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Dr. Krishna Bhatta

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Dr. Krishna

Bhatta, Ed Watters

Ed Watters 

00:00

Recently,

I had the unique opportunity to sit down and speak with Dr. Krishna Bhatta. Dr.

Bhatta is a surgeon, an inventor, an author, and so much more. But what we

talked about with Dr. Bhatta was a personal side of Dr. Bhatta. His willingness

to sit down and teach us all about what he's learned about the inner silence

and developing skills to calm yourself under any situation. It was a pleasure

to talk with Dr. Bhatta. Let's not waste any more time and get into this great

interview. To overcome, you must educate. Educate not only yourself but

educate anyone seeking to learn. We are all Dead America. We can all learn

something. To learn, we must challenge what we already understand. The way we

do that is through conversation. Sometimes we have conversations with others.

However, some of the best conversations happen with ourselves. Reach Out and

challenge yourself. Let's dive in and learn something right now. Today, we have

Dr. Krishna Bhatta with us. He is a surgeon, an author, and an inventor, a

fabulous person to talk with. Let's get right into it.

Ed Watters 

02:59

Dr.

Bhatta, could you please introduce yourself and let our audience know what you

do and how you became who you are today?

Dr. Krishna Bhatta  03:09

Ed,

thanks for having me on your show. And it's a great pleasure to be beginning of

the new year. So a belated Happy New Year to you and to your audience. I'm a

urologist by profession. I've had a career in medicine and also parallel

meditation, which is not a career but for my personal growth. And now I'm

willing to share and I have started sharing with people my experience and my

growth in that area.

Dr. Krishna Bhatta  03:47

Looking

into you, you have had a fascinating life. And you've experienced so much. What

we're going to talk a little bit about today is finding yourself through

intermittent silence, the power of inner theater, also some power of inner

conversation, which I really love. Could we start with intermittent silence and

let our audience know what exactly is intermittent silence?

Dr. Krishna Bhatta  04:22

Ed,

Let's start with two questions for the new year. One is, who controls what you

do? And the second one is do you understand that? That's good to hear. Many

people or many of us just do things but we don't know who is in control.

Sometimes it's our belief systems, sometimes it's our customs that we grow, and

sometimes it's just social norms that dictate what we do. So, getting the

control in your hands is more important for whatever you do. Even if it is a

glass of water or a cup of coffee, you are not doing it just because you have

done every day, you do it because you actively want that coffee. And it's in

your control we can say no to. And the second one is spending time with

yourself. Most of us spend time with other people or with our digital world and

not give our brain a rest or be with ourselves. And that is where intermittent

silence practice comes in. On a regular basis people who practice silence, they

have gone for retreats for 10 day silence or 10 day meditation retreats. But

bringing it into daily life is what intermittent silence is. A 10 minute

practice of silence does to you. And it has some wonderful effects in noise. We

were going to explore some of them.

Ed Watters 

06:07

The

ability to just be quiet and set and absorb the surrounding. It's a remarkable

experience. And I really highly recommend people do it often. Absorb nature

around you, the sounds, the sights, the smells. And to do it properly, you

really have to know how to observe silence. It's not easy to do, especially in

this world that we live in today. quieting the mind enough to experience this

silence. Do you have tricks for people to get to that place?

Dr. Krishna Bhatta  06:56

Yes, so

this is a practice of intermittent silence, I have structured it in a way that

it makes it easier to do because there is a pathway to this. It is as you said,

uncomfortable to be silent, even for 10 minutes. It's much easier to do guided

meditation for two hours compared to being just quiet, silent for 10 minutes.

The steps are, there are four steps to intermittent silence. One is close your

mouth. When you close your mouth, you are closing everything about the speech,

processing of thoughts, and the brain cells that are active during that

expression and communication part. They are all arrested for those 10 minutes.

The second part is to close your eyes. When you close your eyes, all the

neurons and neuron pathways with vision or visual stimulus or processing they

are arrested, but also the power of observation. Eyes are also observing

outside when you have open eyes. Now you can turn it inwards. The third one is

silent listening, as you mentioned, you listen to all the sounds around you.

And the fourth one is silently watching your thoughts. Just let it pass

through. The thoughts of, some people try to focus it or some people try to

bring it to a point where the thoughts disappear. But those things are not

going to happen. One way to express is, I can tell a story. It's a kind of a

made up story. And think of, you know, Professor Tom Thinker. And he decides

one, one day to explore what watching of thoughts is like, because everyone

says it's like watching the traffic go by. So he decides to go and stand in the

middle of Mass Pike in Boston in highway and just wants to watch the traffic

from within the traffic. And it sounds like he's doing something dumb. But

that's what many people do when they do meditation or they, when they meditate

with thoughts. They try to stop the thoughts. It's like  stopping an 18 Wheeler on the highway. That's

not what you can do or you're supposed to do either with the 18 Wheeler or with

your thoughts. You have to stand on the side. And then watch it go by because

the traffic is not going to stop. And the same way the minding is not going to

stop. In the process, when you get to a point where you are watching your

thoughts and listening silently to the sound of the nature and observing inside

and not processing any thoughts, or you know what you're going to say. New

doors open, and actually, energy waves that start happening and that's why we

say ride the wave of energy inside. It's not an empty space. It's a space full

of energy that you actually, once it starts rising, you start feeling this

energy is like goosebumps when you feel something or when you are in love. You

feel something that happens that you can never explain. And that's where you

want to be, and not trying to stop the thought or quiet the thought or, you

know, make the thoughts go away, because that's not going to happen.

Dr. Krishna Bhatta  11:03

With

this silence. I notice meditation comes in many forms. And a lot of people add

music to meditation. Do you see that as a good thing or a bad thing?

Dr. Krishna Bhatta  11:21

No, I

mean, there is nothing bad. So then even in the practice of silence, you cannot

do anything wrong. Even if your thoughts take you away, hijack you, once you

realize you can start watching again. So there is nothing you can do wrong in

this 10 minutes of intermittent silence. Now coming to meditation. Meditation

is such a huge world. And, you know, if you start looking, there are 1000s, of

meditations. And everybody has some guided meditations and music meditations of,

varieties of meditation. And there is nothing wrong with music and guided

meditation. So here is the thing, all meditations, they have these four

components that I said, intermittent silence has a part of that. You can

combine music, it becomes a music meditation, you combine the breathing, it

becomes a breathing meditation. But in all of them, you have to watch your

thoughts. You have to watch your silence, sounds. So those two things are

common. Most people will prefer to close their eyes, some people will say half

close their eyes. And you're always closing your mouth. So what I have done is

that I have taken kind of an instance out of meditation, and a basic package,

which is a complete package in itself as intermittent silence, which you can

combine with any meditation.

Dr. Krishna Bhatta  12:59

Let's

carry on with this meditation a little bit further. What is the base reason

behind people meditating? Why would people want to meditate in the first place?

Dr. Krishna Bhatta  13:12

I think

that's a very good question. And I do want to make my point here again. Most of

the meditation that has been talked about, at least in the West, you are told

that you do it to become peaceful. You do it to reduce anxiety, to, to reduce

your blood pressure or diabetes. And that's not the real purpose for

meditation. If I have hypertension or blood pressure, I can easily take a pill

rather than do meditation one hour a day, for so many years to get there, and

may not get there. Those are by products of meditation or side effects, which

are good. But those should not be the primary reasons for meditation, I think

meditation should be exploring the inner universe that you have. So, in some

ways, let me say that you, when you do intermittent silence in practice, you

are going to the source, which I use the word called flame of consciousness, or

your individual consciousness, which is basically pure energy in some sorts. So

you go to the source, you find the force, you feel the force, use the force, to

create inner conversation or inner theater. And you bring that force with you.

So it's like a Star Wars, let the force be with you. And it actually happens

when you do, at least for two or three months, any of the meditation or just

the practice of intermittent silence will do that as well. And then you can

feel that energy that can stay with you, and use that inner universe for other

purposes. So the beginning is just going inside and being quiet for 10 minutes.

But then you can start, as you mentioned in the beginning of your program, the

inner theater, inner conversation, then it becomes productive. So it's not just

an empty place you are going to, but you are coming with some positive energy.

And one of the things is, the higher the energy you have, the more peaceful you

become. The lower the energy more irritable you are.

Ed Watters 

15:50

yeah,

I've, I've actually experienced that. So I recognize what you're saying there.

So tell us about the power of inner theater. What is that?

Dr. Krishna Bhatta  16:05

So the power

of inner theater, after you have done this intermittent silence, or we had to

practice this silence for a few months, on a regular basis. And my

recommendation, and it's not just my recommendation it's recommendation of most

spiritual people is, if you do the same time, same place, same technique, you

have compounded effects. So you have done that, now you have been used to

creating or knowing your inner universe. Now, you go there and create a

scenario, suppose you have a presentation coming up. So you can say, okay, you

can create a whole inner theater where you have that Hall, you have the stage,

you have the microphone, and it's your space, you control that space. So you

can create the positivity, the world, the one that you want. And you can do the,

rehearse the whole speech there. Before you go and act it out in the real

world. And this inner theater can be used for practicing anything of this sort.

Whether it is a surgery, or it's a, there is a book on power, positive

imagining, by Reverend Vincent Peale. And he explores that positive, positive

imagining part quite a bit. Not in the same fashion I'm describing, but

basically, you can image everything not just positive thinking, but create

images, powerful images inside you, like you know, you have powerful dreams

sometimes. But this can be a controlled atmosphere that you get yourself in. A

theater you can make, and create, and work on.

Ed Watters 

18:02

Yeah,

that's a powerful tool to have. Touching on spirituality and the, the power

that we create through our intention or our attitude. This is heavy when we

confront ourselves in life, you just said, the level of intensity gives that

emotion and power. There are forces here that a lot of us don't really

understand. But it's like they feed off of us and we kind of feed off of them.

Can you help explain that alittle bit? 

Dr. Krishna Bhatta  18:54

That is,

basically you mentioned the power of intention. And the way we practice power

of intention, or most people do is we use our mind to do that. Whether it is

power of intention or power of compassion, for all those words that we use for

resilience, what I am saying is that make it come out of your inner universe.

And one way to do that is to have that inner theater where you can interact and

bring these things out from there. So you are bringing from your inside, you're

not just doing it from your mind, which is outside. Do you get the difference?

Dr. Krishna Bhatta  19:42

Yes. So

having those inner conversations, that's very important when we actually have

to challenge what we already believe, what we already know, and try to

understand truth and make logic out of that. I love having conversations with

myself. Probably more than I like having conversations with others, because it

helps me prime myself to have the conversation with others. And that's that

inner theater part of it.

Dr. Krishna Bhatta  20:24

So the

inner conversation, Ed, one is what you said, you can talk to yourself. But the

inner conversation is, the way I see it here, is that inner universe that you

go to when you are practicing intermittant silence. Is the source for all

creativity, is the source for all ideas, source of all music. Because if you

talk to totally invent people who invent people, who, you know, think of some

things that they write, they will say it came to me. Where did it come from?

And I always called this Jack Canfield, who wrote that Chicken Soup for the

Soul. And he says, what, how he got the title, he closed his eyes, and let

things come to him. And then, you know, out came this, the whole idea of the

title. But that's what I'm talking about. There are two kinds of inner

conversation that become powerful. One is, once you go there, let things come,

let the solutions come to you. If you have an issue, sleep on it, practice, go,

go into your inner universe through intermittant silence. And then let things

come to you and they do start coming to you. Ideas start coming, answers start

coming and that is one part of inner conversation. The other part is, if you

have something that you want to brainstorm, where else is the best place than,

other than quiet place, your inner universe, you go there and just let it

float. You know, you are used to watching your thoughts. Now you can take that

one thought and just process there. And it's a, it's a wonderfully place to do

it. The only thing is, you can only know and confirm it by doing it yourself.

Ed Watters 

22:27

Okay,

how often should we practice this silence in our life?

Dr. Krishna Bhatta  22:33

It's 10

minutes a day. That's what I propose. And there is an app that I created,

Relaxx, with two x's. And that has a timer. You know, it gives you some

instructions for a minute.  Then there is

a timer, 10 minute silence, and there is a music at the end. It's so funny,

because I was saying, I in Maine, I go to the coast, or I go hiking, and I will

lay down on the rock and just close my eyes and put the app on. And 10 minutes

later I get up and it's wonderful. And somebody I was talking to from the west

coast area and they said, well, you can do that in Maine, but here there is

mountain lions. So actually snakes, I don't know how. So you have to find your

safety. The safety is important too.

Dr. Krishna Bhatta  23:33

Yes,

Let's talk