening experiences of
36:05
Buzzcast episodes where they
36:05
talk about clubhouse, and
36:08
Facebook rollouts and
36:08
everything. So what are your
36:10
thoughts about consuming audio
36:10
that isn't just a podcast
36:15
experience?
36:18  Unknown
I can tell you, I just
36:18
did a focus group with my
36:20
audience. They're like, Nah,
36:20
they want it asynchronous. They
36:22
want to listen to it on their
36:22
time. And some people were like,
36:26
I can't even bother to learn a
36:26
new platform at this point. And
36:30
so in for us, it's a it's a new
36:30
way to engage. But I think for
36:36
me the challenge with the
36:36
clubhouse and not so much
36:41
Twitter spaces, it's just like,
36:41
the timing is always weird.
36:45
Like, who has time to do this 12
36:45
o'clock in the afternoon. It's
36:49
just always weird or 11 o'clock
36:49
at night. I'm like, if it's not
36:52
work kids are trying to get so
36:52
it's never been the quite the
36:55
right timing. So my experience
36:55
has just been it's been a lot.
36:59
And I just like with all that I
36:59
have going on, it's very hard to
37:02
fit it into my daily routine.
37:05
I completely agree with you
37:05
carry on. It's pretty
37:07
inconvenient. And yeah, it's,
37:07
it's hard to because you know, I
37:13
might go into a room because
37:13
there's someone I'm a fan of,
37:16
and then someone gets on stage
37:16
and they are like, long winded
37:19
as all get out. And nobody can
37:19
get a word in edgewise. And then
37:24
you're like 10 minutes into it.
37:24
They haven't even asked the guy
37:27
that question. So I just I've
37:27
been a little bit turned off by
37:31
it just from like, my personal
37:31
experience, because is
37:34
inconvenient, or somewhat
37:34
annoying. I would just prefer to
37:38
listen to that person's podcast
37:38
or whatever they're involved in.
37:43  Krystal
Yeah, you heard it
37:43
here. First. You're like, this
37:46
is this is the Buzzcast
37:46
Buzzsprout creators like take on
37:50
clubhouse? I mean, my own Yeah,
37:50
a hot take. Like my own personal
37:54
experience has been I if I go
37:54
there with an intention, like it
37:58
is a scheduled room. That's like
37:58
I mean, it's on my my Google
38:01
Calendar. And I know what's
38:01
happening, like, those are the
38:04
only ones that I really
38:04
participate in, because it's
38:06
something I care about. And
38:06
usually like, let's just be
38:08
honest, it's probably about
38:08
podcasting, or something to do
38:12
and the online marketing online
38:12
business space, because that's
38:15
what I'm interested in. And I'm
38:15
not just like, with Facebook, or
38:19
Instagram, I still find myself,
38:19
you know, I'll casually scroll
38:22
on there. I was like, Oh, I got
38:22
five minutes to kill, I'm
38:24
waiting on something, then I'll
38:24
open up those apps and do that.
38:27
But I don't typically do that
38:27
with clubhouse because I know,
38:30
it's kind of party like you
38:30
can't just casually walk into a
38:33
party where everybody's talking
38:33
and hanging out and like you
38:35
have to have the intention to
38:35
get it on your calendar go and
38:39
show up. At least that's how I
38:39
am y'all ever since I had kids.
38:41
I'm not spontaneous anymore. So
38:41
I don't spontaneously go to do
38:45
anything.
38:45  Unknown
What are we going to be
38:45
spontaneous with? There's a
38:48
random hand that's gonna pop up
38:48
in my video at any second,
38:52
right?
38:53  Krystal
You have to give an
38:53
explanation for this because you
38:56
just creeped a bunch of people
38:56
out. So tell tell everybody what
38:58
your zoom experience has been
38:58
like over the last year.
39:02  Unknown
So with my zoom
39:02
experience, my son especially
39:06
when we with the virtual
39:06
backgrounds, he likes to stand
39:10
beside me and then put his hand
39:10
into the camera so he could see
39:14
his and interrupting the virtual
39:14
background. And then I have to
39:18
explain to people like you
39:18
crystal carry and you know,
39:21
there's a hand coming at you.
39:21
And I'm like, yeah, it's just my
39:23
son. But but it's very hard to
39:23
be spontaneous when you have
39:28
kids and their schooling from
39:28
home and random calls for school
39:34
or a kidney to it's just very
39:34
hard. And so that is the
39:37
challenge with clubhouse I saw
39:37
the appeal that people were home
39:41
and needed to engage. But for us
39:41
that has a lot of things going
39:45
on out in the house already.
39:45
Yeah, clubhouse was just another
39:49
another distraction. It was one
39:49
more child to attend to with the
39:53
other. For sure that's so true.
39:58  Krystal
Oh my gosh, well I am
39:58
so grateful that we had the
40:02
opportunity to chat ladies like
40:02
this was so much. Do you think
40:06
I'll invite us back? I don't
40:06
know. I
40:09  Unknown
really embody Kevin
40:09
because I didn't talk a lot. I
40:12
was just listening and like,
40:12
Kevin doesn't talk a lot.
40:17
I did. I didn't talk about my
40:17
law school and marketing
40:20
background. Darn it. Y'all,
40:20
okay.
40:27  Krystal
So is this just a rose?
40:27
Like, are we just roasting the
40:31
guys now that with this last,
40:33  Unknown
we're just making
40:33
really sure they do not invite
40:35
us back? I have. We're probably
40:35
kicked off the team, we probably
40:38
won't have our logins to base
40:38
camp anymore.
40:41  Krystal
We're just burning the
40:41
bridges while we go. I mean, why
40:44
didn't why not just go down in
40:44
flames? Right. Oh, my gosh, this
40:47
is so good. Well, I hope that
40:47
everybody listening has had so
40:51
much fun with this new takeover
40:51
episode. I hope we get invited
40:54
back. I think that this was
40:54
fantastic. But it's fun for
40:57
everybody that's listening.
40:57
They're like, Oh my gosh, we
40:59
we'd love to hear about carians
40:59
community and the things that
41:02
she knows we love hearing about
41:02
Jordans, podcast, carrion, I
41:06
want you to go first, tell us a
41:06
little bit about your podcast,
41:09
and somewhere where people can
41:09
connect with you online.
41:13  Unknown
So my podcast is carry
41:13
on friends, the Caribbean
41:15
American podcast, and I talk
41:15
about the experience of being an
41:19
immigrant in the US from
41:19
Caribbean heritage. And you can
41:23
find me at carry on friends on
41:23
all platforms. Awesome.
41:27  Krystal
Awesome. What about
41:27
you, Jordan? Where can everybody
41:29
you tell us about your podcast,
41:29
what it's about and where people
41:32
can connect with you online?
41:34  Unknown
Yeah, my podcast is
41:34
dreamful. And it's bedtime
41:37
stories accompanied by ambient
41:37
music to make you fall asleep
41:41
before the episode is over. And
41:41
I can be found at dreamful
41:45
stories.com. This is so good.
41:45
And
41:49  Krystal
y'all will see us where
41:49
we all hang out in the Facebook
41:53
community. So if you are not a
41:53
part of the Buzzsprout Facebook
41:56
community, please go join us. We
41:56
have so much fun over there. And
42:01
I just I'm so grateful. Like
42:01
speaking of podcast communities,
42:05
I remember I joined the
42:05
community when it was less than
42:08
2000. People like you want to
42:08
talk about some of the original
42:11
people like it was less than
42:11
2000 people when I joined and
42:14
just to see this community of
42:14
people grow. It's been
42:17
incredible. It's where I got my
42:17
first questions about podcasting
42:20
answered. So y'all go join over
42:20
there. Come say hi. Like, tell
42:24
us tell us what you thought
42:24
about the episode. We would
42:26
absolutely love that. Because
42:26
only if it's nice, though,
42:31
right? Should we be invited
42:31
back? Like it's like, just tell
42:34
us we need the ladies to come
42:34
back or you're like no, like,
42:38
we're good, we're good. But I
42:38
have crystal profit if we have
42:41
not met and I teach
42:41
entrepreneurs how to start
42:44
launch and market their podcast
42:44
and you can find me on the
42:47
profit podcast which is my
42:47
weekly show and I would love for
42:50
you to reach out in the Facebook
42:50
group or connect with me on
42:53
Instagram at Crystal Prophet T
42:53
x. And I think that this was
42:58
good. I think I think we did a
42:58
good job ladies. So I'm going to
43:01
in this how Travis ends it every
43:01
single time and I'm going to say
43:05
thanks for tuning in. Hang on,
43:05
get get your faces up ladies.
43:08
Thanks for tuning in into
43:08
another episode of Buzzcast.
43:12
We'll catch you in the next one.
43:12
Keep podcasting