The Gray Area with Sean Illing

The Gray Area with Sean Illing takes a philosophy-minded look at culture, technology, politics, and the world of ideas. Each week, we invite a guest to explore a question or topic that matters. From the the state of democracy, to the struggle with depression and anxiety, to the nature of identity in the digital age, each episode looks for nuance and honesty in the most important conversations of our time. New episodes drop every Monday.

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A new philosophy of love


Sean Illing talks with Carrie Jenkins about her new book Sad Love, and her call to rethink the shape and boundaries of romantic love. In this far-ranging discussion about the meaning of romantic love, Sean and Carrie discuss the connection between love and happiness, what we should expect (and not expect) from our romantic partners, and whether or not loving a person must entail that we love only that person.

Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), Interviews Writer, Vox

Guest: Carrie Jenkins (@carriejenkins), writer; professor of philosophy, University of British Columbia

References: 

  • Sad Love: Romance and the Search for Meaning by Carrie Jenkins (Polity; 2022)
  • "A philosopher makes the case for polyamory" by Sean Illing (Vox; Feb. 16, 2018)
  • What Love Is: And What It Could Be by Carrie Jenkins (Basic; 2017)
  • Nausea by Jean-Paul Sartre (1949)
  • Nicomachean Ethics by Aristotle (see Book I, or Book X.6-8 for robust discussion of eudaimonia)
  • Marina Adshade, economist
  • Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl (1946; tr. Ilse Lasch)


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  • Producer: Erikk Geannikis
  • Editor: Amy Drozdowska
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 September 26, 2022  1h0m