KMO and John Michael Greer continue the conversation which began on C-Realm Radio 004. JMG explains the rules of The Rescue Game, in which elites anoint groups of victims to console and perpetrators to punish. The game requires willing participants, and now that the previous occupants of the perpetrator role have refused to play, the game has entered the circular firing-squad phase in which the rescuers turn on each other for want of willing participants to play the role of perpetrator. Later, the conversation turns to H.P. Lovecraft. JMG has written a trilogy of novels which play with the places, characters and institutions from Lovecraft's stories but which turn Lovecraft's racism and xenophobia on its head.