On Jacobin Radio, Gabriel Winant, whose recent article in Dissent on “The New Working Class” looks at the Democrats' cluelessness about today's workers. And Joe Allen, a former UPS worker and author of The Package King, A Rank and File History as well as "Going Brown," a recent Jacobin article on UPS in San Francisco, on UPS and the restructuring of the working class, plus Amazon's recent purchase of Whole Foods and what it means for logistics and organizing.