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328: ‘The Warden’s Dilemma’, With Ben Thompson


Dithering CEO Ben Thompson returns to the show to go deep on the concept of the metaverse.

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Links:

  • Ben’s piece at Stratechery on the metaverse and the enterprise.
  • Ben’s interview with Mark Zuckerberg.
  • Facebook’s 2021 Connect keynote.
  • Steven Levy’s interview with Niantic Labs founder and CEO John Hanke: “AR Is Where the Real Metaverse Is Going to Happen”.
  • WALL-E’s dystopian vision of compulsive VR/AR addiction.
  • Dithering: Two episodes per week, 15 minutes per episode. Not a minute less, not a minute more.

This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.


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 November 13, 2021  1h58m