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episode 26: Christopher Shayne - Ten High [transcript]



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 2021-07-04  47m
 
 
00:00  intro
You're listening to amid
00:00
life less ordinary, the weekly
00:05
podcast giving you the lowdown
00:05
on becoming a cool older dude.
00:11
The good times are not afraid of
00:11
memory, it's time to start
00:15
loving them again. And here are
00:15
your hosts, Wayne and Trev.
00:23  Wayne
Welcome back to a mid
00:23
life less ordinary. And this
00:27
episode is entitled Christopher
00:27
Shane 10. Hi, my name is Wayne.
00:32
My partner trebs here. Yep,
00:32
we've landed on Planet Rock
00:36
again. In planet classic rock,
00:36
Trevor,
00:38  Trev
isn't it? I think if you
00:38
want to be that specific, yes,
00:42
he is planning classic rock
00:42
because that's what Chris is.
00:44  Wayne
Just to clarify when I
00:44
said you're my partner. We're
00:48
not coming out here. So anything
00:51  Trev
coming out of our space?
00:51
We're capsules? Yes. That's what
00:54
I was trying to stay in there.
00:55  Wayne
I'm standing with me.
00:55
Yeah. I don't think I should
00:59
explain this too far. Because I
00:59
just don't know what 2021 means.
01:05
But yeah, today's Christopher
01:05
Shane. 10. Hi, Christopher
01:08
Shane. American VP. Yeah, new EP
01:08
tech. Christopher Shane band.
01:14
Straight out of Phoenix as a
01:14
five piece. This band making
01:17
waves in America. Fist pumping.
01:17
Classic sounding Trev tell us
01:21
what you know about Christopher
01:21
Shane.
01:23  Trev
Old School rock, old still
01:23
old school kind of br rock.
01:28
entertaining. That's the good
01:28
thing. Yeah, none of these shoe
01:31
guys in heavy VEDA nonsense
01:31
anymore. As much as I love Pearl
01:34
Jam back in the day. It's all
01:34
about entertainment. So an old
01:37
school classic rock fitted ice
01:37
DC roaster. Oh, Aerosmith. You
01:42
can hear it as easy topping
01:42
there is a southern vibe going
01:46
on. right up my alley. Very kind
01:46
of. You can imagine shooting
01:51
live and there'd be like a bit
01:51
of a big kind of crowd and just,
01:55
you know, yeah, get into it.
01:56  Wayne
The video is the music
01:56
videos that you can find on
01:58
YouTube, if anyone's listening.
01:58
I think Christopher show the
02:02
videos are fun, aren't they?
02:03  Trev
Yeah, exactly. That's what
02:03
that's what it really, really
02:06
kind of sums up when you watch a
02:06
loss to pull the ball. He's got
02:10
a real kind of. Yeah, so you're,
02:10
you're really we really need to
02:15
see it. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And
02:15
that's what I was using in music
02:19
now to get they tell you what if
02:19
you want to put them in a kind
02:21
of modern day, but bands have
02:21
been around for the last 10
02:25
years, instead of the sort of
02:25
old bands I've mentioned.
02:28
They're probably like a sort of
02:28
Southern rock version of
02:30
airborne, the Australian band
02:30
who were just like AC DC, but
02:35
they're doing it with a kind of
02:35
Southern vibe, which is great.
02:38
Would it make sense if I said
02:38
like, like the darkness as well,
02:41
because that's the vibe I get
02:41
when I watch Yeah, yeah. The
02:44
what the the sort of
02:44
entertainer. Yeah, boy. Yeah,
02:48
yeah, Chris has got that about
02:48
him. Which I think is really
02:52
good on the hair flick. And you
02:52
know, this sort of slow motion
02:55
guitar in the air. You know,
02:55
he's rocking it. That's what
02:58
it's all about, you know, you
02:58
again, because we've had all
03:01
these kind of locked down and no
03:01
gigs. Yeah, now there's a time
03:05
and a place for bands that kind
03:05
of want to get deeper meaning
03:09
fall out with someone like
03:09
Harrison last week, that kind of
03:13
had that. And it there's this
03:13
time, but every now and again,
03:15
you just want to see, you know,
03:15
not someone run onto that stage
03:19
and just bang it out. You know,
03:19
just kind of like, not like
03:24
that. I knew. Like,
03:27  Wayne
I've just I'm turning it
03:27
right there. So I wasn't saying
03:30
anything.
03:32  Trev
It kind of depends on what
03:32
stages you want to go on.
03:35  Wayne
Yeah, I wasn't thinking
03:35
the bank streets of Soho. cafe
03:39
slippery. Yeah, exactly. Anyway,
03:39
anyway, but yeah, this is this
03:44
is what we needed is donated.
03:44
I'm sure these guys have been
03:46
making waves over in the UK very
03:46
soon. So without further ado,
03:49
let's ask Chris for his paces.
03:49
And hopefully you'll join us on
03:52
another test the guest trip
03:52
again on a specialist subject
03:56
this week. So over to you,
03:56
Chris.
03:59  Trev
So you've never been to
03:59
England. It's like man,
04:01  Chris
I have not but I I
04:01
listened to so much stuff over
04:07
there that I tried it like
04:07
because I mean, like one of my
04:10
biggest early influences was the
04:10
darkness right a really cool
04:14
thing that he did, man. Yeah.
04:14
Yeah. So I mean them. And
04:21
because I saw them when they
04:21
first had their when they first
04:25
like exploded all the permission
04:25
to land era. Yes. Yeah, exactly.
04:29
So I saw them when I was a
04:29
teenager for that first US tour
04:34
and that I was just like, yeah,
04:34
this is this is what I want to
04:37
do. Let's do it's really
04:38  Trev
weird with the darkness
04:38
because I had a real sort of
04:42
love hate thing with them at
04:42
first. When they first came out
04:46
with all the high voices and the
04:46
ad I was immediately attracted
04:50
to because their guitarist the
04:50
brother had always had a Thin
04:54
Lizzy t shirt on and so I was
04:54
like, that's mas nail Yes. But
05:02
when they first come out, I
05:02
thought they're taking the piss
05:05
a bit here. We've all the real
05:05
high voices and stuff. Yeah. And
05:09
it kind of they grew on me and I
05:09
saw him support in his skin and
05:12
do purple. Hmm. And I saw my
05:12
kind of festivals. And they were
05:18
so into it and so sincere with
05:18
it. That I was shocked. They're
05:24
not they really love this stuff.
05:24
They're not Yes, this pain, sort
05:28
of doing a spinal tap and like a
05:28
rock feigns for a bit of a riot
05:33
inside. Because in England, I
05:33
don't know what it was like in
05:36
the States, but in England, they
05:36
had quite a different fan base.
05:40
It had people that you wouldn't
05:40
expect to listen to a great deal
05:43
of rock music. Right here,
05:43
right? Yeah, no, because they
05:46
even supported Robbie Williams
05:46
over here. That's insane. That's
05:51
exactly what like, again that
05:51
crowd I think that the bill was
05:56
mobi darkness and Robbie
05:56
Williams. Sad. so crazy. Yeah,
06:01
that does not make sense at all.
06:01
That's awesome. And I know you
06:04
guys, we've Lollapalooza and
06:04
stuff, had some really different
06:08
bills. But that Yeah. was just
06:08
like, that one's Well, I
06:13  Chris
made here, you know, we
06:13
have what's the one out in the
06:18
middle of the desert that that's
06:18
in? Is that right? No, it's some
06:25
Joshua Tree in that general
06:25
area. It's a huge deal. And I'm
06:29
gonna get slaughtered for not
06:29
remembering it. But they, the
06:34
big thing is, like the most
06:34
diverse setlist you could
06:37
possibly imagine. And every
06:37
night, it's always like Nine
06:40
Inch Nails and Kanye West and
06:40
like all these bad like, yeah,
06:43
just do it. You know? And yeah,
06:43
but that's about as closest we
06:47
get usually now when you see the
06:47
big tours. And they kind of
06:52
sweep through with six bands on
06:52
the bill. Usually, it's all same
06:58
genre. Everybody knows what
06:58
they're getting, you know?
07:00  Trev
Yeah, isn't it? Yeah,
07:00
yeah, I think I think that kind
07:05
of feels like Lollapalooza, and
07:05
that kind of stuff. I think the
07:10
thing with that was back in the
07:10
kind of early 90s, early 2000s,
07:15
because heavy metal was such a
07:15
dirty word, wasn't it? Go? Yeah,
07:19
it was,
07:19
you know, to be honest, I was
07:19
brought up for all of it. So all
07:23
of a sudden, you were kind of
07:27
I don't want to listen to Judas
07:27
Priest. I don't want to listen
07:31
to I might not was the biggest
07:31
mind fan as a teenager ever. All
07:35
right, fresh books, all of that.
07:35
Right. And all of a sudden, it
07:38
was like, You were like, no, I
07:38
shouldn't. And it's when I look
07:42
back. It was sort of
07:42
heartbreaking, I thought but it
07:45
was so fashionable to be into
07:45
more alternative bands all of a
07:50
sudden, because just like
07:50
everyone was cutting their hair.
07:54
It was like I remember getting
07:54
load. Metallica zelle Oh, yeah.
07:59
Massive. I remember looking at
07:59
the back, and I was like, that's
08:03
not the guys that are on the
08:03
back of master puppets. And then
08:06
we move forward. I appreciate
08:06
that unless you're Motorhead or
08:09
your Slayer? Or do you see they
08:09
call? No, but you have to move
08:15
with it because some of the best
08:15
bands ever like Queen and rush
08:17
have lunch so diverse. And the
08:17
police that's how it is.
08:21  Chris
That's how it should be
08:21
to like, uh, yeah, I think I
08:24
think it's really exciting to
08:24
listen to a band throughout
08:30
their career and understand
08:30
because I mean, that's, that's
08:33
part of the story of the band.
08:33
You know, you can hear like, Oh,
08:37
they were so and so was going
08:37
through a divorce and it's, you
08:40
know, you can hear it and all of
08:40
these, you know, and that kind
08:42
of thing. I kind of love that.
08:42
Like, my favourite Queens of the
08:48
Stone Age record is like
08:48
clockwork mainly because a lot
08:54
of that record is written about
08:54
him going through a coma, you
08:58
know, and what that means to him
08:58
and how much all of that like
09:02
changed him as a person like
09:02
yeah, that's cool.
09:05  Trev
I love him. Yeah, exactly.
09:05
Yeah. According to the Stone Age
09:09
already funny band for me
09:09
because I was like the world's
09:11
biggest cause thing. Oh, yeah.
09:14
Actually worship guys. They I
09:14
was into that whole stone of
09:18
rock thing massively. And all of
09:18
a sudden, all of a sudden, Josh
09:24
home it all fell apart when they
09:24
were just going to be massive.
09:28
Remember, they just come off a
09:28
tour with Metallica in
09:31
Australia. And you had Dave
09:31
Grohl on MTV where he's been
09:35
interviewing Nirvana. And
09:35
they've said you think like
09:37
Nirvana is the future of rock
09:37
and roll he actually said on it.
09:40
I mean, Stevie I mean, the CNRS
09:40
about 1920 year old I was like,
09:45
he just mentioned kayas he just
09:45
said guys are gonna be the
09:49
biggest thing ever. Yeah, I was
09:49
like, and then they just
09:51
disappeared and then like, yeah,
09:51
Josh Homme come out with like,
09:55
the first album, the three and
09:55
he had a real it's still really
09:58
stoner rock. Yeah, and then
09:58
super weird to Yeah. It's Yeah,
10:04
it's got
10:05
Chris Goss, isn't it? That's
10:05
Chris Goss. That's a massive
10:08
reality. So yeah, thing. Yeah,
10:08
that were my leg and got
10:11
involved with the screaming
10:11
trees. That kind of, and I think
10:15
Nick olivary had that craziness
10:15
about and in the feeling
10:21  Chris
that he kind of had that
10:21
like, like, punk rock
10:23
aggression. He's anything. Yeah.
10:23
Yeah. Which I mean, ever since
10:29
he's not been in the band, you
10:29
could kind of hear Josh just try
10:32
to get more closer. It's not I
10:32
don't want to say pop. But like,
10:37
he's playing with those, you
10:37
know that that kind of energy.
10:41
I'm just super interesting. But
10:43  Trev
yeah, to be honest. Again,
10:43
not. We've pop music. Some of
10:48
it's brilliant. You know, he
10:48
just, you know, if you look back
10:52
on even is like a band lights
10:52
sort of supertrend over to the
10:56
pop band Really? Look at quite a
10:56
while and we obviously won't
11:00
mention Oh, Kevin Spacey his
11:00
favourite band. We're trying to
11:02
come away from that. Right,
11:02
right. Yeah. Yeah. That's the
11:05
thing. Just because he's pop
11:05
music doesn't make it lousy.
11:10
That's the notes. Everything
11:10
kind of has got its place is
11:14
these are the two. There's two
11:14
good two types of music and my
11:17
eyes are my ears. Should I sign
11:17
that's good and bad. Because
11:20
that was again, wine and I were
11:20
brought up when hip hop was
11:24
huge. Oh, yeah. When I was at
11:24
school, I don't know about you.
11:27
Because you're a lot younger
11:27
than us, I think. Yeah. Yeah.
11:33
Yeah, this is a bard bid posed
11:33
this question. I know. It's
11:39
crazy. But yeah. Along with
11:39
that, when that came out, and it
11:47
was like, some of that was as
11:47
aggressive as I made the
11:51
Motorhead I was listening to
11:51
Yeah, hanging out with like,
11:55
guys that were into public enemy
11:55
in wy it was the same thing.
12:00
Yeah.
12:01  Chris
If you listen to Michael
12:01
Jackson's vocals on, you know,
12:07
black and white, and like, those
12:07
kind of songs and everything,
12:10
like scream and everything, like
12:10
he's doing metal vocals, yes.
12:15
Over pop music. I mean, that's
12:15
basically what he's doing. Yeah.
12:18
And, and it's Yeah, I mean,
12:18
that's, it's, I mean, even I
12:23
wouldn't even go so far as they
12:23
there's good and good and bad
12:26
music, there's just music you're
12:26
not into music you're into and
12:30
you know, like it just if it
12:30
hits the same way. I mean,
12:32
that's why we ended up doing
12:32
the, the Billy Eilish song,
12:37
because, you know, that records
12:37
really cool. And there's a bunch
12:42
of really interesting stuff. And
12:42
that was probably, I mean, cuz
12:46
that song is blues. for him.
12:46
Anyway, I recognise that the
12:48
moment that I heard it, but
12:48
like, you know, you listen to
12:52
some of those other darker songs
12:52
on there. And it's like,
12:56
interesting. And, and, and on a
12:56
pop platform. It's very subdued
13:01
and dark. And there's something
13:01
there's just I love that stuff.
13:04
Man. I just, you know, that's
13:04
why I mean, even when we're
13:08
bridging into to, you know, some
13:08
of our country styles and
13:12
everything like that. There's
13:12
some country that's just not for
13:15
me, there's some metal that's
13:15
not for me. I mean, it's all
13:18
over the place. So I just, yeah,
13:18
you take the things you like,
13:21
and you put it out there.
13:23  Trev
Yeah, it's funny, because
13:23
like, we've a lot of the kind of
13:25
alternative metal and stuff like
13:25
that. I'm a big fan of tall and
13:29
stuff. But yeah, I can't listen
13:29
to Rammstein I just can't hold
13:35
on to it. And I just, you know,
13:35
when you just don't get it, no
13:38
matter how hard you think. It's
13:38
not, it's not bad. You know,
13:41
it's not bad, but you know,
13:41
doesn't sink in it just you just
13:44
so it's best to kind of just
13:44
flip the page and go on to
13:48
something, you know, talking
13:48
about the sort of country thing
13:52
because obviously living in
13:52
England. Yeah, the country thing
13:56
is getting a lot bigger. Yeah,
13:56
the sudden again, we were kids,
14:02
and wind back me up on this that
14:02
they used to have like a country
14:05
TV show. Didn't they wind on
14:05
like a Friday evening? Yeah, the
14:10
sort of thing your mom and dad
14:10
would listen to? Or watch with
14:12
Dolly Parton and stuff like
14:12
that. And Kenny Rogers, right.
14:15
And, but obviously, in the
14:15
States, the country thing is so
14:19
huge, because he's obviously
14:19
born from you guys. So, yeah.
14:25
For the English to really kind
14:25
of embrace it again. Now. He's
14:29
quite a strange thing, because
14:29
we've got no, I don't know, I
14:33
don't remember there being a
14:33
radio station dedicated to it.
14:36
We're obviously with you guys.
14:36
It's on the airwaves
14:40  Chris
all the time. Yeah,
14:40
there's there's four stations, I
14:42
can point you to locally that
14:42
are playing it. Right. Really?
14:45
Yeah. So it's just Well, I mean,
14:45
it's basically what happened
14:50
was, is the the fervour that
14:50
happened in the late 80s, early
15:01
90s around rock and metal and
15:01
that, like arena music. Yeah.
15:08
That is now what country is at
15:08
pop country is in the state?
15:15
Yeah. It's there. I mean, I
15:15
remember going to a couple of
15:19
shows and I couldn't tell you
15:19
the artists, but and seeing it
15:23
and it was it was no different
15:23
than anything Bon Jovi had done
15:30
before. You know, like, I mean,
15:30
like show wise and everything
15:33
like that like, and I remember
15:33
going to hear in Arizona, we
15:38
have a festival called country
15:38
thunder and it's obnoxious in a
15:44
good way. You know, fantastic
15:44
well, like, everybody gets their
15:49
campers and their their, you
15:49
know, their living on the
15:53
property and it goes on for
15:53
three days. And there's a ferris
15:56
wheel and a whole Carnival
15:56
section and three stages and
16:00
it's huge. And the the I
16:00
remember my girlfriend at the
16:08
time, she was fighting with me.
16:08
And I was looking around going
16:12
you picked the wrong day to
16:12
fight with me because women here
16:15
are just insane. They're doing
16:15
the exact same thing. They just
16:22
like look at me, look at me look
16:22
at me, saying yeah, it's it was
16:31
it I just remembered like, just
16:31
it's it's a movement it. Yeah,
16:36
it's
16:37  Trev
Wednesday on again. You
16:37
might fly over. Yeah. Yeah.
16:41  Chris
Yeah, yeah. What's once I
16:41
think Arizona is pretty much
16:45
open up anyway. So yeah, I'll
16:45
let you know. I'll say
16:48  Trev
yeah, we were supposed to
16:48
they've got one over here that
16:52
we think has been cancelled the
16:52
last two years where I know I
16:54
tickets that country to country
16:54
one because it can learn three,
16:58
four or five. Well, could you
16:58
have you played with him? You
17:01
have ever played a couple of
17:01
times? Yeah,
17:03
yeah. Yeah, they again, they're
17:03
they're kind of exploding over
17:07
here. Oh, no, really have.
17:11
The good thing is, is there's
17:11
loads of those kind of bands.
17:15
Because blackberry smoke have
17:15
just announced some dates over
17:18
here as well. And I'm a massive
17:18
blackberry smoke fan. We both
17:20
like I like three as well. Yeah.
17:20
And he shows you how big
17:24
blackberry smoke have become.
17:24
Because when I first got into
17:27
them, I couldn't actually get
17:27
their albums over here. They
17:30
weren't signed to road run or
17:30
anything. Right and then all of
17:33
a sudden now they're they're
17:33
virtually sold out that whole
17:36
entire tour. Within the first
17:36
couple of hours. I struggled to
17:39
get tickets for them this
17:39
morning. I was at work like
17:41
behind in our office, got to get
17:41
tickets. And I was like, This
17:46
has never happened before. And I
17:46
think what looking at the social
17:50
media they've actually just got
17:50
in the top 10 over here album.
17:53
Wow. For a country Southern rock
17:53
band.
17:57  Chris
Yeah, it's I mean,
17:57
they're they're kind of
17:59
straddling the line. I mean,
17:59
early Cadillac three for me,
18:05
because I mean, I grew up with
18:05
blues music, right? Yeah. So
18:11
early Cadillac three really hits
18:11
that like you're like really
18:16
hits me just right. It wasn't it
18:16
there was a lot heavier I made
18:22
you listen to I'm Southern any
18:22
here that that riff and the way
18:25
those drums are it's just it's
18:25
Yeah. mungus Yeah. And I love
18:29
that stuff man. And and what's
18:29
funny is in the band, Eileen
18:34
more Cadillac three with with
18:34
the kind of groove based stuff.
18:39
And Dave my guitarist and
18:39
writing partner, he's more on
18:43
the black spirit blackberry
18:43
smoke side of just like, you
18:47
know, faith they have.
18:47
blackberry smoke has this
18:51
incredible energy about them.
18:51
And it's just, it's kind of they
18:55
kind of give me the same feeling
18:55
that like kind of ZZ Top had
19:02
were ZZ Top is amazing. Not
19:02
because they were the most
19:08
flashy or the most anything
19:08
really, but they were just ZZ
19:14
Top and they were cool is out.
19:14
Each deck was tasteful.
19:19
Everything was perfectly placed.
19:19
And blast blackberry smoke
19:22
definitely hits that where it's
19:22
just, this is what it is. And
19:27
boom, you know,
19:28  Trev
yeah, yeah, definitely.
19:28
Yeah. I think the thing is with
19:32
them is they've just taken the
19:32
sort of Skinner thing and the
19:36
Allman Brothers with the sort of
19:36
and they've put it together
19:41
where it is a bit Jacob,
19:41
obviously there's a you can hear
19:44
a big Black Crowes influence as
19:44
well in there.
19:48
And they've kind of put all that
19:48
together so all the fans of
19:51
those bands have just embraced
19:51
them completely. You know,
19:57
listen to your stuff because I
19:57
didn't know a lot about You
20:00
until again for all the kind of
20:00
sort of the Cadillac, three
20:05
black, but all these kinds of
20:05
bands. I was seeing stuff coming
20:08
up on social media. Yeah. And
20:08
you came up and I was like oh,
20:11
and you know, I even know I've
20:11
been listening to music since I
20:15
was like seven and eight. Yeah.
20:15
New Music. If I get a snippet of
20:19
it and it gets seen, then I've
20:19
got to know about it. Right.
20:23
Listen to your stuff as well.
20:23
The one of the best things about
20:27
it, in my opinion, is such sort
20:27
of good time. Be a rock. Yeah.
20:35
Yeah, give it time tune is just
20:35
like anthemic. It's just like
20:40
you, you can just, you can just
20:40
imagine, like a festival, and
20:46
you guys opening with it, and
20:46
people's head would just turn
20:49
and the fist would go up. And
20:49
there's nothing like that. You
20:53
know, that's, that's the thing
20:53
about that kind of meat. And I
20:55
think it's so cool that it's
20:55
come back into vogue. It's not
20:58
just shoe steering anymore.
20:58
Don't get me wrong. It grungy
21:01
was great. There was a brilliant
21:01
painter that grungier to
21:06
actually kind of have a front
21:06
man that's kind of rocking it
21:10
out. And that's not with
21:10
airborne and all those bands.
21:13
You wrote back now you want to
21:13
what we've been through, with
21:16
all these kind of locked down
21:16
and you want to hear good time
21:20
rock music. Yeah. That's one
21:20
thing you're doing, which is
21:24
amazing. Oh, thank
21:26  Chris
you. Yeah, I mean, we, we
21:26
are, I try, I try to keep
21:30
everything like focused on a,
21:30
obviously, we want to put on a
21:38
good show and everything like
21:38
that, but like, we want to make
21:40
sure that everybody who is at
21:40
this show is having a good time,
21:46
you know, because I, I I did a
21:46
lot of entertainment stuff and
21:51
everything like that. And so I
21:51
really try to focus on the
21:56
crowd, what is the crowd into
21:56
what are we you know, and, and
22:00
pointing it out and
22:00
acknowledging it, you know,
22:01
like, like, making sure that we
22:01
are all in every single thing
22:05
together is a big thing for me.
22:05
Because, you know, I've been to
22:12
those shows where you feel so
22:12
disconnected from what's
22:16
happening on stage. And it just,
22:16
it's cool from like a fishbowl
22:21
perspective. But there's
22:21
something about knowing that
22:25
everybody is in there, going for
22:25
the same thing. And, and
22:29
especially when you're at a
22:29
concert, it's to put aside all
22:32
of the BS and exactly everything
22:32
that you went through in the
22:35
week, the day, whatever it is.
22:35
You're trying to get everything.
22:38
Yeah, I'm just here. You know,
22:38
let's exactly Yeah, exactly.
22:42
Exactly. So I like I like to
22:42
embrace that and and take that
22:46
and just say, we're all here.
22:46
We're all here to help each
22:49
other. We're all here to make
22:49
sure everybody's having a good
22:51
time. Yeah. And that's all there
22:51
is to it.
22:53  Trev
Definitely. That is rock
22:53
and roll with you. Chris, you
22:56
read it. You want to say same
22:56
wine. Sorry. I've been now going
23:00
on about.
23:02  Wayne
Yeah, no, it's okay. No,
23:02
Chris, I just wanted to say
23:07
like, I read that you hosted
23:07
your skills as a showman because
23:12
that's a big part of your act,
23:12
obviously and do as a karaoke
23:16
host. Oh, yeah. You love that
23:16
you love Aerosmith. Oh, sorry.
23:22
Yeah, sorry. Yeah, just how
23:22
important I mean, obviously,
23:26
it's important but how do you
23:26
how much importance do you put
23:29
on that side of it? There's an
23:29
entertainer and a showman as
23:32
well as a musician.
23:34  Chris
You know, I mean, I think
23:34
it's, I think it's the album's
23:40
are like the album's right. If
23:40
you want to hear crystallised
23:44
versions of the music and
23:44
everything like that, you go to
23:49
the you go to the record, if
23:49
you're going to a show, I expect
23:53
that you're going there for some
23:53
kind of entertainment. So I
23:56
think live wise, I put way more
23:56
energy into making sure that the
24:03
show is fun and energetic and
24:03
everything's going on. You know,
24:08
cuz it's, I've been to those
24:08
shows where the, you know, the
24:14
end, you know, some everybody
24:14
gets sick, or you know, whatever
24:17
is, you know, sometimes you had
24:17
a little too much fun the night
24:20
before, and this is what I made.
24:20
Yeah. Yeah, no, no, he has taken
24:28
us to Gabby's drink. Yeah,
24:28
exactly. Right. And it's just
24:32
like, yeah, I think I think when
24:32
you go to a show, you want some
24:37
form of entertainment. And I
24:37
think the best feeling for that
24:40
entertainment, that best energy
24:40
and that best vibe is when you
24:45
feel lockstep with the people
24:45
who are performing for you and
24:49
the people who are performing
24:49
with you, you know, and that's
24:52
why I tried to we try to put
24:52
this into the show as much as we
24:57
can, but we love our crowd
24:57
participation moment. We'd love
25:01
our I check in pretty often, you
25:01
know, in the middle of songs we
25:05
do. We, in fact, that's one
25:05
thing that because we just got
25:09
our new drummer, top band up, I
25:09
had a programme into him, I had
25:13
to say like, Alright, you are
25:13
just going to go and vamp on
25:18
this part until I give you the
25:18
cue to continue the rest of the
25:22
song. Yeah, you know, um, you
25:22
know, we bake a lot of that
25:27
stuff in there. Because Yeah, I
25:27
think, you know, and I think of
25:30
like, Aerosmith and Guns and
25:30
Roses and those kind of bands,
25:35
there was always that excitement
25:35
there. From the real people
25:43
playing it in front of you. And
25:43
there's always that little bit
25:45
of tinge of it, like, almost
25:45
could fall apart at any moment.
25:49
Like you can really tell, you
25:49
know, yeah, that's rock and
25:52
roll, isn't it? Yeah, that's
25:52
rock and roll. And
25:54  Trev
you never knew what the
25:54
next sort of even going back to
25:57
Jody Lewis and stuff. You didn't
25:57
know what he was going to do
26:00
next. That's not part of it.
26:00
Yeah.
26:02  Chris
And I think, and I don't
26:02
rehearse my speeches. I don't do
26:07
anything like that. So which has
26:07
gotten me in trouble a couple of
26:11
times, probably won't
26:13  Wayne
talk talking to getting
26:13
you in trouble. Chris. We, we,
26:17
we, we have a segment every week
26:17
on the show, which is just a bit
26:21
of fun, which is called test the
26:21
guest. And it's usually a
26:24
subject that the guest is
26:24
passionate about. Obviously,
26:27
it's about and we've chosen
26:27
Southern rock because obviously
26:30
that is what you're passionate
26:30
about. Funnily enough, it's just
26:33
a bit of fun. Funnily enough,
26:33
usually, Trevor gets trounced in
26:36
this, but he's actually quite
26:36
ofay with this because this is
26:41
his specialty subject. So this
26:41
would be a bit of a contest. So
26:44
because he's been around a
26:44
while, like myself, we're
26:46
getting on a bit. Just a bit of
26:46
fun. Are you okay to take part
26:52
in that, Chris?
26:53  Chris
All right. Yeah, sure.
26:53
I'm, I'm horrible with names,
26:56
dates and places. So let's do
26:56
it. Do be cool, man. You'll be
27:00
good with it. Brilliant.
27:01  Unknown
Great. All right. First
27:01
question to who shall I ask this
27:05
one today? Or ask this one to
27:05
trevita? buzzer
27:08  Wayne
I'm going to start with
27:08
you. I've got the buzzer. Oh,
27:11
okay. The Allman Brothers Band
27:11
paved the way for many other
27:16
southern Southern rock acts. In
27:16
what year was the band formed
27:19
strength? 1967 1968 1969 or
27:19
19 7063.
27:32  Unknown
Sorry to give you that
27:32
big break. Okay, you're off to a
27:35
good start.
27:37  Wayne
The big breakthrough came
27:37
in in 1969. Sorry, and the the
27:41
first album was a Fillmore east.
27:41
You're gonna say that when you
27:50
was now my next one for you,
27:50
Chris. This jacksonville florida
27:56
based band was Flirting with
27:56
Disaster to have their first
27:59
hit. Who were they? I think
27:59
you'll notice Well, yeah, no, of
28:02
course. You don't you don't need
28:02
to make the choice.
28:09  Trev
This Yeah. Well, I saw
28:09
that on your, on your stories
28:12
and stuff.
28:13  Chris
I mean, right now, right
28:13
now. bands are just figuring
28:17
their stuff out. Right? Yeah,
28:17
the world just turned on. So
28:21
we're kind of in this middle
28:21
ground between knowing what we
28:26
can do what we can't do, what is
28:26
allowable, what is not allowed.
28:31
So it just turned into a big
28:31
scheduling thing. And so we were
28:35
like, yeah, you know what, we're
28:35
just gonna do our it's it got
28:39
moved to August. So we're still
28:39
doing that show. But like, we
28:42
just decided, you know what,
28:42
hey, we're, we spent all this
28:46
time let's actually do a show.
28:46
So that's why
28:49  Wayne
I used to apply, which is
28:49
good. Oh, yeah. Brilliant. Super
28:52
brilliant. Yeah. Go again.
28:52
winded shorter trip. Number
28:56
three, how many members of
28:56
Leonard Skinner grow
28:59
unfortunately killed in their
28:59
tragic 1977 plane crash? I'll
29:03
give you the multiple choice.
29:03
Free members and a backup
29:07
singer. All original members
29:07
were killed. One member or two
29:13
members and a backup singer.
29:17  Trev
Steve Gaines, Ronnie Van
29:17
Zandt and Steve Gaines, sister.
29:23
So what you say and I think, and
29:23
then just a road manager and up
29:28
to two pilots or your
29:29  Wayne
name in all of them? I
29:29
think there were six. I mean,
29:34
that's good. I mean, it's good.
29:34
But
29:38  Unknown
Charlie was two and a
29:38
backup singer. Oh,
29:41  Wayne
well, does.
29:46  Trev
He because I saw that
29:46
controversial movie. They've
29:48
just rely on this. Paul. I was
29:48
going to push the rest of the
29:52
band hate it but I had to see.
29:55  Wayne
Question 40 you crisp?
29:55
All right, what Dixie rockers
29:58
told us to keep your head to
29:58
yourself in 1986 no land keep
30:04
your hands. He knows he doesn't
30:04
read out the multiple choice do
30:09
I? Oh, no, no. It's It's It's
30:09
like, right? Crazy. It's great.
30:17
Yeah, thanks.
30:21  Chris
It's a Georgia satellite.
30:21
Hey, man. What's funny is that
30:27
guy, guy behind it did another
30:27
band called the gay who's, who
30:34
did a version of Dancing Queen
30:34
by Abba. Who, that is where we
30:40
play that song in our set. And
30:40
that's where we got the idea of,
30:43
we kind of
30:44  Wayne
I was gonna, I was gonna
30:44
ask you about that, Chris. Yeah,
30:47
I've got that as a question. I
30:47
was gonna say Yeah, apparently
30:49
you opened up for ZZ Top Arizona
30:49
pike week with 20,000 bikers
30:54
rock into Dancing Queen. Did you
30:54
know we get away with that?
30:59  Chris
We didn't. We weren't we
30:59
were like this is either gonna
31:02
go over so bad. And we will be
31:02
thrown from the stage or
31:07
everybody's gonna love it. And
31:07
it was luckily it was the latter
31:11
but man there was the first
31:11
like, right before we got to the
31:17
first you can dance part it was
31:17
we were all just like on stage
31:21
like all right.
31:23  Trev
Brilliant. outfits. Did
31:23
you Chris? No. I hold truck
31:29
they're full of no idea if you'd
31:29
come walking out on that I've
31:34
been like, what's he gonna?
31:34
Yeah, that might have been.
31:38  Chris
At least we're wearing
31:38
all black. I think I had a
31:39
Motorhead shirt on you know like
31:39
we were able to like at least a
31:43
simulated
31:47  Wayne
trip question five to the
31:47
Elvin Bishop song fold around
31:51
fell in love was actually sung
31:51
by Mickey Thomas what rock
31:54
supergroup did Thomas later join
31:54
was it I Jefferson Starship? Be
32:00
the Eagles see journey or the
32:00
Fleetwood Mac
32:08  Unknown
this is gonna be a
32:08
guess. Go on. Yeah
32:15  Trev
for some reason I just
32:15
really want to go for journey I
32:18
know it's probably not but I
32:18
don't know is that your answer?
32:21
Yeah, go on.
32:26  Wayne
Jefferson Starship
32:26
Georgia, Georgia born Mickey
32:30
Thomas got his break when he
32:30
provided lead vocals on the 1976
32:33
Top Free hit fooled around and
32:33
fell in love he was alive thing
32:36
tribes so you should know that
32:36
Thanks, man.
32:44
Last question to Chris, which
32:44
are the seven rock bands
32:48
featured the younger brother of
32:48
a key Lynyrd Skinner's member.
32:52
Was it the Dixie dregs?
32:52
Blackfoot Ozark Mountain
32:55
daredevils? odd point fate?
32:55
Yeah, special.
33:02  Chris
Zach is our big Leonard
33:02
Skinner guy too, and he will
33:06
murder me I think it's right.
33:10  Wayne
I'd like to do this to
33:10
you Chris. I don't want to do
33:14
this to do so because Clean
33:14
Sweep is a special don't events
33:18
and younger brother Linda skin
33:18
and Ronnie Van Sant rocked it
33:21
out as co lead singer of point
33:21
48 special the band formed in
33:25
1975 to be fair is before your
33:25
time, so we can experience that
33:29
out. Yeah, I gotta get out.
33:32  Trev
token of Blackfoot I know
33:32
they're still going they're
33:34
still we call it token of like
33:34
ZZ Top being cool. How freaking
33:40
cool. Is Rickey Medlocke still?
33:42  Unknown
Oh, yeah. Oh yes. Did
33:44  Trev
incredible because I was a
33:44
huge Blackfoot fan. When
33:47
Marauder come out. I was about
33:47
1213. Right. It was just like, I
33:51
still think that that's probably
33:51
one of the best Southern rock
33:54
albums ever made. Yeah, gold is
33:54
just killer. It really is. And I
33:59
see Rickey Medlocke now and you
33:59
just think he's just the epitome
34:04
of coal. He's just still got
34:04
that passion for it. And the way
34:09
you even come back and he's
34:09
played with the new black
34:10
squares and the videos and stuff
34:10
you think that's well call that
34:14
this is still, you know, banging
34:14
out there. It's just yeah, you
34:19
just got that as he he really?
34:19
Yeah,
34:21  Chris
it's I mean, you know,
34:21
there's, there's something about
34:24
and I think that just comes
34:24
from, you know, years of, of
34:30
just doing it and success and
34:30
you know, we all hope to get to
34:33
that point of like self
34:33
actualization where it's like,
34:36
Yeah, man, cool. I'm just me,
34:36
I'm gonna keep doing this thing.
34:40
And that's what I do. And I, I
34:40
admire that spirit and that that
34:45
energy because you know, every
34:45
now and then I'll be like, Oh,
34:48
why didn't we get blah, blah,
34:48
blah, whatever. You know, when
34:54
you beat those people's like,
34:54
Oh, yeah, no, they're just,
34:57
they're just gonna do their
34:57
thing. And that's awesome.
34:59  Trev
Um, You've gone on to like
34:59
a you're on another record label
35:02
as you carry on record. It's
35:02
really weird because that the
35:06
name of that in England carry on
35:06
written something completely
35:10
different. Okay, is there like
35:10
real old established English
35:14
comedies from the 70s? Like
35:14
films are serious? Yes, they
35:18
are. Obviously
35:19  Wayne
very British century.
35:21  Trev
British. Yeah, right.
35:21
overly sexist from the 70s.
35:25
Like, boobs falling out. And
35:25
they just say, when I saw the
35:31
record label, you'd say, Yeah, I
35:31
suppose. Carry on records. Yeah.
35:34
How cool is that? It's just
35:34
like, but to you guys. It's just
35:38
another
35:38  Wayne
Yeah, it's just another
35:38
name. Yeah.
35:40  Trev
Now because obviously
35:40
turning stones was independent,
35:43
wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. You know,
35:43
did it independently. So sign
35:47
him for that record label. You
35:47
feel like it gives you more
35:50
freedom to do what you want to
35:50
do? You're not trying to be
35:54
anything else. You're, you are?
35:54
Yeah, that's good. Yeah. Cuz
35:57
like,
35:58  Chris
before that we had a lot
35:58
of identity issues. Because, you
36:08
know, we would hear from labels
36:08
and management and booking
36:13
agents and all these people who
36:13
are like, we'd like it. We don't
36:17
know what box to put it in. We
36:17
don't know. Is it country? Is it
36:22
rock? Is it this? Is it that
36:22
stuff? and carry on was the
36:28
first one that we talked to
36:28
where they're just like, yeah,
36:31
we want you guys to be you. And
36:31
so as we're in the, the
36:39
finishing stages of like, lining
36:39
up this next record, yeah, they
36:44
are, you know, it's, it's
36:44
everybody's kind of in it. And
36:49
it feels like, like, we don't
36:49
necessarily have to, like, prove
36:54
our sound anymore. And yeah,
36:54
that's that should be me. Yeah.
36:58
Cuz that I mean, yeah, we were
36:58
like, we'd had people say, like,
37:02
Oh, you you kind of sound like
37:02
the dude from shinedown you guys
37:05
should sing a sign shinedown
37:05
type song and we're like, well,
37:08
that's kind of not our
37:08
wheelhouse. We'll, we'll write
37:12
it and we'll see what it does.
37:12
But like, I don't feel
37:15
comfortable doing that, or we'd
37:15
have stuff like, you need to be
37:18
more old old country is that
37:18
it's still not kind of our vibe,
37:24
you know? And so this vague came
37:24
along and they're like, just do
37:28
you guys we just want to hear
37:28
more of that. So yeah, cool.
37:31
Yeah, yeah, got it. Let's do it.
37:31
Yeah,
37:35  Trev
very quickly, just sort of
37:35
sum up. Wine was telling me
37:39
earlier on. I don't know if it
37:39
is true is probably one of the
37:43
coolest heavy metal stories I've
37:43
ever heard. Oh, you are actually
37:48
in the room with your mom. Okay,
37:48
are you a Motley Crue gig? Oh,
37:55
yeah, that out does like the
37:55
heavy metal parking lot film.
38:00
Right? When wind told me about
38:00
that, I was like, that's the
38:03
most coolest heavy metal story
38:03
that you could ever sort of have
38:07
as a pre ball with that. said
38:07
you just kind of not matter in
38:17
the room straight away. You
38:17
would just
38:20  Chris
play it today. And I
38:20
heard it in there. Apparently I
38:24
was kicking a lot. So yeah, I
38:24
was really into it or not, but
38:28
I'm gonna lean on that. But
38:28
yeah,
38:34  Trev
we do parents that you
38:34
know not about that. Well, they
38:37
did they both just say son, do
38:37
you?
38:41  Chris
Oh, no, that was my mom
38:41
all day. Okay, that's that's
38:44
badge of honour. proudness right
38:44
there. So yeah. And she, you
38:49
know, I grew up around those
38:49
hair, metal type bands and
38:54
everything like yeah, that's why
38:54
I took a liking to like
38:57
Aerosmith and those kind of guys
38:57
show. So. But yeah, she's kind
39:01
of the reason that I'm now in
39:01
rock or whatever this is. And
39:08
yeah, yeah,
39:09  Wayne
it's restoring Christ.
39:09
Thanks, Chris. Yeah, please come
39:13
to the UK as soon as
39:13
everything's back to normal.
39:16
Yeah, we're looking forward to
39:16
seeing you.
39:17  Chris
As soon as we can ensure
39:17
that it's going to happen. I'll
39:20
let you guys know for sure.
39:22  Wayne
Well done for me in
39:22
treyvion is specialist subject
39:25
test the good stuff,
39:30  Trev
honestly. Now Chris, now
39:30
you can tell that Motley Crue
39:32
story to people and you can
39:32
follow up and said the UK
39:37
actually Trump's deeming
39:37
competition fair. Well, that Oh,
39:42
that's the next badge of honour.
39:42
You've got me.
39:45  Wayne
I got all added to my
39:45
whiteboard. Right up there.
39:51
Thanks for coming on. Man. Thank
39:51
you. Thanks so much. Thanks.
39:57
Take care. Well, I think Chris
39:57
was a really good spoke Trevi.
40:04
Yeah it really I had a feeling
40:04
he really enjoyed being your
40:06
tester. Guest
40:08  Trev
Yeah, most people do. I
40:08
like the whole idea of him not
40:14
knowing what the side carry on
40:14
thing.
40:16  Wayne
Yeah, yeah, that was good
40:16
cuz we find it hilarious
40:19  Trev
he soon as I read that
40:19
he'd signed to a record label
40:21
carry on. That's the first thing
40:21
I thought he said talking to
40:24
him, because he just had never
40:24
Clow actually I know but there's
40:27
a funny
40:27  Wayne
story actually isn't
40:27
there about how we got to
40:30
interview him? Because
40:30
obviously, we when we're doing
40:33
the podcast just a bit of
40:33
technical background here we use
40:35
different ways of speaking to
40:35
the guests. Obviously, at the
40:37
moment, it's all remote. So we
40:37
get the we confound the guest
40:41
and we plug them into all the it
40:41
was all technical stuff. But
40:45
when we got like three of us on
40:45
and obviously I don't want to be
40:47
calling in America for like 15
40:47
minutes. On my on my gear. Yeah,
40:52
so you normally should do
40:52
anyways be said I shouldn't be
40:54
doing stuff like that. I have
40:54
some memories. Yeah, I so we use
40:59
zoom, obviously. So, Trevor
40:59
Trevor, I think this was draves
41:03
forte. Actually, he arranged a
41:03
time with with Christopher
41:06
Shane's representatives to come
41:06
on zoom. And we left that link
41:11
to come on. I believe we might
41:11
have got the times wrong,
41:15
because Trev and I met online on
41:15
a Friday, and we're sitting
41:20
there having a drink and then
41:20
another drink online. He wasn't
41:26
he wasn't on plenty of fish. So
41:26
we're sitting there and it was
41:31
about four hours later and I
41:31
think we'd finished like a
41:33
bottle and a half of something
41:33
and and we fought out obviously
41:37
Chris wasn't turning up. So I
41:37
started just for fun because
41:40
we've had a few just playing a
41:40
bit of spitting image from the
41:43
1980s to Trek fans office which
41:43
we're big fans of and obviously
41:48
probably not suitable for an
41:48
audience these days so much but
41:51
we're playing that all of a
41:51
sudden I realised that Chris had
41:53
joined sort of on a lead just
41:53
out of the blue about one
41:57
o'clock in the morning or
41:57
something so straight into
42:00
action so you might be I tell
42:00
but what a good guy I talked
42:03
about what the ultimate front
42:03
man he is, isn't he?
42:06  Trev
Yeah. Oh yeah. Again, he's
42:06
got the mic stand he's got the
42:09
hair flick is what you want it
42:09
just changes things he just
42:14
makes you feel you're part of
42:14
it. You know, just the whole
42:17
kind of vegetable rock'n'roll
42:17
needs a shot in the arm bit of
42:20
adrenalin you know, he's better
42:20
call as well they're they're all
42:23
kind of in a way got the bass by
42:23
the Mohawk and staff and you've
42:27
got a guitarist and they'll go
42:27
in and stuff. You know, the
42:30
guitarist has got the mirror
42:30
shades and the whole look of it.
42:33
And sometimes you you know, I
42:33
know people should say Sony
42:36
Music certainly, you know what
42:36
they're doing, but, you know,
42:40
imaging stuff is cool. It draws
42:40
you eaten? Yeah, you know, you
42:43
don't need boring people you
42:43
meet enough boring people in
42:48
life. You don't need to be kind
42:48
of you know, they're not told,
42:53
you know, there's place for law
42:53
at all. But that total at all,
42:57
you know, now and again, you
42:57
just want to I'll tell you what,
43:00
we have Christmas music. I
43:00
listened to it a lot if I'm
43:04
running and stuff, because it's
43:04
three feet bouncy, it gives you
43:08
that kind of rocking I was gonna
43:08
say that you did Yeah. Right.
43:15
You know you need that kind of
43:15
thing. You don't Yeah, and to be
43:22
able to say now he just released
43:22
recently, like a video for a
43:26
surf company. No, yes, that's
43:26
right. Yeah, you hear it? You
43:30
can hear you listen to that. And
43:30
it has got that sort of
43:33
California open top Jeep kind of
43:33
driving along good weekend a few
43:38
beers fits in perfectly and we
43:38
all need that now what we've
43:42
been through we all need that
43:44  Wayne
thumbs up definitely we
43:44
could be on the vibe when when
43:47
these guys get over to the UK
43:47
definitely want to go and watch
43:50
you will be entertained. Yeah,
43:50
you could hear what he said. He
43:52
said we want the crowd to be
43:52
entertained. Exactly. Yeah, I'm
43:56
really looking forward to that
43:56
gig.
43:57  Trev
Yeah, so to be honest,
43:57
like get on like iTunes and get
44:01
on Spotify on downloads 10
44:01
higher Yeah, it's high and you
44:05
won't be disappointed you know
44:05
good drinking rock Yeah. Yeah,
44:10
that's what you know. I don't
44:10
know I keep saying it but that
44:13
we did. We need that. We want
44:13
good times back. We already do
44:16
and especially live keep coming
44:16
up now.
44:18  Wayne
Yeah, exactly. No, that's
44:18
true. how things are coming
44:21
back. There's good, Chris. We
44:21
really appreciate you joining us
44:24
Chris for that. Good luck to you
44:24
in the future.
44:27  Unknown
debates on my favourite
44:27
bands in the interview as well
44:30
as our Blackfoot.
44:30  Wayne
Yeah, he was really good
44:30
generous with his time. And
44:33
brilliant. So yeah, Christopher
44:33
saying music calm. Just Just
44:37
Google his name. You'll find all
44:37
the video videos online. And
44:41
watch the videos. As always,
44:41
thank you for listening to us.
44:44
If you go to our website, www
44:44
dot mlo podcast.com. If you
44:48
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44:48
Leave us a message and just tell
44:51
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44:51
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44:54
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44:54
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44:56
feedback. Thanks very much for
44:56
joining us. Any last words have
44:59
not Literally last words,
44:59
hopefully, but
45:02  Trev
I'm still alive. Just keep
45:02
the horns up. Yeah, definitely
45:06
James do keep your phones up,
45:06
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