Julie and Steve return! Carl and Richard talk to Julie Lerman and Steve Smith about their new version of the Domain-Driven Design Fundamentals course. The conversation starts focused on Open AI Codex, a project for writing code with the spoken (or typed) word - and how that is an example of focusing on domain implementation - because the AI is doing the functional implementation from your words! Julie and Steve also dig into how DDD has evolved since their original class in 2014, including using event storming to help gather all the important information around a project in an enjoyable way. Gathering domain information is important - implementations come later! Don't get stuck in the conference-driven development of the latest technology, better to focus on what is distinct to the business!