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episode 86: Hip Hop Shakespeare and Increasing Diversity in Classical Theatre with Josh Thomas, Caitlin Carbone Hernandez, and Fools & Madmen


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Welcome to an inspiring episode of "The Truth in This Art"! Join host Rob Lee as he engages in a captivating conversation with Josh Thomas and Caitlin Carbone Hernandez, theatre artists in Baltimore City dedicated to increasing diversity in classical theatre. Together, they form Fools and Madmen, a dynamic collaboration that brings a fresh and contemporary twist to Shakespeare's plays through hip-hop adaptations.

In this episode, we delve into:

  • The origins of Fools and Madmen and the story behind Josh and Caitlin's journey as theatre artists in Baltimore.
  • The innovative thinking behind infusing Shakespeare's classic works with a contemporary hip-hop flair bridged the gap between traditional theatre and modern cultural expressions.
  • The importance of accessibility and inclusivity in classical theatre, as Josh and Caitlin believe that Shakespeare's plays belong to everyone and should be accessible to all.
  • The creative process of integrating hip-hop elements into Shakespearean texts creates a unique blend of classical and modern language, poetry, and music.
  • The impact of their productions on increasing diversity in classical theatre, challenging existing perceptions, and opening doors for underrepresented voices.
  • The artistic decisions and challenges involved in merging two seemingly different art forms and creating performances that resonate with diverse audiences.
  • The influence of other artists on their work, the power of collaboration, and the delicate balance between inspiration and appropriation.


Join us for an enlightening conversation as we explore the transformative power of hip-hop Shakespeare and the journey of Josh Thomas and Caitlin Carbone Hernandez in reshaping classical theatre through diversity and inclusivity.


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Original music by Daniel Alexis Music with additional music from Chipzard.

Episode illustration by Alley Kid Art.

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 July 7, 2022  35m