The Talk Show With John Gruber

The director’s commentary track for Daring Fireball. Long digressions on Apple, technology, design, movies, and more.


360: ‘Neither Fish Nor Fowl’, With Jason Snell

Jason Snell returns to the show to talk about the new 10th-gen iPad and M2 iPads Pro.

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  • Jason’s review of the new iPads.
  • Jason’s take on the iPad announcements: “The iPad’s Erratic Odyssey Continues”.
  • Yours truly’s take on the announcements last week: “The iPad Lineup Is, Like, Growing Out Its Bangs or Something and Looks a Little Weird Right Now, but Apple TV Has Been Going to the Gym and Looks Great”.
  • New $70 Logitech Crayon.
  • Apple’s $9 USB-C to Apple Pencil Adapter.
  • Apple’s growing array of iPad keyboards.
  • Apple’s eMac — an iMac-like Mac with a CRT display for education that was introduced in 2002.
  • Joe Rosensteel on the new Apple TV 4K hardware.
  • Good explainer on Matter from The Verge.
  • Steven Troughton-Smith’s ideas for improving Stage Manager on iPadOS.

This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.


 2022-10-25  2h31m