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Can Stories Save The World? Writing For The Environment With Denise Baden



The relentless news about climate change can leave us despondent — but what if we can use fiction to help people with positive ideas of what the future could look like and the actions we can take to change things? Denise Baden talks about the power of eco-fiction and explains the Green Stories Novel Prize, sponsored by Orna Ross.







Denise Baden is Professor of sustainable business at the University of Southampton in the UK. She's also a screenwriter and novelist and founded the series of Green Stories Writing Competitions.



You can listen above or on your favorite podcast app or read the notes and links below. Here are the highlights and the full transcript is below.



Show Notes



* How stories can change minds* How to smuggle green ideas into stories rather than preaching* What is eco-fiction?* The Green Stories Novel and Short Story Competitions* Environmental issues in publishing



Click here to check out the Green Stories Novel Award and remember, there are short story awards and more, so even if the novel one isn't for you, maybe enter something else!



You can find Denise Baden at DABaden.com and on Twitter @DABadenauthor



Transcript of Interview with Denise Baden



Joanna: Denise Baden is a professor of sustainable business at the University of Southampton in the UK. She's also a screenwriter and novelist and founded the series of Green Stories Writing Competitions. Welcome, Denise.



Denise: Hello, nice to be here.



Joanna: Oh, great to talk to you about this topic.



Tell us a bit more about you and how you got into writing and also sustainability and environmental issues.



Denise: I've had a bit of a butterfly background. I actually worked as a sales rep for publishers many years ago. But I couldn't do that once I became a mum, so I went back to university and I did a bit of psychology.



I was harassing them on their green policies and not having a recycling bin. So when the person teaching business ethics, which is one of the things we're also doing, left, I got put in charge of that, and then I ended up doing stuff on sustainability. So that's my academic career, and also I've done articles on that.



I think I was inspired to be a greeny by a fictional book myself, which is why I'm quite interested in writing fiction. So I read Stark. It must have been back in the early '90s by Ben Elton.



Joanna: Oh, me too. I remember that one.



Denise: I'm not sure if it still stands the test of time, but I thought it was brilliant at the time. It was really fun. And right in the middle of this love story epic adventure, he says something like, ‘Dave was a water birth, but he died soon after being born.' It turns out that Dave is a dolphin that got caught up in a tuna net.



And I thought, ‘Hang on a minute. I can buy dolphin-friendly tuna.'



I never would have chosen to read a green-themed book. I read for fun.


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