Gather round sir, and you too madam, if it pleases, to witness Ben and Lee's musings on the hot topics of the day. Art, science, the universe and humanity's place within in it: all of these and more are completely ignored so Ben and Lee can talk about their bum holes. At great length.
https://www.podcasts.com/ben-lee-chat-on-the-mat-e1c5d8ee0
Episode 3: Virtual Inanity
It's more of the uncompromising sociological analysis you've come to expect, as Ben and Lee turn their attention to virtual reality, masculinity and Vincent Van Gogh's love of Buckfast. Meanwhile, Lee's intro to the show sounds much better in his head.