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episode 138: Become a Super Learner with Collin Jewett [transcript]


Today's guest is Collin Jewett, industrial engineer, author, coach, adventurer, and founder of Curiosity Jump LLC.  We'll chat about how to rediscover a childlike sense of adventure in everyday life. 

Collin works with clients to help them become super learners. First, it's important to let go of the idea that learning has to be unpleasant or painful. People are born with the curiosity and ability to learn, but the skills become rusty.

Cultivating curiosity will open the door to thinking creatively. Creativity really is just the process of finding solutions, so supply your mind with questions. Collin also works within the imagination and the ability to vividly use all of your senses when envisioning situations and practicing skills.

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 2022-09-11  25m
 
 
01:00  Magic Barclay
Welcome
01:00
back
01:01
to
01:01
a
01:01
magical
01:01
life.
01:02
I'm
01:02
your
01:02
host
01:02
magic
01:03
Barclay.
01:03
And
01:03
I'm
01:04
again,
01:04
joined
01:04
today
01:05
by
01:05
Colin.
01:07
Now
01:07
in
01:07
1
01:08
37
01:08
of
01:08
this
01:09
podcast,
01:10
we
01:10
were
01:11
learning
01:12
about
01:12
our
01:12
unique
01:13
brain.
01:14
And
01:14
in
01:14
this
01:15
episode,
01:15
Colin,
01:16
the
01:16
floor
01:16
is
01:16
yours.
01:17
Tell
01:17
us
01:17
how
01:18
we
01:18
can
01:18
become
01:19
super
01:19
learners.
01:22  Colin Jewett
oh
01:23
man.
01:24
How
01:24
much
01:24
time
01:24
do
01:24
we
01:24
have?
01:25
Do
01:25
we
01:25
have
01:25
six
01:25
hours?
01:27
I'll
01:27
do
01:27
my
01:27
best,
01:28
So,
01:29
uh,
01:30
one
01:30
thing
01:30
I
01:30
I'd
01:30
love
01:30
to
01:31
share
01:31
with
01:31
your
01:31
listeners,
01:32
is
01:33
maybe
01:33
a
01:33
different
01:34
model
01:34
of,
01:35
of
01:35
learning
01:36
than
01:36
they
01:36
are
01:37
familiar
01:37
with,
01:38
or
01:38
maybe
01:38
they
01:38
thought
01:38
of
01:38
in
01:38
school.
01:39
So.
01:41
A
01:41
lot
01:41
of
01:41
people
01:42
kind
01:42
of
01:42
come
01:42
up
01:42
with
01:43
different
01:43
ideas,
01:44
uh,
01:44
about
01:44
learning
01:45
and
01:45
how
01:45
it
01:45
works
01:46
as
01:46
they
01:46
go
01:46
through.
01:47
Especially
01:47
if
01:47
they
01:47
go
01:48
through
01:48
what
01:48
we
01:49
would
01:49
consider
01:49
nowadays
01:50
to
01:50
be
01:50
a
01:50
traditional
01:51
education
01:51
system,
01:52
though.
01:52
It
01:52
really
01:52
hasn't
01:52
been
01:53
around
01:53
for
01:53
that
01:53
long,
01:53
which
01:54
is
01:54
interesting.
01:55
I
01:55
won't
01:55
get
01:55
into
01:55
education,
01:56
uh,
01:56
history
01:57
here,
01:57
cuz
01:57
I
01:57
think
01:58
that'll
01:58
turn
01:59
it
01:59
into
01:59
a
01:59
six
01:59
hour
01:59
episode.
02:00
But,
02:00
um,
02:02
one
02:02
thing
02:02
I
02:02
think
02:02
a
02:02
lot
02:03
of
02:03
people,
02:04
this
02:04
misconception
02:05
that
02:05
people
02:05
form
02:06
around
02:06
learning
02:06
is
02:07
learning.
02:07
First
02:07
of
02:07
all,
02:08
it's
02:08
something
02:08
that
02:08
is.
02:10
Kind
02:10
of
02:10
unpleasant.
02:11
It's
02:11
not
02:11
something
02:12
that
02:12
you
02:13
really
02:13
enjoy
02:13
doing
02:14
for
02:14
the
02:14
most
02:14
part.
02:15
It's
02:15
kind
02:15
of
02:15
something
02:15
that
02:15
you
02:16
have
02:16
to
02:16
slog
02:16
through.
02:16
It's
02:16
something
02:17
you
02:17
have
02:17
to
02:17
grind
02:17
through.
02:18
Uh,
02:19
so
02:19
that,
02:19
I
02:19
think
02:19
that
02:19
is,
02:20
is
02:20
one
02:20
result
02:21
of,
02:21
you
02:21
know,
02:22
the
02:22
traditional
02:22
education
02:23
system.
02:23
If,
02:24
if
02:24
you
02:24
were.
02:25
Assigned
02:26
homework
02:26
that
02:26
you
02:26
didn't
02:27
wanna
02:27
do.
02:27
If
02:27
you
02:27
had
02:28
to
02:28
study
02:28
for
02:28
tests
02:28
that
02:29
you
02:29
just
02:29
didn't
02:29
really
02:29
care
02:30
about,
02:30
or
02:30
you
02:30
had
02:30
to
02:31
take
02:31
classes
02:31
that
02:31
you
02:31
weren't
02:32
interested
02:32
in,
02:33
all
02:33
of
02:33
those
02:34
things,
02:34
I
02:34
think
02:35
really
02:35
over
02:35
time
02:36
contribute
02:36
to
02:36
that
02:36
idea.
02:37
That
02:37
man
02:37
learning
02:37
is
02:38
just
02:38
not
02:38
something
02:39
that
02:39
is
02:39
fun.
02:39
It's
02:39
definitely
02:40
not
02:40
something
02:40
I'd
02:40
sign
02:41
up
02:41
for.
02:42
Um,
02:43
so
02:43
if
02:43
I
02:43
have
02:43
to
02:43
do
02:43
that,
02:44
you
02:44
know,
02:44
that's
02:45
gonna
02:45
be
02:45
a
02:45
miserable
02:45
time.
02:47
And
02:48
I
02:48
think
02:48
that,
02:48
that
02:48
idea,
02:49
I
02:49
think
02:50
is
02:50
one
02:50
of
02:50
the
02:50
most
02:50
co
02:50
counterproductive
02:51
idea.
02:52
You
02:52
can
02:53
hold
02:53
onto.
02:53
I,
02:54
I
02:54
mean,
02:54
I
02:54
don't
02:54
just
02:54
mean
02:55
about
02:55
learning.
02:55
I
02:55
mean,
02:55
about
02:56
life
02:56
in
02:56
general,
02:58
uh,
02:58
because
02:58
life
02:59
is
02:59
learning.
02:59
And
03:00
so
03:00
if
03:00
you
03:00
think
03:00
about
03:01
learning
03:01
as
03:01
just
03:01
being
03:01
this
03:02
miserable
03:02
thing,
03:02
well,
03:03
your
03:03
life,
03:04
isn't
03:04
gonna
03:04
be
03:04
very
03:04
fun.
03:05
There's
03:05
gonna
03:05
be
03:06
a
03:06
lot
03:06
of
03:06
parts
03:06
of
03:07
it.
03:07
You
03:07
just
03:07
really
03:07
don't
03:08
enjoy.
03:08
It's
03:08
gonna
03:09
be
03:09
gray.
03:09
I
03:09
talked
03:10
about
03:10
that.
03:10
And
03:10
then
03:10
the
03:11
last
03:11
episode,
03:11
a
03:11
little
03:11
bit,
03:12
how
03:12
things
03:12
just
03:12
kinda
03:12
lose
03:13
their
03:13
color
03:13
over
03:14
time.
03:15
And
03:15
I
03:15
think
03:16
that
03:16
is
03:16
partially.
03:17
Um,
03:18
can
03:18
be
03:18
attributed
03:19
to
03:19
that
03:20
reframing
03:20
of
03:21
learning
03:21
as
03:21
being
03:21
something
03:22
that's
03:22
miserable.
03:22
And
03:22
we
03:22
don't
03:23
start
03:23
out
03:23
that
03:23
way.
03:24
I
03:24
think
03:24
that's
03:24
another
03:24
important
03:25
thing.
03:26
Uh,
03:26
like
03:26
if
03:26
you
03:26
look
03:26
at
03:27
children,
03:27
right
03:27
when
03:27
they're
03:27
born,
03:29
They
03:29
start
03:29
exploring
03:30
the
03:30
world
03:30
immediately.
03:31
Like
03:31
they
03:31
don't
03:32
just
03:32
come
03:32
out
03:32
and
03:33
well,
03:33
I
03:33
mean,
03:33
I
03:33
guess
03:34
they
03:34
do
03:34
have
03:34
their
03:34
eyes
03:34
closed
03:35
usually
03:35
at
03:35
the
03:35
beginning,
03:36
but,
03:36
but
03:36
very
03:37
quickly
03:37
they
03:37
are
03:38
looking
03:38
around.
03:38
They're
03:38
taking
03:39
things
03:39
in,
03:40
they're
03:40
trying
03:40
to
03:41
figure
03:41
out
03:41
how
03:41
their
03:41
body
03:41
works.
03:42
They're
03:42
moving
03:42
around
03:43
and.
03:44
Without
03:44
really
03:44
anyone
03:45
teaching
03:45
them
03:45
how,
03:46
like
03:46
in
03:46
a
03:46
traditional
03:47
classroom
03:47
setting,
03:47
it's
03:47
not
03:48
like
03:48
we
03:48
immediately,
03:49
uh,
03:49
pop
03:49
out
03:49
the
03:49
baby
03:50
and
03:50
put
03:51
'em
03:51
in
03:51
a
03:51
chair
03:51
and
03:51
have
03:52
a
03:52
lecturer
03:52
standing
03:53
up
03:53
front,
03:53
telling
03:53
them,
03:53
all
03:54
right.
03:54
Now
03:54
I'm
03:54
gonna
03:54
teach
03:54
you
03:55
how
03:55
to
03:55
walk
03:55
and
03:56
how
03:56
to
03:56
talk
03:56
and
03:57
how
03:57
to
03:57
move
03:57
your
03:57
fingers
03:58
and
03:58
all
03:58
that
03:58
thing
03:58
like
03:59
that
03:59
doesn't
03:59
happen.
04:00
Right.
04:00
You
04:00
know?
04:01
Uh,
04:01
so
04:02
these
04:02
kids,
04:03
when
04:04
you're
04:04
born,
04:04
you
04:04
figure
04:05
out
04:05
all
04:05
this
04:05
stuff
04:06
on
04:06
your
04:06
own
04:07
and,
04:07
and,
04:08
and
04:08
you.
04:09
Pleasure
04:09
in
04:09
it.
04:10
It's
04:10
something
04:10
that's
04:10
exciting.
04:11
It's
04:11
something
04:12
that's
04:12
fun.
04:13
And
04:13
you
04:13
can
04:14
see
04:14
this
04:14
with
04:14
kids.
04:14
Like
04:15
sure.
04:15
They'll
04:15
have
04:16
frustration.
04:16
Of
04:16
course
04:17
they'll
04:17
have
04:17
frustration.
04:18
That's
04:18
part
04:18
of
04:18
learning
04:18
too,
04:19
but
04:19
it
04:19
can
04:19
be
04:19
a
04:19
healthy
04:20
part
04:20
but
04:21
they
04:21
also,
04:21
they
04:22
find
04:22
so
04:22
much
04:22
pleasure
04:23
in
04:23
it.
04:23
And
04:23
you
04:23
can
04:23
tell
04:23
this
04:23
from,
04:24
uh,
04:25
kids
04:25
want
04:25
to
04:25
play
04:26
the
04:26
same
04:26
game
04:26
over
04:27
and
04:27
over
04:28
and
04:28
over
04:28
again.
04:28
You'll
04:28
hear
04:29
them
04:29
say
04:29
again
04:29
again
04:30
again.
04:31
and
04:31
why
04:31
is
04:32
that?
04:32
Why
04:32
is
04:32
that
04:32
so
04:32
interesting
04:33
and
04:33
fun
04:33
to
04:33
them?
04:33
Well,
04:34
it's
04:34
because
04:35
that's
04:35
the
04:35
engaging
04:36
part
04:36
of
04:36
learning
04:37
that,
04:37
that
04:37
wonder
04:38
of
04:38
learning
04:38
that
04:39
interest
04:39
in
04:39
the
04:39
world
04:40
around
04:40
you.
04:40
That's
04:41
that,
04:41
that's
04:41
what
04:41
you're
04:41
seeing
04:42
and
04:43
we're
04:43
born
04:43
with
04:43
that.
04:43
It's
04:44
innate.
04:44
So
04:44
I
04:44
would
04:44
consider
04:45
curiosity
04:46
to
04:46
be
04:47
one
04:47
of
04:47
those
04:47
things.
04:47
That's
04:47
innate
04:48
in
04:48
us.
04:48
It
04:48
makes
04:49
a
04:49
lot
04:49
of
04:49
sense
04:49
if
04:49
you
04:49
think
04:50
about
04:50
it.
04:50
So
04:51
like
04:51
from
04:51
a
04:51
survival
04:52
standpoint,
04:53
if
04:54
we
04:54
were
04:54
born
04:54
with,
04:55
um,
04:56
an
04:56
innate
04:56
disinterest
04:57
in
04:57
the
04:57
world
04:58
around.
04:59
We
04:59
wouldn't
04:59
last
05:00
very
05:00
long
05:01
we
05:02
wouldn't
05:02
learn
05:02
the
05:02
things
05:03
that
05:03
we
05:03
need
05:03
to
05:03
survive.
05:04
You
05:05
know,
05:05
we'd
05:05
come
05:05
out
05:05
and
05:05
we'd
05:05
immediately
05:06
look
05:06
for
05:06
some
05:06
place
05:07
to
05:07
curl
05:07
up
05:07
and,
05:08
and
05:08
sleep
05:09
for
05:09
as
05:09
long
05:10
as
05:10
we
05:10
possibly
05:10
could,
05:10
until
05:11
some
05:11
horrible
05:12
creature
05:12
came
05:12
and
05:12
ate
05:12
us.
05:13
It
05:13
wouldn't
05:13
be
05:13
very
05:13
effective,
05:14
you
05:14
know?
05:15
So
05:15
we're
05:15
born
05:15
with
05:15
this
05:16
in
05:16
eight
05:16
drive
05:16
to
05:17
understand
05:18
ourselves
05:18
and
05:18
understand
05:19
the
05:19
world
05:19
around
05:19
us.
05:19
And
05:19
I
05:20
would
05:20
call
05:20
that
05:20
curiosity.
05:21
It's
05:21
that
05:21
it's
05:21
that
05:21
natural
05:22
sense
05:22
of
05:22
wonder
05:23
that
05:23
we.
05:24
And
05:25
I
05:25
think
05:25
one
05:25
of
05:25
the
05:25
reasons
05:26
why
05:26
we
05:26
also
05:26
lose
05:27
that
05:27
over
05:27
time
05:28
is
05:28
because
05:29
it
05:29
feels
05:31
less
05:31
necessary.
05:34
Like
05:35
as
05:35
you
05:35
grow
05:35
up,
05:36
you
05:36
kind
05:36
of,
05:37
you
05:37
kind
05:37
of
05:38
find
05:38
your
05:38
rhythms,
05:38
right?
05:39
You
05:39
find
05:39
the
05:39
things
05:39
that
05:39
work.
05:42
And
05:42
once
05:42
you
05:42
find
05:42
things
05:42
that
05:43
work,
05:43
I
05:43
think,
05:43
I
05:44
think
05:44
that's
05:44
a
05:44
double
05:44
edged
05:44
sword
05:45
cuz
05:45
on
05:45
the
05:45
one
05:45
sense
05:46
it's
05:46
it's
05:46
great.
05:46
Cuz
05:46
Hey,
05:47
you've
05:47
got
05:47
things
05:47
that
05:47
work
05:47
and
05:48
that's
05:48
better
05:48
than
05:48
things
05:49
that
05:49
don't
05:49
work
05:49
for
05:49
sure.
05:51
But
05:51
on
05:51
the
05:51
other
05:51
side
05:51
of
05:51
things,
05:52
it
05:52
can
05:52
cause
05:53
you
05:53
to
05:53
stop
05:53
exploring,
05:54
especially
05:54
when
05:55
paired
05:55
with
05:55
that,
05:55
that
05:56
idea,
05:56
that
05:56
learning
05:56
is
05:57
something
05:57
that's
05:57
miserable.
05:58
You
05:58
know,
05:59
once
05:59
you've
05:59
learned
05:59
enough,
06:00
why
06:00
learn
06:00
anymore?
06:01
you
06:02
know,
06:02
why
06:02
go
06:02
through
06:02
that
06:02
process?
06:04
So
06:04
I
06:04
think
06:05
it's
06:05
really
06:05
important
06:05
to,
06:06
to
06:06
kind
06:06
of
06:06
hearken
06:06
back
06:07
to
06:07
your
06:08
youngest
06:09
years.
06:09
And
06:09
maybe
06:09
you
06:09
can't
06:09
remember
06:10
'em
06:10
so
06:10
maybe
06:10
you
06:10
need
06:11
to
06:11
look
06:11
at
06:11
some,
06:12
uh,
06:12
find
06:13
some
06:13
kids
06:13
and
06:13
watch
06:13
them
06:13
for
06:14
a
06:14
while.
06:14
Maybe
06:14
if
06:15
you
06:15
have
06:15
your
06:15
own
06:15
kids,
06:15
this
06:15
would
06:15
be
06:16
great,
06:16
you
06:16
know,
06:16
pay
06:17
attention
06:17
to.
06:18
What
06:19
it
06:19
is
06:19
that
06:19
they
06:19
find.
06:20
So
06:21
enrapturing
06:22
about
06:22
the
06:22
world
06:22
around
06:23
them
06:23
because
06:23
it's
06:23
still
06:24
there.
06:24
It
06:24
hasn't
06:25
gone
06:25
anywhere
06:25
and
06:25
it's
06:26
not
06:26
boring.
06:26
It's,
06:26
that's
06:27
actually
06:27
fascinating.
06:28
I
06:28
think
06:28
they've
06:28
got
06:29
that
06:29
part,
06:29
right?
06:29
I
06:29
think
06:30
our,
06:30
our
06:30
kids
06:31
have
06:31
that
06:31
part,
06:31
right.
06:32
The
06:32
world
06:32
really
06:32
is
06:33
a
06:33
beautiful,
06:35
incredible,
06:36
fascinating
06:37
place.
06:37
It's
06:37
also
06:38
a
06:38
terrible
06:38
place.
06:39
It's
06:39
also
06:39
a
06:39
terrifying
06:40
place,
06:41
but
06:41
I.
06:42
that
06:42
dualistic
06:42
nature,
06:43
the
06:43
dark
06:43
side
06:43
and
06:43
the
06:43
light
06:44
side
06:44
next
06:44
to
06:44
each
06:45
other
06:45
is
06:45
part
06:45
of
06:45
what
06:45
makes
06:45
it
06:46
so
06:46
interesting.
06:46
And
06:46
so,
06:47
I
06:47
would
06:47
use
06:47
that,
06:48
example
06:48
of
06:48
children,
06:49
as,
06:49
evidence
06:50
to
06:50
the
06:50
fact
06:50
that
06:50
learning
06:51
isn't
06:51
something
06:51
that
06:51
is
06:51
just
06:52
inherently
06:53
miserable
06:54
or
06:54
something
06:54
that
06:54
you
06:54
should
06:55
try
06:55
to
06:55
avoid,
06:56
or
06:56
that
06:56
you're
06:56
wired
06:57
to
06:57
avoid.
06:59
I
06:59
think
06:59
that's
06:59
also
07:00
a,
07:00
a
07:00
really
07:00
strong
07:00
misconception
07:01
that
07:02
people
07:02
are
07:02
naturally.
07:03
Lazy.
07:04
Like
07:04
if
07:05
we
07:05
had
07:05
the
07:05
option
07:06
to,
07:06
we
07:06
would,
07:07
you
07:07
know,
07:08
find
07:08
a
07:08
sofa
07:09
somewhere
07:09
and
07:09
we'd
07:09
try
07:09
to
07:10
just
07:10
sit
07:10
there
07:10
and
07:10
do
07:10
nothing
07:11
for
07:11
the
07:11
rest
07:11
of
07:11
our
07:11
lives.
07:13
and
07:13
that's
07:13
really,
07:13
obviously
07:14
not
07:14
the
07:14
case.
07:15
I
07:15
mean,
07:16
um,
07:16
one
07:16
example,
07:17
people
07:17
could
07:17
point
07:17
to
07:17
that
07:18
people
07:18
are
07:18
lazy
07:18
is
07:18
that
07:19
you
07:19
see
07:19
them
07:20
they're
07:20
on
07:20
their
07:20
phones
07:20
all
07:21
the
07:21
time.
07:22
And
07:22
I
07:23
would
07:23
actually
07:23
point
07:23
to
07:23
that
07:24
as
07:24
evidence
07:24
of
07:24
the
07:24
exact
07:25
opposite.
07:25
I
07:25
mean,
07:26
the
07:26
reason
07:26
people
07:27
are
07:27
constantly
07:27
scrolling
07:28
through
07:28
their
07:28
phones
07:28
is
07:28
because
07:29
they're
07:29
addicted
07:29
in
07:29
a
07:29
sense
07:30
to
07:30
novelty.
07:31
They're
07:31
really
07:31
interested
07:32
in
07:32
things,
07:33
and
07:33
that's
07:33
a
07:33
really
07:33
good
07:34
source
07:34
of
07:35
new
07:35
things.
07:36
looking
07:36
at
07:36
your
07:36
phone
07:37
all
07:37
the
07:37
time.
07:38
And
07:38
though
07:38
I
07:38
think
07:38
it's
07:38
not
07:38
the
07:38
best
07:39
source.
07:40
Um,
07:40
and
07:41
it
07:41
has
07:41
some
07:41
negative
07:41
consequences,
07:42
but
07:42
I
07:42
do
07:43
think
07:43
it's
07:43
evidence
07:44
to
07:44
the
07:44
fact
07:44
that
07:45
you
07:45
know,
07:45
of
07:46
this
07:46
truth,
07:46
that
07:46
all
07:46
throughout
07:47
human
07:47
history,
07:48
we.
07:49
Creatures
07:49
that
07:49
are
07:50
super
07:51
interested
07:51
in
07:51
the
07:51
world
07:51
around
07:52
us.
07:53
And
07:53
so,
07:54
alright.
07:54
That
07:54
that'll
07:55
be,
07:55
uh,
07:55
my,
07:56
my
07:56
first
07:56
stopping
07:57
point
07:57
with
07:57
curiosity.
07:58
Do
07:58
you
07:58
have
07:58
any
07:59
thoughts
07:59
on
07:59
that?
08:00  Magic Barclay
I
08:01
do.
08:02
People
08:02
often
08:02
see
08:03
curiosity
08:04
as
08:04
something
08:04
dangerous.
08:06
Like
08:06
if
08:06
I
08:06
open
08:07
that
08:07
door,
08:07
what
08:07
if
08:07
the
08:08
monsters
08:08
hiding
08:08
behind
08:09
it
08:09
to
08:10
eat
08:10
me?
08:11
But
08:11
you
08:11
need
08:12
to
08:12
look
08:12
at
08:12
that
08:13
on
08:13
the
08:13
flip
08:14
side.
08:15
What
08:15
if
08:15
I
08:15
open
08:16
that
08:16
door
08:16
and
08:16
something
08:17
fabulous
08:17
is
08:17
there
08:19
and
08:19
something
08:19
that
08:19
I
08:19
would
08:20
never
08:20
have
08:20
found
08:21
before
08:22
will
08:22
be
08:22
part
08:22
of
08:22
my
08:23
life.
08:23
And
08:24
I
08:24
think
08:24
as
08:24
adults,
08:25
we
08:25
definitely
08:26
try,
08:27
well,
08:27
not
08:28
that
08:28
we
08:28
try,
08:28
but
08:29
we're
08:29
almost
08:29
conditioned,
08:30
as
08:30
you
08:30
said
08:31
to
08:31
look
08:32
at
08:32
that
08:32
darker
08:32
side,
08:34
same
08:34
as
08:35
you
08:35
know,
08:35
on
08:35
your
08:35
phone.
08:36
You're
08:36
not
08:36
just
08:36
passing
08:37
time.
08:37
Exactly.
08:38
Right.
08:38
You
08:38
are.
08:40
Learning
08:40
something,
08:41
whether
08:41
you're
08:41
on
08:42
social
08:42
media
08:42
and
08:43
you
08:43
want
08:43
to
08:43
learn
08:43
about
08:44
what
08:44
other
08:44
people
08:45
are
08:45
doing,
08:46
or
08:46
you
08:46
want
08:46
to
08:47
learn
08:47
about
08:48
what's
08:48
going
08:48
on
08:48
in
08:48
the
08:49
world,
08:49
or
08:51
you
08:51
want
08:51
a
08:51
laugh.
08:53
So
08:53
you
08:53
want
08:53
to
08:53
learn
08:54
how
08:54
to
08:54
relax
08:55
and
08:55
laugh
08:55
at
08:56
a
08:56
meme
08:56
or
08:56
something
08:57
like
08:59
you're
08:59
not
08:59
just
09:00
wasting
09:00
your
09:00
time
09:00
on
09:01
your
09:01
phone.
09:02
Your
09:03
brain
09:03
is
09:03
saying,
09:04
I
09:04
need
09:04
some
09:04
information.
09:06
And
09:06
so
09:06
listening
09:07
to
09:07
your
09:07
brain
09:08
at
09:08
that
09:08
point
09:09
is
09:09
the
09:09
critical
09:10
moment.
09:13  Colin Jewett
Yeah,
09:14
absolutely.
09:14
And,
09:15
and
09:15
I
09:15
wanted
09:15
to
09:15
point
09:16
point
09:16
out
09:16
something
09:17
you
09:17
said
09:17
there,
09:17
you
09:17
talked
09:18
about
09:18
the,
09:18
the
09:19
door
09:19
with
09:19
the
09:19
monster
09:20
behind
09:20
it.
09:21
And
09:21
I
09:21
think
09:21
that's
09:22
an
09:22
idea
09:23
that
09:23
I
09:23
think
09:23
we,
09:24
there
09:24
might
09:25
be
09:25
something
09:25
innate
09:25
with
09:25
that
09:26
too.
09:26
I'm
09:26
not,
09:26
I'm
09:27
not
09:27
entirely
09:27
sure
09:27
about
09:28
that.
09:28
I
09:28
know
09:28
that,
09:29
you
09:29
know,
09:30
to
09:30
some
09:30
extent
09:31
we
09:32
are
09:32
biologically
09:33
hardwired
09:33
to
09:33
be
09:34
more
09:34
scared
09:35
of
09:35
some
09:35
things
09:35
than
09:35
others,
09:36
like
09:36
the
09:36
dark,
09:36
for
09:37
example.
09:38
Um,
09:38
so
09:38
that's
09:38
kind
09:39
of
09:39
interesting,
09:40
but
09:41
as
09:41
children,
09:41
they
09:41
also,
09:42
while
09:42
they're
09:42
also,
09:43
um,
09:43
you
09:44
know,
09:44
enraptured
09:44
by
09:44
the
09:45
world
09:45
and
09:45
they
09:45
think
09:45
it's
09:46
amazing.
09:47
They're
09:47
also
09:47
terrified
09:48
of
09:48
a
09:48
lot
09:48
of
09:48
things.
09:49
and
09:49
I
09:49
think
09:50
rightfully
09:50
so.
09:51
And
09:51
so
09:51
I
09:51
think
09:51
it's
09:52
important
09:52
to
09:52
recognize
09:53
the
09:53
value
09:54
of
09:54
both
09:54
sides.
09:56
Like
09:56
it's,
09:56
it's
09:56
not,
09:57
I'm
09:57
not
09:57
trying
09:57
to
09:57
say
09:58
I
09:58
hate
09:58
the
09:58
world's
09:58
all
09:59
rainbows
09:59
roses
10:00
and
10:00
flowers
10:00
and
10:00
unicorns.
10:01
Cause
10:01
that's
10:01
obviously
10:02
not
10:02
true.
10:02
I
10:02
mean,
10:03
I
10:03
think
10:03
one
10:03
of
10:03
the
10:04
basic
10:04
tenets
10:04
of
10:05
most
10:06
major
10:07
religions
10:07
is
10:08
this
10:08
idea.
10:09
Life
10:09
is
10:09
suffering.
10:10
And
10:10
I
10:10
think
10:10
there's
10:10
a
10:10
reason
10:11
why
10:11
that
10:11
idea
10:12
became
10:12
so
10:12
prominent
10:13
and
10:13
was
10:13
accepted
10:13
because
10:13
people
10:14
recognize
10:14
that
10:14
there's
10:15
a
10:15
lot
10:15
of
10:15
truth
10:15
in
10:15
that
10:16
there
10:17
is
10:17
a
10:17
lot
10:17
of
10:17
suffering
10:18
in
10:18
life.
10:19
And
10:19
I
10:19
think
10:19
that
10:20
might
10:20
be
10:20
one
10:20
of
10:20
the
10:20
reasons
10:21
why
10:21
people
10:22
shy
10:22
away
10:22
from
10:23
learning.
10:23
I
10:23
think
10:23
exactly
10:24
what
10:24
you
10:24
said
10:24
is
10:24
totally
10:24
true.
10:25
We
10:25
are
10:25
aware
10:26
of
10:26
the
10:26
fact
10:26
that
10:26
the
10:27
world
10:27
is
10:27
full
10:27
of
10:27
darkness
10:28
and
10:28
there's
10:28
horrible
10:28
things
10:29
around
10:29
a
10:29
lot
10:29
of
10:29
the
10:29
corners.
10:30
And
10:30
so,
10:31
you
10:31
know,
10:31
maybe
10:31
one
10:31
of
10:31
the
10:32
ways
10:32
to
10:32
avoid
10:32
that
10:32
is
10:32
never
10:33
to
10:33
open
10:33
the
10:33
door,
10:34
but
10:35
on
10:35
the
10:35
flip
10:35
side,
10:36
If
10:37
you
10:37
don't
10:37
open
10:37
the
10:37
door,
10:38
what
10:38
is
10:38
your
10:38
life?
10:40
And
10:40
I
10:41
think
10:41
we,
10:41
we
10:41
sacrifice
10:42
the
10:42
things
10:42
that
10:42
make
10:43
life
10:43
wonderful
10:44
in
10:44
order
10:44
to
10:44
avoid
10:44
the
10:44
things
10:45
that
10:45
make
10:45
life
10:45
miserable.
10:47
And
10:47
I
10:47
think
10:48
you
10:48
kind
10:48
of
10:48
have
10:48
to
10:48
have
10:48
both.
10:49
I
10:49
don't
10:49
think
10:50
there's
10:50
really
10:50
an
10:50
option
10:51
of
10:51
avoiding
10:52
all
10:52
the
10:52
misery
10:52
in
10:52
life
10:53
and
10:54
life.
10:54
Staying
10:55
bright.
10:55
I
10:55
think
10:55
it
10:56
diminishes,
10:56
I
10:56
think
10:57
it
10:57
becomes
10:58
mundane.
10:58
I
10:58
think
10:58
it
10:59
becomes
10:59
gray.
10:59
I
10:59
think
10:59
you
11:00
need.
11:01
Both
11:01
sides
11:01
to
11:01
get
11:02
that
11:02
contrast
11:03
that
11:03
makes
11:03
life
11:03
worth
11:03
living.
11:04
And,
11:05
um,
11:05
I
11:06
think
11:06
that's,
11:07
it's
11:07
a
11:07
hard
11:07
thing
11:08
to
11:08
come
11:08
to
11:08
terms
11:08
with
11:09
because
11:11
essentially
11:11
what
11:11
I'm
11:12
saying
11:12
is
11:12
that
11:12
if
11:12
you
11:13
want
11:13
to
11:13
have
11:13
adventure
11:14
in
11:14
your
11:14
life,
11:14
you
11:14
need
11:15
to
11:16
accept
11:16
the
11:16
fact
11:16
that
11:17
there
11:17
could
11:17
be
11:17
a
11:17
monster
11:17
behind
11:18
that
11:18
door,
11:19
and
11:19
if
11:19
you
11:19
open
11:19
it,
11:19
it
11:19
might
11:19
bite
11:20
your
11:20
face
11:20
off
11:21
you
11:21
know,
11:22
that
11:22
could
11:22
happen.
11:23
Um,
11:24
Then
11:24
on
11:24
the
11:24
flip
11:25
side,
11:25
if
11:25
you
11:25
don't
11:25
open
11:26
the
11:26
door,
11:26
you're
11:26
never
11:26
gonna
11:26
go
11:26
on
11:27
an
11:27
adventure.
11:27
And
11:28
that's,
11:29
that's
11:29
a
11:29
hard
11:29
pill
11:30
to
11:30
swallow,
11:30
but
11:31
I
11:31
think
11:31
it's
11:31
when
11:31
you
11:31
have
11:32
to
11:32
swallow,
11:32
if
11:32
you
11:32
want
11:32
that,
11:33
that
11:33
color
11:33
back
11:33
in
11:34
your
11:34
life.
11:36  Magic Barclay
Definitely.
11:37
And
11:39
while
11:39
you
11:39
were
11:39
talking,
11:40
I
11:40
thought
11:40
about
11:40
walking
11:41
in
11:41
the
11:42
rain.
11:43
Many
11:43
people
11:43
would
11:44
not
11:44
wanna
11:44
walk
11:45
in
11:45
the
11:45
rain
11:45
because
11:45
it's
11:45
uncomfortable.
11:47
You
11:47
know,
11:47
it's
11:48
wet,
11:48
it's
11:48
cold,
11:49
it's
11:49
soggy,
11:49
your
11:49
clothes
11:50
get
11:50
heavy.
11:51
Your
11:51
eyes
11:52
might
11:52
sting.
11:54
But
11:55
if
11:55
you
11:55
don't
11:55
go
11:55
walking
11:56
in
11:56
the
11:56
rain,
11:57
you
11:57
won't
11:57
see
11:57
the
11:57
animals
11:58
come
11:58
out
11:59
that
11:59
have
11:59
been
12:00
waiting
12:00
for
12:00
that
12:00
rain.
12:01
You
12:02
won't
12:02
see
12:03
the
12:03
trees,
12:04
glistening
12:04
and
12:05
moving
12:05
and
12:06
colors
12:06
in
12:06
the
12:06
leaves
12:07
that
12:07
you
12:08
never
12:08
thought
12:08
would
12:08
be
12:09
there
12:09
because
12:09
the
12:10
oils
12:10
are
12:10
releasing
12:11
in
12:11
the
12:11
rain.
12:12
So
12:13
you'll
12:13
never
12:13
get
12:13
to
12:13
see
12:13
the
12:13
rainbow
12:14
on
12:15
the
12:15
leaves
12:16
and
12:17
you'll
12:17
never
12:17
get
12:17
to
12:17
see
12:17
the
12:18
rainbow
12:18
when
12:18
the
12:18
rain
12:19
finishes,
12:20
cuz
12:20
you'll
12:20
be
12:20
inside
12:21
your
12:21
cozy,
12:21
warm
12:22
house
12:23
being
12:23
dry.
12:24
So
12:24
you
12:25
really
12:25
do
12:25
have
12:25
to
12:25
look
12:26
at
12:26
both
12:26
sides
12:27
of
12:27
life
12:27
at
12:28
once
12:29
and
12:29
weigh
12:29
it
12:29
up.
12:30
And
12:31
you
12:31
know,
12:31
this
12:31
is
12:31
not
12:31
to
12:31
say,
12:32
go
12:32
walking
12:32
in
12:32
the
12:32
street
12:33
without
12:33
checking
12:33
the
12:33
traffic
12:34
lights.
12:34
Like
12:35
that's
12:35
just
12:35
ridiculous.
12:37
But
12:38
when
12:38
it's
12:38
safe
12:39
to
12:39
do.
12:40
A
12:40
little
12:41
bit
12:41
of
12:41
discomfort
12:42
can
12:42
open
12:42
your
12:42
world
12:43
up.
12:46  Colin Jewett
Yeah,
12:46
absolutely.
12:47
I
12:47
think,
12:48
I
12:48
think
12:48
you
12:48
can
12:48
almost
12:48
define
12:49
learning
12:49
as
12:50
learning
12:51
as
12:51
when
12:51
you're
12:52
walking
12:52
on
12:52
the
12:52
border
12:53
of
12:53
what
12:53
you
12:53
know,
12:54
and
12:54
what
12:54
you
12:54
don't
12:54
know,
12:55
it's
12:55
exploring
12:56
your
12:56
territory.
12:56
It's
12:57
being
12:57
at
12:57
the
12:57
edge
12:57
of
12:58
what's
12:58
familiar.
12:59
And
12:59
when
13:00
you're
13:00
on
13:00
the
13:00
edge
13:00
of
13:00
what's
13:00
familiar,
13:01
that
13:01
means
13:01
you're
13:01
also
13:02
on
13:02
the
13:02
edge
13:02
of
13:02
what's
13:02
unfamiliar.
13:04
And
13:04
so
13:04
you're
13:04
standing
13:04
on
13:05
that
13:05
border
13:06
between
13:06
the
13:06
light
13:07
and
13:07
the
13:07
darkness.
13:08
And
13:08
I.
13:10
When
13:10
you
13:10
don't
13:11
do
13:11
that
13:11
when
13:11
you
13:11
just
13:11
stay
13:12
in
13:12
the
13:12
light,
13:12
I
13:12
mean,
13:13
you
13:13
might
13:13
think,
13:13
well,
13:14
I
13:14
wanna
13:14
just
13:14
be
13:14
on
13:14
the
13:14
light
13:15
side
13:15
because
13:16
that
13:16
sounds
13:16
a
13:16
lot
13:16
more
13:17
pleasant.
13:17
The
13:18
thing
13:18
is
13:18
without
13:18
shadow.
13:20
You
13:20
can't
13:20
see
13:20
anything
13:22
you
13:22
can't
13:23
see
13:23
any
13:23
differentiation,
13:24
everything
13:24
loses
13:24
its
13:25
depth.
13:25
And
13:26
I
13:26
think
13:26
that
13:26
happens.
13:27
I
13:27
think
13:27
that's
13:27
exactly
13:27
what
13:28
happens.
13:29
Um,
13:29
and,
13:30
and
13:30
so
13:30
I
13:30
wanna
13:31
continue
13:31
on
13:31
this.
13:32
We,
13:32
we,
13:32
the
13:33
original
13:33
question
13:34
to
13:34
this
13:34
whole
13:34
podcast
13:35
episode
13:35
does,
13:36
you
13:36
know,
13:36
what
13:36
is
13:36
a
13:36
super
13:37
learner
13:37
and
13:37
how
13:37
do
13:37
you
13:37
become
13:38
a
13:38
super
13:38
learner?
13:39
I
13:40
think
13:40
a
13:40
super
13:40
learner
13:40
is
13:41
somebody
13:41
who
13:41
runs
13:41
towards
13:42
that,
13:42
which
13:42
they
13:42
are
13:43
afraid
13:43
of,
13:43
which
13:43
is
13:43
necessarily
13:44
that,
13:44
which
13:44
they
13:45
don't
13:45
know.
13:45
And
13:45
they
13:45
don't
13:45
that,
13:46
which
13:46
they
13:46
don't
13:46
understand.
13:48
They
13:48
recognize
13:49
that
13:49
they're
13:49
afraid
13:49
of
13:49
it.
13:50
And
13:50
this
13:50
goes
13:50
back
13:50
to,
13:51
uh,
13:51
something