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episode 23: All About Cycling - Blazing Saddle Sore [transcript]



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 2021-06-13  45m
 
 
00:01  intro
You're listening to a mid
00:01
life less ordinary, the weekly
00:05
podcast giving you the lowdown
00:05
on becoming a cool older dude.
00:11
The good times are not afraid of
00:11
memory, it's time to start
00:15
loving them again. And here are
00:15
your hosts Wayne and Trev.
00:23  Wayne
Hello and thank you for
00:23
joining us on another journey
00:26
with a mid life less ordinary
00:26
and this episode is entitled all
00:30
about cycling, Blazing Saddles
00:30
saw and the person sharing my
00:34
tendon today is of course my
00:34
compadre Trev I am and have we
00:40
got a big saddle. Oh do yes. is
00:40
big enough
00:45  Unknown
to bring it up. That's
00:45
good because yeah, I don't want
00:49
to get saddled. So the saddle
00:49
sore is not good. No. Is it any
00:53
tips for saddle soreness?
00:53
Vaseline Petit chokes, I believe
01:00
Well, yeah.
01:01  Wayne
There's a true conception
01:01
that people on cycles where a
01:06
lot of lycra lycra is good it's
01:06
comfortable stretchy, stretchy,
01:10
cetera you chose that word and
01:10
think times changing turn around
01:14
touch the ground and all that.
01:14
But yeah, sorry, I forgot I'm 50
01:21
Yeah, I mean, I've got one of
01:21
your old bicycle trail bikes.
01:24
Yeah, I've got one mounted but
01:24
it wasn't was that the old it
01:27
was like it
01:28  Trev
was in good Nick is how to
01:28
use it. And I remember I think I
01:32
said that on I was a sucker for
01:32
all the safety things because I
01:37
didn't want to get run over so
01:37
take me longer to put all my
01:41
stuff on it would actually take
01:41
my bike out.
01:43  Wayne
Yes, I can believe that.
01:43
Yes. I usually like a social
01:46
worker guy to work so I destiny
01:46
oppression I got I mean, you
01:53
from what I remember you're
01:53
quite into that whole scene at
01:55
Mountain Bike sort of snow
01:55
balled in even though you didn't
01:58
do it, you
02:00  Trev
know all these gnarly,
02:00
gnarly lifestyle. Exactly. But
02:03
the weird thing is, I thought I
02:03
was gnarly. But I was too scared
02:07
to do a lot of
02:08  Wayne
No, and I can understand
02:08
that to be honest. Not because
02:11
you're a scaredy cat or
02:11
anything. I just mean like, it's
02:14
a scary world out there. But
02:14
yeah, I bought your bicycle. And
02:18
I remember when I bought your
02:18
bicycle, I thought I was really
02:21
serious. And I remember this is,
02:21
you know, in my single days, I
02:24
was I was speaking to somebody
02:24
online. He wasn't Eugene
02:27
polikoff. But I was talking
02:27
online and I remember saying no,
02:31
they were saying what you into
02:31
Notting Hill, you got to make
02:33
yourself look interesting. So
02:33
yeah, I'm riding a bike, which
02:35
is true. I was doing this wasn't
02:35
nice to ride along the seafront.
02:39
Did you used to ride it when I
02:39
used to live in Southend on sea
02:42
like yourself, you know, not
02:42
down the pub. There's a cycle
02:46
lane on South End. So for people
02:46
that don't know Southend on sea,
02:49
there's a cycle lane that goes
02:49
the whole seafront probably
02:52
about four miles? I don't know.
02:52
Exactly. And I lived near the
02:55
seafront. I used to love just
02:55
going up and down the seafront
02:57
in the sun nuber vest, you know,
02:57
getting a tan basically is
03:00
lovely lifestyle. No stop at the
03:00
pub on the way back and
03:04  Trev
most people take up
03:04
cycling to get healthy. And
03:09
you're and you're cycling at
03:09
about four or five pints. Yeah,
03:12
yes.
03:14  Wayne
But you know, I'm kind of
03:14
feel like I'm earning them by
03:17
doing the free mind trip. I
03:18  Unknown
don't get the equation
03:18
here. Because you'd probably
03:21
burn what how many calories
03:21
cycling?
03:24  Wayne
I'm not doing that many
03:24
to be honest. But I mean, yeah,
03:26
exactly. It's probably about 500
03:26
calories. And I'm drinking six
03:30
pints of Guinness, which is
03:30
about 1800 calories. Yeah, but I
03:34
was trying to bulk at the time.
03:34
But But yeah, that was tying to
03:38
this. I remember saying to
03:38
somebody on one of the dating
03:40
sites that has sadly frequented
03:40
at that time. Yeah, I'd like
03:44
cycling, you know, because that
03:44
sounds kind of keep fit. You get
03:48
out there and they said, you're
03:48
out there. And they said, Are
03:51
you a mammal? And I was like, it
03:51
was a memo, a mammal? And I said
03:55
no. And I said, What's that? And
03:55
I said a middle aged man in
03:59
light crowns. Yeah, not really.
03:59
I just wears like, cheap tacky
04:04
pea wear. But, you know, I
04:04
didn't like that term. So that's
04:08
obviously what he's told. That's
04:08
why I see cyclist. What do you
04:11
think?
04:12  Trev
I'd like people to
04:12
actually message us and say what
04:16
is acceptable for a middle aged
04:16
person to wear on a bicycle?
04:20  Wayne
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
04:20
It depends on
04:24  Trev
tracksuit bottoms and
04:24
trainers. And it used to be that
04:27
yeah, that's Yeah. That's cool.
04:27
But as you know, we were in
04:31
jeans because no comfortable is
04:31
it? No, but you don't want to be
04:35
like serious if you're not that
04:35
good it in like her and stuff.
04:39
What I think really, what if
04:39
it's a summer show because you
04:44
can wear shorts and I would have
04:44
thought the best pair of shorts
04:47
to wear would be like cargo.
04:49  Wayne
Yeah, that's exactly what
04:49
I used to wear. Can
04:53  Trev
you keep your wallet?
04:53
Still, and they're quite
04:56
comfortable on that? Yeah. So I
04:56
suppose that would be awesome.
05:00  Wayne
I mean, that's, that's my
05:00
experience of cycling a few
05:02
miles down the seafront. And to
05:02
be honest, I do admire but
05:05
they're saying, I've got such a
05:05
strange affliction. I don't like
05:10
to feel that I'm holding cars
05:10
up. And I'm going to mention
05:12
this to our guest today. Our
05:12
guest today, by the way, is Cole
05:15
Porter is a British cycling
05:15
qualified coach. And he's also
05:19
specialised in the mountain bike
05:19
coaching. He's also the chairman
05:22
of the Hadley mountain bike
05:22
club, and the Hadley mountain
05:24
bike club. Is the 2012 Olympic
05:24
legacy, basically, where the
05:29
Olympics mountain bikes were
05:29
held. Yeah, so yeah, Carl was
05:35
coming on. And I'll ask him
05:35
about this. But you know, when
05:37
I'm, I must admit, and I'm one
05:37
of these people, when I'm in my
05:41
car. And, you know, obviously I
05:41
live, I have to drive 10 miles
05:45
around the stakes, to get to any
05:45
kind of lifestyle game to like,
05:49
kickstart around the seat
05:49
pervious now in some sort of
05:54
scramble, but now I have to I
05:54
live in the stakes and driving
05:57
it, I have to drive 10 miles
05:57
before I can see any life. And
06:00
if I'm driving out and there's a
06:00
cyclic, they love these roads
06:03
that I live near and imagine and
06:03
they're there, it doesn't get on
06:07
my earth as a little bit when
06:07
they're standing right there.
06:10
And I can't get past and I'm
06:10
sort of sitting there and I'm
06:12
going to ask Carl about it, you
06:12
know, I'm guilty, I don't drive
06:15
up there, or give him space and
06:15
everything else like you should.
06:18
But it you know, I can
06:18
understand as a promoter as a
06:21
car driver, and that you see
06:21
both sides of it. I see both
06:27
sides of it, because I'm a mad
06:27
scientist as well. So,
06:29
obviously, you know, I see that
06:29
side of the vulnerability of
06:32
being on a bike as well. Yeah.
06:34  Trev
See, I don't when I was
06:34
cycling a lot, I used to kind of
06:40
hop off the road onto the
06:40
pavement. Awful. I would die. It
06:44
was just deadly. And no one
06:44
wants to see a grown man cycle
06:48
on the pavement pressed out
06:48
there they can is dangerous.
06:51
Yeah.
06:52  Wayne
But I think it's still
06:52
the best option for most of us
06:55
the way our eyes. lines are
06:55
important, I suppose, isn't it?
06:59
Yeah, I think that's the way
06:59
forward, isn't it? I mean,
07:01
they're doing it in London. I
07:01
mean, we can all moan about it.
07:04
They're cutting down the space
07:04
for the cars and everything else
07:07
in the pedestrians. But I think
07:07
you know, you go to Amsterdam,
07:10
for example, you would know this
07:10
trend that is cut. There's bikes
07:13
everywhere. Not talking about
07:13
the red light district. I think
07:16
we've got to go back next week.
07:16
But I think it's I think we will
07:24
ask all these questions, because
07:24
basically, we don't know enough
07:27
about cycling to pass it on to
07:27
you anyone. Exactly.
07:29  Trev
Yeah. So and I am
07:29
interested in what what you
07:32
could wear. But because you
07:32
know, if you were attracted to
07:35
bomb does that make you like a
07:35
chair on a bike?
07:38  Wayne
I don't know. This is why
07:38
I've got a lot of questions
07:40
about this. Because Cycling is
07:40
such a big pastime for a lot of
07:43
people as I find that there's a
07:43
lot to learn about it. So yeah,
07:48
I'm gonna call my my questions
07:48
into cow and see how we get on.
07:52
So with no further ado, we want
07:52
answers. Yeah, phase one and how
07:56
come and give us these answers
07:56
over to you, mate. Cow, thank
07:59
you for joining us today. You
07:59
are the chairman of the handily
08:04
mountain bike club. Is that
08:04
right?
08:06  Carl
It is indeed. Good
08:06
evening. Hello.
08:09  Wayne
Good evening. Welcome.
08:09
Welcome. And you are a coach, a
08:13
mountain or just a biking
08:13
cycling coach cow. Is that true?
08:17  Carl
I'm yeah, I'm level two
08:17
British cycling, qualified
08:21
cycling coach, but also with
08:21
specialism in mountain bike as
08:26
well.
08:27  Wayne
Okay, wow, that's
08:27
qualified. It's
08:32  Trev
gotten quite involved in
08:32
this in my early 20s call. I've
08:36
never known a coach to do it. I
08:36
think that's great. To be
08:39
honest. The idea did you start
08:39
the audit each day quite a few
08:43
of you guys around that do
08:43
around the country in that
08:46  Carl
there's quite a few around
08:46
the country is a lot of cycling
08:49
coaches. And you can actually
08:49
then once you've done your
08:52
qualification for cycling coach,
08:52
you can then pick a specialism.
08:58
You can do cyclocross, you could
08:58
do mountain biking, you could do
09:01
road cycling, road racing, and
09:01
sort of going in that direction.
09:08  Wayne
Yeah, brilliant. Not so
09:08
I'd love to have done it when I
09:11
was into it. I really want to
09:11
die. And and the Hadley mountain
09:15
bike club cow is the legacy from
09:15
the 2012 Uk Olympic little
09:20
London Olympics of new he was
09:20
the mountain bike and was held
09:23
in in Hadley where we're which
09:23
is about 40 miles from London,
09:27
isn't it?
09:28  Carl
Yes, it's about five miles
09:28
in South End and 45 miles in
09:33
London. And had your mountain
09:33
bike club was kind of born is
09:37
the latest thing from the
09:37
Olympics to actually get more
09:41
people into mountain biking and
09:41
out there cycling and younger
09:46
people back into mountain biking
09:46
as well as this sort of a lot
09:49
may have seen it from the area
09:49
and stuff and thought call tends
09:52
to go up there and sort of get
09:52
get them out there and actually
09:57
enjoying themselves in the fresh
09:57
air. Cool. Did you actually did
10:01
you watch the Olympics, your
10:01
club I didn't know it's funny
10:08
2012 I was kind of just the i
10:08
was i was psyching yourself but
10:12
didn't know about how the
10:12
mountain bike club and then I
10:17
found the club in 2014 Believe
10:17
it or not and then qualified as
10:24
a coach in 2017 when both my
10:24
kids decided to actually start
10:30
coming along and enjoying the
10:30
Nina's in the kids dolphin they
10:35
both ended up racing through it
10:35
and what have you as well so I
10:39
kind of ended up doing sessions
10:39
called go ride and just helping
10:44
out with those which was mini
10:44
coaching session simply because
10:49
it's gone now gone I just gonna
10:52  Wayne
say it's been a good
10:52
coach like you are level two is
10:56
that like a part time job or is
10:56
that like a vocation if you like
10:59
something you just love to do
10:59
and you do it for the love of it
11:01
basically,
11:02  Carl
I do it for the love of it
11:02
now To be honest, but there are
11:05
people out there that do it as a
11:05
full time job you can go up the
11:09
next level up income 50s whereas
11:09
level two is all about
11:14
techniques and stuff like that
11:14
level three income seat fitness
11:18
sessions and stuff like that
11:18
into it as well which is more
11:20
focused on sort of athletes as
11:20
it were rather than just people
11:25
that want to go out and learn
11:25
how to ride properly and
11:28
actually deal with this kind of
11:28
terrain the dating the local
11:32
Woods door trail seem to go
11:32
anywhere like that.
11:37  Trev
That's a bit odd because
11:37
I've got like a part time job
11:39
like that mark on a job on like
11:39
a kind of part time beard model.
11:48  Wayne
You are You are
11:48
infectious he No
11:56  Carl
no, no. You are a villain.
11:56
That's what
12:01  Trev
no one believes me. It's a
12:01
modelling job for me. You can
12:05
tell you can tell. Take it
12:05
further. Which is something
12:14
you've always been interested in
12:14
Charles, where did where did it
12:17
start for you?
12:19  Carl
psychiatry and I've always
12:19
written a blog when I was a kid.
12:24
Even even at the age of eight,
12:24
nine when the mom would be going
12:29
shopping other was being open I
12:29
bring my bike and I'd ride the
12:32
bike and disappear right off the
12:32
off the road and then turn
12:35
around the ride back to me mom
12:35
and what have you. And because
12:38
she didn't drive so we walked
12:38
everywhere and listen, unless it
12:40
was bustle trying to wear heavy
12:40
stuff. So then as I got older, I
12:46
used to live in North London
12:46
quite regularly summer holidays
12:51
and stuff like that. Me and my
12:51
best mate. It ended up
12:54
disappearing off on bikes into
12:54
the central London riding around
12:57
for the day or well. Jesse days
12:57
when when drivers didn't
13:06
actually want to kill every 30
13:06
on the road. Curious, would you
13:11
do that job call not I wouldn't
13:11
have done back in that day. But
13:16
I wouldn't now know. They take
13:16
their lives. You know, rains out
13:20
there didn't like that they also
13:20
ride like lunatics as well, that
13:24
helps the trouble with it. So
13:24
bear in mind.
13:28  Wayne
So actually, you say in
13:28
that car. I've got a test. It
13:33
led me to another question I was
13:33
thinking of, and it must be just
13:35
a reflection of me Really? I
13:35
don't like the reflection of me
13:38
before Trev says St. Mary's
13:38
Yeah, I've got no mirrors here.
13:43
But it's I was gonna ask like,
13:43
as a cyclist? What What would
13:47
you like to say to drivers? I
13:47
know you're a driver as well,
13:50
obviously. But what do you say
13:50
to drivers who basically
13:53
complain is the polite word
13:53
about cyclists. So holding them
13:56
up in the mornings on the
13:56
country roads, what do you say
13:58
to them people
14:00  Carl
come and go and stand on
14:00
the platform of the train
14:04
station. And you know what that
14:04
yellow line is on the platform?
14:09
Don't stand in front of that
14:09
when there's a train going
14:12
through. Yes, go insane Dini and
14:12
then see see how it feels when
14:16
that train goes through? Because
14:16
that's what it seems like when a
14:18
car go past you on a bike.
14:19  Trev
That's a great metaphor.
14:19
You're bang bang on their car
14:25
because that's exactly what it
14:25
feels like.
14:27  Wayne
Only because you don't
14:27
drive. Go stop having to go ask
14:30
drivers
14:39  Trev
call because I think
14:39
you're sort of similar age to
14:42
myself and why not? 21 Yeah,
14:42
yeah.
14:46  Wayne
Oh, here we go. Free
14:46
mumps. Free mumps he goes on
14:50
about it is is he some sort of
14:50
young vixen or something you
14:53
know.
14:55  Trev
I'm 45 and I'm still
14:55
young. Oh, you are? Yeah, yeah.
15:00
Do you want to pull this off
15:00
BMX? Boom, were you into that
15:04
kind of thing? Because a lot of
15:04
guys I knocked about with were
15:07
really into guys like Matt
15:07
Hoffman and stuff like that. It
15:10
was something you were into or
15:10
not. Yeah.
15:12  Carl
I kind of never really
15:12
took much notice of people
15:16
riding and stuff. But I went to
15:16
my first proper proper bike that
15:21
I was like, wow, was a really
15:21
super burner. Really? Yellow.
15:29
Gold. Gold. Yeah, gold and
15:29
black. But I was always a bit
15:35
disappointed because I want you
15:35
to run the mag burner, which was
15:38
this is a super burner, but with
15:38
the black mag wheels, he said,
15:42
spoked wheels.
15:44  Trev
You know, I really wanted
15:44
I really wanted a diamond back
15:47
or poach Mario,
15:48  Wayne
I had a pooch married.
15:48
Yeah. It was the only thing
15:53
you've probably heard call.
15:53
Trevor's had everything he's
15:56
ever wanted in life. He just got
15:56
it when he was a child. And I
15:59
didn't. I didn't because I got
15:59
ya. Brilliant. Okay, I'm just
16:05
shutting up. I can't be that.
16:05
I'm moving on. Yeah, so well. So
16:13
how would you encourage people
16:13
who wish to take Um, there's a
16:16
lot of people, we've been
16:16
encouraged now to take up
16:18
cycling as a nation, not let
16:18
alone just individuals, because
16:22
obviously the green aspect,
16:22
health aspect, exercise,
16:26
everything else? How would you
16:26
encourage people to get on a
16:28
bike and pedal basically,
16:31  Carl
if anybody if, if you rode
16:31
this bike as a kid, even now,
16:35
you'll still remember how to
16:35
ride a bike, you don't forget
16:38
how to ride a bike. Literally,
16:38
exactly. It's just like riding a
16:42
bike. But the best thing you can
16:42
do is even if you don't want to
16:47
go and do the local woods and
16:47
stuff like that, and get muddy
16:51
and dirty and just want to ride
16:51
on the road. Actually, one of my
16:56
friends from the from the
16:56
mountain bike club is actually a
16:59
cycling instructor that works
16:59
for the council. And you can
17:03
find the council get in touch
17:03
with them. And you can actually
17:06
get what is essentially a
17:06
cycling proficiency now, and
17:12
even as an adult, you can go out
17:12
with one of them as an
17:15
instructor, and they will help
17:15
you be more confident to ride on
17:20
the road, teach you about
17:20
positioning on the road. And
17:23
also so actually, there's as
17:23
well as me being a mountain bike
17:28
coach and a cycling coach.
17:28
Actually, there's people that
17:31
can help you do that. If you
17:31
only want me to go and ride
17:33
around the roads and go shopping
17:33
on your bike sort of thing.
17:36
You'll feel more confident.
17:38  Unknown
Those those cycling
17:38
proficiency tests. We used to
17:42
add those at school. Yeah, we
17:42
did. Yeah.
17:44  Carl
Yeah. Yeah, we did. Yeah,
17:44
yeah. It's called bikeability.
17:49
Now
17:50  Trev
about it's a bit more up
17:50
to date. Now they've gone down
17:54
to the rap
17:55  Wayne
generation is like,
17:55
What's his name? we bounced back
17:57
abilities. bikeability was his
17:57
name. It used to be the manager
18:01
of sorry, Crystal palette. I've
18:01
gone off on one but the manager
18:04
of crystal down in Delhi, he
18:04
said. He said yes. bikeability
18:10
Japanese here. Sorry. I'm sorry.
18:10
I'm going right off the coast
18:14
there. But he was he was Yeah.
18:14
He shouldn't have any mirrors in
18:19
his house. I know that. Yeah. It
18:19
definitely is more of a model
18:23
than me. I would have thought
18:23
trophies guarantee your head.
18:29
May you need to get your head
18:29
out of Vogue. Yes.
18:35  Trev
Call one. How many bikes
18:35
or do you own now? Oh, yeah.
18:42
Different bunch of road racing.
18:42
And, you know, the mountain
18:45
biking? What kind of thing Have
18:45
you got at the moment? My
18:48  Carl
my own personal
18:48
collection? I'll call it a
18:51
collection because the wife
18:51
would probably divorce me if I
18:55
bought another bike. You can
18:55
messages in life? Yeah. Yeah, I
19:02
said just got a bike that's a
19:02
bit of a pub bike that I could
19:07
just ride to the shops or
19:07
whatever that To be honest, for
19:10
the real, very rarely ride. I've
19:10
got a road bike. And I've also
19:16
got my mountain bike. But then
19:16
if you can also add on to that
19:20
the kids have got about a
19:20
mountain biking and the missus
19:24
got a mountain bike but it's
19:24
actually gathered up because she
19:27
doesn't ride the very often.
19:29  Wayne
She's too busy making up
19:29
for all the time you're outside
19:32
clean coal, too, so you get some
19:32
kudos points. Yes. That's why
19:39
you come in cold Don't worry.
19:42  Trev
called chill a dream bike
19:42
wise. When I was if there was a
19:46
match. If I was sitting in the
19:46
dentist's chair there was a
19:48
mountain bike magazine MTB used
19:48
to be the one I used to get a
19:52
mountain.
19:53  Carl
Okay, or Yes, it
19:56  Trev
used to be people are
19:56
still up in it. Shawn Palmer,
19:59
the downhill guide Yeah, if I
19:59
was to tell you the bike I
20:04
really wanted and I know they
20:04
were kind of always because I
20:08
come from a sort of a bit of a
20:08
skateboarding background as
20:10
well. crozes Yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:10
Was it I think Yeah, yeah. Are
20:18
they still was good now they
20:18
still
20:20  Carl
yeah they are sent a
20:20
cruiser amazing bikes you've
20:24
gotten the likes of Scott and
20:24
correct and stuff like that.
20:29  Trev
Actually down here. The
20:29
bikes I had when I was in my 20s
20:35
I had a white t is it Gary? Gary
20:35
Fisher as well guaranteed issue
20:42
as well Wow. Yeah. And again you
20:42
fish in the last fight I had
20:46
with wind blow off there was a
20:46
specialised right yeah. I've
20:52
ever been really into sort of
20:52
specialised because the downhill
20:55
guy Shawn Palmer used to write
20:55
for them. And remember he wrote
21:00
he wrote in his hand well
21:00
mountain bike championship and
21:03
he was my hero because he was
21:03
Sly and setia when he was
21:07
cycling the rest of him will
21:07
light it up and he had like a
21:11
sciency shell and I was like
21:11
that he's like
21:18  Carl
gone now he still only
21:18
more baggy stuff and stuff they
21:22
can move in whereas cross
21:22
country riding is what is which
21:25
is more or more has like had the
21:25
design there is still about sort
21:30
of the lycra for writing and
21:30
stuff like that
21:34  Wayne
Trevor's would be having
21:34
the boat everything he does he
21:40
just any other time he does it
21:42  Trev
go for a run or you know
21:42
kind of where normal kind of
21:46
running shops and I always have
21:46
a some form of like her on me
21:50
but underneath you
21:54  Unknown
Yeah, he just
22:00  Wayne
likes Flashdance too much
22:00
he just
22:04  Trev
the other day Don't go
22:04
there we go there we go. Okay,
22:08
cuz we done it because we did
22:08
that one in season one about the
22:11
video the nostalgic films I
22:11
couldn't help myself I don't
22:17
throw a bottle of water over
22:17
myself. Do isn't it? That's
22:22
right. Yeah, but yeah, like this
22:22
My thing I must admit.
22:26  Wayne
And I've been here we go
22:26
folks lessees admission, they
22:29
say like crazy thing. So the car
22:29
light cycle lanes and the future
22:38
of like, it's amazing. Now we
22:38
can go from like, be talking
22:43
about like, or to being serious
22:43
all of a sudden, and this is the
22:46
podcast. I've watched a Sunday
22:46
brunch. Sorry, going off Sunday
22:50
brunch, but they do something
22:50
similar with their technos sort
22:53
of kitchen dances. It just
22:53
happens in the middle of the
22:56
show. And then they just get on
22:56
with what they're doing. I think
22:58
that's kind of been born from
22:58
that but cycled a Sunday. Is
23:03
that cycle lanes in in London,
23:03
obviously, they're building a
23:06
superhighway of cycle lanes. And
23:06
obviously it'd be not. To be
23:10
honest, even as a layman, I'd
23:10
enjoy having cycle lanes because
23:13
I must admit I'm very conscious
23:13
of riding on the road and
23:16
holding people up so much so
23:16
that I'll go into the bushes
23:19
just to escape it. And that
23:19
sounds dreadful. Now I
23:27  Trev
believe a word fatal about
23:27
the bush. Hiding in the bush.
23:39
bushies Mike Michael in public
23:39
toy Oh
23:42  Wayne
my God, I really reach a
23:42
lower form of depravity in this
23:46
episode. Do you really? I'm
23:46
sorry, go. Yeah, I do apologise.
23:50
No, I literally made I'm just a
23:50
bit conscious of obviously
23:54
holding people up so the cycle
23:54
superhighways? They would do me
23:58
a favour, but they'd have to be
23:58
on all the country roads. To be
24:00
fair, do you think there's a
24:00
real future in them?
24:04  Carl
I think they live in towns
24:04
and cities. Certainly. It's
24:07
something that they're not like
24:07
our one on the seafront, because
24:10
that is a nightmare. But, you
24:10
know, in towns and cities,
24:14
certainly because, yeah, I mean,
24:14
genuinely, I'd have to recycle
24:18
anywhere. You know, rather than
24:18
take the tub most of the time,
24:22
unless he's chucking it down
24:22
with rain, and I'm not actually
24:25
going in the European wherever,
24:25
right? fair weather, etc. It's a
24:32
barrel getting muddy and going
24:32
out. And I'm happy with that. If
24:36
I've only got to go somewhere.
24:36
I'd rather get in the car, and
24:39
then turn up so
24:41  Wayne
yeah, that makes sense.
24:41
Until kind of getting soaked.
24:44
You're hopefully gonna get
24:44
soaked in champagne after taking
24:47
part in this next part of the
24:47
podcast call because we've got a
24:51
little surprise for you. As you
24:51
know, in season one, it was test
24:54
drive. And in season two, we
24:54
have this segment called test
24:58
the guest and then I'll just
24:58
wait If you'd like to go up
25:00
against Trev in a couple of
25:00
questions about cycling, would
25:04
you be interested? It will be a
25:04
yellow jersey. You will be at
25:09
the end of this. Yeah. A very
25:09
cheap tight yellow jersey. Yeah.
25:19
See him going through his
25:19
drawers now looking for it.
25:23
Yeah. So this is what we call
25:23
the test the guests segment.
25:27
Test Case, test, test case, test
25:27
case. Lovely. So, yeah, just a
25:39
bit of fun call. I'll go to you
25:39
first. And now go to Trev always
25:43
goes first guest guest always
25:43
goes first and no pressure, no
25:48
pressure. I mean, we don't
25:48
expect the guest and they don't
25:51
always get them right. Because I
25:51
just pulled these from anywhere.
25:54
Obviously, these questions and
25:54
he's not listening. No, I mean,
25:58
it does take me it takes me half
25:58
hour of my time. You know,
26:01
that's got to be at work. You
26:01
know, it's what we wear
26:04
something so that it's just a
26:04
bit of fun. So, question one,
26:09
two, you call in what year of
26:09
the Tour de France? Was Chris
26:13
Froome forced to run up Mont
26:13
Venter? I wish. I wish I wasn't
26:18
expected to talk French in this
26:18
month's vendu venti sorry, you
26:24
know this. I know. After after a
26:24
crash. Was it a 2013? b 2017.
26:32
See 2016 or de 2015?
26:37  Carl
Oh, I would say 2017.
26:46  Wayne
It was close. It was
26:46
close, but not good enough. He
26:48
was. I mean, that's a hard one.
26:48
Because all the years are very
26:51
close. It was actually do you
26:51
remember this? Obviously from
26:54
what you're saying? I
26:54  Carl
do. Yeah, I remember it. I
26:54
remember.
26:57  Wayne
I remember the crash
26:57
actually. That was made news,
26:59
didn't it? Yesterday. Yeah. It
26:59
was 2016 that was actually Oh,
27:07
close. It wasn't easy, but
27:10  Unknown
yeah, you might wind in
27:10
like a mug because you couldn't
27:13
pronounce that man. Yeah,
27:14  Wayne
okay. Okay. You can ask
27:14
my question to where he's a
27:23
junior carbolic have right now
27:23
if you're going to give me this
27:26
sort of stuff. I'm going to make
27:26
it awkward for you. Where is a
27:29
worry? Yeah, it'd be back. Yeah.
27:29
Okay. Right. The question to to
27:33
you drove. What single rider has
27:33
won the most stages at the Tour
27:38
de France? Is it a Mark
27:38
Cavendish be? Eddie mercs see
27:45
Chris Froome. Oh, here we go. Or
27:45
D Marios Kip n le or siprnet
27:51
cipollini. Simply the old fish.
27:51
Best of British Mark Cavendish
28:03
Eddie Merckx, Chris Froome, or
28:03
Marios cipollini I
28:07  Trev
haven't got a clue. And
28:07
the only reason I'm gonna go
28:10
with Eddie mercs cousin at dow.
28:15  Wayne
No, this can't happen.
28:15
No. No, no. No. To quickly
28:28
moving on to number free call,
28:28
please. Oh, no, I'm sorry.
28:34
Sorry. Sorry. I didn't I didn't
28:34
as you can imagine. I don't want
28:37
to have to get any right. It's a
28:37
nightmare when it happens.
28:40
Number three, Carl, what
28:40
percentage of commutes are made
28:43
by bicycle in Amsterdam? Is it a
28:43
15%? b 90%. c 40%. Or d 20%.
28:54
That's not easy is it gotta be
28:54
gotta be 90% over 90. Really?
28:59
Like dude. Yes. Wow, that's that
28:59
would be like, I don't want to
29:04
do this too cold. It makes it
29:04
sound I've made and then now I
29:11
says I've loaded especially as
29:11
you knew the SEC, I wish I'd
29:13
done it the other way around.
29:13
But he said I mean, to be
29:15
honest. Again. That's not an
29:15
easy question. Because when I go
29:18
to Amsterdam, all I see is bikes
29:18
everyone sees bikes. Yeah, but I
29:24
was gonna say I'm not in that
29:24
part of the town tray. If that's
29:29
true if that's your I don't even
29:29
know what you're talking about.
29:41
But he was saying 40% which I
29:41
still think he's very high
29:44
obviously.
29:45  Carl
Yeah, I would I would you
29:45
agree Not likely. Yeah,
29:50  Wayne
exactly. But it is Yeah,
29:50
he is a very hope that we had
29:55
that way soon. I just hope he's
29:55
gonna get this one. I'm going to
29:59
change questions around, I'm
29:59
going to change I'm gonna change
30:03
cuz I know he's gonna get I'm
30:03
gonna change the questions
30:07
around. So there's obviously if
30:07
I can get it car or get it. Now
30:12
that's what I'm saying that's
30:12
what I'm changing the question
30:14
because you're going to get the
30:14
next one. And I just realised
30:18
looking at that, I think you'll
30:18
get that but it was for a
30:20
specific reason. There's nothing
30:20
to do with cycling, but I know
30:23
you'll get it. I just know
30:23
because I know you. I know
30:27
you'll get it. So I'm going to
30:27
ask you a different question,
30:28
which I'm hope I've got one in
30:28
four chance that you get right
30:32
and hopefully you'll get it. Not
30:32
that I wish you any malice
30:35
obviously. Question.
30:38  Trev
No
30:38  Wayne
question five. Maryann
30:38
Voss is one of the most
30:42
successful cyclists in history
30:42
with two Olympic gold medals,
30:46
which he did she win her first
30:46
Olympic gold medal. Was it a
30:51
2016? Rio? b 2008. Beijing? See?
30:51
2012 London or de 2000? Sydney?
31:03
I is a bloke Yeah, I would
31:03
recognise this woman if a bike
31:11
curated into me as far as
31:11
crossing the street. Oh, no.
31:21
This has never happened. It's
31:21
actually been ruined. Test
31:26
Trevor test. The guest has been
31:26
ruined by Trevor. Whereby yellow
31:31
jersey with his knowledge of
31:31
cycling. That's Jeremy is just
31:36
in full. On I tried to fix it.
31:36
He and I still couldn't get it
31:40
right. Oh, dear. I'm so sorry,
31:40
Carl, this has never happened
31:44
before. This is a first we'll
31:44
learn from our mistakes here.
31:49
We'll just we'll just have
31:49
questions moving forward. They
31:51
don't actually have an answer.
31:51
But unfortunately, I've still
31:55
got to go to question four,
31:55
which was the one I was going to
31:58
ask Trev which I'm sure you'll
31:58
get right but who first invented
32:03
tires use an inflatable tube of
32:03
sheet rubber, which led to the
32:07
production of safety bike with
32:07
his pneumatic tires. Was it john
32:12
Kemp starley b john Boyd Dunlop.
32:12
C Thomas Edison. Or D.
32:19
Kirkpatrick. McMillan. It was
32:19
Mr. Dunlop. Hey. Well, oops, I
32:28
got two claps for that because I
32:28
feel so bad. Would you record
32:31
that trip? Y'all would have
32:31
guessed it. I know. You would.
32:35
That's why, you know, I
32:36  Trev
was talking about puncture
32:36
repair kits, right? Well, man
32:39
didn't my dad didn't drive
32:39
right. So he cycled to work
32:42
every morning. And I tell you,
32:42
what, is the heaviest bike Yeah,
32:48
this old on such as what it was
32:48
it was an old Warhawks bike. And
32:53
he had a puncture repair kit on
32:53
it that he had forever. And it
32:57
was a nice little tinge. Do you
32:57
remember these call the little
33:00
Tim's? Yeah. Yeah, he's the
33:00
glue. He has sat on it. And I'll
33:06
tell you what, he would never go
33:06
anywhere without that puncture
33:08
repair kit. You know, now you've
33:08
got bicycle repairman, and Monty
33:12
Python.
33:19
He used to remember because I
33:19
used to cycle to work then. And
33:23
I think I was on my Trek. And I
33:23
caught him at the top of one of
33:29
our roads coming home once
33:29
riding home. And I've raced him,
33:34
right because we saw each other
33:34
I come on in, come on away Go.
33:38
And I was in my early 20s. And
33:38
he kept up with me. I thought
33:43
maybe I was a bit of a fat lump
33:43
thing. But he kept up with and
33:47
when we got to our house, we
33:47
both put our bikes down and
33:51
we're laughing and joking about
33:51
it. And he I think he went into
33:55
a lot of a peddler or something.
33:55
So I put the bikes away. And
34:00
honestly, I found out my dad's
34:00
bike was not the weight of a
34:04
tank. And he still kept up with
34:04
me. Must have been all that
34:10
power. Cycling Yes, definitely.
34:10
train car.
34:18  Carl
I used to, I don't use
34:18
when I was racing. I mean, I
34:22
have obviously been pandemic. We
34:22
haven't raced a good year in a
34:26
bit. But I used to kind of not
34:26
train but made sure I'm involved
34:30
in at least two or three times a
34:30
week if I was sort of during the
34:33
season of racing. And I was
34:33
never really fast and I was
34:37
always at the back. But actually
34:37
it was more about going out and
34:40
enjoying it and having a bit of
34:40
grassroots racing. You know,
34:47  Trev
probably one of the most
34:47
important things that we should
34:49
ask you really cold to encourage
34:49
people to get back into cycling
34:55
because you know, I I'd like to
34:55
get back into even I've just
34:59
sold by bike, but I was quite a
34:59
soft safety conscious when I
35:03
used to cycle back and forward
35:03
to work so I always wear a
35:06
condom is one way of keeping
35:06
dry? Yeah, yes true. Pregnant
35:18
either on the wire well the
35:18
funny thing is, he should take
35:24
me as long to put all my gear on
35:24
that he did to actually get to
35:29
work. And if so I was going to
35:29
take cycling up again, Carl,
35:34
what would what would you say
35:34
the best sort of what do you
35:37
need safety equipment wise
35:37
obviously lights.
35:40  Carl
If you're if you're riding
35:40
on the road and stuff
35:44
realistically, you want a pair
35:44
of lights, the road riding you
35:48
want life to be sees Where is
35:48
mountain biking, you tend to
35:52
have lights to sit and if that
35:52
makes sense, because you tend to
35:56
go off into the woods and stuff
35:56
even at night. So you want I
35:59
mean, the lights I've got on my
35:59
bike, I've got one that goes on
36:02
the helmet, and one that goes on
36:02
the handlebars. And actually,
36:05
they're nice. They're almost as
36:05
bright as a car headlight
36:07
between them. Wow, really? I can
36:07
actually yeah, I can actually
36:12
see really well going through
36:12
the woods and stuff survived in
36:15
the bushes with the fine wine in
36:15
the
36:20  Wayne
encouraging place you
36:24  Carl
know to go out and ride
36:24
just sort of commute and stuff
36:28
like that. You want to help me
36:28
fish your you know, anyone that
36:31
rides without one is a bit of a
36:31
warrior. I've seen any, even my
36:37
kids now look at people when
36:37
they're riding along without one
36:40
and go. Look, I like invisible
36:40
helmet.
36:44  Unknown
Yeah, we like that. So
36:45  Carl
we're talking, you know?
36:45
So yeah, I
36:50
mean, the cars actually, if you
36:50
do come off your bike for any
37:00
reason, generally the first
37:00
thing that's going down on the
37:03
floor is your hands. Yeah, yes.
37:03
So with a pair of gloves on,
37:07
you're not going to rip your
37:07
hands to shreds. This is true.
37:11  Trev
I've still got kind of
37:11
pairs of gloves I used to have
37:15
back in the day because
37:15
obviously I I think I've got a
37:19
pair of Fox ones. And a pair
37:19
Charlie designs over a big mic
37:23
when I was into it.
37:24  Carl
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well,
37:24
I've got three lead designs,
37:27
mountain bike knee pads, and
37:27
elbow pads.
37:30  Wayne
Really? Yeah, yes. bikers
37:30
jackets as well there. Yeah.
37:35
Trips trying to sell all this
37:35
stuff.
37:42  Trev
I don't know. I'm sure.
37:42
The Troy Lee designs came from a
37:46
company that sprayed helmets. Is
37:46
that true? as well, isn't it?
37:51  Carl
I'm not sure but I think
37:51
you're right. Yeah.
37:54  Trev
I think helmets in and
37:54
stuff. Yes. But yeah, this stuff
38:00
was funky as hell it was really
38:00
I went a bike crow by 2002 or
38:07
something. The the ADC I think.
38:07
And yes, it was. It was a really
38:14
weird experience because camel
38:14
backs I think had just come out
38:18
you know? No account. Bakkies?
38:18
Yes Yeah, yeah, we were walking
38:23
around this like, Big Conference
38:23
Centre and it was like there was
38:29
drinks that you could buy but
38:29
there was loads of people
38:32
walking very cavil backs on suck
38:32
it out of them. Shoulder Yes,
38:38
exactly. Yeah, yeah. Why is why
38:38
he's confused. He doesn't know
38:42
what Camelback is this
38:45  Wayne
thing with women's
38:45
trousers in it is like what kind
38:49
of education
38:50  Carl
What is that about? Yeah.
38:50
Down to the gutter
38:55  Wayne
what she's just getting
38:55
revenge for all the other
39:04
episodes sorry call for him. I
39:04
do apologise. So to summarise So
39:12
being a coach yourself, can we
39:12
we're going to put some links up
39:15
on the website and obviously for
39:15
will do it for your own club. If
39:18
If obviously, you're looking for
39:18
new members, which I'm sure you
39:21
are. Always Yeah, brilliant. And
39:21
obviously being a co worker, is
39:26
there a kind of UK National
39:26
Association for for cycling or
39:30
mountain biking, whichever one
39:30
that people want to take part
39:34
of.
39:35  Carl
They're really you've got
39:35
the British cycling website,
39:38
which is www dot British
39:38
cycling.co.uk. And you can go on
39:43
there and find clubs and rides
39:43
and races and coaches and all
39:48
sorts. And then you've got
39:48
obviously ourselves had the
39:51
mountain bike Club, which you
39:51
can find on facebook.com forward
39:55
slash heavy mountain bike club.
39:56  Wayne
That's brilliant. I'll
39:56
put we're putting something on
39:59
to the website car Thank you
39:59
very, very much for your input
40:02
today and for putting up with
40:02
Trev. I know it's difficult, but
40:05
you've done everything. Carl,
40:05
you've you've, you've taken me
40:08
back to when I was called in.
40:08
Yeah, that was a long time ago.
40:11
But he's made me think about
40:11
kind of getting another bike to
40:17
be Oh, here we go.
40:22  Carl
Yeah, by Craven LTV, some
40:22
coaches.
40:28  Wayne
That's very kind of you
40:28
call. Brilliant. Thank you so
40:31
much for joining us today cow.
40:31
It's been a pleasure. Thank you.
40:35  Carl
Thanks, girl. Bye bye.
40:38  Wayne
So now Trev I'm fully
40:38
expecting you to be doing the
40:40
old craft workshop on Tour de
40:40
France. From breakdance and
40:45
Electric Boogaloo Yeah, I fully
40:45
expected you to come back in
40:49
real really in the mood for your
40:49
bike you know? I mean everyone's
40:51
had a bike at some point in
40:51
their life and they but sorry, I
40:58
can I can tell where
41:00  Trev
I only the places that we
41:00
hung about and drug here. Sorry.
41:05  Wayne
I mean, but everyone what
41:05
I mean is is that we all learn
41:07
to ride a bike at some point
41:07
what what to what level is
41:10
different, obviously. But
41:11  Trev
yeah, yeah, again, I can
41:11
see how people can get really
41:14
into it. And to be honest, as
41:14
Carl said, like cycling for
41:22
fitness and stuff is amazing,
41:22
isn't it? Yeah. You know, you
41:25
really do benefit from it.
41:28  Wayne
The old em exhaust fumes
41:28
blow right into your mouth as he
41:31
goes
41:32  Trev
right along. Yes, very
41:32
true. Very true. But that's the
41:36
good thing about Asarco lines
41:36
see that again we the cycle
41:38
lines thing is great, but as a
41:38
kind of very minimal runner. If
41:43
I see a lie cycle line line, I
41:43
seem to think that it's a
41:46
running line as well. Which is
41:46
ridiculous. Is it? What do I
41:49
see? I do every time I go every
41:49
time I'm running. I see a soccer
41:53
line. I think that's where I
41:53
should be. We should is running
41:57
because that's dangerous. It
41:57
should Oh, but how right how
42:00
wide was the road be? You'd have
42:00
a car right? You'd have a car
42:03
line. A cycling lane a running
42:03
line?
42:06  Wayne
Yes. It's true. How many
42:06
ladies do you want? It's true.
42:10
It's not okay for everyone in
42:10
here but you have gone okay if
42:12
what can we just I mean yeah,
42:12
yeah, the philosophy of road
42:15
network I think we leave for a
42:15
different podcast Yeah, it's
42:20
there's lots of white Yeah,
42:20
YouTube is true there should be
42:21
room for everyone but I say I
42:21
don't think I'm I really respect
42:25
cyclists. So now I've got a lot
42:25
of time for the fitness part of
42:28
it. I can see you know what good
42:28
he does you and the kind of view
42:31
you can get some way they I
42:31
mean, most of them I noticed
42:34
from driving along naturally
42:34
following him they're doing
42:36
about 30 miles an hour they
42:37  Trev
don't hang up on a flight
42:37
Yeah, I really do here really if
42:41
you're really good day, they are
42:41
just like I mean this is faster
42:44
the speed limit and they get up
42:44
so early that night to go up as
42:49
well. Yeah, exactly. It's just
42:49
it's like you get you think wolf
42:53
Hold on. Yeah. Really?
42:56  Wayne
Don't think nothing of
42:56
doing 60 miles I mean our drive
42:58
60 miles knackered you know it
42:58
This is it. Yeah. Isn't it is so
43:04
you've got total respect for it.
43:04
So you know, there's all the
43:06
information you need on maybe
43:06
been a born again one or or
43:09
start in cycling. You can have a
43:09
coach that coach is a coach. All
43:13
the information
43:14  Trev
that I like about that is
43:14
the confidence that would give
43:18
you because I must admit if I
43:18
got back on a on a bike now. I'd
43:23
be quite worried about the
43:23
safety side of it. Yes. Very
43:27
much sighs Harry green off. QVC
43:30  Wayne
Do you remember him?
43:30
Safety first DIY saying Oh,
43:33
sorry. No, I don't know where
43:33
that come from. Sorry. I'm going
43:36
off Neil Armstrong. Harry. Harry
43:36
green. Sorry. Yeah. All the all
43:40
these household names that you
43:40
mentioned here. Yeah, that would
43:46
so getting getting a coach to
43:46
give you that confidence to get
43:50
back. Yeah, cuz it's I when I
43:50
was young and cycled I was
43:57
terrible for like, jumping on
43:57
the pavement jumping off the
44:00
pavement to avoid traffic
44:00
lights. Awful. Yeah, do you mean
44:05
a pedestrians nightmare. And car
44:05
drivers nightmare. I would just
44:10
be kind of jumping all over the
44:10
place. I thought I was that guy.
44:13
And you maybe you should get
44:13
those kind of gnarly careers
44:20
like that. You're just a lot
44:20
fatter. You're so self aware. So
44:27
thank you for that. Yeah,
44:27
cheers. But I already think cuz
44:31
I cycled at a time now. That's
44:31
true. Yeah, it does a very big
44:34
fitness but Oh yeah. It will
44:34
leave all the links to all the
44:37
associations in the show notes.
44:37
We hope you join in inspired you
44:41
maybe to think about taking
44:41
upcycling, as always we have all
44:45
these hobbies that we're
44:45
showcasing at the moment. You
44:48
may be you know if you're lucky,
44:48
you may see us in on the road on
44:52
our bikes in a vest. If I can
44:52
talk to having to wear a vest
44:57
that is but
44:58  Unknown
yeah, it doesn't very
44:58
often but in No, no, no. You
45:02
know, moves, moves.
45:03  Wayne
Yeah, you know, I'll be
45:03
hanging out, put them on
45:06
display. It's all good. But so
45:06
yeah, we'll put all the links
45:12
on, please. When was c one, or C
45:12
or six one. C they say that
45:19
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