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episode 37: Trusting yourself. Tim's story on walking out of hell from Long Haulers. [transcript]


On Febuary 17th of this year Tim started getting chronic headaches, dizziness, and no energy. He knew something was off. Little did he know he would be in this same painful state for the next three months with the diagnoses of Long Haulers, people living with post-COVID syndrome. Tim has been in hell, but through trusting his self, advocating for himself, and having his community rally around him, he is finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. Tim has an inspiring message he wants to share with the world.
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 2021-06-15  1h26m
 
 
00:00  Tim
I'm still walking out of
00:00
hell, but I know what direction
00:04
I'm, I'm walking now. And I know
00:04
I'm not gonna stop regardless of
00:08
what happens at this point. And
00:08
like I said, in our last
00:11
episode, I'm gonna vote. I'm
00:11
taking care of my life. Welcome
00:16
to the bright side of life, a
00:16
podcast where people share their
00:19
personal stories of struggles,
00:19
pain and grief. But through all
00:23
of that, they are still able to
00:23
find the joys in life.
00:47  Melissa Bright
Hello, everyone,
00:47
and welcome to this week's
00:49
episode of the bright side of
00:49
life. I am your host, Melissa
00:53
Bright. And today, we have a
00:53
very, very, very exciting
00:57
episode. We have brought back
00:57
Tim Husserl for his second
01:02
episode. And he was the most
01:02
downloaded episode that I have
01:07
had on my podcast with almost
01:07
500 people listening to his last
01:12
episode. So this is a little bit
01:12
of a different story. His last
01:17
story was his The title was kind
01:17
of like a mind shift where Tim
01:22
where he came from to where he
01:22
started kind of with his real
01:25
estate business, but then also
01:25
how he had to change his
01:28
mindset. But within the past
01:28
couple months, Tim has
01:33
unfortunately been diagnosed
01:33
with long haulers, which would
01:38
which is a post COVID. How do
01:38
you explain that post COVID
01:44
something or another. But it's
01:44
been a long journey, even for
01:49
these past three months. And he
01:49
literally has been through hell
01:54
still kind of in hell getting
01:54
better. And we just have a long,
01:58
long story to talk about
01:58
everything that's been been
02:01
going on, because it's been
02:01
quite a story. So Tim, I'm so
02:05
happy you're here again, to
02:05
share yet another story. I think
02:10
I'm happy. I mean, I'm happy to
02:10
talk to you. But I wish it could
02:13
be on on a different story
02:13
topic. But yeah, some. Oh, no.
02:20
It's crazy. Okay, so let's just
02:20
bring it back. Now, Tim, his
02:26
episode him and I did an episode
02:26
back in February, I think it was
02:30
February 2 was when his last
02:30
episode released. And it's
02:34
Episode 21. If you want to go
02:34
back and check it out, it's all
02:37
about mind shift and all these
02:37
wonderful things super inspiring
02:40
episode. And then I get a
02:40
message from Tim on March 3
02:46
saying, Hey, who do you do
02:46
therapy through, so on and so
02:51
forth. And I said, Oh, is
02:51
everything okay? And he said,
02:55
something is off with me.
02:55
Something's going on with my
02:59
hormones. Something's just not
02:59
right. And so, you know, I gave
03:03
him some information. But that
03:03
is kind of what how I came. It
03:08
kind of sparked everything. And
03:08
that's kind of when stuff
03:12
started happening for Tim. So
03:12
Tim, kind of right around that
03:16
time of whatever the timeframe
03:16
end of February, whatever what
03:20
started happening to you,
03:20
physically and mentally, if you
03:24
can go into that.
03:26  Tim
Yeah, so it all started.
03:26
February 17. I was taking my
03:33
daughter Haley out for a daddy
03:33
daughter date, which I do on
03:36
Fridays. And I went to pick up t
03:36
shirts from my T shirt lady
03:39
Angie, and having a
03:39
conversation. And I just got hit
03:44
like it was like a light switch
03:44
just got hit with something. I'm
03:47
like, what was that just in the
03:47
middle of a nice easy
03:49
conversation and had a chronic
03:49
headache immediately. And I was
03:54
dizzy. Was was what I noticed at
03:54
first. So I go to take my
04:00
daughter out. I'm like, hey, do
04:00
you care if we had home night,
04:03
I'm not feeling real good. And
04:03
she's like, we'll do it another
04:06
night. So I went to her
04:06
basketball game The next day out
04:11
in Rolla. And driving out there
04:11
at my just head was hurting, was
04:15
dizzy, really tired. So I drank
04:15
an energy drink, which are bad
04:20
for you anyway, but so I take
04:20
one of those to get some energy
04:24
and I'm sitting at her game. And
04:24
I can barely keep my head up.
04:27
Like I have no energy. I'm
04:27
dizzy. I couldn't watch the kids
04:30
play. I'm like, man, something.
04:30
Something's wrong, like
04:34
something's off and I don't and
04:34
I'm an athlete, or train myself
04:39
like an athlete. So I know
04:39
something severely wrong, right?
04:44
And that's why I was hormones.
04:44
I'm like, maybe I overtrained.
04:47
Maybe I'm not eating something
04:47
properly. And then so I went
04:52
through rest and relaxation,
04:52
which is hard for me to do. For
04:56
a couple weeks until I finally
04:56
reached out to you. I'm like,
04:58
nothing's getting better. I need
04:58
to someone.
05:03  Melissa Bright
Right? Who do
05:03
you think? So then I started
05:08
talking to someone, I'm sorry,
05:08
do you have some? Well, I was in
05:11
terms of like the mental. So
05:11
what did it do to you like
05:15
mentally for those three weeks?
05:15
Because obviously, and I'm kind
05:18
of the same way, cuz once the
05:18
physical stuff starts happening,
05:22
then the mental stuff is just
05:22
easy to follow. You're like,
05:25
what the hell is going on? So
05:25
what? How are you feeling those
05:28
first, like couple weeks? And
05:28
then you reached out to me?
05:31
Because I mean, your first
05:31
question was a therapist, so
05:34
you, obviously was somewhere bad
05:34
mentally are not in a good
05:38
place.
05:39  Tim
I was scared, I was
05:39
terrified. I'm used to going 100
05:44
miles an hour, I'm on a very
05:44
good schedule. I like my
05:47
schedule. And I couldn't
05:47
maintain any of it. And I just I
05:52
didn't have answers for what I
05:52
was going through for myself.
05:57
Went to the I think one doctor
05:57
before I talked to you, and
06:01
she's like, oh, you're
06:01
depressed? Very simple to see.
06:04
And I'm like, no, no. What do
06:04
you mean? It's simple, like, I
06:08
don't feel good. Like, I'm not
06:08
having bad feelings about
06:11
myself. I don't feel good. And
06:11
it has me questioning what's
06:15
going on. So that was the first
06:15
diagnosis. And so then I'm like,
06:20
maybe if I talk to someone,
06:20
they'll be able to say, Hey, I'm
06:23
looking at you from the outside.
06:23
Here's what's going on. Talk to
06:30
people, and they weren't a good
06:30
fit for me. The first guy shows
06:37
up to our zoom meeting. 10
06:37
minutes later, he's still laying
06:39
in his bed. He's like, sorry, I
06:39
just woke up. And I'm like, this
06:42
isn't gonna work. Like I'm going
06:42
through some. Yeah. I have a
06:46
really good guy that I talk to
06:46
you now. But yeah, he was. He
06:50
was really nice to talk to just
06:50
chilled and laid back. He's
06:53
like, sorry, I just, you know, I
06:53
slept in. I'm like, he sounds
06:56
chilled and laid back. He was in
06:56
his damn bed. From a bowl of
07:02
cereal or something.
07:04  Melissa Bright
Oh, my God.
07:04
Okay, so you were talking? And
07:08
were these therapists? Who were
07:08
these people that you were that
07:12
you were talking to at this
07:12
point? Or what were they
07:14
considered? Just, that's that's
07:14
who the most talking to at
07:18
first? Okay, gotcha, gotcha. So
07:18
then you reach out to me, I tell
07:23
you, whatever, and then continue
07:23
to where you're where you're
07:28
going with this story?
07:30  Tim
Yeah. So first doctor says
07:30
antidepressants. I knew that's
07:38
what it was. It wasn't that. So
07:38
I go see another doctor in that
07:42
office. And they said, they said
07:42
the same thing. They're like,
07:47
you know, we checked our your
07:47
vitals, your, your air is
07:49
reading good. Your air is
07:49
reading good. your vitals are
07:55
all good. They couldn't they
07:55
couldn't find anything wrong. So
08:02
this is this has to be what it
08:02
is. And so this is a second
08:06
person that gave me an
08:06
antidepressant. I'm like, I
08:09
still know this, isn't it?
08:11  Melissa Bright
Did you? Did you
08:11
take them? Like, did you get the
08:14
prescription? Or were you just
08:14
like, yeah, that's not gonna
08:17
work.
08:17  Tim
The first two, I did not
08:17
get prescriptions. Yeah. So then
08:23
then I go to the hospital,
08:23
because the headaches were so
08:26
bad. And they were all centrally
08:26
located in the center my
08:31
forehead. It was like somebody
08:31
was taking a knife and just
08:34
twisting it. And the time I woke
08:34
up, I'd say within 10 minutes of
08:38
waking up at the time I went to
08:38
bed, somebody just taking a nap
08:40
and doing this. And it's just
08:40
awful. So I forgot who said I
08:45
might have a blood clot or
08:45
something. So I'm like, let's go
08:48
to the hospital. find that out.
08:48
Right? I go to the hospital.
08:52
They give me Lorazepam and
08:52
something for a headache
08:56
Lorazepam for anxiety. And after
08:56
10 or 15 minutes, I felt great.
09:02
I'm like huh you know the
09:02
headaches died down and went
09:05
from like an eight to like a
09:05
three I feel good. So we go back
09:09
home, and the headaches just
09:09
don't get any better. I don't
09:14
know what's going on. And so
09:14
summer calls the doctor the
09:19
hospital ER and she looks up at
09:19
the hospital what they gave me
09:23
at the hospital and we found out
09:23
it was the Raza bam. I'm like I
09:27
don't want to take an anxiety
09:27
medication I'm this is an
09:30
anxiety I don't want to Band Aid
09:30
this with that, right. So then I
09:37
go to the hospital again,
09:37
because the headaches were bad
09:39
and the breathing was starting
09:39
to get worse not my breathing
09:44
starting to get worse. And I got
09:44
a pre prefix this with my
09:48
breathing was so good. I trained
09:48
with an oxygen mask, so I
09:51
wouldn't have known it was
09:51
breathing right away, because
09:54
I'll run on a marathon just to
09:54
run one. You know, that's so I
09:58
didn't recognize that it was
09:58
getting worse and worse. Until I
10:02
didn't realize that was the
10:02
initial problem in the
10:04
beginning. Yeah. Second
10:04
hospital, we checked the lungs.
10:08
The lungs, showed that there was
10:08
no issues. I go back to the
10:12
doctor asked for a third doctor.
10:12
I like this doctor can tell
10:17
she's listening and she wants to
10:17
care while my vitals again and
10:21
she goes, Yeah, I definitely
10:21
recommend this antidepressant.
10:25
And I'm like, I'm not depressed.
10:25
And that was the one that I took
10:32
to the pharmacy. And I asked how
10:32
much it was, there was the first
10:36
time I was going to fill it. How
10:36
much does it take to fill and
10:38
they said, 150 bucks. I'm like,
10:38
I'm not spending 150 bucks on
10:43
something that I know that's not
10:43
wrong with me. Right? We need to
10:46
figure something else out. But I
10:46
did get Lorazepam filled at that
10:51
time. Just in case my headaches
10:51
were so severe. I wanted to try
10:55
one. Right.
10:57  Melissa Bright
Can I ask you
10:57
this? Why was every doctor
11:02
keeping keep reverting back to
11:02
depression, even though your
11:06
physical symptoms of chronic
11:06
headaches? Now trouble
11:10
breathing? Why would they
11:10
automatically be like, Oh,
11:14
you're just depressed? What?
11:14
Like, what kind of what do those
11:17
conversations to consist of? If?
11:17
If you're playing it back in
11:22
your head? Why did they keep
11:22
going back to you're just
11:25
depressed? you're depressed?
11:27  Tim
So I don't think what are
11:27
your thoughts? I don't really
11:32
think you want to hear my real
11:32
opinion on why they were they're
11:35
doing it. No. Yes, I do. Okay,
11:35
my, my opinion, because I've had
11:39
some of dealing with doctors and
11:39
hospitals, this last go around.
11:43
Yep. Is that unfortunately,
11:43
doctors or our lack of business,
11:49
you come in, and they're going
11:49
to treat you not with health and
11:53
not with care. I mean, not all
11:53
of them. Sorry if there's any
11:56
hackers Listen to this. But all
11:56
the ones that I've run across on
11:59
my journey, were like, here's
11:59
medication. One because they
12:04
can't find an answer. And two,
12:04
it's it's public knowledge that
12:09
doctors get a kick off of when
12:09
they give you medication. So now
12:14
that's a business when a doctor
12:14
says I'm going to make money by
12:17
giving you medication. Let's
12:17
just do that. Instead of digging
12:22
a little deeper, saying, Hey,
12:22
there might be other tests that
12:24
you could do, or find out, which
12:24
is what I had to do. I had to
12:29
tell my doctor, I said, Listen,
12:29
send me to an endocrinologist. I
12:33
had to look that word up and
12:33
figure out what it was to test
12:38
my hormones and stuff like that.
12:38
They did, I found out that my
12:43
hormones are great that I
12:43
shouldn't be experiencing what
12:46
I'm experiencing. But the doctor
12:46
goes. And we didn't end up
12:52
liking each other either.
12:52
Because the first time I met
12:55
him, he goes he was saying the
12:55
same things. It's up might all
13:00
be in your head and stuff like
13:00
that. But then he seen my
13:03
symptoms. He seen my results on
13:03
the second one he's like, you
13:06
know, this really seems similar
13:06
to long haulers. And I'm like,
13:10
what's long haulers? Right.
13:10
That's when I found out what I
13:13
was going through. And it
13:13
started showing me that I'm not
13:19
crazy. I mean, I know I am. But
13:19
there's something out there.
13:24
Right What is I don't know, but
13:24
I have it. Right. And then that
13:30
led me to a neurologist. Because
13:30
he said go to neurologists that
13:34
because it can affect the brain
13:34
and I'm thinking it's attacking
13:37
my brain. I called the
13:37
neurologists and this is why our
13:41
health systems flawed. They said
13:41
we'll talk to you in August and
13:45
I'm like listen, I'm decreasing
13:45
in health every single day I
13:48
might not be around in August.
13:48
We got we got to talk sooner and
13:52
they're like that's that's as
13:52
soon as we can do anything.
13:56
Yeah, yeah.
13:58  Melissa Bright
Really quickly
13:58
just to explain to people this
14:02
long haulers Can you explain to
14:02
people what that is? Like when
14:08
you found out like what, what is
14:08
long haulers?
14:10  Tim
What is my doctor telling
14:10
me I have? So I would like to
14:14
think of myself as an expert in
14:14
log haulers because I wasn't
14:18
getting any answers. Long
14:18
haulers is when you recover from
14:23
COVID and you can experience
14:23
symptoms. As soon as you recover
14:27
up to four to eight weeks
14:27
afterwards. I recovered for six
14:31
weeks. I had the best January in
14:31
my entire life, business Family
14:36
Health. Everything It was great
14:36
why I knew I was not depressed,
14:41
right? shoving stuff down my
14:41
throat like I'm not depressed
14:45
but long haulers it affects the
14:45
easiest way said affects your
14:51
weaknesses. So there's 100
14:51
different symptoms to long
14:57
haulers. Oh don't even realize
14:57
that they have Long haulers and
15:01
they do you can have mild COVID
15:01
and still have symptoms of mine
15:09
attacked my lungs because I have
15:09
asthma. never told anyone but I
15:14
supposed to get an inhaler. I
15:14
don't like medication, it's no
15:18
secret. So I run every day to
15:18
keep my lungs strong.
15:23
It found my weakness and went
15:23
after it. So that's that's long
15:27
hours it. It has a lot of
15:27
variations. It can take as long
15:31
as it could be. If you have
15:31
anxiety, it could break your
15:34
anxiety up, which is crazy. It's
15:34
a loss. It's even getting into
15:38
people's bone marrows. Now it's
15:38
just, it's crazy what this
15:43
Chinese disease did. We're
15:43
gonna, we're gonna say we was
15:50
made in the lab.
15:52  Melissa Bright
So at what point
15:52
did you finally get in? Well,
15:58
okay, and please tell me if
15:58
we're like skipping way to a
16:01
head. But at what point? Did you
16:01
find out that the long haulers
16:05
was for sure affecting your
16:05
lungs? Like, I knew, obviously,
16:10
you felt the physical symptoms.
16:10
But was there a point that a
16:13
doctor said, yeah, this is what
16:13
it's doing?
16:16  Tim
Yeah, but that was, yeah,
16:16
that was quite forward ahead. So
16:20
we want Yeah, I got a couple
16:20
steps. And then we'll get right
16:24
to that perfect. Friend of mine
16:24
come over for a meeting in my
16:28
kitchen. And it was a it was a
16:28
fun meeting. It was going to be
16:31
a good meeting. I like meetings.
16:31
And I like talking to friends.
16:35
Well, I noticed during our
16:35
conversation, that I'm getting
16:38
very short winded more than ever
16:38
before. So I started holding on
16:42
to the counter. And by the end
16:42
of the conversation, I was down
16:45
on one knee. And he didn't break
16:45
eye contact. I mean, I wasn't,
16:50
you know, I'm just barely
16:50
holding on like, yeah, I'm still
16:53
powering through this camera. So
16:53
at that point, I told my wife he
16:58
left. I was like, I can't
16:58
breathe and my headaches so
17:02
severe right now. I think I'm
17:02
dying. And we feel that
17:08
Lorazepam, that anxiety stuff.
17:08
It helps with the headache. So
17:12
she goes, do you think I should
17:12
give you one and I'm like, break
17:16
it in half. Let's see what it
17:16
does broken half. Half hour
17:20
later. I still wasn't breathing
17:20
well, but the headaches slowed
17:24
down a little bit. Initially, it
17:24
slowed my body down when my body
17:29
was feeling anxiety. It just
17:29
ramped up so right. So I forgot
17:37
where I was going from that
17:37
point. Yeah. The breathing
17:42
breathing, your breathing you
17:42
called summer s. So I started I
17:47
started taking this, I started
17:47
taking that Lorazepam. Okay. I
17:52
took half a pill every day, when
17:52
I found out that I wasn't
17:55
breathing very well. And it just
17:55
got worse. So I'm like, is it
18:01
this medication making it worse?
18:01
What is it making it worse? I
18:05
have no idea. Well, I had one
18:05
day where the headaches were I
18:09
mean, my headaches were ranging
18:09
from on a scale of one to 10. My
18:11
headaches were seven to eight
18:11
all day, I had one headache.
18:14
That was just a 10. I'm dying.
18:14
And I didn't say it out loud.
18:18
I'm not freaked out. But I'm
18:18
like, this is so bad. Like, I
18:22
can't function right now. Right?
18:22
And it's all in the same spot.
18:26
And so she's like, we're gonna
18:26
take you to Barnes. And I'm not
18:29
driving at this time. I quit
18:29
driving quit doing anything at
18:32
this point. So she drives me to
18:32
Barnes. They have a long haulers
18:37
clinic that I was signed up for
18:37
at the end of the month. So I'm
18:39
like, cool, are the end of June.
18:39
So I'm like, cool. They'll see
18:43
me. They'll help me and then the
18:43
long haulers will be able to see
18:47
what's going on. So I get there.
18:47
I waited six and a half hours in
18:52
the waiting room with a deadly
18:52
headache. And they're like, Oh,
18:56
you were the last because you
18:56
just had a headache. And I'm
18:58
like, nevertheless, I get I get
18:58
in. And they're like we're gonna
19:02
give you something for your
19:02
headache. To make it go away.
19:07
I'm like, fantastic. What is it?
19:07
They go just a something I don't
19:12
know. They rattle off some big
19:12
names. And it went into my
19:15
system. And it within a matter
19:15
of minutes. I'm like, I don't
19:19
feel good. And the nurse is
19:19
still in there. She goes, what I
19:21
go, I'm dying. And she goes what
19:21
I go I'm fucking dying. Where
19:26
were my exact words. It had
19:26
ketamine in it. Found out that
19:30
I'm allergic to ketamine. Holy
19:30
shit. Yeah, I had the worst half
19:36
hour of not not half an hour and
19:36
a half of laying in that bed.
19:39
They walked out. So it's just me
19:39
and summer in there and I'm just
19:42
feeling the worst. I've been
19:42
dealing with this for months.
19:46
And this was April 17. So yep,
19:46
no, um, it was right before my
19:51
backyard Olympics that I
19:51
prepared for for two years that
19:53
I couldn't show up to. Before
19:53
that. I'm in the hospital
19:57
thinking I'm dying from a shot
19:57
they gave May we get home at two
20:02
in the morning, I lay down and I
20:02
couldn't sleep. And that pattern
20:06
continued for 21 days. I did not
20:06
sleep for 21 days. I would just
20:12
lay restless. I couldn't I just
20:12
it just got it got it was held.
20:17
Yeah,
20:18
go to the doctors. And they're
20:18
like, here's I went to the
20:21
Barnes clinic and they're like,
20:21
here's medication to help you
20:23
sleep. I tried it. It didn't
20:23
work. So now I'm laying awake,
20:29
feeling drugged. And it made my
20:29
head even worse. So now I have
20:34
no answers. I'm suffocating,
20:34
lying awake on medication they
20:37
say should help me. And on the
20:37
21st day of no sleep. My wife
20:45
wakes up and she looks at me.
20:45
I'm on the floor. She goes she
20:49
okay. I was like, I don't wanna
20:49
I don't wanna do this anymore.
20:51
She's like, you want I'm like,
20:51
we're all going to get
20:54
emotional. Kathy.
20:56  Melissa Bright
You're fine.
20:56
Tim, you're fine.
21:02  Tim
I told her I said, I don't
21:02
want to live anymore. Like, I
21:06
can't. Nobody. Nobody can help
21:06
me. I'm not sleeping. And my
21:12
kids are just watching me fall
21:12
apart.
21:23
not supposed to cry dammit.
21:23
Okay.
21:26  Melissa Bright
Yes, you are.
21:26
It's okay. It's a feeling. It's,
21:30
I promise you. It's okay. Look
21:30
at me, Tim, I promise you that
21:35
it's okay to cry. Okay. It's not
21:35
make you weak.
21:38  Tim
I know. I know. I'm just
21:38
trying to talk.
21:46
So I had the same conversation
21:46
with because my mom would call
21:49
and check on me. Right? Then
21:49
conversation, she could just
21:52
hear my voice. So she drives up.
21:52
And I went late in the basement.
21:57
And this is where I started
21:57
meditation. La in the basement
22:00
for three hours until my mom got
22:00
there. And her and my wife, I
22:06
mean, there's there's nothing
22:06
they can do when you're in that
22:09
situation. And I love them to
22:09
death. And they're they're my
22:11
angels. But there's nothing that
22:11
no one could help me under could
22:15
have could have helped me. But
22:15
my my mom and my wife, there's
22:18
nothing they could do. So they
22:18
just tried to be there for me as
22:22
much as possible. That's when I
22:22
just had it. I'm like I have
22:27
I'm, you know, this, this is
22:27
exactly what happened. Laying
22:32
down there for three hours and
22:32
come back up. Maya, my four year
22:36
old comes up gives me a hug. And
22:36
I'm just like, I have got to do
22:40
this for my kids. Like I have
22:40
got I can't leave them like that
22:43
is I didn't want to leave them.
22:43
But I was done. So I have to
22:49
figure this out. So and I got or
22:49
the universe or somehow had in
22:55
my head that may help me. They
22:55
they're they're going to give me
22:58
an answer. So I start calling
22:58
mail, boom, boom. And I got an
23:03
answer in the guys. I can't we
23:03
have a long horse clinic we can
23:06
help you and I'm like, What? No,
23:06
when this is amazing, like
23:10
you're gonna save my life is so
23:10
incredible. And they're like,
23:13
they're like, yeah, we'll have
23:13
you set up for June 26 or no?
23:18
Right after June 2016. That's my
23:18
birthday. And I'm like, oh, oh,
23:23
we can't do that any any sooner.
23:23
And they're like, No,
23:25
unfortunately, no. Me being a
23:25
person that I am very
23:30
persistent. and pulling every
23:30
day. Every day, same lady, I'm
23:35
like, Listen, I'm going to call
23:35
you every single day because I
23:38
have four children and a wife
23:38
that depend on me. And my
23:41
symptoms are getting worse. So I
23:41
don't care if you hate me, I
23:43
this conversation is gonna
23:43
happen every day, get used to
23:46
knowing my name, because I will
23:46
keep calling you. I called her a
23:50
few days in a row. And I'm still
23:50
not sleeping during all this
23:53
because I'm just I'm getting the
23:53
mail. It's gonna save my life.
23:57
And she's like, well, I can get
23:57
you in the end of May. Then I'm
24:01
like, shut the front door,
24:01
really? And she's like, yeah,
24:04
I'm like, okay, in my head.
24:04
That's two, three weeks,
24:07
whatever it was at the time. Can
24:07
I make it two to three weeks
24:10
without sleeping? Man? Okay, I
24:10
guess I gotta trust God on this
24:15
one. Here we go. got off the
24:15
phone. And again, like, by the
24:19
will of God, she calls me right
24:19
back and she's like, Tim, when
24:24
can you get here and this is on
24:24
Thursday. I'm like, lady, I'm in
24:27
the car right now. Like you want
24:27
me to you want me to? I'm not
24:30
really in the car. I'm like, she
24:30
goes, No. Can you be here on
24:34
Monday? And I'm like, Yes,
24:34
absolutely. I can be there on
24:39
Monday. And I gotta tell you
24:39
this one big piece before we get
24:42
to how we found out that I
24:42
wasn't breathing. So they send
24:48
me all the testing they're gonna
24:48
do well, and they said it was 20
24:52
to $23,000. And they said, We
24:52
don't take your insurance and So
25:00
me, I'm on my deathbed. I'm
25:00
gonna die, right? And I'm just
25:03
tired of everything that I'm
25:03
going through. I'm getting
25:06
there, you know? So we were
25:06
going to make it work one way or
25:11
the other. Right? We've and then
25:11
from that point, a lot of that,
25:17
and I can't just pinpoint one
25:17
person. But there were there was
25:21
a GoFundMe, there was a lot of
25:21
people in the country. I mean,
25:24
everyone came together. Like,
25:24
I've never felt that much love
25:29
in my entire life. And it
25:29
actually kept me moving forward
25:33
on top of my family like, yeah,
25:33
I, they all in all, and I don't
25:39
know, the final numbers. Now, my
25:39
bills total. were like, $35,000,
25:44
everyone can be raised probably
25:44
around 30 to $32,000. I mean,
25:49
that is just mind blowing, you
25:49
know, I can't even so I have to
25:54
just if anyone listening that
25:54
was part of that. God bless you.
25:57
Thank you. Um, and that's one of
25:57
the reasons I wanted to share
26:01
too is when you look at me, even
26:01
when I was going through
26:06
everything I was going through,
26:06
I look normal. I have a lot of
26:11
people say, Oh, he's just
26:11
depressed. Not not doctors. And
26:17
I'm not naming names. But a lot
26:17
of people like, Oh, he's just
26:19
depressed. And I could see how
26:19
you could see that from a
26:22
distance. I look normal. Like, I
26:22
don't look like I'm, and I'll be
26:28
damned if you see me hurting in
26:28
any way. Anybody? Oh, I could be
26:32
dying in front of you. And I'll
26:32
walk in the other room and die.
26:34
You're not gonna see me. That's
26:34
just not what I want. I want I
26:37
don't want to show that weakness
26:37
to you. Yeah. But yeah, that
26:43
that's my point I wanted to
26:43
share because everyone did so
26:46
much.
26:47  Melissa Bright
Yeah. And I just
26:47
want to quickly add, so
26:50
obviously, we're friends on
26:50
Facebook, I know you from high
26:53
school, I've known you for 18
26:53
years, oh my god, I don't even
26:57
know. That's crazy. Um, but just
26:57
to see that just even on
27:02
Facebook, and I don't live in
27:02
the community where we're from
27:06
anymore. I don't live in
27:06
Pacific. But to see that and
27:10
even to just feel it on
27:10
Facebook, and to see all the
27:14
restaurants and all the people
27:14
and all the shares and
27:18
everything. They did that. But
27:18
they also did that because Tim,
27:21
you have such you have made such
27:21
a contribution to the Pacific
27:25
community also, and they knew it
27:25
was time to give back to you and
27:29
help you and my brother who
27:29
lives in Montana, that's not
27:34
even from here. His best friend
27:34
lives in Pacific now. And so he
27:38
was there two weeks ago. And
27:38
he's like, there's Tim Husereau
27:41
Tim Husereau Oh, who's Tim
27:41
Husereau? Oh, and I'm like,
27:43
that's the guy that was on my
27:43
podcast that has long haulers.
27:46
She's like, Oh, okay. Like, it
27:46
was just crazy. And it was
27:51
amazing how everyone came
27:51
together to help you because
27:56
that was like your, I don't want
27:56
to say your last hurdle. But it
27:59
was like God. Now you've got
27:59
accepted to the Mayo Clinic, but
28:02
you need Yeah, 2025 $30,000. So
28:02
I just thought it was beautiful.
28:08
You could feel it even just on
28:08
social media. I wasn't even in
28:12
the community at that point. But
28:12
it's incredible, initially, to
28:16
be honest, because I'm an honest
28:16
person had a very hard problem
28:20
with it.
28:21  Tim
Right? When the GoFundMe
28:21
started, and then the donation
28:25
started coming in. I'm like,
28:25
I'm, I'm a giver. That's that
28:29
gets me out of bed. I don't like
28:29
this. And I gotta tell you, I
28:34
had a great conversation with my
28:34
neighbor, Todd Hardaway. And he
28:39
said, he said, Tim, walk, why do
28:39
you do what you do for the
28:43
community and everyone else,
28:43
like, well, because God put it
28:46
on my heart, and he goes, so if
28:46
you're not accepting what people
28:50
are doing for you, you're
28:50
denying what God put on their
28:53
heart. And I'm like, whoa.
28:53
You're right. You're absolutely
29:00
right. And yeah, I I, I've never
29:00
felt that amount of love. And it
29:07
just, I'm, I'm a hugger. I'm
29:07
gonna hug everyone that I can't
29:11
once my lungs heal. Everybody
29:11
that had anything to do with it,
29:17
I just, yeah, I literally. Yeah,
29:17
we'll get into the part where
29:22
I'm not breathing. But this will
29:22
segue into that.
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30:53  Tim
So Monday, we we get to we
30:53
get down to Minnesota. Up to
31:00
Minnesota. Oh, it's in
31:00
Minnesota. Yes. Why did I think
31:03
it was in Arizona? I don't know.
31:03
It would have probably been a
31:07
lot more interesting of a dry
31:07
cornfield. So you never went to
31:11
Arizona. What I feel like
31:11
somebody said the Mayo Clinic
31:15
was in Arizona. Just kidding.
31:15
Okay. They have multiple ones.
31:19
Okay. Okay. It was in Minnesota.
31:19
Gotcha. Yeah. Okay. Yeah,
31:24
Minnesota. Okay. Well, whatever.
31:24
The city was beautiful.
31:29
Rochester is amazing. Because
31:29
Mayo's the whole city. But the
31:33
drive up there was awful with
31:33
cornfields. And when I sit still
31:40
to this still now even I'm not
31:40
getting to where I'm at now.
31:45
When I sit I suffocate
31:47
my bloods not circulating
31:47
properly, and my lungs aren't
31:51
getting oxygen. So for seven and
31:51
a half hours, I'm in a car
31:53
suffocating and I kept rolling
31:53
down the window. And at this
31:57
point, in all the doctors still
31:57
say I'm crazy. I'm just I'm
32:01
depressed not let's not use
32:01
crazy. I know I'm crazy. Doctors
32:04
are still saying I'm depressed.
32:04
Right. So I'm like, Am I just
32:08
depresses that's why I can't
32:08
breathe in this car like what is
32:11
going on? So we get up to to
32:11
Rochester, and summer my wife
32:19
got us Airbnb. And to get to our
32:19
room, we had to walk down a long
32:25
hallway. Two flights of stairs
32:25
down narrow hallway to get to a
32:30
room and I'm already gassed from
32:30
not not you know, sitting on a
32:35
car. So we get in there. We lay
32:35
in the bed the first night and
32:40
the mattress did this in the
32:40
middle. Oh yeah. I I'm already
32:45
struggling with insomnia.
32:45
suffocating. And like I'm so I
32:49
stayed awake all night. Again,
32:49
and I put my hope was once I get
32:55
to Rochester, I'm saved. So I
32:55
crossed the finish line made it
32:58
there. I'm like I'm safe. First
32:58
night, I don't sleep. And I put
33:03
on I put something on Facebook.
33:03
And then just the love came in
33:07
right away. And it literally
33:07
just kept igniting hope in me
33:12
like people have my back. I have
33:12
a support system. This feels
33:15
good. And the second a second
33:15
night, we started to lay down.
33:21
And I'm like, Listen, I'm not
33:21
I'm not going to sleep again.
33:24
There's no and we have already
33:24
went through a whole day of
33:26
testing. Every day was a day of
33:26
testing. Like we got to do
33:31
something else. So she's like,
33:31
well, there's a Holiday Inn down
33:34
on the corner at no Hyatt. So we
33:34
walked into this Hyatt, and I'm
33:38
like, what are your beds? Like,
33:38
you know, like, they're brand
33:41
new. I'm like, let's do it.
33:41
We're coming in here, right? We
33:44
went to all of our stuff up and
33:44
we went over to the Hyatt. And I
33:49
didn't sleep that night either.
33:49
Yeah, I just the certification
33:55
wasn't allowing me to relax
33:55
enough. I wasn't getting enough
34:00
oxygen. So when I lay down I was
34:00
literally suffocating. So it's
34:04
not any better when you lay
34:04
down. It's only okay when you
34:08
stand up. Or it is better when I
34:08
stand up. Okay, correct. Yes, I
34:16
it's better now. We're gonna get
34:16
to that point, right. But at
34:22
this point, laying down I
34:22
suffocate. Um, and so my, my, my
34:29
lungs aren't sending enough
34:29
oxygen to my brain for me to get
34:31
that sleep state. So it's a
34:31
horrible suffocate. It's not
34:35
like, I can't breathe. It's
34:35
they're not it's not. I have too
34:39
much carbon monoxide is from my
34:39
understanding. And it's not it's
34:42
not allowing me to feel magical
34:42
where I fall asleep. I'm just
34:46
like, I'm out. Right? Yeah. So I
34:46
just lay there for hours. Did
34:51
that the second night?
34:52  Melissa Bright
So question
34:52
about sleeping like, even though
34:56
you you're obviously feeling
34:56
exhausted though. Like All you
35:00
want is to sleep you just
35:00
desperately, physically can't.
35:04  Tim
Yep, um, there's lungs
35:04
aren't getting that. And that's
35:08
my best explanation. The lungs
35:08
weren't giving me enough oxygen
35:11
in my brain to feel comfortable
35:11
to lay down. And we found that
35:14
out. And I'll get to that after
35:14
because Wednesday was a big day
35:17
for me. Okay. So are we at
35:17
Wednesday or Tuesday? Yeah. So
35:23
Monday, Monday, Tuesday testing,
35:23
and mayo, you have to park in a
35:30
garage, go down an elevator
35:30
underground. And then you have
35:35
to walk quarter of a mile to
35:35
half a mile to get into tomato.
35:40
So it's not like, Hey, you just
35:40
come into mayo. You sit in one
35:44
room, and everything's fine. And
35:44
now all these magical doctors
35:47
come in and save your life.
35:47
That's what I thought. It's you
35:49
have to walk from office to
35:49
office to get this testing done.
35:53
And I'm suffocating with a mask
35:53
on, which makes it worse, right?
35:59
And we get to Wednesday. And I
35:59
met with the doctor, and he's
36:04
like, we got some tests and so
36:04
far, like, okay, and he's like,
36:09
your bloods fine, and he's going
36:09
through the checklist. And then
36:12
he pulls out a piece of paper.
36:12
And we have some conversations,
36:15
and he draws a picture of a
36:15
brain. And he's like, this is
36:19
the amygdala. And this is your
36:19
frontal lobe. And like, Okay,
36:24
he's like, you're in fight or
36:24
flight mode. It goes, basically,
36:28
this is all in your head. And
36:28
this can be taken care of with
36:31
cognitive therapy. Yeah, this is
36:31
now the Fourth Doctor.
36:36
And the one that I've put all my
36:36
time and energy into getting to
36:42
on Wednesdays telling me that
36:42
this can all be fixed through
36:45
therapy. And he goes, I can tell
36:45
you're type A personality, and
36:50
this isn't going to sit well
36:50
with you. And I'm like, I'm mad.
36:54
I'm pissed. Yeah. And now I'm
36:54
starting to get depressed. I'm
36:58
really thinking I'm depressed.
36:58
He this guy's making me think.
37:02
Right. So I sit there for a
37:02
second. And I tried to get a
37:07
thought out because I'm like,
37:07
I'm talking to press. I can't
37:10
think of what to ask this guy.
37:10
And it clicked to me. I'm like,
37:14
why am I suffocating? Like, why
37:14
can't I breathe? I that has to
37:19
be what's going on with me. He
37:19
checks my lungs again, and the
37:22
oxygen, my oxygen reader and he
37:22
goes, you're at 98. He was here.
37:25
You're fine. He goes, it's
37:25
really all has to be in your
37:28
head. So I walked out of that,
37:28
and summer was sitting out
37:32
there. And I'm like, and I was
37:32
done. I was back to feeling like
37:36
I didn't have 21 days. I'm like,
37:36
right? I'm just depressed. She
37:40
goes what I go, that mF setup.
37:40
Presidents can be fixed with
37:44
therapy. And I was I just I was
37:44
lost. I was lost, right? No,
37:52
we're Minnesota. I want to feel
37:52
better. This is where I'm
37:56
supposed to feel better. And
37:56
they're telling me therapy over
37:59
months is gonna make me feel
37:59
better. I can't breathe right
38:02
now. That's not that is not
38:02
sitting well with me. Right? So
38:06
summer takes me for a drive and
38:06
rolls the window down. And I
38:10
found that I can breathe with
38:10
the window down that the air is
38:13
in the face. And so I just have
38:13
my head out the window breathe
38:15
and, and again, I'm just
38:15
searching for answers. And she
38:21
drove me around for an hour and
38:21
a half, two hours. And we tried
38:23
to sightsee, but I get out a
38:23
car, I'd walk five feet and I
38:25
couldn't, couldn't walk anymore.
38:25
I had to get back in the car.
38:29
And it sucked because it was
38:29
beautiful up there. But so we're
38:32
riding I'm like, wait a minute,
38:32
it just dawned on me. I took a
38:37
breathing test today. Two of
38:37
them. And I failed. And her name
38:42
was Shannon. And she was we had
38:42
great conversations. She said,
38:46
you did horrible on these
38:46
breathing tests. Okay, there's
38:51
the light. There's the light,
38:51
you know, for me to see the next
38:54
day. This guy is saying I'm
38:54
crazy. My tests are coming in on
38:59
Thursday. So I wake up on
38:59
Thursday, boom, hits my phone.
39:02
Sure, shit, my lungs are
39:02
screwed. There's the answer this
39:07
guy, all those doctors can kiss
39:07
my button now, because they're
39:11
trying to shove medication in my
39:11
throat or therapy, which I'll
39:16
take therapy all day. But fix so
39:16
I can talk to a therapist. You
39:22
know? Right. Let me have a
39:22
conversation. Yeah, so let me
39:29
ask you this really quick. So
39:29
just because I don't how was he
39:33
saying your oxygen levels were
39:33
good if your breathing tests
39:38
were bad. What? Yeah, I know.
39:38
That's what made me not
39:42
understand it too. So you put
39:42
the little finger thing on and
39:46
anyone can buy one of these. I
39:46
have one at my house which it
39:50
says I'm at 97 to 98% oxygen.
39:50
Okay. I did this term COVID when
39:56
I couldn't take a step to it
39:56
kept saying 97 night that's why
39:58
I didn't go to the hospital. My
39:58
co2 Max, which from my
40:03
understandings your oxygen into
40:03
your carbon monoxide out, I
40:07
don't know, my was 30. And he
40:07
said, The pulmonologist said, to
40:14
make you better understanding
40:14
Lance Armstrong, is that an ADA,
40:18
any athletes that train
40:18
themselves are at a 60 to a 70.
40:25
person that's not really into
40:25
fitness can be at like a 40 to a
40:28
45. euro 30. I should have been
40:28
double that if not double plus a
40:34
little bit more. Right. So, cuz
40:34
you're very active. You exercise
40:39
all the time. I was running two
40:39
to five miles a day, right?
40:44
Yeah, just to paint the picture
40:44
for the listeners. Correct. Very
40:49
active before all this area
40:49
active. And before I went to
40:52
Mayo, I, my breathing was so bad
40:52
that I would walk to the end of
40:58
my street, which is 400 feet,
40:58
probably. And I was done. I
41:04
thought I was dying. But yeah,
41:04
so they found out my lungs were
41:09
bad. Not working properly, but
41:09
they don't have the testing to
41:13
show. And this is what I found
41:13
out through another doctor who I
41:17
follow. It messes with the blood
41:17
vessels. And your your air
41:21
chambers and your lungs it
41:21
actually mess it like it
41:25
condenses them or clamps down on
41:25
them. So might show a bunch of
41:29
oxygen in there. But I'm not
41:29
getting it to my brain, which is
41:33
what was causing the massive
41:33
headaches,
41:36
causing dizziness, the weakness,
41:36
my oxygen wasn't going like it
41:42
should have been. Alright. So on
41:42
Friday, they gave me a
41:47
breathable steroid, and sent me
41:47
home. And I'm on cloud nine, I'm
41:52
like, Listen, this breathable
41:52
steroids. In three to six
41:56
months, it's gonna bring me back
41:56
to life. That's what they said,
41:59
I have something to go off of
41:59
now. And so I'm doing the
42:05
breathable steroids. thinking
42:05
it's working. It's actually not
42:09
it's actually doing the reverse
42:09
effect of of what it should have
42:12
done. And that went on for I
42:12
don't know how many days I think
42:20
it was up to 12 or 13 days on
42:20
that had to take it twice a day.
42:24
And my breathing was getting so
42:24
bad that when I'd have a
42:27
conversation was actually stayed
42:27
away from everybody. But when I
42:33
would talk to people, my
42:33
conversations would come out
42:36
like this on just for example,
42:36
my name is Tim, I'm trying to
42:47
tell you and my brain was going
42:47
100 miles an hour because my
42:51
brain knows how to operate. My
42:51
lungs were were just dead. I
42:56
they could not connect. And it's
42:56
beyond frustrating. To tell you
43:05
what that felt like. And to make
43:05
matters worse, I called Mayo The
43:12
Doctor Who said I was crazy. And
43:12
I didn't like him from the
43:15
beginning. It cost me 12 $100
43:15
for zoom call. And I'm
43:20
suffocating. And I call him and
43:20
I say listen with my words,
43:28
suffocating I'm suffer cating I
43:28
need help. In his words were
43:39
keep doing the steroid. There's
43:39
nothing else we can do for you.
43:43
And I'm angry now at but I can't
43:43
get angry because I gotta
43:46
conserve your Mayo, you know,
43:46
you need to do something for me.
43:52
He's like, unfortunately, it's
43:52
the steroids our only option at
43:55
this point. He goes, we'll check
43:55
back in with you in July. That
43:59
was that was the people that
43:59
were supposed to save my life.
44:06
That was their answer. And
44:06
granted, they did to look at the
44:10
positive because that's what I
44:10
tried to look at all this. They
44:13
showed me that I was healthy.
44:13
And all my organs were
44:16
functioning properly. All my
44:16
hormones were functioning
44:19
properly. They gave me a
44:19
foundation to build off of, but
44:25
they gave me the wrong
44:25
medication, which was making
44:28
things worse. And then they said
44:28
we can't help you at that point.
44:33
And so this just recently
44:33
happened like what three weeks
44:38
ago, two weeks ago a month.
44:38
Okay? Okay, okay. Yeah, I'm
44:43
still I'm still Yeah, I'm still
44:43
in hell very much so it's
44:48
getting better. But when he said
44:48
I there's nothing else we can do
44:53
for you. My type A personality,
44:53
which I love, got on the phone
44:59
and called Every hyperbaric
44:59
chamber therapy that I could
45:02
find because I'm on a support
45:02
group of 20,000 people, one
45:07
person mentioned that it's
45:07
helping them and they were from
45:09
another country. So I looked it
45:09
up, talk to the doctor. He's
45:13
like, 100% success rate, no side
45:13
effects. I'm like, sounds like
45:17
Bs, but what can it hurt? Right?
45:17
Right. So I called nine
45:22
different places. That the price
45:22
range from 2000 to 4000. For her
45:29
session, or session, Oh, cool. I
45:29
had to get on a waiting list.
45:33
And I'm like, this is this
45:33
isn't. I'm not, I'm not waiting.
45:38
And then a place called restore,
45:38
answered the phone. And they
45:43
said, Yeah, we'll give you 10
45:43
sessions for $400. I'm like,
45:47
What? That doesn't even. Are
45:47
you? Like I asked so many
45:51
questions after that. They said,
45:51
Yeah, 400 bucks. And I'm like,
45:56
you know, what? What's the worst
45:56
that can happen? I'm
45:59
suffocating. This is a tank.
45:59
Let's go check it out. So I get
46:04
there. On day one. nervous, I
46:04
was pale. I mean, you can ask
46:10
the people that work there. But
46:10
like, I look like a scared
46:12
because I'm, I don't know if
46:12
this is gonna work. I'm getting
46:15
close containment thing. I'm
46:15
already claustrophobic. And I
46:20
don't know what's gonna happen.
46:20
I'm already terrified.
46:24
So I get in there, sitting there
46:24
for an hour, and I get out and
46:29
no change whatsoever. And it's
46:29
it's both everyone else said
46:32
three to four sessions. So I
46:32
have in my head three to four
46:34
sessions, right? So they said
46:34
jump on the lake compression
46:40
thing. And it helps circulate
46:40
the blood through your body. Why
46:43
do it jump on there? And then
46:43
the owner, Shannon comes up. And
46:47
she's she's to introduce herself
46:47
and start to talk and and this
46:52
is the conversation I have. I'm
46:52
sorry, I don't talk fast. My
47:00
lungs have been you know, I'm
47:00
trying to explain to her what's
47:04
going on. And 10 minutes of
47:04
like, impressions. My brain is
47:09
working really fast. 10 minutes
47:09
of like impressions. I want to
47:13
say something in my words went
47:13
right out my mouth, no
47:16
hesitation whatsoever. And I
47:16
said, holy shit. I talk to you
47:21
right now. What I'm like, I have
47:21
a conversation. And I don't know
47:25
how long like this is amazing.
47:25
And it was just like, I found
47:30
where I was supposed to be at.
47:30
For sure. Yes. And so my oxygen
47:36
from that point, after talking
47:36
to her, lasted for three hours,
47:40
and then it would shut off
47:40
again. When it would shut off. I
47:46
started finding tricks, I'd have
47:46
to put my feet up to get the
47:48
blood flowing back down to my
47:48
lungs. But again, after day, one
47:54
of having oxygen for three hours
47:54
and feeling like a million
47:57
bucks. I'm like, this is great.
47:57
Right? I've now done 10 of them.
48:04
Okay, and when I did the first
48:04
one, like I said, I walked into
48:08
my street I say 100 feet. It
48:08
could be 400 feet. It's
48:11
somewhere not good. Right? Three
48:11
days ago, I walked six miles.
48:18
Wow. Yeah. So there's, there's
48:18
progress. There is and during
48:25
the the 10 sessions that I went.
48:25
I tried to walk five miles
48:30
twice. And I couldn't make it. I
48:30
thought I was dying both times.
48:39
The second time. It was it was
48:39
the hardest physical thing I
48:44
ever did to walk 4.7 miles. I'm
48:44
literally dragging my feet. And
48:51
this was on session. Probably
48:51
four. I should have waited. I
48:55
should have been more patient
48:55
but I'm like I'm breathing. No
48:58
doctors are helping me. Let me
48:58
see if I can open my lungs up by
49:00
myself. Right. But I finished
49:00
that one by the grace of God and
49:06
then the six mile I think it was
49:06
on seven or eight. Sorry, that's
49:11
not on your screen. Is it? Okay?
49:11
No, I was on seven or eight. In
49:16
the tank, hyperbaric tanks, and
49:16
I made I made five miles and
49:20
then I'm like, man, I made five
49:20
miles let's do six. So then I
49:23
did six. And it's Yeah, it's so
49:23
it's increasing. My lungs are
49:28
increasing. Yeah, yeah, it's
49:28
getting better. So at this
49:34
point, today, June 10. What
49:34
symptoms Do you still have from
49:42
long haulers like what do you
49:42
deal with today? Yesterday, the
49:48
day before that. So a lot. We
49:48
know why I went back to Mayo the
49:55
second time with my mom and They
49:55
did a bunch of testing, they
50:00
found out I have a condition
50:00
called pots. They had me on a
50:04
bed. They did a bunch of testing
50:04
on me heart, blood pressure,
50:10
heart rate, all that stuff, and
50:10
then raise me up to some angle,
50:15
angles. 95 degrees, maybe. When
50:15
I got to 95, the angle, we'll
50:22
call it, I almost blacked out.
50:22
Everything started spinning. I'm
50:26
like, Hey, I'm getting ready to
50:26
pass it. And I wasn't scared.
50:28
I'm like, I'm gonna pass out
50:28
just just so you know. And they
50:30
had me strapped in. Like, it's
50:30
fine. It's for the test, we have
50:34
to find out. Well, come to find
50:34
out, I have its pots. It's a
50:39
blood circulation issue from
50:39
COVID. Okay. Mayo can't do
50:46
anything for me. Because I'm too
50:46
healthy. If it was inhibiting my
50:52
heart or something, they could
50:52
give me a beta blocker or
50:55
something like that. So that's
50:55
one hurdle. I will just get
51:01
lightheaded. On top of not
51:01
always having enough oxygen all
51:08
the time. And then the big one
51:08
is food. I can't eat anything.
51:16
With preservatives in it.
51:20
Anything that's not basically a
51:20
whole food. Right? I found out
51:24
yesterday. I had subway, not the
51:24
bread, the rap. And I bloated up
51:29
till I was like seven months
51:29
pregnant. And it was awful. I
51:32
couldn't breathe. And out of i
51:32
was i was birth the new life
51:40
from restore, they brought me
51:40
back to life. And I had 12
51:46
amazing days. And then just some
51:46
food, threw a wrench in it and
51:52
made me feel like I'm, I'm going
51:52
backwards. So this is I'm still
51:56
walking out a hill. But I know
51:56
what direction I'm I'm walking
52:01
now. And I know I'm not going to
52:01
stop regardless of what happens
52:05
at this point.
52:06  Melissa Bright
So right and for
52:06
you to advocate for yourself.
52:12
This much. Is is probably one of
52:12
the biggest points that I know
52:19
that you want to make. Because
52:19
every time we would talk on
52:23
Facebook, you're like, Melissa,
52:23
these doctors are telling me
52:26
this this is not right. This is
52:26
not making sense. And I knew
52:31
even just you telling me the
52:31
story. I did not realize that
52:34
that many people told you you
52:34
were depressed. I mean, if if
52:39
they could even just hear your
52:39
freakin episode that we did
52:42
February 2, you were on cloud
52:42
nine? I would. I would be like
52:48
how what does he have to be? And
52:48
I'm not. Basically my question
52:52
would be what does he have to be
52:52
depressed about? And I know that
52:55
people can be depressed whether
52:55
they have money, kids marriage,
52:58
whatever, but I just knew that
52:58
was not your case.
53:02  Tim
Nope. Nope. And that
53:02
that's, and I've done a lot of
53:06
social media posting. And
53:06
people. People are like, Why?
53:11
Why are you I get calls? Why are
53:11
you angry? Why are you saying
53:13
this and the other? I'm, I'm not
53:13
angry. And like I said, in our
53:18
last episode, I'm in a boat. I'm
53:18
taking care of my life. But I'll
53:24
be damned if someone gets in my
53:24
boat at all anymore. To has
53:28
anything negative to say, life's
53:28
tough, you have something if you
53:33
if you're going to come tell me
53:33
somebody is getting ready to
53:35
steal me and take my money. Tell
53:35
me, but if you're gonna come up
53:39
and be like, do you know so and
53:39
so's bH? Because she does that?
53:42
Well, you don't know what so and
53:42
so's going through? Right? I had
53:46
people that were close to me,
53:46
staying away from me because
53:49
they thought I was depressed.
53:49
They had no clue. Even though I
53:53
told them I'm not depressed.
53:53
This is what's going on. They're
53:57
staying away saying, oh, he's
53:57
just depressed. Well, not the
54:02
case. And I told you that cared
54:02
for me. He would have done so
54:06
you would have he would show me
54:06
like how you're not depressed. I
54:10
believe you were friends. So
54:10
it's i'm not i'm not saying I'm
54:14
looking at the positive side of
54:14
life. I want to I want to help
54:17
people, but I'm not going to
54:17
allow you to come to me and
54:20
belittle someone else because
54:20
the first thing I'm going to say
54:22
is one either get away from your
54:22
two you probably have no idea
54:26
what that person's going through
54:26
at right now. Like you have no
54:29
clue I look normal, but I was
54:29
dying. Right? Maybe that
54:33
person's died. Maybe that
54:33
person's friend just died or
54:36
they're. You have no clue. Yep,
54:36
yes. I was gonna say something
54:42
and I want it to come back to
54:42
me. I feel like it's just so
54:48
crazy in terms of the like
54:48
anxiety Yes, can cause a lot of
54:53
physical symptoms. I know that
54:53
because I've done that but it
54:58
just infuriates me for For the
54:58
doctors, like you're saying
55:02
chronic headaches, I can't
55:02
breathe physically, you could
55:05
barely get out sentences. And
55:05
all they wanted to say was,
55:08
you're depressed? Like, it
55:08
seems, I guess, obvious to me
55:13
that that wouldn't even be an
55:13
answer.
55:16  Melissa Bright
Like, did they
55:16
even ask you like, have you went
55:19
through something traumatic
55:19
recently? Did something go on?
55:22
Have you lost a job? How's your
55:22
marriage? Like? Did they ask you
55:26
any of these questions like
55:26
that?
55:28  Tim
not that I recall, but this
55:28
just brings me back to a good
55:31
point, that doctor from Mayo,
55:31
that I call them and I was
55:34
suffocating. Before that
55:34
conversation, he called to tell
55:39
me, I had pots and he goes, You
55:39
know what? It's a really good
55:44
thing. You didn't start
55:44
antidepressants, because it
55:46
would have really messed with
55:46
your blood circulation problem.
55:49
I'm like, you. Yeah. Just like I
55:49
don't even know what to say to
55:56
you guys anymore. Thank you for
55:56
telling. And that's that I made
55:59
a post on Facebook. Thank you
55:59
for telling me I'm type A
56:01
personality, because I'm not
56:01
going to be fed. You know, I
56:06
know what's wrong with me, just
56:06
so does everyone else that they
56:08
listen to themselves goes wrong
56:08
with them. But doctors are so
56:12
quick to prescribe. Thanks. So
56:16  Melissa Bright
yeah, I had. So
56:16
there's a guy on one of my
56:18
episodes. His name's Brandon
56:18
Mao. He has type two diabetes,
56:23
type two or type one. And he has
56:23
had to have a something
56:28
transplant. Oh my gosh, I forgot
56:28
what it was. But it he was very
56:34
much on like they said, If you
56:34
do not get this transplant, you
56:37
will die. But he went through a
56:37
hell of a lot of doctors that
56:41
said, we can't do anything for
56:41
you. I'm sorry. Yeah. Did you
56:45
have two years left to live? And
56:45
he? A lot of his point of his
56:49
episode was you have to advocate
56:49
for yourself. You have to speak
56:53
up for yourself when something's
56:53
not right. Just because one
56:56
doctor tells you something you
56:56
keep finding more answers if
57:00
it's not making sense to you.
57:00
And I'm not this isn't to bash
57:04
doctors or anything because a
57:04
lot of doctors know stuff. But
57:08
when it's not adding up to you
57:08
just keep there's no wrong thing
57:13
to keep finding out answers like
57:13
you did just keep pushing, keep
57:16
pushing, keep pushing. That's
57:16
your right, you get to do that.
57:19
And, and you have came through
57:19
so many different hurdles, and
57:23
doctors and appointments and
57:23
every time you just keep
57:29
advocating for yourself. And
57:29
that's a huge thing for people
57:33
to know to take away from this.
57:33
If it's not right to you get a
57:36
second opinion. Ask questions.
57:36
or fourth, the fifth. I mean,
57:41
yeah, not for opinions. And they
57:41
weren't right. So right. Yeah.
57:44
Yeah. So are you completely done
57:44
with the hyperbaric chamber?
57:50  Tim
No. Okay. I went 10 days
57:50
straight. And now I'm going
57:55
every other day. Okay. This
57:55
isn't a doctor's recommendation.
58:00
I'm testing for myself. Yeah,
58:00
nobody knows. So I went every
58:05
day and felt great. So now I'm
58:05
like, let me try every other
58:08
day. Maybe I can wean myself off
58:08
of it. Right? Or stabilize it,
58:13
if you will. So that's where I'm
58:13
at. Now I go every other day.
58:17
Yeah. And, sorry. It's okay. Cuz
58:17
I forgot my question. I that the
58:23
Potts condition that I have. I
58:23
might have to travel to
58:27
California, because they're the
58:27
only place that specializes in
58:33
helping people recover from it.
58:33
So it's, it's so bad the parts
58:41
is that I jumped in the pool on
58:41
Memorial Day. You know, I'm
58:48
starting to breathe better, and
58:48
jumped in the pool and my lungs
58:50
immediately locked up. The
58:50
circulation just stopped. So I
58:53
get out of the pool. My whole
58:53
neighborhood is there, right?
58:58
And again, I don't show weakness
58:58
in front of everyone. So they're
59:00
probably thinking, Oh, Tim's
59:00
back. He's fine. You know, this
59:04
and the other. I jumped in the
59:04
pool. I couldn't breathe. I get
59:07
out. I sit next to one of my
59:07
kids on the recliner, and I'm
59:11
suffocating and it's only
59:11
getting worse. And I got my four
59:14
year old in the pool. I'm like,
59:14
Hey, can you get her out of the
59:16
pool? We got to go. About that
59:16
time. My buddy Herman came up
59:21
and started talking and like,
59:21
Listen, I can't, can't talk
59:24
right now. And this is why I was
59:24
kept putting things on social
59:26
media. If I'm not being rude to
59:26
you, I just can't breathe.
59:30
Right? That's what I've tried to
59:30
tell you. I'm like, I can't
59:33
breathe. You know. And then
59:33
about that time, another buddy
59:36
came up, Jeff, and said, how's
59:36
it going? I'm like, Listen, I
59:39
can't breathe. And I'm like, I
59:39
gotta get out of here because
59:41
I'm not breathing. The anxiety
59:41
starting to climb because I'm
59:45
suffocating. I go to stand up
59:45
and I get real busy life I'm
59:49
gonna pass out and I sit back
59:49
down. And I'm like, I'm gonna
59:54
pass out and I said that and
59:54
they heard it and they go, are
59:56
you okay? I'm a glasses on you
59:56
can't. Again, you can't see
59:59
anything physically. rolling the
59:59
I don't want you to, like get
1:00:02
out of here. And about that
1:00:02
point, like, my breathing was so
1:00:06
bad. I'm now choking. And this
1:00:06
is on Memorial Day after my
1:00:12
breathing is going better. So I
1:00:12
start crying. Because I was
1:00:17
helpless. I mean, I started,
1:00:17
tears just started flying out of
1:00:20
my face, control it. And my wife
1:00:20
came up with my inhaler that
1:00:26
Mayo gave me. And I took the
1:00:26
first one. And it went in and
1:00:30
came right back out. Everything
1:00:30
was shut down. Like if I wasn't
1:00:33
getting an error, oh my god, I
1:00:33
shook it up for another second.
1:00:37
I'm like, I have to get this
1:00:37
thing in. So I hit it again. And
1:00:42
it went a little bit. And I
1:00:42
heard someone say he got a
1:00:44
little bit of that one, because
1:00:44
now everyone's around me, which
1:00:46
is making this worse. They're
1:00:46
all Oh my god, harder. But
1:00:51
everybody's watching me. Right,
1:00:51
you know, basically suffocate,
1:00:55
and I don't like it. So that the
1:00:55
other one got in and I'm like, I
1:00:59
gotta get out of here. And that
1:00:59
that is something I'll never
1:01:04
forget. Because I,
1:01:09
I suffer, I suffer by myself. I
1:01:09
don't want my kids to see me. I
1:01:14
want them to see that I've
1:01:14
crawled out of hell. Because
1:01:16
they've seen the whole thing.
1:01:16
Yeah. But when I would start
1:01:20
suffocating, real bad, I go in
1:01:20
the other room. And I didn't
1:01:24
show it to them. But they
1:01:24
actually
1:01:30
they actually seen it that day.
1:01:30
Right? Bad. And they, my buddy
1:01:37
Jeff had to basically carry me
1:01:37
on the pool, put me in a car, I
1:01:42
went home. And I put on these
1:01:42
compression socks, I put my feet
1:01:47
up for 10 minutes. After 10
1:01:47
minutes, bloods right back to my
1:01:51
lungs, I stand up and I went to
1:01:51
barbecue and the wife goes, What
1:01:54
is wrong with you. And I'm like,
1:01:54
I'm, I'm not going to lay here
1:01:58
and suffer. I got the blood back
1:01:58
to my lungs.
1:02:03
I'm gonna keep moving.
1:02:06
for multiple reasons. One, I
1:02:06
want to show myself I'm tough to
1:02:10
I need to get the blood flow.
1:02:10
And three, I have to do enough
1:02:15
exercise to make myself tired at
1:02:15
night, that insomnia still
1:02:19
laying around there. I've been
1:02:19
sleeping fantastic. But if I
1:02:23
don't get my blood circulating
1:02:23
properly the right way. I won't
1:02:26
sleep. I found that hard way. I
1:02:26
just lay around one day I'm
1:02:29
like, I'm going to relax. Didn't
1:02:29
get the circulation going the
1:02:34
right way didn't sleep at all.
1:02:34
I'm like, Okay, this is one day
1:02:37
we can push past this not 21
1:02:37
days, right? I forgot to let
1:02:43
forgot to tell you a huge detail
1:02:43
play of that rock. When I got
1:02:48
back from Mayo, first or second
1:02:48
time, this would be the second
1:02:59
time my wife's mom had a heart
1:02:59
attack, went to the hospital.
1:03:06
They did open heart surgery. So
1:03:06
now when I come back from Mayo,
1:03:11
I'm now on my own. You know, my
1:03:11
wife's been helping me up to
1:03:15
that point. Stay saying do all
1:03:15
this stuff. She's at the
1:03:20
hospital. I'm not taking care of
1:03:20
my family, my girls and trying
1:03:24
to make sure that I can manage
1:03:24
enough oxygen to get from point
1:03:27
A to point B. Her mom comes from
1:03:27
home home from the hospital and
1:03:32
she has to stay at our house.
1:03:32
Take care of her. So now my wife
1:03:37
has to take care of her mom in
1:03:37
my recliner, the only thing that
1:03:43
I can get comfortable with and I
1:03:43
gave it up willingly. I'm not
1:03:48
saying all this is happening. At
1:03:48
this time, my wife's taking care
1:03:53
of her mom making sure she
1:03:53
doesn't die. I'm trying to make
1:03:56
sure that I get to hyperbaric
1:03:56
chamber so I don't die. And
1:04:01
again, that's my point from the
1:04:01
outside. This all looks normal.
1:04:06
I'm not gonna go
1:04:07
to someone, a neighbor or a
1:04:07
friend, or just anyone I don't
1:04:11
know and say, Hey, I'm
1:04:11
suffering. This is what I'm
1:04:14
going through. I'm gonna fucking
1:04:14
walk through it. And then when I
1:04:18
get out, I'm gonna say this is
1:04:18
how I got out of it. And I'm
1:04:21
going to share it with you.
1:04:21
Right, but people are like,
1:04:23
Well, why don't you talk about
1:04:23
it? I'm like, what I'm going
1:04:26
through it like, I don't know
1:04:26
what to say. It's hard. I feel
1:04:33
crazy. Most days still. I still
1:04:33
question if the doctor was
1:04:38
right, if it's just all in my
1:04:38
head. Even after seeing the test
1:04:42
results, I still have all these
1:04:42
things running through my head.
1:04:47
It's just it's just a lot.
1:04:49  Melissa Bright
So yeah, I think
1:04:49
to some degree when you've been
1:04:56
dealing with this since February
1:04:56
17 At some point, you had to get
1:05:01
fucking depressed because of all
1:05:01
the pain and suffering and no
1:05:05
breathing. Yeah, maybe at some
1:05:05
point, you obviously did. But
1:05:10
that wasn't this wasn't the
1:05:10
spark like depression didn't
1:05:14
spark all of this. Absolutely.
1:05:14
Like, absolutely. That's
1:05:18
something huge so maybe now when
1:05:18
you who that hell would not be
1:05:23
depressed when I was going
1:05:23
through my anxiety stuff. before
1:05:28
April before I went crazy and
1:05:28
literally went to the hospital
1:05:32
something for two weeks, my body
1:05:32
was in physical stomach cramps
1:05:37
pain, I would wake up be fine in
1:05:37
two hours later, I had zero
1:05:40
energy, like my anxiety was
1:05:40
attacking my body for almost 14
1:05:45
days straight. Yeah, that can
1:05:45
easily make somebody depressed
1:05:48
because you're like, What? What
1:05:48
is going on? I just want to feel
1:05:52
normal have normal energy
1:05:52
levels. So that was no worry,
1:05:56
even compared to what you are
1:05:56
going through that that has to
1:06:00
take a toll on you mentally, you
1:06:00
know, there's no way that it
1:06:04
could and you are a very
1:06:04
mentally strong person, like,
1:06:10
well, let's just say that we we
1:06:10
know that you have came very far
1:06:14
in your life. So for this to
1:06:14
happen. And then just to say
1:06:18
that is crazy. But yeah, at some
1:06:18
point you you had to have I know
1:06:24
something I do want to talk
1:06:24
about with you. You said that
1:06:28
meditation has been a huge part
1:06:28
of this. So can we talk about
1:06:34
what you why you decided to
1:06:34
start meditating? What kind of
1:06:39
that looks like for you? Because
1:06:39
I know everybody's meditation
1:06:41
process looks differently, how
1:06:41
has that helped you? I just want
1:06:45
listeners to kind of hear your
1:06:45
story about that. So mine,
1:06:50  Tim
I literally fell into
1:06:50
meditation. Say that, by that,
1:06:54
that walk that I told you that I
1:06:54
tried to do on my road, I would
1:07:00
try to do it. And then one day,
1:07:00
I tried to do it, and I came
1:07:02
back and the kids were outside.
1:07:02
And I'm like, I'm going to be
1:07:05
dead. I'm going to walk up and
1:07:05
you know, hang out with kids and
1:07:07
stuff like that. And I'm
1:07:07
suffocating shit. So I look at
1:07:12
my wife, and I'm like, get kids,
1:07:12
I'm going inside, I went inside,
1:07:15
and everything was shut off.
1:07:15
Like there's no breathing
1:07:18
happening. I don't know what why
1:07:18
it was so severe. I laid face
1:07:22
first on the ground, thinking
1:07:22
I'm dying, and I put my head to
1:07:26
the side. And I put my arms out.
1:07:26
And then I just tried sucking
1:07:29
breath as much as I could nice
1:07:29
and slow, nice and cow. I've
1:07:34
tried meditation in the past, I
1:07:34
got bored with it moved on. I
1:07:38
did that for 20 minutes. And
1:07:38
then my lung slowly started
1:07:42
gathering enough oxygen to get
1:07:42
back up. So then I started
1:07:47
looking into meditation, I'm
1:07:47
actually getting my meditation
1:07:50
license right now. But so my
1:07:50
meditation practice, and it's a
1:07:54
practice. It's your brains like
1:07:54
a muscle. And you can you can
1:08:00
grow it and train it through
1:08:00
through breathing exercises.
1:08:03
When I wake up in the morning,
1:08:03
the first thing I do now, as
1:08:08
soon as I wake, as soon as my
1:08:08
eyes open up, I put my hands on
1:08:11
my stomach, and I do 10 minutes
1:08:11
of diaphragm, breathing,
1:08:15
breathing real deep. And then I
1:08:15
breathe out. And I do that for
1:08:19
10 minutes. And I don't try to
1:08:19
control my thoughts. I just
1:08:23
follow them where they go. They
1:08:23
go somewhere that I don't like,
1:08:27
I'm like, Hey, listen, I'm just
1:08:27
breathing during this exercise.
1:08:30
So I'm just drawing attention to
1:08:30
the thoughts that I don't like,
1:08:34
still early in this process of
1:08:34
meditation. But that's, that's
1:08:39
what I do. First first thing in
1:08:39
the day, and then sometime later
1:08:44
in the afternoon, I'll take 10
1:08:44
minutes to myself, where I'll
1:08:47
just focus on my breathing
1:08:47
because I am crazy. I tried to
1:08:53
go straight back into my job
1:08:53
right away, which is very high
1:08:58
paced. So I make sure that I
1:08:58
find time to sit and meditate to
1:09:04
realize that
1:09:07
I'm okay. Everything's fine. And
1:09:07
it brings me back down and kind
1:09:11
of just, it anchors me back
1:09:11
down. Yeah, in a way with my
1:09:15
thoughts. Right. Exactly. And,
1:09:15
and one thing that and I haven't
1:09:19
done too much of meditating, but
1:09:19
something that was really easing
1:09:23
to my mind that I learned about
1:09:23
meditating is everybody thinks
1:09:26
that you are just supposed to be
1:09:26
laser focused that your mind
1:09:29
isn't going to wander anywhere.
1:09:29
No, it is, and you're gonna hear
1:09:32
the dog barking and you're gonna
1:09:32
hear a bird chirping, you just
1:09:35
practice, keep coming back, keep
1:09:35
coming back that is just like
1:09:39
keep coming back to the present
1:09:39
time because that's almost a
1:09:42
thing. It's like, life is
1:09:42
constantly filled with
1:09:45
distractions and all this stuff.
1:09:45
And the whole thing with
1:09:48
meditation as you're trying to
1:09:48
come back to either your
1:09:51
breathing, mode, breathing and
1:09:51
just bringing you back to the
1:09:54
present and back to your
1:09:54
foundation to build off of yeah
1:10:00
And you said everything
1:10:00
beautifully, just don't. Don't
1:10:03
get upset by I have ADD or add
1:10:03
whatever it is, was faster than
1:10:09
anyone I've ever met in my life
1:10:09
by not getting upset by going
1:10:14
faster just bringing myself back
1:10:14
to breath. Yeah. Is the plant
1:10:19
and I'll Pratt and like I said
1:10:19
I'm getting my license I'm going
1:10:22
to teach people I want to impact
1:10:22
people greatly that way because
1:10:29
I mean it took me from
1:10:29
suffocating, depressed anxious
1:10:32
to I'm no longer depressed. High
1:10:32
five still have some some
1:10:39
anxiety just because I don't
1:10:39
know when I'm going to stop
1:10:45
breathing, isn't it? I'm feel
1:10:45
great most of the time. Right?
1:10:51
When it shuts off. It's like
1:10:51
crap. I don't want to be far
1:10:54
away from home. Hey, do you guys
1:10:54
mind if I stick my feet up for a
1:10:58
little bit at your
1:10:58
establishment? Because I don't
1:11:00
read well, you know? Yeah. Still
1:11:00
a lot of unknowns for you, that
1:11:06
you? Correct. You don't know
1:11:06
what's going to happen, right?
1:11:09
But meditation gives me gives me
1:11:09
strength. So which is crazy.
1:11:15
I've always been a workout
1:11:15
Holic. Now meditating, like
1:11:19
crazy, I mean, twice a day, but
1:11:19
I plan on making it expand
1:11:22
longer and longer to where I
1:11:22
can. Because I want to help
1:11:27
people. Like I said, the last
1:11:27
podcast just like you help
1:11:29
people. Yeah. That that saved my
1:11:29
life. So one of the That's
1:11:35
awesome. Okay, so a couple just
1:11:35
a couple more questions. Where
1:11:41
have you left in terms of the
1:11:41
Mayo Clinic clinic? Is it still
1:11:44
the will follow up with you in
1:11:44
July? And so I like this. On my
1:11:51
10th session, I emailed the
1:11:51
doctor. And I said, I sent last
1:11:58
row like I was suffocating The
1:11:58
last time we talked and you said
1:12:01
follow the course I said, I'm
1:12:01
now on my 10th hyperbaric
1:12:05
chamber therapy session. And
1:12:05
it's working phenomenal. As
1:12:10
like, if you really care about
1:12:10
other people. Please suggest
1:12:14
this because I asked him three
1:12:14
times when I was up there to do
1:12:16
it. He said no, all three times.
1:12:16
Very Why did he say no? He said
1:12:21
that there's 14 triggers that
1:12:21
will get you into hyperbaric
1:12:24
chamber and long hollers is not
1:12:24
one of them yet. burn victims.
1:12:30
There's other things but I
1:12:30
didn't I didn't fit that
1:12:32
criteria to get into their Oh,
1:12:32
to the Mayo Clinic. Correct.
1:12:37
Gotcha. But you could do it on
1:12:37
your own. There was no harm.
1:12:40
They weren't like don't do this
1:12:40
or you're going to be harmed or
1:12:42
anything? No, no, all they did
1:12:42
was give me a basis that I'm
1:12:46
healthy. So I I'm healthy. I'm
1:12:46
going to try the chamber
1:12:50
therapy. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Just
1:12:50
wanted to make sure. Okay, so
1:12:54
you emailed him. You said,
1:12:54
Please suggest this to other
1:12:57
people told him please. You said
1:12:57
please recommend this two people
1:13:01
if you can. So, yes, actually,
1:13:01
the word if you care. But yeah.
1:13:06
Oh, yes. Yes, yes. Absolutely.
1:13:06
Yep. I forgot what the question.
1:13:13
Oh, yeah. So the question was,
1:13:13
is, are you still following up
1:13:17
with mayo clinic? Are you done
1:13:17
with them? Where's it going from
1:13:20
here? Oh, gotcha. So no, I told
1:13:20
them cancel all my appointments
1:13:23
moving forward. I have some in
1:13:23
July follow up. But they're
1:13:29
gonna they're just going to ask
1:13:29
questions on how you're feeling.
1:13:32
And it's going to cost a
1:13:32
tremendous amount of money,
1:13:34
right? Your drugs you prescribe
1:13:34
me made it worse. Unless you
1:13:41
have anything additional to add.
1:13:41
I'm going to pursue this on my
1:13:44
own. And I'll find answers from
1:13:44
someone else. Like, my wife's
1:13:48
been looking at places in
1:13:48
California that deal with pots,
1:13:53
and can help me with that. So we
1:13:53
may look at that. But for now,
1:13:57
I'm continuing with hyperbaric
1:13:57
chamber therapy, which I got a
1:14:01
big shout out to them, because
1:14:01
they literally allowed me to
1:14:05
have this podcast with you. It
1:14:05
would have been not an hour
1:14:10
long, it would have been three
1:14:10
hours long because each word
1:14:13
would have been oh my gosh,
1:14:19  Melissa Bright
so did you ever
1:14:19
get a reply from the doctor when
1:14:22
you sent that email?
1:14:23  Tim
No, of course not. Nope.
1:14:23
And he wasn't the original
1:14:27
doctor that I reached out to
1:14:27
Sure. The original one made.
1:14:31
We're gonna we're gonna help
1:14:31
you. This is what we do here.
1:14:34
Yeah, I met with this guy. And
1:14:34
he was not gonna say that
1:14:39
because I have friends that do
1:14:39
that. You know, he was a
1:14:42
salesperson. So yeah, okay.
1:14:42
Yeah. Wow.
1:14:47  Melissa Bright
So you're you're
1:14:47
doing this on your own now. And
1:14:52
you're going to potentially go
1:14:52
to California to find out about
1:14:55
the pot stuff. pots, not pot,
1:14:55
not marijuana, not metal. Just
1:15:00
to be clear. Oh, man, my
1:15:00
thoughts. I'm not smoking the
1:15:08
pot. Right, exactly, exactly.
1:15:08
Okay, I'm trying to think. So,
1:15:15
to wrap this all up, and have
1:15:15
nice little pretty bow. What
1:15:21
would you like listeners to know
1:15:21
about your experience with long
1:15:28
haulers, with doctors with being
1:15:28
in hell with physical, mental,
1:15:33
whatever it is, what would you
1:15:33
like people to know?
1:15:38  Tim
Um, want the first thing
1:15:38
and I've already put on social
1:15:41
media trust yourself, first and
1:15:41
foremost, to everyone's either,
1:15:49
and this is how I had it in my
1:15:49
mind going through it, everyone
1:15:51
is either in a storm, or they
1:15:51
just stepped out of a store. So
1:15:56
everyone's dealing with shit at
1:15:56
some level. And as I'm at the
1:16:02
gym the other day, I'm working
1:16:02
out every other day now. And
1:16:05
it's not something that I'm
1:16:05
proud of my workouts, I'm proud
1:16:09
that I'm working out. But it's
1:16:09
not a great one anyway. And I'm
1:16:13
like, you're going slow, because
1:16:13
you're in rehab right now. And I
1:16:18
have allowed myself to think
1:16:18
that way to the end of June. And
1:16:21
it might take July or August.
1:16:21
Anyway, my point was, even
1:16:26
before this happened, I was at
1:16:26
the gym everyday still trying to
1:16:30
better myself. So I'm doing what
1:16:30
I would, what I was doing before
1:16:33
is the same thing I'm doing in
1:16:33
rehab, like we're all trying to
1:16:36
better ourselves. And if you're
1:16:36
not trying to better yourself,
1:16:42
you're probably a super negative
1:16:42
person and or a hindrance to
1:16:46
someone else's life. And that's,
1:16:46
that's, I had to understand that
1:16:51
for myself, because of all that
1:16:51
negative talk that was going
1:16:54
around me. So my whole thing is
1:16:54
we're all going through rehab,
1:16:59
and we're all trying to better
1:16:59
ourselves and live. That's that
1:17:02
we're all going through it. So
1:17:02
no person is better than the
1:17:05
other. And I've shared this a
1:17:05
couple times, but just be kind
1:17:10
to people. Because you could be
1:17:10
like they could be where I was
1:17:14
no longer wanting to do this
1:17:14
anymore. And like I give out dad
1:17:19
jokes freely, but your dad joke
1:17:19
could save someone's life. Your
1:17:22
smile could save someone's life,
1:17:22
like any of that could somebody
1:17:26
could be in the worst spot ever.
1:17:26
And you just showing some
1:17:30
affection towards them could
1:17:30
give them hope. So yeah, that's
1:17:34
what I've learned through all
1:17:34
this.
1:17:36  Melissa Bright
Absolutely. And,
1:17:36
you know, I I'm always listening
1:17:39
to podcasts and reading books,
1:17:39
and I am about to read a book
1:17:44
that Oprah Winfrey, and a
1:17:44
psychiatrist just released. And
1:17:50
the book is called. I think it's
1:17:50
called what happened to you. And
1:17:56
the whole basis is, everybody is