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 2021-07-08  32m
 
 
00:01  James
Welcome
00:01
to
00:01
Portland.
00:02
Portland
00:02
is
00:02
sponsored
00:03
by
00:03
Buzzsprout.
00:04
Here's
00:04
fine.
00:04
Over
00:04
a
00:04
hundred
00:05
thousand
00:05
podcasters
00:06
like
00:06
us
00:06
to
00:06
host,
00:07
promote
00:07
and
00:07
track
00:08
your
00:08
podcast.
00:09
And
00:10
by
00:10
riverside.fm,
00:11
the
00:11
easiest
00:12
way
00:12
to
00:12
record
00:13
podcasts
00:13
and
00:14
video
00:14
interviews
00:14
in
00:15
studio
00:15
quality.
00:16
Anywhere
00:17
just
00:17
by
00:17
using
00:17
a
00:17
web
00:18
browser,
00:18
we're
00:18
using
00:19
it
00:19
now.
00:19
It's
00:20
the
00:20
8th
00:20
of
00:20
July,
00:21
2021.
00:22
I
00:22
James,
00:22
Credlin
00:22
the
00:23
editor
00:23
of
00:23
pod
00:23
news.net
00:24
here
00:25
in
00:25
Australia.
00:26  Sam
And
00:26
on
00:26
Sam
00:27
Sethi,
00:27
the
00:27
editor
00:27
of
00:27
Sam
00:28
Talks
00:28
Technology
00:29
here
00:29
in
00:30
the
00:30
UK
00:30
with
00:30
a
00:30
very
00:31
drunk
00:31
United
00:32
Kingdom.
00:32
Probably
00:33
not
00:33
going
00:33
to
00:33
work
00:33
today
00:34
as
00:34
we
00:35
won
00:35
the
00:35  Jim
football
00:35
yesterday.
00:36
And
00:36
I'm
00:37
Jim
00:37
Bellis
00:37
from
00:37
podcast
00:38
one
00:38
and
00:39
later
00:39
I'll
00:39
talk
00:39
about
00:39
a
00:40
new
00:40
free
00:40
podcast
00:41
hosting
00:41
and
00:42
distribution
00:42
platform.
00:43  James
He
00:44
will
00:44
pod
00:44
lands
00:45
a
00:45
weekly
00:45
podcast
00:46
where
00:46
Sam
00:46
and
00:46
I
00:46
delve
00:47
deeper
00:47
into
00:48
the
00:48
week's
00:48
podcast
00:49
news,
00:49
where
00:49
you're
00:49
watching
00:49
the
00:50
football
00:50
yesterday.
00:50
I
00:51
noticed
00:51
that
00:51
you
00:51
watched
00:52
some
00:52
football
00:52
game
00:53
in
00:53
a
00:53
park
00:54
over
00:54
the
00:54
weekend,
00:55
which
00:55
is
00:55
very
00:55
fancy.
00:56
Yes,
00:56
that
00:56  Sam
was
00:57
quite
00:57
hilarious.
00:58
Actually
00:58
it
00:58
was
00:58
England
00:58
Ukraine
00:59
and
01:00
it
01:00
was
01:00
a
01:00
comedy
01:00
night.
01:01
John
01:01
Bishop
01:02
and
01:03
they
01:03
couldn't
01:03
start
01:03
the
01:04
comedy.
01:04
Cause
01:04
every
01:04
time
01:05
they
01:05
started,
01:05
England
01:06
scored
01:06
a
01:06
goal.
01:06
So
01:06
they
01:07
decided
01:07
not
01:07
to
01:07
do
01:07
the
01:08
comedy
01:08
till
01:08
after
01:08
the
01:08
game.
01:09
So
01:09
we
01:09
all
01:10
ended
01:10
up
01:10
watching
01:10
the
01:10
game
01:10
in
01:11
a
01:11
park.
01:11
I
01:11
probably
01:11
make
01:11
sense.
01:12
Doesn't
01:12
it
01:12
here
01:12
in
01:13
Portland,
01:13
the
01:13
big
01:13
news
01:14
this
01:14
week
01:14
is
01:15
should
01:15
we
01:15
all
01:15
stop
01:15
using
01:16
audacity?
01:17
It
01:17
seems
01:17
or
01:18
dusty.
01:18
The
01:18
open
01:19
source
01:19
audio
01:20
editor
01:20
is
01:21
sharing
01:21
data
01:21
analytics
01:22
with
01:22
its
01:23
new
01:23
Russian
01:24
company
01:24
owner.
01:25
James,
01:25
tell
01:25
me
01:26
more.
01:26  James
I
01:26
have
01:26
to
01:26
say
01:27
I'm
01:27
completely
01:28
confused
01:28
by
01:28
it.
01:29
So
01:29
the
01:29
app,
01:30
which
01:30
is
01:30
an
01:30
open
01:30
source
01:31
app
01:31
was
01:31
acquired,
01:32
although
01:32
I'm
01:32
not
01:32
quite
01:33
sure
01:33
how
01:34
by
01:34
a
01:34
company
01:34
called
01:35
muse
01:35
group
01:36
in
01:36
may,
01:36
they're
01:37
a
01:37
company
01:37
based
01:37
in
01:37
Cyprus.
01:39
If
01:39
you
01:39
have
01:39
a
01:39
look
01:39
at
01:39
the
01:40
website
01:40
for
01:41
muse
01:41
group,
01:42
then
01:42
they
01:42
have
01:42
a
01:43
privacy
01:43
statement,
01:44
which
01:44
talks
01:44
about
01:44
their
01:45
company
01:45
in
01:45
California.
01:47
But
01:47
weirdly
01:47
this
01:48
time
01:48
they
01:48
are
01:49
trying
01:50
to.
01:50
Some
01:51
analytics
01:51
data,
01:52
not
01:52
that
01:52
much,
01:52
but
01:52
some
01:53
analytics
01:53
data
01:54
with
01:55
a
01:55
company
01:55
in
01:56
Cullinan
01:56
grant
01:57
in
01:57
Russia
01:58
which
01:58
is
01:58
all
01:59
very
01:59
exciting.
01:59
And
02:00
I
02:00
don't
02:00
think
02:00
anybody
02:01
really
02:01
Understands
02:01
what
02:02
it
02:02
is
02:02
they're
02:02
doing
02:02
and
02:03
may
02:03
they
02:03
try
02:03
to
02:03
add
02:04
analytics
02:04
through
02:05
Google
02:05
and
02:05
Yandex,
02:06
but
02:06
the
02:07
developers
02:08
all
02:08
of
02:08
the
02:08
open
02:08
source
02:09
community
02:09
were
02:10
very
02:10
Unhappy
02:11
about
02:12
that.
02:12
And
02:12
so
02:12
they
02:12
reversed
02:13
that,
02:14
but
02:14
what
02:14
they've
02:14
also
02:15
done
02:15
is
02:15
they've
02:15
requested
02:16
open
02:16
source
02:17
developers
02:17
to
02:18
sign
02:18
a
02:18
license
02:19
agreement,
02:20
to
02:20
contribute
02:20
new
02:21
code
02:21
to
02:21
audacity,
02:22
which
02:22
isn't
02:22
how
02:23
open
02:23
source
02:23
works.
02:24
So
02:25
it's.
02:26
A
02:26
little
02:26
bit
02:27
confusing.
02:27
I
02:27
don't
02:27
know
02:28
if
02:28
you
02:28
use
02:28
audacity
02:29
for
02:29
anything.
02:29
Sam
02:30  Sam
do
02:30
still.
02:31
I
02:31
loved
02:31
the
02:31
script,
02:32
but
02:32
when
02:32
I
02:32
want
02:32
to
02:32
use
02:33
music
02:33
to
02:33
auto
02:34
duck
02:34
underneath
02:35
the
02:35
voice
02:36
it's
02:36
just
02:36
too
02:37
complex,
02:37
still
02:37
in
02:38
D
02:38
script.
02:38
The
02:38
UI
02:39
doesn't
02:39
work.
02:40
So
02:40
I
02:40
switched
02:40
back
02:40
to
02:40
a
02:41
dusty,
02:41
which
02:41
makes
02:41
it
02:42
really
02:42
simple.
02:42  James
I
02:43
use
02:43
audacity
02:44
every
02:44
so
02:44
often.
02:44
from
02:45
my
02:45
point
02:45
of
02:45
view
02:46
it
02:46
needs
02:46
rather
02:47
a
02:47
lot
02:47
of
02:47
work
02:48
or
02:48
Udacity
02:48
to
02:49
make
02:49
it
02:49
work
02:50
a
02:50
little
02:50
bit
02:50
better
02:51
and
02:51
to
02:51
be
02:52
simpler
02:52
and
02:52
more
02:53
straightforward.
02:53
Do
02:53
you
02:53
know,
02:54
there
02:54
are
02:54
four
02:54
buttons
02:55
with
02:55
magnifying
02:56
glasses
02:56
on,
02:57
in
02:57
audacity
02:58
and
02:58
they
02:58
all
02:58
do
02:59
different
02:59
things,
03:00
which
03:00
is
03:00
brilliant,
03:01
well
03:01
done
03:01
or
03:01
dusty.
03:02
I,
03:02
so
03:02
if
03:03
they're
03:03
going
03:03
to
03:03
use
03:04
analytics
03:04
to.
03:06
Or
03:06
dusty
03:06
work
03:06
better
03:07
will.
03:07
Great.
03:08
I
03:08
think
03:08
that
03:08
is
03:09
a
03:09
sensible
03:09
plan.
03:10
The
03:11
difficulty
03:11
comes
03:12
with
03:13
audacity
03:14
shipping,
03:14
all
03:15
of
03:15
this
03:15
data
03:16
to
03:16
Russia.
03:17
and
03:17
here's
03:18
an
03:18
example
03:18
of
03:19
what
03:19
might
03:20
happen.
03:20
I'm
03:20
not
03:20
saying
03:21
it
03:21
well,
03:21
but
03:21
here's
03:22
an
03:22
example
03:22
what
03:22
might
03:23
happen.
03:24
It's
03:24
illegal,
03:24
for
03:25
example,
03:26
to
03:26
promote
03:26
inverted
03:27
commerce,
03:27
homosexuality
03:28
in
03:28
Russia.
03:29
So
03:29
if
03:29
you
03:29
want
03:30
to
03:30
make
03:30
a
03:30
podcast
03:31
celebrating
03:31
your
03:31
gay
03:31
lifestyle,
03:33
There's
03:33
nothing
03:34
actually
03:34
in
03:35
this
03:35
new
03:35
privacy
03:36
policy
03:37
that
03:37
says
03:37
that
03:37
they
03:37
can't
03:38
share
03:38
the
03:38
file
03:38
name
03:39
of
03:39
your
03:39
podcast
03:40
and
03:40
your
03:40
IP
03:40
address
03:41
with
03:41
the
03:41
Russian
03:41
people.
03:42
and
03:43
the
03:43
difficulty
03:43
is
03:43
that
03:44
your
03:44
IP
03:44
address
03:44
is
03:45
also
03:45
known
03:45
by
03:45
your
03:45
Russian
03:46
ISP
03:47
by
03:47
your
03:47
internet
03:48
company.
03:49
They
03:49
also
03:50
have
03:50
to
03:50
share
03:50
that
03:50
with
03:50
the
03:50
Russian
03:51
police
03:51
and
03:52
therefore,
03:52
if
03:52
you
03:52
are
03:52
making
03:53
a
03:53
pro-gay
03:54
podcast,
03:54
you
03:54
could
03:55
get
03:55
thrown
03:55
into
03:56
prison.
03:57
That
03:57
doesn't
03:57
sound
03:57
to
03:57
me
03:58
like
03:59
a
03:59
fantastic
04:00
plan.
04:00
And
04:00
I
04:00
think
04:00
if
04:01
this
04:01
was
04:01
being
04:01
done
04:02
by
04:02
audacity
04:03
in
04:03
California,
04:04
for
04:04
example
04:05
if
04:05
this
04:05
was
04:06
done
04:06
under
04:06
normal
04:07
EU
04:07
rules,
04:08
then
04:08
it
04:09
would
04:09
all
04:09
be
04:09
fine.
04:10
It's
04:10
just
04:10
the
04:10
fact
04:10
that
04:11
they
04:11
are
04:11
shipping
04:12
all
04:12
of
04:12
this
04:12
information
04:13
directly
04:14
to
04:15
Cullinin
04:16
grad
04:16
which
04:16
is
04:17
on
04:17
the
04:17
black
04:17
sea.
04:17
I
04:17
think
04:18
in
04:18
Russia,
04:19
it's
04:19
just
04:20
a
04:20
bit
04:20
weird
04:20
and
04:21
especially
04:21
with
04:21
everything
04:22
else
04:22
that
04:22
they're
04:22
doing
04:23
as
04:23
well.
04:23  Sam
it's
04:23
a
04:23
shame
04:24
because,
04:24
or
04:24
dusty
04:25
is
04:25
the
04:25
tool
04:25
that
04:25
many
04:26
podcasts.
04:27
To
04:28
start
04:28
editing
04:29
their
04:29
podcasts
04:30
with
04:30
cause
04:30
it's
04:30
free
04:31
and
04:31
it
04:31
is
04:31
quite
04:31
powerful.
04:32
you
04:32
can
04:33
do
04:33
quite
04:33
a
04:33
lot
04:33
with
04:33
it.
04:33  James
Now
04:34
they've
04:34
posted
04:34
a
04:34
quick
04:34
statement
04:35
to
04:35
address
04:35
the
04:35
concerns
04:36
around
04:36
the
04:37
new
04:37
privacy
04:37
policy.
04:38
They
04:38
say
04:38
it's
04:38
unclear
04:39
phrasing,
04:40
and
04:40
they're
04:40
going
04:40
to
04:41
publish
04:41
a
04:41
revised
04:42
version,
04:43
which
04:43
is
04:43
all
04:44
fine.
04:44
But
04:44
because
04:45
it's
04:45
open
04:45
source,
04:46
there
04:46
are
04:47
a
04:47
number
04:47
of
04:47
forks
04:48
which
04:48
are
04:48
already
04:49
available.
04:50
Which
04:50
have
04:51
taken
04:51
all
04:51
of
04:51
this
04:51
tracking
04:52
out.
04:52
so
04:52
that
04:53
won't
04:53
be
04:53
in
04:53
there.
04:54
and
04:54
of
04:54
course
04:54
there
04:54
are
04:55
plenty
04:55
of
04:55
other
04:56
audio
04:56
editors.
04:57
audacity
04:58
is
04:58
actually
04:59
not
04:59
that
04:59
good,
05:00
an
05:00
audio
05:00
to
05:00
search
05:01
for
05:01
something
05:01
complex,
05:02
like
05:02
a
05:02
podcast.
05:03
It's
05:03
fine
05:03
for,
05:04
the
05:04
old
05:04
quick
05:04
piece
05:05
of
05:05
work,
05:05
but
05:06
for
05:06
something
05:06
complex,
05:06
like
05:07
a
05:07
podcast,
05:07
because
05:08
it's.
05:08
disruptive
05:09
editor.
05:10
So
05:10
it
05:10
it's
05:10
very
05:10
difficult
05:11
to,
05:11
edit
05:12
stuff.
05:12
and
05:12
then
05:13
change
05:13
your
05:13
mind
05:13
afterwards.
05:14
frankly,
05:15
if
05:15
I
05:15
was
05:15
editing
05:16
a
05:16
podcast,
05:16
the
05:17
last
05:17
thing
05:17
I
05:17
would
05:17
use
05:18
would
05:18
be
05:18
audacity
05:18
anyway.
05:19
but
05:19
it
05:20
is
05:20
going
05:20
to
05:20
be
05:20
interesting
05:21
seeing
05:21
what
05:21
happens
05:22
to,
05:22
or
05:22
dusty
05:23
and
05:23
whether
05:23
or
05:23
not
05:23
we'll
05:23
actually
05:24
get
05:24
a
05:25
beautiful
05:25
app
05:26
that
05:26
actually
05:26
works
05:27
much
05:27
better
05:27
as
05:27
a
05:27
result
05:28
who
05:28
knows.
05:29
That
05:29
algebra
05:29
James
05:30
indeed,
05:31  Sam
now
05:31
RSS
05:32
open
05:33
or
05:33
a
05:33
closed
05:34
shut
05:34
case.
05:35
RSS
05:36
is
05:36
the
05:36
only
05:36
way
05:36
to
05:36
reach
05:37
everyone
05:37
and
05:37
the
05:37
only
05:38
way
05:38
to
05:38
make
05:39
money
05:39
everywhere.
05:40
According
05:40
to
05:41
our
05:41
CEO,
05:41
Ross
05:42
Adams,
05:42
he
05:43
gives
05:43
five
05:43
reasons
05:43
why
05:44
you
05:44
need
05:44
an
05:44
RSS
05:45
feed
05:45
for
05:45
your
05:46
show.
05:46
Meanwhile,
05:47
anchor
05:47
is
05:47
preparing
05:48
to
05:48
only
05:48
give
05:48
you
05:48
an
05:48
RSS
05:49
feed
05:49
for
05:49
your
05:50
podcast,
05:50
but
05:51
only
05:51
if
05:51
you
05:51
ask
05:52
for
05:52
one
05:52
James,
05:53
what's
05:53
going
05:53
on,
05:54
what
05:54
should
05:54
we
05:54
do?
05:55
Is
05:55
RSS
05:56
dead.
05:57  James
No.
05:57
RSS
05:58
isn't
05:58
dead.
05:58
And
05:59
I
05:59
think
05:59
it's
05:59
really
05:59
nice
06:00
seeing
06:00
Ross
06:00
Adams
06:01
coming
06:01
out
06:01
and
06:02
saying,
06:02
we
06:03
are
06:03
fully
06:04
behind
06:04
RSS.
06:05
RSS
06:05
is
06:05
a
06:05
really
06:06
important
06:06
way
06:07
of
06:08
the
06:08
way
06:08
that
06:08
podcasting
06:09
works
06:10
so
06:10
he's
06:10
given
06:10
five
06:11
reasons.
06:11
it's
06:12
the
06:12
only
06:12
way
06:12
to
06:12
reach
06:12
everyone
06:13
who
06:13
said.
06:14
Is
06:14
there
06:14
any
06:14
way
06:14
to
06:14
make
06:14
money
06:15
everywhere.
06:15
RSS
06:16
the
06:16
ecosystem,
06:17
promote
06:17
innovation
06:18
and
06:18
forward
06:18
thinking.
06:20
RSS
06:20
keeps
06:20
the
06:21
open
06:21
ecosystem
06:22
open,
06:23
and
06:23
then
06:23
finally
06:23
he
06:23
says,
06:24
and
06:24
I'm
06:24
not
06:24
entirely
06:25
sure
06:25
I
06:25
agree
06:26
with
06:26
him.
06:26
But
06:26
anyway,
06:26
he
06:26
says,
06:27
RSS
06:27
means
06:27
you
06:28
and
06:28
only
06:28
you
06:29
own
06:29
the
06:29
relationship
06:30
with
06:30
your
06:30
listeners.
06:31
and
06:31
I
06:31
think,
06:31
from
06:31
all
06:31
of
06:31
them,
06:32
It's
06:33
very
06:33
interesting.
06:34
Seeing
06:35
a
06:35
cast
06:35
position
06:36
themselves
06:37
as
06:37
being
06:38
behind
06:38
what
06:39
podcasting
06:39
is
06:40
all
06:40
about.
06:41
Whereas
06:41
you
06:41
then
06:41
have
06:42
a
06:42
look
06:42
at
06:42
for
06:43
example,
06:44
anchor
06:45
and
06:45
anchor
06:46
have
06:46
turned
06:46
around
06:46
and
06:47
said,
06:47
if
06:47
you
06:47
want
06:47
an
06:47
RSS
06:48
feed
06:48
in
06:48
future,
06:49
then
06:49
we'll
06:49
give
06:49
you
06:49
one,
06:50
but
06:50
you'll
06:50
have
06:50
to
06:50
ask
06:50
first.
06:51
Which
06:51
is
06:51
a
06:51
very
06:52
different
06:53
way
06:53
of
06:53
thinking
06:53
about
06:54
this.
06:54
great
06:55
to
06:55
see
06:56
a
06:56
cast
06:56
jumping
06:57
up
06:57
and
06:57
down
06:57
about
06:57
how
06:58
important
06:58
RSS
06:59
is.
06:59
I'm
07:00
sure
07:00
that
07:00
people
07:00
like
07:01
Dave
07:01
Jones
07:01
and
07:01
Adam
07:02
Curry
07:02
will
07:02
like
07:03
that
07:03
sort
07:03
of
07:04
talk
07:04
from
07:05
Ross
07:05
Adams.
07:06  Sam
there's
07:06
a
07:06
new
07:06
free
07:07
podcast
07:08
hosting
07:08
company
07:09
out
07:09
there,
07:09
James,
07:09
and
07:10
you've
07:10
got
07:10
an
07:10
interview
07:10
with
07:11
them.
07:11  James
Yes
07:12
there
07:12
is.
07:12
I
07:12
had
07:13
this
07:13
exclusive
07:14
in
07:15
pod
07:15
news
07:15
this
07:15
morning.
07:16
It's
07:16
not
07:16
necessarily
07:17
an
07:17
exclusive,
07:18
I
07:18
like
07:18
calling
07:19
them
07:19
first
07:19
looks
07:20
cause
07:20
people
07:20
get
07:20
very
07:20
upset
07:21
if
07:21
you
07:22
call
07:22
something
07:22
an
07:22
exclusive.
07:23
But
07:24
anyway,
07:24
the
07:24
folks
07:24
behind
07:25
podcast,
07:25
one
07:26
very
07:26
large
07:27
popular
07:28
podcast
07:29
publisher
07:29
in
07:29
the
07:29
U
07:29
S
07:30
have
07:30
launched
07:31
a
07:31
free
07:31
podcast
07:32
host
07:32
called
07:33
launchpad
07:34
one
07:35
and
07:35
launch
07:35
pad
07:35
one.
07:36
A
07:36
bunch
07:36
of
07:37
features,
07:37
including
07:38
access
07:38
to
07:39
some
07:39
of
07:39
the
07:39
biggest
07:40
podcasters
07:40
in
07:41
the
07:41
world.
07:41
I
07:41
caught
07:42
up
07:42
with
07:42
Jim
07:42
Balas.
07:43
Who's
07:43
the
07:44
chief
07:44
technology
07:45
officer
07:46
at
07:46
podcast
07:46  Jim
one.
07:47
We
07:47
are
07:48
one
07:48
of
07:48
the
07:48
large
07:49
podcast
07:49
publishing
07:50
and
07:50
distribution
07:51
sources
07:51
in
07:51
the
07:51
United.
07:52
We
07:52
host
07:53
over
07:53
200
07:54
some
07:54
podcasts
07:55
and
07:55
we
07:55
were
07:55
recently
07:56
acquired
07:56
in
07:56
the
07:56
last
07:57
year
07:57
by
07:57
a
07:57
company
07:57
called
07:58
live
07:58
by
07:58
live.
07:58
So
07:59
now
07:59
we're
07:59
helping
07:59
to
07:59
take
08:00
podcasts
08:01
from
08:01
audio,
08:01
which
08:01
was
08:02
our
08:02
specialty.
08:02
We're
08:03
moving
08:03
more
08:03
into
08:03
the
08:03
video
08:04
and
08:04
vodcasts
08:04
realm
08:05  James
as
08:05
well.
08:05
So
08:06
what
08:06
are
08:06
you
08:06
launching?
08:07  Jim
So
08:07
we're
08:07
launching
08:08
launchpad
08:09
one,
08:10
launchpad,
08:10
one.com.
08:11
It
08:11
is
08:11
a
08:12
completely
08:12
free.
08:13
Hosting
08:14
and
08:14
distribution
08:14
platform
08:15
for
08:15
anyone
08:15
to
08:16
be
08:16
available,
08:16
to
08:17
host
08:17
a
08:17
podcast,
08:18
all
08:18  James
major
08:19
channels.
08:19
So
08:20
you
08:20
launched
08:20
something
08:21
like
08:21
this.
08:21
I
08:21
think
08:21
two
08:22
years
08:22
ago,
08:22
I
08:22
remember
08:23
puppies
08:23
and
08:24
beer
08:24
at
08:25
podcast
08:25
movement.
08:26
That
08:26
was
08:26
a
08:26
winning
08:26
combination.
08:27
what's
08:28
different
08:28
with
08:28  Jim
launchpad.
08:29
it
08:29
was
08:29
a
08:29
winning
08:30
combination
08:31
and
08:31
it
08:31
was
08:31
a
08:31
lot
08:31
of
08:31
fun
08:31
and
08:32
launch
08:32
pad.
08:33
When
08:33
we
08:33
launched
08:34
it
08:34
two
08:34
years
08:34
ago,
08:35
it
08:35
was
08:35
a
08:35
great
08:35
product.
08:36
It
08:36
was
08:36
a
08:37
fun
08:37
product
08:38
and
08:38
it
08:38
was
08:38
very
08:38
much.
08:38
version
08:39
1.0,
08:40
And
08:41
just
08:41
through
08:41
the
08:42
way
08:42
that
08:42
time,
08:43
and
08:43
I
08:43
hate
08:43
to
08:44
blame
08:44
COVID
08:44
and
08:45
the
08:45
world
08:45
and
08:45
the
08:45
economy,
08:46
we
08:47
didn't
08:47
spend
08:47
a
08:47
lot
08:47
of
08:48
resources
08:48
developing
08:49
it
08:49
and
08:49
taking
08:50
it
08:50
to
08:50
what
08:50
I
08:51
was
08:51
hoping
08:51
a
08:51
phase
08:52
two
08:52
and
08:52
three
08:53
and
08:53
beyond
08:53
the
08:53
product
08:54
would
08:54
be.
08:55
So
08:55
since
08:55
we
08:55
were
08:56
acquired
08:56
by
08:56
live
08:57
a
08:57
big
08:57
focus
08:57
of
08:58
the
08:58
company,
08:59
Is
08:59
what
08:59
they
09:00
used
09:00
to
09:00
call
09:00
the
09:00
flywheel.
09:01
so
09:01
we
09:01
like
09:01
to
09:01
bring
09:02
town
09:02
in
09:02
one
09:03
vertical
09:03
and
09:03
help
09:04
them
09:04
to
09:04
go
09:04
amongst
09:05
all
09:05
other
09:06
facets.
09:06
So
09:07
live
09:07
by
09:07
live,
09:07
they
09:07
do
09:08
live
09:09
video
09:09
streaming
09:10
concert
09:10
events.
09:11
they
09:11
purchased
09:12
slacker
09:12
radio,
09:13
so
09:13
they
09:13
have
09:13
the
09:13
streaming
09:13
music
09:14
and
09:14
now
09:14
we're
09:14
their
09:15
podcast
09:15
arm.
09:15
so
09:16
our
09:16
goal
09:16
here
09:16
is
09:17
to
09:17
now
09:17
take
09:17
this
09:18
prod
09:18
form
09:18
and
09:18
use
09:19
this
09:19
as
09:19
a
09:19
vehicle
09:20
to
09:20
find.
09:21
The
09:21
next
09:21
grade
09:22
podcasts
09:22
are
09:22
that
09:22
can
09:23
not
09:23
only
09:23
flourish
09:23
at
09:24
somewhere
09:24
like
09:24
podcast
09:24
one,
09:25
but
09:25
then
09:25
can
09:26
be
09:26
brought
09:26
into
09:26
the
09:26
fold
09:27
with
09:27
live
09:27
by
09:27
live,
09:28
to
09:28
become
09:28
more
09:28
of
09:28
a
09:29
multi-platform
09:30  James
star.
09:31
Can
09:31
you
09:31
make
09:31
money
09:32
on
09:32
this
09:32
platform
09:32
as
09:32
a
09:33
podcaster?
09:34
How
09:34
does
09:34
that
09:34
work?
09:35
You
09:35
can.
09:36  Jim
So
09:36
for
09:36
starters,
09:37
we're
09:37
launching
09:37
with
09:38
PayPal
09:38
donation
09:39
like
09:39
features
09:40
that's
09:40
going
09:40
to
09:40
be
09:40
the
09:40
way
09:40
to
09:41
bring
09:41
it
09:41
in
09:41
the
09:41
outset.
09:42
And
09:42
of
09:42
course,
09:43
one
09:43
of
09:43
the
09:43
things
09:43
that
09:43
we
09:43
support
09:44
and
09:44
will
09:44
help
09:45
along
09:45
with
09:45
advice
09:46
and
09:46
what
09:46
we
09:46
can
09:46
do,
09:47
anything
09:47
you
09:47
sell
09:48
yourself
09:48
any
09:49
subscription,
09:49
sponsorships,
09:50
you
09:50
want
09:50
to
09:50
go
09:51
and
09:51
generate
09:51
all
09:52
you.
09:52
That's
09:52
not,
09:52
we
09:52
have
09:52
nothing
09:53
to
09:53
do
09:53
with
09:53
that.
09:53
We
09:53
don't
09:53
want
09:54
to
09:54
take
09:54
that.
09:55
We
09:55
have
09:56
things
09:56
in
09:56
the
09:56
coming
09:57
months
09:57
that
09:57
are
09:57
rolling
09:58
out
09:58
on
09:58
the
09:58
roadmap
09:58
as
09:58
well,
09:59
where
10:00
we're
10:00
going
10:00
to
10:00
be
10:00
building
10:00
in
10:01
pretty
10:01
robust
10:02
subscription
10:02
tools.
10:03
so
10:03
you
10:03
could
10:03
sell
10:04
premium
10:04
content,
10:05
a
10:05
show
10:05
level,
10:06
episode,
10:07
full
10:07
programs,
10:08
archives,
10:09
anything
10:10
you
10:10
want
10:10
to
10:10
do.
10:10
We're
10:10
building
10:11
that
10:11
process
10:11
out
10:12
now.
10:12
And
10:13
while
10:13
we
10:13
don't
10:13
offer
10:13
it
10:13
today,
10:14
what
10:14
we're
10:14
going
10:15
to
10:15
be
10:15
moving
10:15
into.
10:16
in
10:16
the
10:16
future
10:16
is
10:17
a
10:17
few
10:17
more
10:17
membership
10:18
tiers
10:18
that
10:18
won't
10:19
be
10:19
necessarily
10:19
strictly
10:20
free
10:20
tiers,
10:21
but
10:21
you'll
10:21
be
10:21
opt
10:22
into
10:22
advertising
10:23
and
10:23
opt
10:23
into
10:23
a
10:23
lot
10:23
more
10:24
control
10:24
over
10:25
that
10:25
as
10:25
well
10:25
as
10:25
being
10:25
able
10:26
to
10:26
do
10:26
exchanges
10:27
of
10:27
advertising
10:27
across
10:28
the
10:28
network
10:28
with
10:28
other
10:29
programs
10:29
and.
10:30
One
10:31
of
10:31
our
10:31
biggest
10:31
new
10:32
features
10:32
is
10:33
networks
10:34
almost.
10:34
So
10:35
what
10:35
we're
10:35
really
10:35
allowing
10:36
you
10:36
to
10:36
do,
10:36
and
10:37
there's
10:37
going
10:37
to
10:37
be
10:37
a
10:37
good
10:37
way
10:37
to
10:38
do
10:38
this
10:38
is
10:39
you
10:39
can
10:39
come
10:40
on
10:40
as
10:40
a
10:40
podcast
10:40
producer
10:41
as
10:42
a
10:42
company,
10:42
big
10:43
company,
10:43
small
10:43
company,
10:43
I'm
10:44
open
10:44
to
10:44
enterprise
10:45
level
10:45
here,
10:45
but.
10:46
you
10:46
can
10:46
come
10:46
and
10:46
make
10:46
a
10:46
sub
10:47
network
10:48
like
10:48
white
10:48
label
10:49
on
10:49
launch
10:49
pad
10:50
one.
10:50
So
10:51
we'll
10:51
help
10:51
facilitate
10:52
that
10:52
for
10:52
you.
10:52
So
10:52
you
10:53
can
10:53
actually
10:53
extend
10:53
it
10:54
out
10:54
to
10:55
your
10:55
network
10:55
of
10:55
people
10:56
or
10:56
have
10:56
a
10:56
subset
10:57
of
10:57
series
10:57
under
10:58
you.
10:58
So
10:58
we're
10:58
trying
10:58
to
10:58
build
10:59
a
10:59
whole.
11:00
More
11:00
community
11:01
podcasters,
11:02
and
11:02
there's
11:02
going
11:02
to
11:02
be
11:02
some
11:02
monetization
11:03
opportunities
11:03
there
11:04
with
11:04
networks
11:04
as
11:05
well
11:05
that
11:05
aren't
11:05
going
11:05
to
11:05
be
11:05
available
11:06
necessarily
11:06
just
11:06
for
11:06
single
11:07  James
show
11:07
offerings.
11:08
And
11:08
that's
11:08
a
11:08
big
11:08
difference.
11:08
Isn't
11:09
it?
11:09
Between
11:09
you
11:10
and
11:10
some
11:10
of
11:10
the
11:10
other
11:11
podcast
11:11
hosts
11:12
in
11:12
that
11:12
you're
11:12
building
11:13
this
11:13
specifically,
11:14
for
11:14
networks.
11:15
Networks
11:15
can
11:15
take
11:16
advantage
11:16
of
11:17
this
11:17
white
11:17
labeled,
11:18
branded
11:18
platforms
11:19
for
11:20
podcast
11:20
networks
11:21
as
11:21
well.
11:21
That's
11:22
is
11:22
that
11:22
something
11:23
that
11:23
you
11:23
see
11:23
particular
11:24
growth
11:24
in.
11:25  Jim
It
11:25
is.
11:25
I
11:26
think
11:26
that's
11:26
one
11:26
of
11:26
the
11:26
things
11:27
that
11:27
when
11:27
I
11:27
look
11:27
at
11:28
holes
11:28
amongst
11:29
the
11:29
industry
11:29
and
11:29
hosting
11:30
capacities,
11:30
I
11:30
don't
11:31
see
11:31
that
11:32
as
11:32
a
11:32
major
11:33
space.
11:34
And
11:35
from
11:35
the
11:35
last
11:35
time
11:35
we
11:35
were
11:36
a
11:36
movement
11:36
when
11:36
we
11:36
had
11:36
puppies
11:37
and
11:37
beer,
11:38
that
11:38
was
11:38
actually
11:38
one
11:38
of
11:38
the
11:38
things
11:39
that
11:39
came
11:39
up
11:39
a
11:39
lot
11:40
was
11:40
many
11:41
producers
11:41
that
11:42
may
11:42
be.
11:43
Not
11:43
in
11:43
one
11:43
of
11:44
the
11:44
major
11:44
metropolitan
11:45
areas
11:45
or
11:45
they
11:46
might
11:46
produce
11:47
10
11:47
or
11:47
12
11:47
podcasts,
11:48
not
11:48
having
11:48
a
11:48
place
11:49
they
11:49
can
11:49
go
11:49
to
11:49
and
11:50
have
11:50
one
11:51
log-in
11:51
or
11:51
even
11:52
offer
11:52
their
11:53
services
11:53
more
11:54
of
11:54
a
11:54
professional
11:54
without
11:54
getting
11:55
into
11:55
some
11:55
of
11:55
the
11:55
rules.
11:56
Heavy
11:57
lift
11:57
enterprise
11:58
level
11:58
stuff
11:58
out
11:59
there.
11:59
So
11:59
I
11:59
think
11:59
there's
11:59
a
12:00
void
12:00
to
12:00
be
12:00
filled
12:01
there
12:01
that
12:01
I
12:01
am
12:01
happy
12:02
to
12:02
develop
12:03
this
12:03
tool
12:03  James
and
12:03
you're
12:04
doing
12:04
some
12:04
quite
12:04
nice
12:04
stuff.
12:05
You're
12:05
importing,
12:05
apple
12:06
podcast
12:06
reviews
12:07
and
12:07
things
12:07
like
12:07
that
12:08
into
12:08
the
12:08
dashboard.
12:09
And
12:09
you
12:09
also
12:09
have
12:09
a
12:10
learning
12:10
center
12:11
called
12:11
launchpad.
12:12
Learn.
12:13
Tell
12:13
us
12:13
about
12:14  Jim
that.
12:14
Launchpad
12:15
learn
12:15
is
12:15
something
12:15
that
12:15
we're
12:15
excited
12:16
to
12:16
take
12:16
BW
12:16
here.
12:17
I
12:17
think
12:17
one
12:18
of
12:18
them.
12:19
One
12:19
of
12:19
the
12:19
nice
12:19
factors
12:20
of
12:20
being
12:20
associated
12:21
with
12:21
and
12:21
owned
12:21
with,
12:22
this
12:22
platform
12:22
we
12:22
owned
12:22
by
12:23
podcast
12:23
one
12:23
is
12:24
our
12:24
access
12:25
to
12:25
podcast
12:26
one.
12:26
not
12:27
only
12:27
from
12:27
a
12:28
yes,
12:29
we,
12:29
as
12:29
a
12:29
network
12:30
are
12:30
always
12:30
looking
12:30
for
12:31
good
12:31
podcasts.
12:32
There's
12:32
in
12:32
the
12:32
next
12:32
podcast.
12:33
There's
12:33
but.
12:34
We
12:34
also
12:35
have
12:35
the
12:35
luck
12:35
of
12:35
having
12:36
been
12:36
in
12:36
the
12:36
industry
12:36
for
12:37
a
12:37
long
12:37
time
12:37
and
12:38
having
12:39
a
12:39
lot
12:39
of
12:39
great
12:39
resources
12:40
in
12:40
a
12:40
lot
12:40
of
12:41
our
12:41
successful
12:41
podcasts.
12:42
So
12:43
with
12:43
launchpad
12:43
learn,
12:44
we've
12:44
decided
12:44
to
12:44
put
12:44
that
12:45
to
12:45
good
12:45
use.
12:45
And
12:46
we're
12:46
going
12:47
to
12:47
go
12:47
with
12:47
offering
12:47
articles
12:48
from
12:48
our
12:49
staff
12:49
and
12:49
professionals
12:50
that
12:50
are
12:50
in
12:50
the
12:50
industry,
12:51
as
12:51
well
12:51
as
12:51
having.
12:52
our
12:52
hosts
12:52
come
12:52
in
12:52
and
12:53
do
12:53
guest
12:53
posts
12:53
as
12:54
well
12:54
as
12:54
other
12:54
just
12:55
industry
12:55
experts
12:55
we
12:56
know
12:56
of,
12:56
and
12:56
that
12:56
are
12:56
willing
12:57
to,
12:57
and
12:57
wanting
12:57
to
12:57
contribute,
12:58
because
12:59
there's
12:59
so
12:59
much
13:00
out
13:00
there
13:00
that
13:00
you
13:00
can
13:00
learn
13:01
about
13:01
podcasting
13:02
and
13:02
how
13:02
to
13:02
podcast
13:02
and
13:03
tips
13:03
and
13:03
tricks
13:03
that
13:03
we
13:03
thought
13:04
what
13:05
better
13:05
thing
13:05
to
13:05
do
13:05
than
13:06
put
13:06
it
13:06
all
13:06
in
13:06
one