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39:20 Kate Horsman: completely intrinsic and fascinating. You know, even thinking about the it's a first thing, breath, first thing you do when you come into the world. Well, probably like there's a few other things happening too. But like you take a breath. And it's the last thing you meet when you leave the world. It is connected to you through all of that. And so yeah, again, I think some of the emphasis on breath is healing is so powerful right now, whether we're talking about breath exercises, or events. Again, someone like James Nestor has a wealth of information on like the science of breathing like yours Starting to actually trust that there's something extremely valuable about this set of lungs, right? And not just this set of lungs, you're settling this yourself, you know, there is, yeah, a wisdom and a power there than meets us. Each time we take a breath, right. And I think if we were to look at it through, you know, a meditation standpoint, you know, that's always been the thing is like with each in breath, and with each out breath, we have a chance to begin again. And in this state, we're like, we're ramping it up exponentially.
04:27 Dr. Mindy Pelz: It's funny. I was thinking today that one of the things I love about people that I've invited into my universe are people who have had their own struggle, and found a really interesting solution and then decided to turn around and teach it to the world. And the phrase that I've heard a lot is from pain to purpose. And I think it's a beautiful phrase, and I think you really really typify that. So I would love to start this conversation with your journey. You can give us a call have notes version, but your journey and how you even came to this place of diving into breathwork.
17:47 Kate Horsman: on, and maybe for clarification, never worked in the clinical space, but definitely still as professional counselor, right, and which is just a much more what we would call traditional, you know, Western talk therapy, right? I sort of quote unquote, traditional because what is more traditional, if we go back in time, were some of these other practices that we're starting to get into now are breath, psychedelics, you know, energy medicine, these are those are all very old and ancient and much more traditional than what we you know, fit into the box of our talk therapies now. But yeah, so sort of to mirror the same way that I was starting to notice that there was this gap in my own somatic world, I have not even connected with my body. I felt like there was this missing gap with with clients, that, of course, you'll notice this, I will pause and be like, oh, cool, what's happening there? What's,