Marketing In Times of Recovery

Marketing In Times Of Crisis has changed its name to Marketing In Times of Recovery. It's still a bi-weekly interview-led podcast series featuring inspirational built environment business leaders but more with a look to the future. We’ve had to weather crisis’ before and podcast listeners hear lively conversations, jam-packed with hints, tips and takeaways that you can apply to your business now. Hosted by Ayo Abbas, Founder / Consultant, Abbas Marketing. Subscribe now, rate, review and help us to spread the word.


episode 15: Ep 15: Phones, People and Pancakes!!! with Graham Handley and Susie Lober [transcript]

Welcome to the latest episode of Marketing In Times of Crisis hosted by me, Ayo Abbas, a marketing consultant who specialises in all things built environment.  

Today's guests are someone I've known for years from when she worked at Foster and Partners and I was at Arup, fellow Marketing Consultant Susie Lober and one of her clients' Graham Handley who runs his own practice in Cambridge.  
It's an interesting fun chat that I really enjoyed and I hope you do too. 

Key takeaways

  • Marketing is all about relationships and making human connections. Make sure you keep in touch and don't be afraid to pick up the phone. 
  • Word of Mouth and your digital presence are important, once you start, make sure you keep everything current.
  • Be yourself and do marketing that represents what's important to you (pancakes, books etc :).  It'll resonate with your clients too.

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Graham Handley Architects
Abbas Marketing website
Lober Marketing

Recorded on Friday 15 January 2021. 


 2021-02-12  30m