Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
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Speaker 1: My name's Lauren, they call me Dot. We are joined
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Speaker 1: listening to this the day it comes out, it is
Speaker 1: March eighth, which, in addition to being James Vanderbeek's birthday,
Speaker 1: shout out anybody wow of sense Creek all right, eighties babies,
Speaker 1: it is also International Women's Day. Yeah. The way that
Speaker 1: I Heart likes to celebrate that is to have some
Speaker 1: of the lady co hosts takeover for some of the
Speaker 1: dude co hosts for the day. And so that is
Speaker 1: why you may have noticed that Ben Matinoll are not
Speaker 1: here or their voices are just sounding a little bit
Speaker 1: higher today. Who's tiny bit? Yeah? Yeah, I can try,
Speaker 1: I can try to do a vocal fry. Oh I won't,
Speaker 1: but yes on this episode today we are returning on
Speaker 1: the show to a ludicrously gigantic, successful entertainment conglomerate, a
Speaker 1: company that has built their own autonomous city state in Florida,
Speaker 1: which has been talked about on the show before. The
Speaker 1: Guys covered it back in twenty seventeen in their episode
Speaker 1: about the creation of the Reedy Creek Improvement District. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you'll very often hear them refer to it as the Mouse,
Speaker 1: which is actually one of my favorite nicknames for anything
Speaker 1: in recent history. But the official name of it is Disney,
Speaker 1: which there's just unless you're under a rock or under
Speaker 1: the sea, there's really no way that you have in
Speaker 1: about Disney at some point in your life. So there's
Speaker 1: actually a lot of different conspiracies that float around about
Speaker 1: Disney that I find to be incredibly entertaining. For example,
Speaker 1: that Walt Disney's head is frozen and they're going to
Speaker 1: unfreeze it at some point. I don't know what they
Speaker 1: would do with it, yeah, because I don't think that
Speaker 1: cryogenic freezing. I'm sure that there's an episode on that too.
Speaker 1: I don't think that actually works. I'm pretty sure that
Speaker 1: fan froze it. They would be like, well, this is
Speaker 1: some interesting meat that is here. Head for dinner. Yep,
Speaker 1: slow cookers, right, But okay, so there's that. There's also
Speaker 1: that just his entire body is frozen. I don't know
Speaker 1: why they are are different, separate conspiracies for the freezing
Speaker 1: of his body versus the freezing of his head, but
Speaker 1: that is something that I have found on the internet.
Speaker 1: In terms of Disney conspiracies, there are also some other ones,
Speaker 1: like that Disney helped fake the moon landing. Oh oh,
Speaker 1: I don't think I've heard about that one. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: one's that one's interesting to me. And I mean also
Speaker 1: we could have a whole other conversation about whether, like
Speaker 1: there's so many conspiracies around the moon landing. Again, just
Speaker 1: really funny to me. I'm actually surprised that I haven't
Speaker 1: heard about more of these because I actually grew up
Speaker 1: in South Florida, and you know, like like I went
Speaker 1: to Disney all the time as a kid, Like we
Speaker 1: took school field trips to the Disney theme parks. You
Speaker 1: do not have that level of childhood familiarity, do you.
Speaker 1: Most people don't well with me being from Detroit. Like
Speaker 1: our field trip thing that we did was Cedar Point,
Speaker 1: which is in Ohio. That was our theme Park. I
Speaker 1: missed those days. But I actually I did visit Disney
Speaker 1: quite a few times when I was a kid, just
Speaker 1: on family trips, and also when I was in middle school,
Speaker 1: I was in marching band and we I don't really
Speaker 1: remember the specifics of this, but for some reason we
Speaker 1: took a trip to Disney and we had the opportunity
Speaker 1: to march through Disney World. Yea, our marching band, along
Speaker 1: with other marching bands from other schools all over the country.
Speaker 1: So that was fun. Again, I do not remember the
Speaker 1: details are specifics, but I have been to Disney World
Speaker 1: quite a few times. Yeah. Yeah, But I would say
Speaker 1: that neither of us are are a Disney human, like
Speaker 1: like one of those Disney adults. Yeah. Like, it's not
Speaker 1: like a like a planned destination for me on a
Speaker 1: on a semi annual basis or anything like that. Nope.
Speaker 1: And in fact, I have an entire soapbox about how
Speaker 1: I feel about Disney movies and how they sort of
Speaker 1: perpetuate this sort of feeding this idea of love and
Speaker 1: romance to women is children to get them to fit
Speaker 1: into this machine. But we don't have time. We don't
Speaker 1: have time for that today. That that is not the
Speaker 1: theory that the fringe theory or conspiracy realism that we
Speaker 1: were talking about today. Today we are talking about the
Speaker 1: idea that no one dies at Disney, which is also
Speaker 1: a really interesting conspiracy theory to me, Specifically, this idea
Speaker 1: that no one at is ever pronounced dead at Disney,
Speaker 1: because Disney is this a magical place where no, that
Speaker 1: doesn't happen again only yeah mothers, yes, I mean in
Speaker 1: the movie, in the movies, every single mom, but every
Speaker 1: single I don't noticed that. How just everybody in Disney
Speaker 1: is an orphan. It's actually sort of like trite at
Speaker 1: this point. There has to be stories where it's interesting
Speaker 1: to have your parents be alive. I don't know anyway, Okay,
Speaker 1: can we do the thing? Can I do the ben thing?
Speaker 1: Here are the facts. Excellent job. I actually thought that
Speaker 1: had been was in here for a second. Phenomenal, phenomenal
Speaker 1: voice work. Yeah. So the Walt Disney Company to sort
Speaker 1: of go through the history really quickly. It started small enough.
Speaker 1: It was founded on October sixteenth, nineteen twenty three, by
Speaker 1: Walt and roy O Disney, two brothers. And I just
Speaker 1: want to say that if I was roy out of
Speaker 1: this brother situation, I would be a little bit peeved.
Speaker 1: And now my name has been a race throughout history
Speaker 1: because I have never heard it before actually doing research
Speaker 1: on Disney. And so yeah, when they first started it
Speaker 1: in nineteen twenty three and a burst of creativity, they
Speaker 1: originally named the Disney Brothers Studio and after that it
Speaker 1: would go through several different name changes over the following decades,
Speaker 1: and then it ultimately became the Walt Disney Company in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six. What a different world we would live
Speaker 1: in if it had been the Roy Disney Company. But okay,
Speaker 1: all right, so there is We are not a history
Speaker 1: of Disney podcast. There are I am positive podcasts you
Speaker 1: could find about that. We're just going to cover the
Speaker 1: high points here, okay. So Walt was an artist who
Speaker 1: began messing around with sell animation during his time at
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Film Ad Company, which I think is
Speaker 1: great because I'm like, oh, that background in advertising and
Speaker 1: marketing would certainly pay off. And he started a company
Speaker 1: before he started Disney called the laugh A Graham Studio,
Speaker 1: which went bankrupt in nineteen twenty three. So remember that,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, if you fail at something, try try again,
Speaker 1: because if Walt had given up. Followed, Watt had given
Speaker 1: up after that bankruptcy, where would we be now, No
Speaker 1: Disney Princesses, no Disney World, say. In the aftermath of
Speaker 1: that bankruptcy, Walt decided to move to la to join
Speaker 1: his brother Roy, who was out there recovering from tuberculosis.
Speaker 1: And so while he was there, like once he got there,
Speaker 1: finally sold a short film that was produced by laugh Agraham,
Speaker 1: the company that went bankrupt, Alice's Wonderland, and then signed
Speaker 1: a contract to make six more films. Yeah, And so
Speaker 1: with the success, the brothers went on founded their company,
Speaker 1: persuaded some of their collaborators to join them in Hollywood,
Speaker 1: and this group of films, called the Alice Comedies, were
Speaker 1: a success, as was another series based on another one
Speaker 1: of Walt's characters, Oswald, the Lucky Rabbit. And so then
Speaker 1: after that the story is probably going to become a
Speaker 1: little bit more familiar to all of you, because this
Speaker 1: is when Disney began work on what would be sort
Speaker 1: of the most famous or like the impetus of the
Speaker 1: Mouse as we know it today, with the nineteen twenty
Speaker 1: eight release of Steamboat Willie, which was when the world
Speaker 1: was introduced to Mickey Mouse, and all of you all
Speaker 1: are still seeing this little steamboat Willie animation before Disney
Speaker 1: movies today because that's how integral it was to forming
Speaker 1: the company. So, yeah, as you are clearly aware, Mickey
Speaker 1: Mouse is one of the most recognizable cartoons in history,
Speaker 1: and this is when what Disney really sort of sort
Speaker 1: of took off. This success allowed Walt to kind of
Speaker 1: conceive of the idea of making a feature film, and
Speaker 1: what a feature film it was going to be. Snow
Speaker 1: White in the Seven Dwarves. You've probably heard of it.
Speaker 1: They started making it in nineteen thirty four, and it
Speaker 1: actually like like three years into it, it was four
Speaker 1: hundred percent over budget. They had like three hundred animators
Speaker 1: and artists and assistants on the payroll. But somehow it
Speaker 1: turned into this beautiful film and was its success. And
Speaker 1: we now have all of these countless princesses and etc.
Speaker 1: To thank for those early successes that came a little
Speaker 1: bit of a surprise to everyone, indeed. And so after that,
Speaker 1: as you know, multiple features, short films that ultimately grew
Speaker 1: and grew, sprinkled in some casual races, and then we
Speaker 1: got the Disney that we know and love today. And
Speaker 1: so with the success of all of those things, ultimately
Speaker 1: Disney started moving into the realm of theme parts. And
Speaker 1: this is really where we're going to start getting into
Speaker 1: what we're what we're looking at today, right because Okay,
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty five, Disney opens Disneyland in Anaheim, California.
Speaker 1: And this was the first of the companies now five, five, six, six,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a number, a bunch of theme parks,
Speaker 1: and it was the only one designed and constructed entirely
Speaker 1: under Walt's direct supervision. Meanwhile, the Walt disney World Resort
Speaker 1: or disney World opened in nineteen seventy one in Florida.
Speaker 1: And this is the one that I'm familiar with. It
Speaker 1: is mind blowingly large. The resort is formed by four
Speaker 1: separate theme parks, the Magic Kingdom, Epcot, Disney's Hollywood Studios,
Speaker 1: and Animal Kingdom. There are also two water parks, thirty
Speaker 1: one themed hotels, nine non Disney hotels on the campus,
Speaker 1: golf courses, a camping resort, and Okay, in Florida, y'all,
Speaker 1: this was all built within what has since its inception
Speaker 1: been a politically independent, corporately run district called the Ready
Speaker 1: Creek Improvement District, And this has been in the news
Speaker 1: a lot over the past year or so as these
Speaker 1: like clashes between the Disney Company and Florida's Governor Ron
Speaker 1: de Santis, among perhaps many other factors have led to
Speaker 1: that district losing some of its autonomy, including coming under
Speaker 1: the purview of this governor appointed board rather than their
Speaker 1: own appointed board. So it's now called the Central Florida
Speaker 1: Tourism Oversight District, which, yeah, rolls off a tongue, like
Speaker 1: like a cannonball off a duck. I don't have a
Speaker 1: good metaphor there rolls off the time, like all of
Speaker 1: these ketchy songs that we've come to know and love.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm sure that you all have heard about
Speaker 1: this because it's been really big in the news and
Speaker 1: it's something that has come up, like the guys did
Speaker 1: an episode about Reedy Creek a couple of years back,
Speaker 1: I want to say, in twenty seventeen. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been in the news recently because of this whole
Speaker 1: back and forth with the Scantis about the Don't Say
Speaker 1: Gay bill, because Disney came out against that bill and
Speaker 1: then the Santis was life well, I tell you what
Speaker 1: I'll do. I will take over Disney World. In fact,
Speaker 1: there's a quote from the bill signing ceremony for this
Speaker 1: which is just likely hysterical to me, so I must
Speaker 1: include it. Yeah, today, today, the corporate kingdom finally comes
Speaker 1: to an end. The santist said at a bill signing
Speaker 1: ceremony in Lake Buena Vista, There's a new sheriff in town,
Speaker 1: and accountability will be the order of the day. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I just have to include that because the idea of
Speaker 1: Rhonda Santis saying I'm the new sheriff at Disney World
Speaker 1: is just so deeply unseerious to me that I just
Speaker 1: have to I have to read it on air. But yeah,
Speaker 1: with you know, all political thoughts aside between his time
Speaker 1: banning books and trying to legislate LGBTQ people out of existence,
Speaker 1: run de Santis decided to take over the corporately run
Speaker 1: district where Disney World is currently become the new sheriff
Speaker 1: in the district. Sure there are there are other theme
Speaker 1: parks that are not, Thank Goodness, under the control of
Speaker 1: Run de Santis. They also have parks in Tokyo, Hong Kong,
Speaker 1: Shanghai and Paris. Indeed, and then as of twenty two,
Speaker 1: the company reported that the parks make something like twenty
Speaker 1: eight point seventy one billion dollars per year. So what Yeah,
Speaker 1: over twenty eight billion dollars a year from these combined
Speaker 1: theme parts. Wow. I always felt like those waters were expensive.
Speaker 1: But okay, Oh fun fact. By the way, if you
Speaker 1: go up and ask for a couple of water at
Speaker 1: any kiosk, at any Disney Park, they will give one
Speaker 1: to you for you do not have to buy a
Speaker 1: bottle of water. You can just ask for a cup
Speaker 1: of water and they will give you one. Where does
Speaker 1: the water come from though? Is it bottled water that
Speaker 1: they're giving people or is it just like faucet water.
Speaker 1: I'm just genuinely curious. Great, great question. I'm not positive
Speaker 1: that I've ever done this, and Florida water does tend
Speaker 1: to have a very specific flavor profile, so I think
Speaker 1: that I would remember if I knew the answer to
Speaker 1: copy that. Okay, sorry, I have to as somebody who
Speaker 1: works in film, it's really difficult for me to turn
Speaker 1: off the copy that. So everyone, please forgive me. You're
Speaker 1: gonna you're probably gonna hear you say it more than
Speaker 1: once and just being being honest with you, No, I
Speaker 1: love that it's hazard of the job. Yeah, so speaking
Speaker 1: of like hazards of jobs, because Disney does not with
Speaker 1: you to think that there's any hazards about working there
Speaker 1: or visiting there, and that's certainly not of the whole Beyonce,
Speaker 1: part of the whole vibe. So the parts really pride
Speaker 1: themselves on having this high level of consistent experience. So
Speaker 1: this means a ride performs exactly as planned, the same
Speaker 1: characters interact with you, the restaurant serve the same food,
Speaker 1: and most importantly, everyone is always going to have a
Speaker 1: magical time. So there's no litter on the streets, no
Speaker 1: unscheduled scary moments, and as a result, theoretically no deaths. Right,
Speaker 1: So rumors grew and grew over the years that no
Speaker 1: one died at Disney. This is a part of the
Speaker 1: wholest magical experience that they're trying to concoct for you.
Speaker 1: You can't die in this land of magic. And in
Speaker 1: order to create the in order to do this sort
Speaker 1: of magic trick, the theory goes that there was like
Speaker 1: a subsidiary of Disney that had full authority to just
Speaker 1: spear it away people like having heart attacks or an
Speaker 1: allergic reaction, or a murder victim, or you know, like
Speaker 1: like whatever it was, any kind of potentially deadly problem
Speaker 1: that someone was having at Disney would just disappear, because
Speaker 1: no one dies at Disney. And as we mentioned, this
Speaker 1: is one of the numerous conspiracy theories to sort of
Speaker 1: proliferate as it relates to Disney World World, and this
Speaker 1: particular conspiracy theory got a new breath of life just
Speaker 1: like Walt Disney's Frozen Head and last summer when a
Speaker 1: TikTok went viral where a guy who used to work
Speaker 1: at Disney World said that there was this whole situation
Speaker 1: where somebody collapsed and a manager they were trying to
Speaker 1: resuscitate him, even though it seemed to this bystander that
Speaker 1: worked there that there was no hope for this or
Speaker 1: that it wasn't going to go well. And a manager said,
Speaker 1: no one dies at Disney World. Everyone is resuscitated or
Speaker 1: attempted into resuscitation until they're off the property and then
Speaker 1: they're formally declared dead. So this TikTok where a former
Speaker 1: employee was saying this sort of went viral, and that's
Speaker 1: why this conspiracy theory has gotten a new life again
Speaker 1: like Walt Disney's Frozen Body in recent history. Okay, but
Speaker 1: here's where it gets crazy. To be fair, there is
Speaker 1: a vast behind the scenes network of tunnels and passageways
Speaker 1: for employees of the Mouse to get around without being
Speaker 1: seen by park guests. And there have been like documentaries
Speaker 1: about this. You can even book a tour sometimes, so well,
Speaker 1: let you see a little bit of it at Disney
Speaker 1: at Disney's Magic Kingdom in Disney World. Like when they
Speaker 1: built there in Florida, the company had so much more
Speaker 1: land and time and money to throw at the project
Speaker 1: than they had had in California, and so they planned
Speaker 1: it to incorporate this unseen system to keep that magic running.
Speaker 1: And it's called I love this the Utilador system. That
Speaker 1: sounds so diabolical. It sounds like a villain layer. If
Speaker 1: I ever become a super villain, which is entirely possible
Speaker 1: for my life trajectory, I might have to call my
Speaker 1: layer the Utilador. But yeah, if you've never heard about this,
Speaker 1: system's wild. So like when you're like when you're in
Speaker 1: Disney World, what you're walking on the ground that you're
Speaker 1: walking on is almost like the second story of a
Speaker 1: vast building, and the first story is a network of
Speaker 1: tunnels and services and operations where they have infrastructure to
Speaker 1: monitor and troubleshoet like everything that's happening in the park,
Speaker 1: all right. So they also have they have golf course
Speaker 1: down there that are transporting people like no, like seriously
Speaker 1: dead as they have like golf courts that are traveling
Speaker 1: around the like costume staff and they're handlers, and they
Speaker 1: have a pneumatic trash system. Like it's crazy down there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that they can control everything in the park from down there,
Speaker 1: and it's where like they have like locker rooms and
Speaker 1: break rooms for the staff and you know, like because
Speaker 1: it is Disney and it's proprietary, I guess, but perhaps
Speaker 1: more because it's Disney and they like being secretive. They're
Speaker 1: a little bit heck and secretive about how how all
Speaker 1: of this works. Like even if you do take that tour,
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to use your cell phone the entire
Speaker 1: time you're on it. And the booking page for this
Speaker 1: tour specifically refers to the utilatour. That's what it's called
Speaker 1: the Utila door system. As an urban legend. Now you
Speaker 1: said that this is like the first floor, and I
Speaker 1: can tell you from personal experience having grown up in Florida,
Speaker 1: it's not a basement because we don't have basements in Florida.
Speaker 1: The water table there is so close to the surface
Speaker 1: that you don't that would be an underground swimming pool,
Speaker 1: and it wouldn't be a particularly sanitary one. So it's
Speaker 1: technically not a basement. But hey, speaking of technicalities, we
Speaker 1: were talking about dead people. Yeah, So the idea is
Speaker 1: behind this conspiracy theory is that instead of people being
Speaker 1: pronounced dead or dying at Disney World, that this cabal
Speaker 1: is spiriting away people as they're dying through this network
Speaker 1: of tunnels underneath Disney World and getting them off the property.
Speaker 1: So they quote no one dies at Disney is sort
Speaker 1: of what the guy was saying in the TikTok and
Speaker 1: also just sort of a belief that people have. Is
Speaker 1: this true? I don't know. I think we might have
Speaker 1: to take a quick break. So we are going to
Speaker 1: go to some as possibly about Disney World, who knows,
Speaker 1: maybe if you're in Florida especially, and then we come back.
Speaker 1: We're going to look at this idea for real, for real, like,
Speaker 1: does anybody die at Disney? Has anyone ever died at Disney?
Speaker 1: We'll find out more after the break and we have returned.
Speaker 1: I hope you all enjoyed that. I hope you all
Speaker 1: enjoyed that ad break. Oh yeah, I want you to
Speaker 1: enjoy everything. I mean, it's not really up to me.
Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want. I don't have any
Speaker 1: real effect on it. But okay, spoiler alert, Yes, people
Speaker 1: have died in Disney. People have probably died everywhere on
Speaker 1: this planet that people can reach, So that has occurred,
Speaker 1: and people have in fact legally been pronounced dead on
Speaker 1: Disney property. Just for one example, in nineteen eighty four,
Speaker 1: there was unfortunately a small airplane crash in an Epcot
Speaker 1: parking lot where one person was pronounced dead at the scene,
Speaker 1: and that is not the only one. Yeah, there's actually
Speaker 1: a really interesting list. I don't want to say interesting,
Speaker 1: because this is people, you know, being killed or dying
Speaker 1: or getting injured, and so I don't want to use
Speaker 1: the word interesting because that's a little insensitive to these
Speaker 1: people's memories. But interesting in the sense that it completely
Speaker 1: sort of just debunked this entire myth or conspiracy that
Speaker 1: people are walking around is spousing because there have actually
Speaker 1: been several people that have been pronounced dead on Disney property.
Speaker 1: You're like at Disney World. Yeah, yeah. So for example,
Speaker 1: February eighth, nineteen ninety a worker was killed at Disney
Speaker 1: Hollywood Studios when he fell thirty three feet to his
Speaker 1: death from a scaffold while working on an air conditioning duck.
Speaker 1: So thirty three feet not a good not a good
Speaker 1: way to go. And then on June thirteenth, two thousand
Speaker 1: and five, a four year old boy died of a
Speaker 1: heart attack after riding the Mission Space ride at Epcot,
Speaker 1: which is super sad a four year old boy. And
Speaker 1: then some more. In two thousand and seven, a forty
Speaker 1: four year old man offered a heart attack while on
Speaker 1: a ride at Animal Kingdom, and the heart defibrillators were
Speaker 1: available in the area. Two thousand and nine, a monorail
Speaker 1: driver was killed on his train crash into another mona
Speaker 1: rail and so he was pronounced dead. And then also
Speaker 1: there have been some incidents of like stuntman being injured
Speaker 1: and dying. A stuntman at Hollywood Studios died after suffering
Speaker 1: a head injury while practicing a tumbling role. During a
Speaker 1: rehearsal for the Indiana Jones Epic Stunt Spectacular show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that one. Yeah. And then also there was
Speaker 1: a boy, like a little boy that got eaten by
Speaker 1: an alligator or drowned by an alligator, and that was
Speaker 1: at a resort. And so I don't know how this
Speaker 1: whole like, with this idea of no one dies at
Speaker 1: Disney World. I don't know how technical we want to
Speaker 1: be about what constitutes Disney World versus you know, the
Speaker 1: larger part of the same. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I think it's more like like in the theme park itself.
Speaker 1: I think I think you're allowed to die wherever you
Speaker 1: wherever else you want on the property. But they're like not,
Speaker 1: You're like not within the purview of Cinderella's castle, Like
Speaker 1: please move that along, Oh my god, but no, seriously.
Speaker 1: So that's that's hilarious because um, that's sort of one
Speaker 1: of the building blocks for this entire conspiracy, the idea
Speaker 1: that nobody is physically allowed to die at Disney or
Speaker 1: be pronounced dead at Disney because they'll be spirited away
Speaker 1: through these seas or they'll do like unnecessary resuscitation on
Speaker 1: you or something like that. Yeah. But but but there
Speaker 1: are all of these examples of right, where people have
Speaker 1: in fact died and been pronounced dead on Disney grounds,
Speaker 1: on the Walt Disney grounds. So I feel like that
Speaker 1: that's that's a clearer this is a clearer statement than
Speaker 1: we usually get for any kind of fringe theory. It's
Speaker 1: just like, oh no, that's untrue. Cool uh period. And
Speaker 1: they're even like Snopes looked at it at some point,
Speaker 1: and on the Snopes website they say, the claim here
Speaker 1: is not that no one has ever actually died on
Speaker 1: Disney theme park property, but whether Disney can legitimately make
Speaker 1: the claim that no one has ever died at a
Speaker 1: Disney park because they ensure that any declaration of death
Speaker 1: takes place outside of park property. Uh. Tricky, tricky, Disney.
Speaker 1: We see what you're up to. Um, you're trying to
Speaker 1: make people have a good time. I guess, I guess right.
Speaker 1: Like Like along those lines, I mean, they do have
Speaker 1: plans for you for for should you encounter a medical emergency,
Speaker 1: Like there's there's first aid centers with the with registered
Speaker 1: nurses and over the counter meds that you can go to. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's there's local urgent care and emergency facilities that they
Speaker 1: will transport you too if you need it. Um, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean more serious issues do happen. Like just from
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of twenty twenty one October through December,
Speaker 1: Disney World registered nine emergencies requiring a hospital stay of
Speaker 1: twenty four hours or more, including like stroke like symptoms,
Speaker 1: cardiac symptoms, seizures. And I mean, like there's a there's
Speaker 1: a nugget of truth to this idea of being whisked
Speaker 1: away by you know, Cinderella's my sert snow whites, little
Speaker 1: friendly forest friends, because like emergency services can access different
Speaker 1: areas of the park through that utilidore system. Although, like
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it, and all of the reports that
Speaker 1: I've read are that, like the emergency services that are
Speaker 1: on call for this kind of thing, aside from any
Speaker 1: in park staff were they previously went through the Reedy
Speaker 1: Creek dispatch system, and since that no longer exists as
Speaker 1: of about a week ago as of this recording, I'm
Speaker 1: like wondering whether any changes will be implemented to emergency
Speaker 1: systems with this new government governance happening. Yeah, that'll be
Speaker 1: that'll be interesting to see, especially with ROUNDA Santis being
Speaker 1: the new sheriff there, like, how that's going to handle
Speaker 1: from here on out? Correct? But yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: makes sense. Obviously Disney's not gonna like advertise deaths or
Speaker 1: emergencies being there, sort of the same with any large
Speaker 1: corporation or organization of its size and nature that they're
Speaker 1: going to seem to minimize liability or minimize bad news,
Speaker 1: you know, So it makes sense that they're not widely reported,
Speaker 1: but they're definitely Unfortunately for the people who believed or
Speaker 1: like put stock in the idea that no one was
Speaker 1: allowed to die on Disney property, like that is not
Speaker 1: actually true. There's a little grain of truth there as
Speaker 1: it relates to when somebody is quote like sort of
Speaker 1: this nebulous idea of when somebody is pronounced dead or
Speaker 1: like versus dying. But yeah, there have actually been people
Speaker 1: declared dead on the property. And I guess at that
Speaker 1: point you can also get into like, like what is
Speaker 1: dying mean anyway? I mean, you know, we have different
Speaker 1: no legit, I don't know the answer to either of
Speaker 1: these questions. Um, and of course this isn't I mean,
Speaker 1: if you want to look at other theme park or
Speaker 1: theme park type environments. Again, people die everywhere. Um Like,
Speaker 1: if you want to look at Vegas, about one thousand,
Speaker 1: one hundred tourists die while visiting Vegas every year. And
Speaker 1: I don't have I don't have really good sources of
Speaker 1: this one for for this next fact, but I but
Speaker 1: I read that, Like, if you die in a Vegas
Speaker 1: hotel room, if the staff reported you dead there, they
Speaker 1: would have to quarantine the room for two weeks. So therefore,
Speaker 1: if anyone has such a serious emergency that they pass,
Speaker 1: they will whisk you away, like like Cinderella's mouse friends,
Speaker 1: to a different area of the hotel so that they
Speaker 1: can keep that room open. Wow, that's disconcerting. I mean,
Speaker 1: I completely believe it because capitalism and like money, But
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, if I died in a Vegas
Speaker 1: hotel room, I would one hundred percent haunted for at
Speaker 1: least the next two weeks. You know, once we get
Speaker 1: the thirteen daymark, maybe I'll leave. So I guess I
Speaker 1: understand the reasoning for quarantining it for fourteen days. But
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's wild because of course, if somebody
Speaker 1: knew you know what I mean, if somebody was checking
Speaker 1: into a hotel and knew that somebody died there the
Speaker 1: previous day, they would probably be a little bit uncomfortable
Speaker 1: about staying there. So I one hundred percent believe like
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I know you said that you
Speaker 1: don't have specific exact sources because this is also probably
Speaker 1: not something that people would admit, but right, and see
Speaker 1: that believe it? Yeah, right totally. And like the reason
Speaker 1: that I don't have really good sources is that everywhere
Speaker 1: that I saw that was kind of reporting this was
Speaker 1: saying like, you can't get official confirmation of it because
Speaker 1: the resorts won't talk about it and journalists will be
Speaker 1: blacklisted if they talk about it. So again, I one
Speaker 1: hundred percent believe that, just knowing what I know about
Speaker 1: the world, I'm one hundred percent leave that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: no doubt. But yeah, so just for comparison, right, Las
Speaker 1: Vegas has about thirty eight point eight million visitors per
Speaker 1: year as a twenty twenty, and then the Vegas metro
Speaker 1: area has a standing population of just under three million
Speaker 1: non tourists. Is what we're going to say, what we're
Speaker 1: going to call the people that aren't visiting, which reminds
Speaker 1: me is funny because I saw I think it was
Speaker 1: on the Grammys where like bad Money or somebody was
Speaker 1: singing it. It It was like speaking in non English, and
Speaker 1: I just think it's really funny, or like singing in
Speaker 1: non English. That apparently the two languages are English and
Speaker 1: non English. So the two categories of people in Las
Speaker 1: Vegas are like tourists and non tourists. That's what we're
Speaker 1: gonna go with. But by way of contrast, Disneyland has
Speaker 1: about like eight point five million visitors per year and
Speaker 1: a Disney World has over fifty eight million per years,
Speaker 1: So that's sixty million per year, not counting international parks.
Speaker 1: And by the way, just for comparison, the population of
Speaker 1: Reedy Creek is twenty four not twenty four thousand, not
Speaker 1: twenty four million, like twenty four people as of the
Speaker 1: most recent US census. Wow, I had no idea that
Speaker 1: that Disney World was comparable to Vegas in terms of
Speaker 1: visitor visitor numbers. That's that's fine, that's okay. No, I
Speaker 1: mean they're they're very similar. Like it's it's all, it's
Speaker 1: all a show, right, what happens in Disney stays in Disney.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I don't know, like this this grain
Speaker 1: of truth about this Disney theory is really compelling, and like,
Speaker 1: comparatively speaking, given the numbers that we just gave about
Speaker 1: the amount of people that die in Las Vegas, right,
Speaker 1: like a hundred excuse me, eleven hundred tourists die while
Speaker 1: visiting Vegas each year, is what we said, right, And
Speaker 1: so if you look at that being reported versus just
Speaker 1: the handful or so of deaths that we've been able
Speaker 1: to list coming from the Orlando Sentinel and the Florida
Speaker 1: Injury Law website, then it does seem like the Mouse
Speaker 1: is sort of succeeding in continuing this whole idea of
Speaker 1: no one dies at Disney. Comparatively speaking, if we look
Speaker 1: at those two tourist destinations, sure, sure, And I mean,
Speaker 1: of course, Vegas is a very different gig. I mean
Speaker 1: there's a lot more drinking and debauchery, and says who,
Speaker 1: I sure don't. I can't personally speak to the amount
Speaker 1: of debauchery that's happening at Disney World. And I also,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say anything else because I don't
Speaker 1: want the mouse to come after me. So no way
Speaker 1: more drinking and debauchery Inas Vegas. Huh, you still can
Speaker 1: only drink and I believe two locations in Disney's Magic
Speaker 1: Kingdom because Walt wanted to wanted that to be a
Speaker 1: place where kids were not subjected to that kind of behavior.
Speaker 1: You can drink in the other Disney parks. They do
Speaker 1: have like beer for sale at Chaos at the other
Speaker 1: three in Orlando, but you cannot thee that the two
Speaker 1: places are like wine or beer with dinner at Cinderella's
Speaker 1: Castle and Bell's Castle. Wow. I actually did not know that,
Speaker 1: so I just learned that today. Thank you. That's super interesting.
Speaker 1: So you said that's that Magic Kingdom people can't drink,
Speaker 1: but they can at the other ones. Okay, that's interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have been to Disney World as an adult. They
Speaker 1: have a drinking age, so that's not something that I
Speaker 1: would have remembered, but that's sort of fascinating. But I
Speaker 1: do definitely remember seeing, you know, for example, restaurants at
Speaker 1: Epcot where I know as a child, I saw people
Speaker 1: drinking there, like yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, it's it's as
Speaker 1: going as an adult is a really trippy experience. Um,
Speaker 1: I I enjoyed except for the people. I think if
Speaker 1: I had a lot of money, I would like going
Speaker 1: a lot better. If I could just like buy out
Speaker 1: the park or something for a day, because just the
Speaker 1: sheer number of humans, I'm like, oh, this is Mickey's great,
Speaker 1: but why are there humans talking to me? I don't
Speaker 1: like that. I mean, however, I will say, and like,
Speaker 1: Disney isn't a sponsor that I'm that I'm personally aware of.
Speaker 1: If they are, they're watching us. Um but uh but no, Um.
Speaker 1: The magic is intact like they do such a wildly
Speaker 1: good job of like pumping in sounds and and sense
Speaker 1: throughout the park that you you don't really notice until
Speaker 1: you start thinking about it, and then you're like, there's
Speaker 1: no reason for like, like, no one is actually producing
Speaker 1: candy on the street. It shouldn't taste, it shouldn't smell
Speaker 1: like like candy is being made here. Why is that
Speaker 1: bush playing music? I don't know? And so yeah, like
Speaker 1: that sense of magic, it extends to not having corpses
Speaker 1: littered the streets. I suppose. Oh my god, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: That was a really funny visual to me, and it
Speaker 1: should not have been, because people dying is not funny.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry everybody, really it's not. But people do die,
Speaker 1: and according to sources that I've seen that's at a
Speaker 1: rate at about approximately one hundred and six per minute
Speaker 1: around the world. They're one hundred and six people dying
Speaker 1: every minute. And so the fact of the matter is
Speaker 1: is just given the stats, people are going to happen.
Speaker 1: Some people are going to be taking their last breath
Speaker 1: on Disney grounds. There's no hospital there, you know. So
Speaker 1: again we talked about what this idea of the equal
Speaker 1: definition of dying or you know, when somebody is dying
Speaker 1: versus dead, But just with the numbers, somebody's taking their
Speaker 1: last breath underneath Cinderella's Castle, and there have actually been
Speaker 1: literally there have been people pronounced dead on Disney grounds. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, unfortunately for those wishing to believe that
Speaker 1: no one dies at Disney, that is not in fact true.
Speaker 1: So now that we have established that, that is just
Speaker 1: about going to do it for us. But we would
Speaker 1: love to hear from you. What do you think about
Speaker 1: all of this? Have you heard this conspiracy before or
Speaker 1: any other conspiracies about Walt Disney? Have you personally died
Speaker 1: at Disney World? Please tell us your story. And there
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Speaker 1: to check you out after giving this a listen? Oh
Speaker 1: heck sure, yeah if you want me to. If you
Speaker 1: want to hear me talk about or dead people. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm on a show called American Shadows. It's a historical
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Speaker 1: Aaron Menky's company Grim and Mild, so it's got that
Speaker 1: same kind of vibe. And uh yeah, I'm also on
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