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“Jesus wasn't about religion, in fact he reserved his anger for organised religion and challenged, ignored or subverted religious practices. He didn't teach the non-religious about religion, or expect them to become 'religious'. If anyone has to become religious to follow Jesus they've missed the point, so talk of the relationship between church and state is missing the point too. It really is debateable whether Jesus wanted a Church. In fact, Jesus was a humanist. We should be humanists too. If Jesus' followers fail to adopt this outlook they revert to being 'religious' instead, if this then leads to people becoming out of tune with humanity they may go on to becoming inhumane. There are too many examples of this happening in the history of Christianity, pray God that it does not continue to happen. However, we see 'religious' inhumanity in appalling 'Christian' attitudes towards Muslims - 'you have heard it said that other religions are false, give their followers the cold shoulder and make them feel unwelcome.' Jesus never said this but you might think that he did when you hear what some of his followers say. I believe that if Jesus lived today, he would be a secular humanist and would reject Christianity, just as he "rejected" Judaism and inspired Christianity.” “Jesus did not intend to start a religion, and Jesus did not create Christianity. Paul and Constantine intended to start a religion and Paul and Constantine created Christianity.” --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/antonio-myers4/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/antonio-myers4/support