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episode 24: Learn Boxing: Raging Bulls*%t [transcript]



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 2021-06-20  41m
 
 
00:00  intro
You're listening to amid
00:00
life less ordinary, the weekly
00:05
podcast giving you the lowdown
00:05
on becoming a cool older dude.
00:11
The good times are not afraid of
00:11
memory. It's time to start
00:15
loving them again. And here are
00:15
your hosts Wayne and crab. Yeah,
00:23
hello
00:23  Wayne
and welcome to another a
00:23
midlife less ordinary. And this
00:26
episode is entitled learned
00:26
boxing, Raging Bullshit. Don't
00:31
know why we called it that. I
00:31
know have clubber trif. Stand in
00:34
ringside. What's your prediction
00:34
for this podcast? club trip?
00:39  Trev
prediction? Yes prediction
00:42
pain
00:44  Wayne
rocky free
00:46  Trev
rocky free
00:47  Wayne
Yeah, Rocky free or rocky
00:47
for
00:50  Trev
rocky free?
00:52  Wayne
I think I agree with you,
00:52
although they're both fun. And
00:55
they're both
00:55  Trev
great movies. Yeah, in
00:55
that kind of genre. He said Why
00:58
would you Why do you think I
00:58
said rocketry
01:02  Wayne
because of clubber Lang,
01:02
clubber Lang, yeah. clubber Lang
01:07
because what you've always is
01:07
what you've done your tribute to
01:09
him at the start you know,
01:10  Trev
he's he's wrong. He says
01:10
Rome goes cold dry goes cold.
01:15
Yeah, we all are that I will
01:15
break you. Yes, we will die. We
01:18
love that.
01:18  Wayne
You said like, you could
01:18
be using the Kabbalah coffee
01:21
that
01:21  Trev
say that? Yeah, I just say
01:21
that you don't need to pay him
01:24
to be a correspondent anymore.
01:24
Exactly. When we if we happen to
01:28
talk to him again or get him to
01:28
do a draw. Go talk to him in
01:31
Russian. You did actually last
01:33  Wayne
Hello. But you know
01:33
they're moving on. We're not
01:36
doing we're not doing movies
01:36
because we've done that as well.
01:40
But this one is literally what
01:40
we've set out to be it's learned
01:43
boxing. We've got Glenn from
01:43
glove up club is a qualified
01:47
boxing coach offensive. I've
01:47
always fancied doing boxing
01:50
dread what do you what do you
01:50
think about boxing?
01:52  Trev
Yeah, yeah, I can see age
01:52
for the fitness side of it. I
01:56
think me and you are more kind
01:56
of like David Coleman and Harry
01:59
Carpenter who's on transfers and
01:59
all I've all I've all I've the
02:07
David Coleman you can be Harry
02:07
Calvin.
02:09  Wayne
We're both not around
02:09
anymore are they? Not? There
02:14
isn't any advantage to any of
02:14
them really? Don't move on from
02:18
that. Yeah, we will be there
02:18
wherever I'll be reaching. So
02:24
yeah, hopefully 10 could be at
02:24
tell us all about learning
02:26
boxing. What will freakin take
02:26
up boxing now. There's rumours
02:31
of the you know there might be
02:31
an upcoming fight between
02:34
clubber Trev.
02:35  Trev
About about not a fight
02:35
about about
02:38  Unknown
the lingo right? You've
02:39
been doing your ego get the
02:39
lingo right. Good. Yeah.
02:42  Wayne
My bow down about about
02:42
well, as long as you don't go on
02:45
about battering rings. That's
02:45
all I care about.
02:48  Trev
Yeah, you're not gonna
02:48
give free we're not gonna get
02:51
through without that any? At
02:51
least twice. Exactly. Yeah, it
02:55
probably is.
02:56  Wayne
I don't think we've got
02:56
to stop Glenn from being speak
02:58
about. We'll push him that way.
02:58
We'll see how we go.
03:01  Trev
Big Guy. big guys looking
03:01
to maybe push you back. Yeah.
03:06  Wayne
Yeah. Okay. We'll be good
03:06
to you Glen. So yeah, claim from
03:10
glove up club. Glen can do train
03:10
you to be a boxer will keep the
03:14
fitness from boxing. I mean,
03:14
it's phenomenal. It's one of the
03:16
most fit sports you can do. And
03:16
if I if I didn't feel so
03:20
lumbering and out of shape and
03:20
everything because we've been
03:23
very lumbering because the word
03:23
you'd use? Yeah, well, I'm not
03:28
quick on the feet. You know your
03:28
light on your toes on you. I am.
03:32  Trev
Laughter me. Yeah.
03:36  Wayne
Yeah.
03:39  Trev
Yeah, but yeah, dreams in
03:39
the morning. window. Flash
03:42  Wayne
boy, boxing, order
03:42
running the stamina. When you
03:46
get in a fight. There's nothing
03:46
like that adrenalin rush. You
03:49
get that? You know, you burn out
03:49
in about 10 seconds drove it? I
03:53
mean, you're always fighting for
03:53
one or the other. You always get
03:57
in fights, so you must
03:57
understand.
03:59  Trev
Yeah, yeah, I don't get
03:59
that to be honest. And there's a
04:03
short fuse to short fuse Maybe
04:06  Wayne
it comes across like
04:06
that. Yes, he does. He always
04:09
lives in it with me. I don't
04:09
know why but
04:11  Trev
yeah, he's only Yeah,
04:11
yeah, there's especially for
04:13
this one.
04:14  Wayne
It's getting a bit
04:14
serious. I'm looking at him. But
04:17
this is white collar boxing
04:17
trend coming on now is a bit
04:20
like Fight Club. And if he's one
04:20
of them,
04:22  Trev
yeah, you know, one of
04:22
them. Yeah. And
04:26  Wayne
I don't know if offence
04:26
it I don't like the Fight Club
04:28
thing. Really just going to get
04:28
better just to make yourself
04:30
feel better about everything
04:30
else in your life.
04:31  Unknown
Why are you talking
04:31
about it? Because I just
04:35
finished rotor Fight Club.
04:36  Wayne
I was the first one.
04:36
Okay. And it's the second one. I
04:38
know. Yes. I want to get out and
04:38
you're talking about it? Yes.
04:43
I'm gonna its own its own menu
04:43
in the back. But I knew I'd push
04:48
you to it, you would. with no
04:48
further ado, we go over to Glen.
04:52
Glen, welcome to the show. So
04:52
Glen, thank you for joining us
04:56
today. You are the owner I guess
04:56
and the operator Club up club.
05:00
Can you tell us what the club
05:00
club is about Glenn and the
05:03
background etc? Yeah, sure.
05:03
Thanks
05:06  Glen
for having me on guys for
05:06
the pleasure, no problem. What
05:10
it is, it started off to me I've
05:10
always been involved in fighting
05:12
ever since I was a young kid.
05:12
It's huge benefits come from it.
05:18
And when my eldest son was
05:18
started getting into it, and he
05:23
was arguing, you train me down,
05:23
I took him to a few gyms and he
05:28
would sit on the floor training
05:28
with you and I thought to
05:30
myself, I don't think I am fully
05:30
equipped to actually provide the
05:34
best training for him. So that
05:34
sort of sparked my knowledge
05:36
into training into how to
05:36
structure lessons and it's sort
05:39
of sparked from there really and
05:39
I've just absolutely fallen in
05:42
love with it started taking on
05:42
more clients and it's just grown
05:45
from there it's blown up
05:47  Trev
because you're you're
05:47
qualified PT are new as well.
05:50  Glen
Yeah, I started off. I
05:50
mean, I've always been involved
05:54
in fitness. I joined the army
05:54
when I was seven eight. And I
05:58
represented the army doing
05:58
powerlifting strongman and
06:02
combined service levels I was
06:02
taking on the Air Force and Navy
06:05
and stuff like that. So I was a
06:05
bit of a Chunky Monkey shall we
06:07
say?
06:13  Trev
We just we just
06:20  Glen
said that's where I've
06:20
always had a fitness background.
06:22
I've worked in the gym in bits
06:22
and bobs like that and so it
06:27
sort of grew from there. And
06:27
when I come out there why'd you
06:29
get yourself in package where
06:29
you get a good cup of ground to
06:33
spend on what you want and I was
06:33
knew exactly what I wanted and I
06:36
went straight for the high end
06:36
deployment and personal training
06:39
and it took me to quite advanced
06:39
sort of you know, injury
06:43
prevention stuff like that. And
06:43
then when my next qualification
06:47
got there was a coaching
06:47
qualification where it was how
06:50
to look after the athlete the
06:50
mindset of the athlete talks
06:53
about performance enhancing
06:53
drugs, how to deal with social
06:55
media how to deal with the media
06:55
and how to get funding for your
06:59
sport how to you know, you're
06:59
covered you name it really
07:02
really
07:03  Trev
detailed and deep in it to
07:03
be honest Glenn? It really is
07:06
Yeah. I'm no I would never
07:06
thought it would cover stuff
07:10
like that. I really wouldn't but
07:10
then he saw all in a lot of that
07:13
it's in the mind isn't it?
07:13
That's the wine and yeah, that's
07:19
the thing is willpower and mind
07:19
over matter, isn't it? So
07:23
dealing with injuries and pain?
07:23
Yeah, I never really thought
07:26
about that I really didn't
07:26
notice like something else
07:29
there.
07:30  Glen
Yeah. And then after that
07:30
I then I went on to my immediate
07:36
boxing coach qualification and
07:36
and I'm literally my next one up
07:41
is going to be my advanced
07:41
boxing coaches which I'm still
07:44
debating whether to do that post
07:44
COVID just so I can get my hands
07:48
on in the gym and interact with
07:48
people again or if I if I am
07:51
impatient, which more likely is
07:51
going to be me I will just do it
07:54
offline online. So that's where
07:54
I'm at the mind and
07:58
qualification wise.
08:01  Wayne
You coach an inside like
08:01
you got like a club blend and or
08:07
do you train also externally in
08:07
parks etc?
08:11  Glen
Yeah, I mean, we've at the
08:11
moment I've got my own I hate
08:13
this. I don't know why I hate
08:13
this or that or we're you know,
08:16
I've got my own Fitness Studio I
08:16
hate when people say
08:21  Trev
hairdressing studio Yeah,
08:24  Wayne
that's the main problem
08:34  Trev
number one client wind
08:34
Yeah, I've got money wasted see
08:37
when ya know that money and
08:37
nearly blew it but I talked him
08:40
into doing the head masala
08:40
because he doesn't like he's got
08:43
he got his first client as well,
08:43
which is good.
08:48  Wayne
But they say Glenn about
08:48
taking kids off the street with
08:51
boxing and obviously, I'm
08:51
guessing you know, kids that
08:54
live in urban areas and
08:54
everything there's a lot of
08:56
aggression pent up and and they
08:56
need to get it is that what they
08:59
mean by that? When when
08:59
obviously they go boxing is that
09:01
discipline you need to carry it
09:01
out?
09:04  Glen
Definitely. It's a way of
09:04
channelling. I mean, at the end
09:06
of the day, fighters are going
09:06
to fight. So Isn't it better to
09:10
get them off the street? I mean,
09:10
the less the more I used to
09:13
fight the less I what I felt
09:13
like I had to prove it to people
09:16
is weird. It's like the more
09:16
efficient at fighting I become,
09:18
the less I The more I could
09:18
someone could call me or Excuse
09:21
My French like a wangka to my
09:21
face. And I think I can get over
09:25
it. I can look past that because
09:25
I know I can efficiently handle
09:28
myself. It's like let's act to
09:28
prove and I think this is this
09:30
current thing with a knife
09:30
carrying you know, it's no one
09:34
wants to be seen as weak. No one
09:34
wants to back down. If you lose,
09:37
they normally come back with a
09:37
knife because they can't deal
09:40
with, you know, shaking and
09:40
stuff. Yeah, it's
09:42  Trev
an ego thing, isn't it?
09:42
Glenn? Definitely. Your ego
09:46
takes over.
09:47  Glen
Definitely. And the way
09:47
this is I always struggle with
09:50
this when people say to me, oh,
09:50
what's your sort of clientele
09:53
who you ask that you try and say
09:53
you're off to young lads without
10:00  Unknown
Yeah, that's
10:00  Trev
a good tagline.
10:02  Glen
I'm having difficulty at
10:02
home. Are you saying?
10:10  Trev
Exactly, yeah. Yeah,
10:10
that's not sort of thing to have
10:13
on yourself business card is
10:18  Wayne
when is the best time for
10:18
somebody to start to maximise
10:21
their boxing skills Glenn for
10:21
you know, I suppose as early as
10:24
possible, isn't it?
10:26  Glen
Definitely. I mean, if you
10:26
come into boxing, it's 16. And
10:31
then you go against the lab
10:31
that's been fighting since he
10:34
was five or six, obviously,
10:34
there's going to be there's
10:37
going to be that knowledge gap
10:37
because it just is it's a career
10:40
it's not like I'm going to do a
10:40
box of course and now the box is
10:43
2030 years of learning something
10:43
every day a little bit, get a
10:46
little bit better, right? So
10:46
there is going to be that gap
10:49
but I've always honestly
10:49
believed that it doesn't matter
10:51
you could walk into the gym
10:51
tomorrow and be off the gym by
10:53
hard work natural abilities
10:53
talent it's never too late. So
10:59
if you're you know the back end
10:59
of it if you're in your 30s 40s
11:02
and thinking about Mike's give
11:02
that a go but I swear to god
11:06
walking Fungineer is boxing Jiu,
11:06
what can we bring? If you're
11:08
local to the area hook me up?
11:08
It's never ever too late.
11:12  Trev
I'm glad you came because
11:12
that's what all these podcasts
11:15
is about, about taking up new
11:15
and different things. So you
11:20
virtually just did all the
11:20
chores they might. Yeah,
11:25
exactly. That's brilliant.
11:26  Glen
It's so true, though. He
11:26
it's never too late. I mean, I
11:30
mean, I'll tell you a bit about
11:30
myself. I'm 32 at the moment and
11:33
I literally plan on fighting
11:33
till I'm 5060 or wherever until
11:39
the ticket gives out if I was to
11:39
die in the room and I sound
11:41
dramatic. If I were to die in
11:41
the ring and I'll be fine with
11:43
crying Don't cry because I went
11:43
out doing why I love it. It's
11:49
never too late and there's
11:49
there's a there's a there's a
11:51
level for everyone. Like you it
11:51
doesn't matter if you're the
11:54
worst part in the world there is
11:54
a platform for you somewhere
11:56
where there's someone of equal
11:56
talent equal age equal weight
11:59
class who will match you up and
11:59
you can friends and family who
12:02
comes in you can train hard keep
12:02
getting paid and there's a fight
12:05
for you somewhere.
12:07  Trev
So what you've what's your
12:11  Wayne
What have you basically
12:11
won Glen boxing, what have you
12:15  Glen
Well, I can't come by so
12:15
maybe
12:18  Wayne
you should have to pitch
12:18
that differently should know I
12:20
should have said
12:21  Glen
I've done it I've done a
12:21
few shoots a bare knuckle bits
12:24
and bobs which do not talk about
12:24
But yeah, I have actually. But
12:33
you know, I'm open to a whole
12:33
new world but long story short,
12:35
I grew up with traveller family
12:35
where you know, fighting was
12:42
just like having a cup of tea.
12:42
So it's just the way we've
12:46
always done it but I wanted I
12:46
want to get my kids into the in
12:50
the room basically. Doing that
12:50
side of things.
12:54  Wayne
I think I saw one of your
12:54
children in a video that on your
12:57
page blend with smacking jabbing
12:57
basically pretty hard for a
13:01
young lead smacking, taking the
13:01
hell out of you old in the pads.
13:06
Yeah.
13:08  Glen
Yeah, he loves it and I
13:08
mean at first it was you know
13:11
the odd bit here and there and
13:11
now we start to ask me When can
13:14
we try and next really nice,
13:14
really nice to see and I for a
13:19
mutual friend. There's Hockley
13:19
Boxing Club.
13:22  Unknown
Yes,
13:24  Glen
they are. They've they're
13:24
really good stepping stone for
13:27
young lads. I would recommend
13:27
that to anyone. They've had a
13:29
few of their fighters go on to
13:29
be quiet. quite high level, you
13:34
know, and they really support
13:34
young fighters in there. If
13:37
you've got a young guy who's
13:37
keen to fight that's the gym to
13:40
go to. Yes. I personally buy out
13:40
of the locker room in the south
13:45
end. I made it all the way up to
13:45
my first bite in the room. And
13:52
then the day of the COVID day of
13:52
lockdown.
13:55  Unknown
Cheers. Good.
13:56  Glen
Yeah. So it was stressful.
13:56
You build
14:00  Wayne
up to that. Don't you go
14:00
new you prepare yourself
14:02
mentally to get in the ring.
14:02
You're ready to go. It's pulled
14:04
away.
14:06  Unknown
Yeah.
14:08  Trev
I saw a cleaner.
14:10  Glen
Yes, a fight night was the
14:10
day of when the country went
14:12
into lockdown. And we went out
14:12
on the drink and stayed because
14:14
we saw the fires. We all just
14:14
sort of didn't know what to do
14:17
of ourselves. We hadn't drunk in
14:17
months, we trained so hard. And
14:22
then we didn't come about but
14:22
I'm keen to get back in soon as
14:27
possible since the locker room
14:27
opens again,
14:29  Trev
with with your training
14:29
claim with the box in the
14:33
talking to the mental side a
14:33
little bit earlier, do you
14:37
because It must be hard for like
14:37
it would be hard for someone
14:40
like myself to actually hit
14:40
another person. So when you kind
14:46
of train people to sort of train
14:46
them to handle that side of it.
14:53
Does that make sense? So my
14:55  Glen
Yeah, I mean, everyone's
14:55
different. It's hard to put For
15:00
me personally, I've always had
15:00
an attraction to fight and
15:03
obsession would be a problem of
15:03
a better word to use. But I've
15:07
always been obsessed with
15:07
fighting on shape or form. Like
15:10
I if I weren't fighting, I'd be
15:10
on YouTube watching fights in
15:13
the street. I mean, you know, my
15:13
wife thought there was something
15:15
wrong with me. She said, there's
15:15
something wrong with this
15:17
obsessive. It's almost sick.
15:17
It's like a sickness in me. And
15:23
it's the sport keeps me you
15:23
know?
15:27  Wayne
Which is good to be
15:27
honest, isn't it? That's a good
15:29
message. To be honest. You've
15:29
never seen us on such good
15:31
behaviour even since the guy we
15:31
spoke to from Russia was on the
15:35
other way. From the KGB. Were on
15:35
my best behaviour today. I've
15:39
noticed. Yeah.
15:43  Unknown
Yeah. You blame it on.
15:48  Trev
But yeah, I'd say that's
15:48
the thing I think mentally I
15:53
would struggle with, I think,
15:53
help me was if they put a
15:59
pitcher of wines face on
15:59
whatever. I could just pummelled
16:03
you could only improve on that.
16:03
But yeah, I could actually I
16:06
could really go.
16:07  Wayne
Actually, I'm gonna I'm
16:07
gonna ask Laney I'm gonna ask
16:09
his opinion. But then you've got
16:09
Trevor, who was known as the cat
16:13
when he played football in golf,
16:13
because he had quick reflexes
16:16
and he likes his running and
16:16
everything. And he got me who's
16:18
strong and sort of, you know, 17
16:18
stone. And, you know, not very
16:23
quick, but you know, got that
16:23
who would win? Oh,
16:28  Glen
I like questions.
16:31  Trev
Remember, quick lab. How'd
16:31
y'all play? No.
16:34  Wayne
metaphorical trip so
16:34
people can work out what kind of
16:36
boxes
16:37  Glen
in if it was in a ring
16:37
with a ref and sets of rules? I
16:42
think that trip would win. If it
16:42
was Thorpe's street by wine,
16:51
wine.
16:53  Wayne
Really sat on the fence
16:53
with that one. I like that.
17:00  Trev
Yeah, yeah. What wine what
17:00
are the reason wine balled up
17:03
because you really do a good
17:03
batter in random ring.
17:08  Wayne
He always goes down this
17:08
road. Sorry about this, Glen.
17:13
But yeah,
17:13  Glen
that reminds me put me in
17:13
that tub. That massage parlour.
17:16
Definitely.
17:18  Trev
He's amazing. We can get
17:18
out of it. It really is. It's
17:21
kind of
17:23  Wayne
and talking of batterien
17:23
ring. Not that has anything to
17:25
do with it. But I was just
17:25
wondering, Glen, if you'd like
17:28
to take part in our weekly quiz
17:28
called tester guest just a bit
17:32
of fun. Yes. Standby for our
17:32
little jungle.
17:37  Glen
I've never been good at
17:37
tests. But yeah, now
17:39  Wayne
it's all it's all fun. As
17:39
you know, I'll go out of my way
17:42
to make Trevor say something
17:42
silly. Don't worry about that.
17:46
Don't worry about that. But
17:46
here's our little doodle.
17:49  Unknown
A be
17:54  Wayne
the secret's out now
17:54
don't tell it there we go.
17:58  Unknown
test. The test, test
17:58
test test.
18:07  Wayne
Sorry about that. But we
18:07
don't have
18:12  Unknown
that recorded live
18:12
because that would be
18:15
impressive. We'd
18:16  Wayne
be we'd be Allah, Allah
18:16
Jones on singing the snowman and
18:20  Trev
grabbing on to your
18:20
testicles.
18:26  Wayne
First question to you
18:26
Glenn. I think this is a nice
18:29
one for you to start and this
18:29
one is actually multiple choice
18:31
the rest I'll just won't even
18:31
give Trevor an inkling of an
18:33
answer but what boxing weight
18:33
class is the heaviest from
18:37
these? Is it fly away Bantam
18:37
weight or featherweight?
18:45  Glen
lump in a heavyweight
18:45
since I was 15 so I've never
18:48
really cared.
18:48  Wayne
What is heavyweight. Glen
18:48
just have
18:51  Glen
it 92 over.
18:53  Wayne
That means I'll be
18:53
fighting Anthony Joshua. He's
18:55
mad. Yeah. To be honest, nothing
18:55
could be no no. No, just being
19:06
sorry. But yeah, sorry, Glen. So
19:06
I'm putting you off flyweight
19:13
Bantam weight and featherweight
19:13
which is the heaviest out of
19:16
them ones
19:18  Unknown
flow
19:18
into February. I've always got
19:23
time to wait.
19:24  Wayne
I hate to do this to a
19:24
guest Don't worry, it's quite
19:31
it's quite it's quite a regular
19:31
occurrence to be honest. They're
19:34
not necessarily related to
19:34
anything. Now I've got to make
19:37
sure that Trevor doesn't do any
19:37
good right
19:41  Trev
I'm gonna say this way
19:41
because it could Denali bomber
19:44
the beaded bomber that could
19:44
take you wine, give me the
19:46
question.
19:46  Wayne
me Take me in the ring.
19:46
Oops, that doesn't sound right
19:50
does it? Sorry. I'm gonna say
19:50
this one because there is a
19:55
chance you might know and if you
19:55
don't, then you know maybe a
19:58
clown you out but so it Lennox
19:58
Lewis was defeated by hasim
20:04
Rahman in 2001. What excuse did
20:04
he give his promoter for his
20:10
lack of focus? And I just want
20:10
I'm sorry, sorry my
20:15  Trev
when I get it wrong in
20:15
contenders no answers
20:18  Wayne
you've got just guessed
20:18
the answer. And I'll let Glenn
20:24
answer it to get his point back.
20:24
Come on this much. Wasn't really
20:34
stretching, not stretching that
20:34
but go for that. Go Go and
20:39
educate him please.
20:42  Glen
Why if I've got if I've
20:42
got this right, because while
20:44
ago, it when he was jet lagged
20:44
and tired because he was
20:48
filming.
20:50  Wayne
This man doesn't know his
20:50
stuff. He was factually his
20:55
excuse was he was filming
20:55
Ocean's 11 or was he doing doing
20:59
work as a camera man?
21:05  Glen
I probably remember in
21:05
that film.
21:08  Trev
for about two seconds. He
21:08
was probably masturbating on the
21:11
planning. Oh, is
21:12  Wayne
that what you said? died?
21:12
Yeah. Yeah. Next one to you.
21:21
Glenn. You say you've got your
21:21
point back so you're good.
21:25
American boxer. This is the one
21:25
I was going to give trip to half
21:29
test him again. But he's gonna
21:29
know this man. Because it's
21:31
movie related. American boxer
21:31
James J. Braddock was given the
21:36
nickname inspired by popular
21:36
fairytale story. What is it? I
21:43
don't want to give this to Trev.
21:43
If I have to give you a million
21:46
close, I'll do it. Think of the
21:46
clock striking that 12 o'clock
21:54
and turning into pumpkins and
21:54
things?
21:57  Glen
Sorry, thanks. Cinderella.
21:57
Are
21:59  Wayne
you related? Yeah. And
21:59
opposite of woman.
22:07  Unknown
Opera opposite of
22:10  Wayne
well done. He knows this
22:10
stuff. Right. As long as I don't
22:13
have to give it to Trevor. I
22:13
hate it when he gets things
22:16
right. He goes on about it for
22:16
weeks. Well done. Cinderella.
22:19
Man. Did you know that Trev you
22:19
would have known that when?
22:22
Yeah.
22:23  Unknown
You knew me? Yeah.
22:23
Would it? Was
22:25  Wayne
it a film with Russell
22:25
Crowe? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Right.
22:28
Next question to you. Trev.
22:28
These good is not multiple
22:31
choice. How old was George
22:31
Foreman? Not when he invented
22:35
the grill when he become the
22:35
oldest heavyweight champion.
22:41
It's just a number.
22:44  Trev
Are you saying it's just
22:44
enough because he was gonna be
22:46
between
22:47  Wayne
one and sort of something
22:47
in it. You know? Well, one was
22:50
he so you can can have for you.
22:50
So
22:54  Trev
was he as old as Joe
22:54
Bogner?
22:57  Wayne
is probably better
22:57
looking to be honest. And to
22:58
talk.
22:59  Unknown
Yeah,
23:00  Wayne
but just have a guess. I
23:00
mean, you're not gonna you're
23:02
not gonna. You're always gonna
23:02
be the oldest Heavyweight
23:05
Champion, the oldest heavyweight
23:05
champ 45.
23:08  Trev
Oh, God, how
23:09  Unknown
did you do that? Oh my
23:09
god.
23:14
Did you just go?
23:15  Trev
I feel like Rocky Balboa
23:15
rotted up those steps in
23:19
Philadelphia now.
23:24  Wayne
Right, because he got one
23:24
right. I'll go quickly to Glen.
23:27
Glen, in which round? Did
23:27
Anthony Joshua defeat Vladimir
23:32
Klitschko in their heavyweight
23:32
share showdown in 2017.
23:36  Unknown
Oh,
23:39  Glen
good. Wah. Six or 96196199
23:39
bit more
23:46  Wayne
people. Okay. A bit more.
23:46
A bit more.
23:49  Unknown
11. Yeah.
23:52  Wayne
Excellent. Well, let's
23:52
get started about that.
23:59  Trev
But yeah, he said six.
24:07  Wayne
But yeah, I think we all
24:07
watched that one where he was I
24:10
was we were in the pub at that
24:10
time travelling Where? Yeah.
24:14  Unknown
Yeah, yeah.
24:16  Glen
Did a draft make the
24:16
decision means that went ran off
24:18
with that. Yeah.
24:20  Trev
Very quickly, clean just
24:20
on that subject of like,
24:24
televised boxing. Do you think
24:24
the pay per view is a real con?
24:29  Glen
Oh, you know what pissed
24:29
me off when I got when I started
24:33
to buy light Sky Sports and sky
24:33
box by the channels. And then
24:37
suddenly, I'm still paying out
24:37
from my pay per view on top of
24:40
that. Yeah. Yeah, it gets
24:40
ridiculous then after that.
24:45  Trev
Yeah, I'm glad we cleared
24:45
that up. Because the pay per
24:48
view thing that all the lads
24:48
have now worked by the box in
24:51
and stuff and they used to be
24:51
able to kind of see where before
24:55
we could before COVID you could
24:55
all get together and make a note
24:58
of it and oh by a fire their age
24:58
but if you're 25 that's terrible
25:05
and he really used especially
25:05
for something that it's not like
25:08
a football match he could be
25:08
over within three minutes
25:11  Unknown
yeah
25:14  Wayne
you know I don't know why
25:14
recharging people the other day
25:17
for that
25:21  Glen
destroyed in the US yeah
25:24  Wayne
it was a lucky punch you
25:24
just proved it was a lucky punch
25:27
in the first fire it really did
25:27
yeah,
25:29  Glen
I dropped him he dropped
25:29
in a couple of times in the last
25:31
fire yeah and he just comes back
25:31
with that absolute you know that
25:34
famous saying I only take one
25:34
plan Yes,
25:36  Wayne
we have a heavyweight
25:36
over there Yeah, that's how I'm
25:39
gonna get you with Trev but
25:39
we're not going to just just one
25:42
lucky punch yeah one last
25:42
question to you Trev before we
25:46
finish it's not a suit quite an
25:46
easy one actually. So just to
25:48
make you feel pressure which
25:48
boxing promoters five come on
25:52
you go get this which boxing
25:52
promoters favourite expression
25:55
is only in America
25:57  Trev
on King
26:01  Wayne
I hate to do it, but it's
26:01
correct. Yeah, that's it that's
26:04
the end test the guests for this
26:04
week get
26:06  Trev
up in the morning my hair
26:06
looks like Don kings used to
26:10  Wayne
your paid puppy looks
26:10
like Don King upside down today.
26:16
Thanks for taking part in neckli
26:16
Yes, again, so just sort of
26:22
summing up and everything that
26:22
you say like any age obviously
26:25
if you're going to take up
26:25
boxing as a as a sport for your
26:27
life, start as early as you can
26:27
like you are with your boys. And
26:31
but if you want to start our
26:31
age, I mean Trevor Noah I don't
26:34
like to set too much but we do
26:34
put it out there that we're sort
26:37
of 50 odd. He could still get
26:37
away we can still do so well.
26:40
Well, hold on. Hi. Go free mumps
26:40
free mumps three months Yeah.
26:44  Trev
And he's older than
26:44
obviously older than me. Glenn
26:47
by free masters.
26:48  Wayne
Yes. Okay. Let's talk
26:48
about acting your age again. You
26:52
know, I mean, effective 50 year
26:52
old didn't hear enough 50
26:54
rights, arguing about free
26:54
mumps. But you know, we could if
26:59
we decided I'm not being funny
26:59
offensive at all my life. I did
27:02
do a little bit when I was about
27:02
eight. But you know, and you're
27:05
just fell away for whatever
27:05
reason, a place called used to
27:07
be called Lindisfarne in Salford
27:07
used to be quite well known. But
27:13
I fancied it now because I
27:13
thought because the ultimate
27:15
fitness of it. What would we
27:15
expect for somebody that hasn't
27:19
done any sort of cardio work
27:19
probably for at least a year.
27:23  Glen
It's it's basically it's
27:23
the one of the hardest spokes in
27:27
the world not to put you off but
27:27
you'll burn hundreds and
27:30
hundreds of calories and get in
27:30
the best shape of your life. But
27:33
you don't realise you're doing
27:33
it because you're so
27:35
concentrating on you know,
27:35
keeping your chin down hitting
27:39
the target listen to the
27:39
combination working out your
27:41
breathing there's so much to
27:41
focus on. There's so much you
27:44
don't know if I say to you give
27:44
me 1000 burpees you'd be like to
27:52
get to the same end goal but you
27:52
don't realise this it's just so
27:56
much to it you just burn is
27:56
neither workout like it in the
27:59
world. It's just it's hard.
28:02  Trev
I've To be honest, I've
28:02
only I've been to I've only ever
28:04
been to one boxing match that
28:04
was a charity thing that was put
28:08
on in southie. And one of our
28:08
guys in the in the village
28:11
Daniel, he fought for his dad
28:11
kind of a charity thing. To be
28:15
honest, he is a big guy and it
28:15
looked absolutely trained ages
28:21
four and it just looks such hard
28:21
work and he was so kind of
28:25
ragged, we did win, which was
28:25
really good. But that freaked me
28:30
out a bit because I don't know
28:30
about obviously you've got a lot
28:33
of friends in that kind of that
28:33
game plan. But seeing friends of
28:39
yours ski here and then
28:39
encouraging them to hit other
28:44
people. But the adrenalin in the
28:44
room is incredible, isn't it?
28:48
Yeah,
28:48  Glen
it is not really? Yeah. Is
28:48
that so? How
28:53  Unknown
do you control that?
28:55  Glen
is so much to explain, but
28:55
it's I look at if someone hits
29:01
me in the fire I don't think oh,
29:01
they're better than they are
29:04
this is the I think I allow them
29:04
to hit me. So it's not that
29:08
they're better than me it's that
29:08
I let them hit me by not
29:10
slipping or moving quick enough.
29:10
Yeah. So so I'm so focused on
29:15
the job in hand and there's a
29:15
little bit of aggression to it
29:18
but it's a controlled it's
29:18
controlled environment it's like
29:22
you've got you've got to get
29:22
that job done it's completely
29:24
different well to say of free
29:24
fire where you know, that's you
29:28
put someone under fight stress
29:28
and they'll just revert to the
29:30
most basic fine skills without
29:30
shooting down.
29:33  Wayne
cuddling them and
29:33
wrestling on the floor
29:35
gentlemen, was that just me? I
29:35
don't know. But
29:38  Trev
we've why Yeah, that's
29:46
why we call it a lover fun. Just
29:46
run out at Mary Kay and just
29:52
hugging cases just
29:53  Wayne
now but I do understand.
29:53
I've been in a few you know,
29:56
strictly street fights, if you
29:56
can call them that, but he's
29:58
exactly that my address. gets
29:58
the better of me when I thought
30:02
I was it. I used to do martial
30:02
arts and I actually won a
30:04
competition, funnily enough, but
30:04
I haven't done it for a few
30:06
years. This is going back a long
30:06
time trip before we knew jokes
30:10
and then but I remembered every
30:10
time I'd go into an actual fight
30:14
my adrenalin used to drain me
30:14
within about 30 seconds because
30:17
I'm so and then I remembered
30:17
back to Bruce Lee said in into
30:20
the dragon I don't know if it
30:20
really transpires the boxing but
30:23
he says that emotional content
30:23
not is that is that kind of what
30:27
you have to do? Put yourself
30:27
there. Yeah, definitely.
30:30  Glen
When I first died boxing
30:30
my friends used to say to me, I
30:34
always know when I've heard you.
30:34
I was like how he went because
30:36
you come flailing out of the
30:36
corner. And then all he does is
30:41
hit and hit me and move out of
30:41
the way because I'm just I've
30:43
gone into that little 10 second
30:43
break myth. Where it's just
30:48
you're not thinking about what
30:48
you're doing is you have to be
30:51
your partner. It's like what I
30:51
love about this fall to be fair,
30:54
is you come in, you'll punch 10
30:54
live in there with the crap out
30:58
of each other and then you have
30:58
a little cuddle and shake it
30:59
down to the end. I just love
30:59
that. As soon as the belly this
31:04
good switch is gone. You've left
31:04
it all switches gone. You know
31:09
that?
31:10  Trev
On a quick side? No. I'm
31:10
actually got boxing in my
31:16
family. My dad was a fan. He
31:16
wasn't he wasn't a boxer but my
31:19
wife's I think he's a great
31:19
uncle or some kind of relation
31:24
was the first guy to actually
31:24
win the Lonsdale bill. Wow. A
31:29
guy called Bombardier Billy
31:29
wells. He was also you know,
31:33
rank film distribution. You know
31:33
the gong of the star. Yeah,
31:38
that's wack. Yeah, that's me.
31:38
Yeah. Yeah, he Yeah. He actually
31:46
kind of defended the total of 14
31:46
times. And yeah, he was the
31:51
first one to win the Lonsdale
31:51
bill. So that's me. That's my
31:55
box in
31:59  Wayne
case that he didn't say
31:59
well, he's Londo Lonsdale belt
32:02
to sports director at
32:07  Trev
free two point t.
32:14  Wayne
Glenn quick, where can
32:14
people find out more about
32:16
gladbach Club and links to to
32:16
the what can they find out
32:20
online? So if they want to find
32:20
out more, or come and train with
32:22
us later?
32:23  Glen
Yeah, sure. I'm on
32:23
Instagram, as glove underscore,
32:27
underscore club. And I posted a
32:27
few bits and bobs on there. And
32:32
I'm doing a little few little
32:32
tutorials. But if anyone wants
32:34
to drop me a message, I mean,
32:34
and talk about boxing. I love it
32:38
so much. I'm quietly talking to
32:38
anyone that will listen to me.
32:40
So any questions or anything
32:40
they want to know all quietly?
32:44
get in contact with anyone to
32:44
talk about.
32:46  Trev
You've also just started
32:46
your own podcast Avenue.
32:50  Glen
Yeah, first, first episode
32:50
went out on the public kid in
32:54
dillian. White to fight. So
32:54
yeah, it's great fun.
33:00  Wayne
Second, find that on
33:00
YouTube. Then what's it? What's
33:02
it called?
33:03  Glen
Yeah, that one's chat. Box
33:03
TV. chatterbox TV.
33:07  Wayne
We'll put links to all
33:07
this up on our site as well.
33:10
Yeah, exactly.
33:14  Trev
In the future clean,
33:14
perhaps night. You know, we
33:18
could come on and do a podcast
33:18
for all of us, you know, so
33:21
yeah.
33:23  Glen
I'd love to have you guys
33:24  Wayne
on. And if you're fine
33:24
comes off, Glenn. We'd like to
33:27
go to it. I think I'd love to.
33:27
Yeah, if you don't mind.
33:33  Trev
We'd be on your in your
33:33
corner might definitely,
33:36
definitely in your corner.
33:37  Wayne
really brilliant. I
33:37
really appreciate joining us
33:39
today.
33:40  Unknown
Thanks for your time,
33:40
plenty has been really, really
33:42
good, informative.
33:43  Wayne
Thank you
33:45  Unknown
for having me on.
33:46  Wayne
So we cannot fake chairs,
33:46
Glen. And Glen contacted us
33:53
after the interview. And he just
33:53
wanted us to mention to everyone
33:57
that he might have come across a
33:57
bit how he didn't want to in
34:01
that podcast by saying that he
34:01
started off doing Bare Knuckle
34:04
fighting in his background, and
34:04
he obviously wants to make it
34:07
clear is that part of him was
34:07
just part of his journey. And
34:10
obviously, you know, we've we've
34:10
his job now training people to
34:14
taking kids off the street,
34:14
basically, and training them to
34:16
be boxing in the discipline. He
34:16
didn't want to come across like
34:19
he's nasty or anything like that
34:19
was just part of his journey. So
34:22
I just thought we would say that
34:22
and clarify that. I'm sure you
34:25
all knew that anyway, to be
34:25
honest. What do you think drew?
34:28
Well,
34:28  Trev
the thing is, there's a
34:28
lot of responsibility. There
34:31
were kids, isn't there? Yes. And
34:31
I think that's the thing if
34:34
you're going to send your child
34:34
to like a box in training camp
34:38
or using best to know the
34:38
background, so that that is
34:43
called the bit I loved about
34:43
that that I really took from
34:47
there is the idea that they're
34:47
training anybody, mainly young
34:53
guys, to channel their anger and
34:53
use it in a good way. And
35:00
channel it for a response rather
35:00
than kicking seven bells out
35:04
someone in the street? Yes. I
35:04
think the thing is, the more
35:10
responsibility you have the, the
35:10
more you know how you can hurt
35:15
someone with your hands, cleans
35:15
teaching them that not to use it
35:20
the responsibilities, you have
35:20
got weapons there so that that's
35:25
great. I think Glenn come across
35:25
like he really had a way of
35:29
teaching guys not to pique their
35:29
anger in and save it. Yeah. For
35:35
the sport and to channel that
35:35
anger into concentration to to
35:41
win a sport, which I thought was
35:41
great. I think that's a great
35:44
message to get across to people.
35:44
Yeah, we Yeah,
35:46  Wayne
exactly. He confirmed
35:46
basically what we've heard
35:49
before with some of the
35:49
professional boxers over the
35:52
years, a lot of them came from
35:52
from hardcore backgrounds,
35:55
didn't they? Yeah, exactly. No
35:55
hard times, they may be involved
35:58
with crime, and boxing, save
35:58
some from that channels, their
36:02
energies, I mean, with the work
36:02
involved. And you could hear
36:04
that, from from what Glenn was
36:04
saying, you don't have time to
36:07
do that. You wouldn't have
36:07
energy,
36:09  Trev
saying what whatever.
36:09
Like, I know, my my references
36:14
are no normally movies and
36:14
stuff, but and other stuff.
36:17
Because as I said in the
36:17
interview, my dad was already in
36:19
a boxing. But they're up at like
36:19
three in the morning and running
36:24
and stuff. So the disciplines,
36:24
not just in the fighting, it's
36:28
conditioning and getting your
36:28
head right to deal with the
36:32
actual training of it, because
36:32
it is such hard work. Yeah, you
36:35
know, you look at any of clean
36:35
social media and stuff. He's
36:40
absolutely, and I think he's
36:40
brought that discipline of the
36:45
fight skills into his business
36:45
as well. Yes. So easy, it's full
36:50
on, you know, it's, it shows you
36:50
if you go for it, you can
36:55
achieve things and you can
36:55
become exactly something, you
36:58
know,
36:58  Wayne
if I was going to be
36:58
trained for boxing, and
37:00
obviously Glenn said, then, you
37:00
know, maybe you'll see us on the
37:02
pad sometime. If I could drag
37:02
myself on my sofa, then maybe
37:06
I'll take him up and
37:07  Trev
catch me running around
37:07
the room while you're here. Say,
37:10  Wayne
I'm not going to catch
37:10
you that was the problem. I like
37:11
the way you set on the fence
37:11
with that and sort of come up
37:14
with a scenario where both of us
37:14
could win. Yeah, it doesn't. So
37:18
where the issues between you and
37:18
myself, but oh, no, it's all
37:22
sorted out there. But if I was
37:22
going to be trained for boxing,
37:26
I'd want to be trained by
37:26
somebody who's enthusiastic as
37:28
Glenn. And I wouldn't I wouldn't
37:28
think twice about going to glove
37:32
up club and sign in at all, just
37:32
to get you wherever you want.
37:36
Yeah,
37:37  Trev
I think as well he, it
37:37
shows you that it's not a five
37:40
minute wonder, yes, you know,
37:40
the whole time to beat you
37:45
invest a lot into it, to get a
37:45
lot out of it. So I think that
37:50
is in life as well. I think
37:50
that's a great because you could
37:53
take what you learn from that
37:53
training into life, as well.
37:57
Yeah, as you said in an
37:57
interview a bit like Bruce Lee,
37:59
I know it was, like, a bit of a
37:59
corny movie reference, but it is
38:03
true. Yeah, he's near. Yeah.
38:05  Wayne
And he said, Yeah, you
38:05
don't you know, you're just
38:08
flailing around, because you'll
38:08
burn out quickly. You know,
38:12  Trev
you've got to be
38:12
disciplined, leaving your guard
38:14
down. You're just not you're not
38:14
thinking straight.
38:16  Wayne
So that's what I say. And
38:16
I think that's what Bruce Lee
38:18
meant. He said, Don't Don't just
38:18
go for me. Just think about what
38:21
you're doing and think about it,
38:22  Trev
in a way is what you
38:22
should do more with me. You
38:26
should think more about the
38:26
podcast rather than just giving
38:29
me a hard time because your red
38:29
red mist comes down. Yeah, what
38:32
do you see what happens? See,
38:32
the red mist comes down. You
38:36
stop listening now. But you do
38:36
you read me has come down and
38:42
then you start forgetting
38:42
things? Because all you can see
38:46
is me. Anger for me. So if you
38:46
control that channel bit, you
38:52
could possibly put that energy
38:52
into the podcast. Before the
38:56
intro to this podcast.
38:58  Wayne
I asked you what is your
38:58
prediction for this podcast? And
39:01
you said pain, like so you're
39:01
the one who's dishing out the
39:05
red mist? Nothing to do with me.
39:05
I'm not having this argument on
39:08
air. So But yeah, I can't wait
39:08
to finish this season and
39:14
therefore hopefully next year
39:14
we'll script Trevor's as a
39:17
lovely kind of coordinator and
39:17
correspond a
39:21  Unknown
different kind of guy a
39:21
different kind of
39:23  Wayne
Yeah, that's not gonna
39:23
happen, is it? But yeah, so it
39:26
will put all Glen's details up
39:26
on the website, links to glove
39:29
app club, and all these
39:29
Instagram and everything so you
39:32
can see for yourself the videos
39:32
of Glenn train
39:34  Unknown
and he's, and he's
39:34
podcast.
39:37  Wayne
Yeah, and Glenn, what's
39:37
the name of the podcast again?
39:39  Trev
trif. chatterbox
39:39
chatterbox. That's
39:42  Wayne
right. Yes. box for box.
39:42
Yeah, that's what he was
39:45
described. actly
39:45  Trev
Yeah, yeah, go at that.
39:45
I've watched a couple of them is
39:48
dead. And even for a person
39:48
who's not overly into boxing,
39:51
likes a little bit of it. I
39:51
found it really good. I follow
39:55
the Yeah, it's easy. If you like
39:55
boxing, you could just sit and
39:59
listen to him. Yeah, not only
39:59
like,
40:01  Wayne
it's like we try and do
40:01
with this podcast a little bit
40:04
driven here, we're, you know, we
40:04
don't expect everyone to to like
40:07
older subjects, we're actually
40:07
included, but we're trying to
40:09
make other things accessible.
40:09
So, you know, you might not
40:12
necessarily be into boxing. But
40:12
it's interesting, hopefully, for
40:15
people to hear people talking
40:15
passionately about boxing. Yeah,
40:18
it's giving us a clue of what to
40:18
expect. So, as always, go to the
40:24
website, AML o podcast dot,
40:26  Unknown
bring it out,
40:27  Wayne
check it out, leave us a
40:27
message. We love listening to
40:30
your messages. And thank you for
40:30
taking time out to send us and
40:32
knock out listening to knock out
40:32
I'm trying to think of a pan Now
40:37
I'm not going back to that one
40:37
that we said we're not going to
40:39
there's no bachelor going on.
40:39
But it's a knockout. It just
40:42
reminds me of like silly, big
40:42
costumes running.
40:56  Trev
So yeah,
40:57  Wayne
we'll put all the links
40:57
in the show, please go to the
40:59
website. leave us a review,
40:59
baby. Don't leave us a review
41:02
after this section. But please,
41:02
we look forward to seeing you on
41:06
the next show. Thanks for your
41:06
company drive, even though I'm
41:08
supposed to be horrible to you
41:08
all the time. And we're
41:10  Unknown
in a towel now. throw
41:12  Wayne
in the towel. Well done.
41:12
Well done. slow clap coming,
41:15
Chase. Thanks a lot, everyone.
41:15
See you on the next one? Yeah.
41:19  Trev
Ding ding.
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