If Then | News on technology, Silicon Valley, politics, and tech policy

If Then: is a show about technology, society, and power. Each week, Slate‘s April Glaser and Will Oremus take you on a lively tour of the tech news that actually matters, from fake news in your Facebook feed to the algorithms that want your job to the Uber drivers who want a job with benefits. With news-making interviews of key tech-industry figures, fascinating academics, and top tech journalists, they explore not only how the technology that’s shaping our world works, but the ideas, ideologies, incentives, and biases that underlie it. And guess what: They don’t always agree.




Can Palantir Be Used For Good?

Palantir has been criticized for building predictive policing tech, now the company is working with the UN.



Jeff Bezos’s Privacy Complexifier

Jeff Bezos lost control of his own intimate data. Will his company protect ours?



The Court-Records Paywall Scam

The Federal Judiciary Is Making Millions of a Records System Many Think Should Be Free.



Media Layoffs Are Trending

On today’s show, hosts April Glaser and Will Oremus discuss a rather terrifying security flaw from Apple, a company that prides itself on keeping information well-protected. A bug was found in the video chat app Facetime that let snoops listen in on someone by calling them on FaceTime, even if the call wasn’t answered...



Juul Heist

Wired’s Nitasha Tiku Breaks Down Juul, the Company That Dominates E-Cigarettes.



Social Media's Weird Future

The Atlantic’s Taylor Lorenz explains TikTok, Instagram eggs, and why teens are reading the comments.


 2019-01-16  50m

At CES: Tech After Smartphones

Smartphone sales are on the decline, but shady characters buying your location data is on the rise.


 2019-01-09  42m

Best of 2018

A look back at some of If Then’s best interviews of the year; Senator Mark Warner, Taylor Lorenz, Naomi Klein, Yeshimabeit Milner, Adam Mosseri, & Paige Panter.


 2019-01-02  48m

Aftermath of a Data Breach

A Cybersecurity expert on the bizarre legal battles after a big data theft and the confusion for everyday consumers who may have been affected.


 2018-12-26  34m

The Information World War

An interview with the lead author of a new report to the Senate Intelligence Committee on how rival powers are weaponizing social media.


 2018-12-19  34m