Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two seventy eight,
Speaker 1: Episode four of DITII Hi I Stay production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's share consciousness. And it is Friday, March tenth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. My name's Jack O'Brien aka The Discord.
Speaker 1: Wants nikes. They're looking for podcast. Tell them it ain't
Speaker 1: likely said I'd look like el this Costello. I fight
Speaker 1: that good fight like Modello. That is courtesy of Bacaroni
Speaker 1: on The Discord. I think in reference to the fact
Speaker 1: that we didn't drop an episode without warning one day
Speaker 1: earlier this week, and that is on me. Apologies, but
Speaker 1: everything is okay, and yeah, thanks for bearing with us.
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined by today's guest co host
Speaker 1: jumping in last moment. Due to some technical difficulties, it
Speaker 1: is super producer Becca Ramah. Not gonna lie, Jack. It
Speaker 1: took me a second to figure out what song. Well,
Speaker 1: I didn't have the if I could, if I if
Speaker 1: I had a helium balloon here, that would have helped. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would have helped. But I got it. Towards the end,
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, Elvis Costello modelo rhyme. I have
Speaker 1: to hand it to mister Lockerroni or missus LOCKARONI. I
Speaker 1: actually don't know. Well, Becca, thank you for jumping in
Speaker 1: last moment. Of course, we are thrilled to be joined
Speaker 1: in our third and fourth seats by the hosts of
Speaker 1: the podcast Endless Thread from w bu R MPR's Boston station,
Speaker 1: which examines the blurred lines between the online world and reality.
Speaker 1: It's Amrie Siebertson and Ben brock Johnson. Wow, you said
Speaker 1: my name, so chef's kiss perfect? Perfect, No, no, thank you.
Speaker 1: I went and listened to how you say it, and
Speaker 1: I figured you probably usually get it right some days.
Speaker 1: That's right, the most basic amount of homework, the least
Speaker 1: amount of homework, exactly, and I will take the credit.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Yes, thank you, thank you. I am a professional.
Speaker 1: Also the best, the best and most fully committed Frank
Speaker 1: Ocean impression I've heard at least today. Yes, that is
Speaker 1: what's important. I mean, it's probably the fourth or fifth
Speaker 1: that you've heard. I truly did what. I was like,
Speaker 1: My my son has a balloon with helium in it
Speaker 1: in his bedroom, and I was like, should I go
Speaker 1: because his voice is pitched up at that part. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it, but I didn't want to
Speaker 1: do it to his Ninja Turtles balloon. I mean you
Speaker 1: were I couldn't and I can't sing, so I commend you.
Speaker 1: I can't either, and slippery slope. Helium's a slippery sloped.
Speaker 1: I have passed out more than once from helium. So wow, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just the line between the right amount and the
Speaker 1: perfect vocal register and power on the floor. How long
Speaker 1: have I been blacked out for? It is very thick.
Speaker 1: This is actually an intervention memories a healing in that
Speaker 1: it's a helium problem. Yeah, for the helium heads bad news.
Speaker 1: It's an exhaustible resource that we're apparently running out of.
Speaker 1: It's just like stored in a cave somewhere, I guess.
Speaker 1: Any boy, that's we had balloons that floated on the ceiling.
Speaker 1: Did you know the Goodyear Blimp is full of helium? Helium?
Speaker 1: That was yeah, I assumed that they weren't with the
Speaker 1: same Well, yeah, hunt, we have to every time the
Speaker 1: story of the Hindenburg, right, I think? So yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: just holding Do you think if we all just had
Speaker 1: a quarter everyone in this zoom room we all just
Speaker 1: took turns taken a hit from the good Year Blimp
Speaker 1: pass out. Of course Amory wants to take it there exactly.
Speaker 1: You know, truf give one the Goodyear Blimp the cipher
Speaker 1: for the good Year Blimp. Okay, I've said some weird
Speaker 1: expectations of myself. All yeah, just how how many hits
Speaker 1: do you think it would take to get to the
Speaker 1: center of the and it would be like it'd be
Speaker 1: like one yeah on the floor. Your voice was at
Speaker 1: a point that only teenagers could hear, because, as we
Speaker 1: talked about, they have different hearing, they have different frequencies,
Speaker 1: and you guys are both in the process of Before
Speaker 1: we started recording, you were talking about how you're both
Speaker 1: in the process of menacing some teenagers, trying to get
Speaker 1: some no good kids out of a park that you frequent. Yes,
Speaker 1: I have some no good kids in the park near
Speaker 1: my house and they clearly I mean I love that
Speaker 1: they have a spot to rebel against sure the man,
Speaker 1: but they litter. They leave their crushed bottles and beer
Speaker 1: cans everywhere. And Ben just recently saw that spot for
Speaker 1: the first time when we were on a walk near
Speaker 1: my house, and you can attest ben right, it's atrocious.
Speaker 1: It is a disaster. It's like the giant floating like
Speaker 1: massive plastic in the Pacific Ocean, except it's in the
Speaker 1: woods next day, land locked, the land locked Pacific traffic trash. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and what we've heard is that that's where the cops
Speaker 1: grew up partying, and so they don't do anything about
Speaker 1: it because it's just understood to be the wasteland safe zone,
Speaker 1: safe zone for teenage partying, interesting children, children of cups
Speaker 1: and okay, yeah, see that's where I'm like the line
Speaker 1: not great, because I was about to be like, okay,
Speaker 1: well I was a degenerate out of park. But I
Speaker 1: was also like a a what's the word I'm looking for,
Speaker 1: a nerd degenerate. So there was no alcohol involved. I
Speaker 1: was just like late night at a park being like, okay,
Speaker 1: this is in my house. This is a great place
Speaker 1: to be. But if they're littering, not okay, worse off
Speaker 1: if they're cops children. So absolutely, you were just leaving
Speaker 1: your magic the gathering cards in the park. No, No,
Speaker 1: that's my brother, so let's not. She was planting flowers
Speaker 1: there after hours, beautifying. I was a girl scout, so
Speaker 1: not probably nice. All right, Well, we're going to get
Speaker 1: to know you both a little bit better. But first
Speaker 1: we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things
Speaker 1: we're talking about today. Elon Musk apparently wants to is
Speaker 1: in the process of building a utopian in very big
Speaker 1: scare quotes company town. What could go wrong? We will
Speaker 1: talk about that, but we will definitely be talking about
Speaker 1: daylights here time, because that is apparently the most divisive
Speaker 1: issue happening in politics. And we might even bid a
Speaker 1: fond farewell to chewing gum, which is apparently dying of
Speaker 1: slow death currently, which makes me sad because I love
Speaker 1: to have a good chew, not if Amory or my
Speaker 1: wife has anything to do with it. Yeah, I'm a
Speaker 1: chain chewer. It's a problem. Yeah. Do you have a
Speaker 1: particular brand that you're loyal to? It's a good question.
Speaker 1: I was chewing I it is evolved over the years.
Speaker 1: I think my favorite flavor is cinnamon. I used to
Speaker 1: love a cinnamon gum, but it loses its flavor really quickly.
Speaker 1: So I migrated over to the thing that has really
Speaker 1: done me in, which is like the hard capsules, the
Speaker 1: ones that are like little nuggets you know, and I increase. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of candy coated, and I upped my intakes, so like,
Speaker 1: my tolerance has become higher and higher. So I used
Speaker 1: to just chew one little note it and then I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that feels like nothing in my mouth.
Speaker 1: Then I up to it to two. Then I up
Speaker 1: to it to three at a time, and I started
Speaker 1: getting very bad headaches. I say, so, do you have TMJ?
Speaker 1: Also no, but I have been told that, you know,
Speaker 1: any day now, I'm gonna start having real job. So
Speaker 1: I have scaled it back a little bit, and maybe
Speaker 1: that's why the industry is struggling. Yeah, you are responsible
Speaker 1: for the dip and sales. The actual bubble had to burst.
Speaker 1: That sounds right there. It is. But before we get
Speaker 1: to any of that stuff, we do like to ask
Speaker 1: our guests. Amory will start with you, what is something
Speaker 1: from your search history? Well, my personal and work search
Speaker 1: histories are are pretty different. I guess work lately for
Speaker 1: an episode that we have coming up, which I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's a complicated story, but I found myself googling gifts
Speaker 1: from the Chinese consulate to foreigners because that isn't a
Speaker 1: piece of this particular story, and this person received a
Speaker 1: very beautiful, delicate yellow vase from the Chinese Consulate in Chicago,
Speaker 1: and they claimed it to be a very rare, very
Speaker 1: prestigious honor. And so I was googling around to see
Speaker 1: what I could learn about what the Chinese Consulate actually
Speaker 1: gives to foreigners that they want to that they want
Speaker 1: to thank, and then my more personal search history. That's
Speaker 1: just like, I've been on the hunt for raspberry rallies,
Speaker 1: the new flavor of Girl Scout cookie, for months and
Speaker 1: months now, and they are not available anywhere everywhere. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: so I've procured. I finally procured a couple of boxes
Speaker 1: because I set a calendar reminder for myself. I knew
Speaker 1: one particular troop was going to have them on February
Speaker 1: twenty seven. So I, oh my god, thin mints, but
Speaker 1: like with raspberry in them, yes, exactly. And there's vegan, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm vegan, and so there are only a few
Speaker 1: vegan Girl Scout cookies. And I've known this was coming
Speaker 1: for months and months and then I couldn't get a
Speaker 1: damn box. But I'm gonna have to call my mom
Speaker 1: and a few and be like, can you hunt down
Speaker 1: the kids at school. I need some cookie. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you just you have a connect now, Becca, former you know,
Speaker 1: former Girl Scout sales associate. My mom used to run
Speaker 1: a little cookie market out of her classroom when I
Speaker 1: was a Girl Scout, and I would be like the
Speaker 1: top seller in Texas because kids would just like bring
Speaker 1: cash and buy cookies for my mom's cookie booth. And
Speaker 1: she didn't get in trouble at one point because they
Speaker 1: were like, you can't sell things to the children, and
Speaker 1: Mom's like, but like, I'm not profiting so right, it's
Speaker 1: like I don't benefit. The Girl Scouts get the money.
Speaker 1: But she could be with these because apparently these are
Speaker 1: hitting the resale market and being marked up, which is crazy.
Speaker 1: I haven't even thought to check the resale market at
Speaker 1: might get to that point. It's actually right next to
Speaker 1: the helium black market, is them. So these are dry,
Speaker 1: Like I was picturing a cookie that had like some
Speaker 1: raspberry jelly jam situation. This is just a raspberry flavored cookie,
Speaker 1: no mint, just a kind of vanilla raspberry type deal
Speaker 1: inside a chocolate coated But but they're shaped exactly like
Speaker 1: thin mint. What do you mean? Just what do you mean?
Speaker 1: Just a raspberry chocolate cookie. I was I had jelly
Speaker 1: on the brain, you know, I was ready jelly jelly,
Speaker 1: and there's no jelly that I was assuming that when
Speaker 1: I Googled. I was like assuming it'd be like a
Speaker 1: short bread you know, jelly cookie take. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a classic cookie. Cookies don't Yeah, that's fair. That's fair.
Speaker 1: How about you, Ben, what is something from your search history?
Speaker 1: Usually I tease Amory about being um, kind of like
Speaker 1: a bit of a grandma. I was going to say
Speaker 1: before like the only time she started complaining about the
Speaker 1: kids in the woods was like after one of the
Speaker 1: weekly grandma meetings that she goes too. Surely, but um,
Speaker 1: but I I But in this moment, I was like,
Speaker 1: how do I find my search history? I had like
Speaker 1: one of those moments where I was like, how do
Speaker 1: I even get to this? And it legit? My most
Speaker 1: immediate result is view my Google search history? Okay, no,
Speaker 1: but I one that I had recently was Aqua Lagoon
Speaker 1: water Park, West Springfield. So I live in central Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: And as Amory will know, and our listeners, if they've
Speaker 1: listened to our swimming whole episode will know from listening
Speaker 1: to endless thread. I love a swim spot indoor, outdoor, winter, summer,
Speaker 1: spring fall. If I can go swimming, that's like one
Speaker 1: of my top If I have some free time, I'm
Speaker 1: looking for a place to swim. And I was supposed
Speaker 1: to hang out with some friends recently and I was
Speaker 1: like desperately searching. I was supposed to hang out with
Speaker 1: some friends like close to where I live, and I
Speaker 1: was I was like I didn't really want to take
Speaker 1: them to the why, but I was like, we should
Speaker 1: go swimming, Like how where can we go swimming? And
Speaker 1: I used to live in New York City and they
Speaker 1: had this place called Spa Castle out in Flushing that
Speaker 1: was like amazing, and I had all of these like
Speaker 1: the copper room and the ice room and the salt room,
Speaker 1: and like you could go into all these different rooms
Speaker 1: and also had these like this sort of like palatial
Speaker 1: set of different um swimming pools a hot times. Yeah, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and it is massive and amazing. I actually don't know
Speaker 1: if it's still open. I haven't been for a long time,
Speaker 1: but I was kind of looking for that. I was like,
Speaker 1: we gotta have a spa around here somewhere right now.
Speaker 1: The answers now it's like college swimming pools that I'm
Speaker 1: not allowed in, you know, without being a called edgecap
Speaker 1: which was a long time ago, or or y mcas.
Speaker 1: There's no like I found this, you know. I mean
Speaker 1: the Lagoon water park that reviews did not look good.
Speaker 1: It's like in a hotel, I think, but yeah, that's
Speaker 1: winter swimming in Massachusetts? Is that? Are you only doing
Speaker 1: that indoors? I'm as swimming or I'm not bold enough
Speaker 1: to do it. You're not like a whim hoof method
Speaker 1: person who's like out here being like you have to
Speaker 1: shock your body and put yourself in pain every day.
Speaker 1: I have done that. I have done that and enjoyed it,
Speaker 1: but it's not my like regular like get together with
Speaker 1: some friends and jumping the water man. I love a
Speaker 1: good water park and water parks I feel like are
Speaker 1: underrepresentative on the West Coast as compared to the East Coast.
Speaker 1: And I've always had the theory that it's because the
Speaker 1: air is thinner and less like there there's less humidity
Speaker 1: out here and so it's just colder when you get
Speaker 1: out of the water and southern California. But I don't
Speaker 1: I said that on the show and people explain to
Speaker 1: me that I was wrong, And there are plenty of
Speaker 1: water parks out here, but it just feels like less
Speaker 1: of a cultural thing that everybody does. That also in America,
Speaker 1: like there's there's like we are we are poor in
Speaker 1: water parks. I think America is like Europe has some
Speaker 1: like incredible water parks. I feel like whereas. I think
Speaker 1: it really depends on where you are, because being from Texas,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of water parks. Oh yes, I
Speaker 1: feel like should be in Texas. I grew up in
Speaker 1: water parks. Now, as an adult post COVID, I don't
Speaker 1: think I could ever step foot in a water park.
Speaker 1: But when I was a blissful child, I was at
Speaker 1: schlitter Bond every summer spring break, like we family vacation
Speaker 1: schlitter Band and there's just schlitter South Padres on San Antonio,
Speaker 1: like there's there're everywhere new bronze fouls. Uh. And then
Speaker 1: there is um this other one, like this indie park
Speaker 1: in Waco which was crazy water park. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like this tiny, tiny little water park, but they also
Speaker 1: had like a wakeboarding park which got famous for this
Speaker 1: very dangerous slide that they had. And then you had
Speaker 1: like Brazos River Ride. It's like it's just water in Texas.
Speaker 1: It's like the whole thing. It's the only fun thing
Speaker 1: about Texas is doing water related things. I love a
Speaker 1: famously dangerous water park, a documented thing about Okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean even a disney World. When I was a kid,
Speaker 1: like the best part of my trip to Disney World
Speaker 1: was a place called River Country. I remember thinking as
Speaker 1: a kid, like this seems irresponsible part of Disney World
Speaker 1: to like have, because it's just they built a water
Speaker 1: park into the swamp, and it's there's just so much
Speaker 1: brown water that like kids are swimming around in, like
Speaker 1: so so much ground to cover for a lifeguard. But
Speaker 1: they shut that down and now it's like this post
Speaker 1: apocalyptic rotting husk of an old water park. Nice. If
Speaker 1: I wasn't going to be a podc if I wasn't
Speaker 1: going to grow up to be a podcaster, I wanted
Speaker 1: in sixth grade, I really wanted to actually design water slides. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I had like a moment where I was
Speaker 1: like I was super into it and drawing them and stuff,
Speaker 1: and I think that's got to be a job. I
Speaker 1: just I just never found my way. They didn't have
Speaker 1: that major in college when I was there. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: should get on it. College is amory. What's something you take?
Speaker 1: Is overrated? Oh? So many things? And yet I really
Speaker 1: don't like to yuck other people's yems. But sure this
Speaker 1: is a take. Okay, I think Trader Joe's is overrated.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, thank you? Yeah, I know. So here's
Speaker 1: here's here's my thing I've had. I've had good experience
Speaker 1: as a Trader Joe's. Like if I go on a
Speaker 1: reporting trip, I spend fifty bucks and I have food
Speaker 1: for the entire week because I eat like I'm on
Speaker 1: a camp trip and I just make myself like peanut
Speaker 1: butter banana sandwiches. But if i'm you know, if we're
Speaker 1: being honest about Trader Joe's, the Trader Joe's that I've
Speaker 1: gone to at least are in like affluent neighborhoods that
Speaker 1: maybe don't need the cost savings of a Trader Joe's
Speaker 1: set up. I don't like when you when you get
Speaker 1: hooked on their particular products, and then if you can't
Speaker 1: find a Trader Joe's, you're like, but what about my
Speaker 1: sweet potato nioki with brown butter sage or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, and the produce. I'm a real produce gal,
Speaker 1: and I don't think the produce is ever that terrific.
Speaker 1: It's not like an afterthought. Yeah, it's usually really bad.
Speaker 1: I will give you that. Like now, as a grown adult,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, maybe Trader Joe's isn't the best option,
Speaker 1: But when I, like when my partner's not here and
Speaker 1: I'm like alone for a while because he's been traveling
Speaker 1: a lot, Trader Joe's is the better option if you're
Speaker 1: trying to buy for one person because they do make
Speaker 1: portions small. Like if I buy like a thing of
Speaker 1: frozen fetched bowls or you know, even certain produce and things,
Speaker 1: it's like much easier to buy for one, whereas like
Speaker 1: if I'm buying for both of us, we'll probably go
Speaker 1: to like a Whole Foods or you know, a regular
Speaker 1: grocery store because you can actually buy for a reasonable family.
Speaker 1: But if you are buying for one, I do think
Speaker 1: Trader Joe's is in a pinch great because You're right,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of things that are just like
Speaker 1: I love it because I love it, but I's not practical.
Speaker 1: Always little packages of nuts and seeds. They're perfect. I
Speaker 1: get it, but it's yeah, I think it's it's it
Speaker 1: fills an important role in some people's lives, but it's
Speaker 1: never going to be my my grocery store of choice.
Speaker 1: And when people are like there's no Trader Joe's, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: deal with it. The five other options. Let's up those
Speaker 1: parking lots. Parking lots. The parking lots are crazy. In
Speaker 1: every Trader Joe's, it's like, it's never right. What is
Speaker 1: this such a weird seems like a decision was like
Speaker 1: O small cars for driving to the Trader Joe's made right,
Speaker 1: I don't yeah, or like an argument that we're like
Speaker 1: living in a computer program. That's the only like that's
Speaker 1: the you know what I mean, there's something about that
Speaker 1: the perking lot is terrible in every Trader Joe's. We
Speaker 1: this must be the same ration. They also made the decision,
Speaker 1: like I remember researching how grocery stores are distributed, and
Speaker 1: like they all kind of followed the same design for
Speaker 1: for a long time, like that they would all like
Speaker 1: kind of flow in the same circular direction that like
Speaker 1: the human mind is like most comfortable going. I think
Speaker 1: it was counterclockwise, and then Trader Joe's was just like
Speaker 1: weird going to just put things randomly like where it's
Speaker 1: not it's going to be randomly placed. And I think
Speaker 1: that then up ended the standard order of like everybody
Speaker 1: kind of agreeing that they would design their grocery stores
Speaker 1: in the same way. And it I just I always
Speaker 1: feel a little at see when I like walk into
Speaker 1: a Trader Joe's, like as to where I'm gooing and
Speaker 1: like where to find stuff? Yeah, I have to ask
Speaker 1: the Trader Joe's employees, And then that brings in a
Speaker 1: whole new problem I have with Trader Joe's, which is
Speaker 1: that they want they want to know about me. I
Speaker 1: want to have some conversation, just like a man, and
Speaker 1: the jury is still owed on whether they're union friendly
Speaker 1: or not. So right, you've been going through some of
Speaker 1: those good point struggles too, Yeah, Trader Joe's feels like
Speaker 1: the sort of place that would have a company town
Speaker 1: if company towns were like more normal, like yet they
Speaker 1: would have like little towns next to the people who
Speaker 1: live near these. Trader Joe's practically are town generally speaking,
Speaker 1: I stay away from anybody wearing like repeatedly wearing Winan
Speaker 1: shirts on purpose. It's like proud boys prooys about them
Speaker 1: and in Trader Joe's employees. I don't know. Yeah, i'd
Speaker 1: stay out of that company town. I don't know. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll come back, Ben, We'll
Speaker 1: hear you're overrated and you guys is underrated, and maybe
Speaker 1: get into some news. We'll be right back and word
Speaker 1: back and Ben, what is something that you think is overrated?
Speaker 1: I had, I had two things. I'm not sure which
Speaker 1: one is better. I'm just gonna go. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna breeze by one and say TikTok explainers because
Speaker 1: half of them are bs I feel. And then I'm
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go to a bigger one in this
Speaker 1: moment for me, which is that and this this is
Speaker 1: a this is a theory. It's not deeply researched. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say train derailment stories, train derailment stories are overrated.
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is that ever since
Speaker 1: the horrible story in Ohio that we all followed and
Speaker 1: were just incredibly sad, I mean I was incredibly saddened
Speaker 1: and angered by to see that story sort of play
Speaker 1: out and learn who's you know, who's who's suffering from
Speaker 1: it and who's not suffering from it, if that makes
Speaker 1: any sense. I just feel like now I'm seeing trained
Speaker 1: derailment stories all the time, like I'm seeing them over
Speaker 1: and over, and I guess what I can't tell in
Speaker 1: this moment, and this is what I mean by overrated,
Speaker 1: is whether this is a sort of like a larger
Speaker 1: issue that we are now coming to terms with because
Speaker 1: they're actually happening, because there is an actual jump in
Speaker 1: trained derailments, or if the media generally is now all
Speaker 1: of a sudden like trained derailments. Jimmy, go give me
Speaker 1: the latest trained derailment story, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like there's more if it's like big plane and big
Speaker 1: automobile in trains not seem like the big bright future
Speaker 1: that they that they can and should have, probably for
Speaker 1: the sake of the planets, And that seems like a
Speaker 1: little late for them to jump in on that. But yes,
Speaker 1: and I just feel like it's it's one of those
Speaker 1: things where like I can't quite tell what's happening there.
Speaker 1: It may be both, but I just it may be
Speaker 1: both that it's like it is a problem that's happening more.
Speaker 1: And also we are like hyper at tunes to it
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, there's you know, I just feel like
Speaker 1: I keep seeing these stories and I'm like, are they are? We?
Speaker 1: Do we need all these train derailment stories? Is this
Speaker 1: a thing that's happening all the time and now all
Speaker 1: of a sudden we're paying attention. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it does. It does feel like a bad
Speaker 1: thing to be happening all the time in the background
Speaker 1: while we ignore it. But also I also I also
Speaker 1: think that there's definitely, I think always a media bias
Speaker 1: for towards like I always bring up this snowstorm that
Speaker 1: happened in New York City and the media was caught
Speaker 1: flat footed, like they it was like twenty percent chance
Speaker 1: of snow this day, and then there was like a
Speaker 1: blizzard that stranded people in their cars, like in the
Speaker 1: middle of the street. And then the next time that
Speaker 1: there was any chance of snow, it was like snow,
Speaker 1: and like that's the thing that just always happened. So
Speaker 1: I yeah, I appreciate your point on that, but this
Speaker 1: does feel like one where, especially with like the union
Speaker 1: conversations that have been happening and Biden's a big train guy.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think my theory is all that crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, you think it's that, you think
Speaker 1: it's the air you think it's the airline industry lines. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not necessarily, but you know, like they're high speed rail
Speaker 1: in the United States would be a very good thing.
Speaker 1: And when you have a lot of stories all at
Speaker 1: once that are instilling a fear of train travel in people,
Speaker 1: because like you said, maybe it's just that there are
Speaker 1: a lot of train derailments right now. But the more
Speaker 1: fear that is instilled, the easier it is to talk
Speaker 1: us out of something that is actually a very good
Speaker 1: idea for you know, society and for the planet and
Speaker 1: the future of transportation. So Southwest Airlines, like Michael Clayton,
Speaker 1: bad guy was out on the train track to Ohio,
Speaker 1: Like right, we don't know exactly. I mean the stick
Speaker 1: of butter, we kind of do that light rail between
Speaker 1: Dallas and Houston, so crazy. Southwest headquarters are in Dallas,
Speaker 1: so true. Yeah, but are they inspiring the media to
Speaker 1: cover it? That's my point. See, I'm always like skeptical
Speaker 1: of that, Like every like I feel, like, you know,
Speaker 1: on the on the right. I always hear this like
Speaker 1: media conspiracy stuff, and I'm like, man, do you guys,
Speaker 1: I mean, I work at public radio. I'm like, do
Speaker 1: you guys realize how disorganized we are? Like? This is
Speaker 1: not nobody it has the ability to be to make
Speaker 1: a phone call unless they're Rubert Murdoch. It talks news.
Speaker 1: Nobody has the ability to make a phone call or
Speaker 1: a comment that actually drives trash coverage down the chain,
Speaker 1: at least not in my brain experience, Amory, what's something
Speaker 1: you think is underrated? Well, this isn't going to do
Speaker 1: anything to disprove Ben's accusations that I am an old woman,
Speaker 1: but they're both elderly things. But I'm gonna I'm sticking
Speaker 1: to my guns, and I'm gonna say flossing. Flossing is
Speaker 1: highly underrated. You don't know all the shit you're missing
Speaker 1: in your teeth until you start flossing, and then once
Speaker 1: you start, you'll never go back because you know exactly
Speaker 1: what's in there and what you got out. And everyone
Speaker 1: should be flossing. So I'm sticking to it. Spicy take,
Speaker 1: thank you. I am now flossing daily for the first
Speaker 1: time in my life. Really yet to have my teeth
Speaker 1: cleaning like chick follow up, like final exam. It's how
Speaker 1: I'm viewing it. So I'm like, I've never had a
Speaker 1: cavity in my life, and I'm like thinking that, like
Speaker 1: for some reason, this is going to be like the
Speaker 1: first time I had, Like so you get at yeah,
Speaker 1: I get a cavity from flossing somehow. Talked to a
Speaker 1: dentist who is saying that, like your mouth is constantly
Speaker 1: at war between like cavities and gum disease. Like those
Speaker 1: are the two things that can be going on in
Speaker 1: your mouth, but like it's kind of one or the
Speaker 1: other because they're like caused by like bacteria that are
Speaker 1: like at war with one another. And so if you're
Speaker 1: not a cavity person, you probably are dealing with gum
Speaker 1: disease and or like vice versa. I would party in
Speaker 1: there at the very least, like cavities, gum disease or
Speaker 1: party Like there's a party in your mouth. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a party in your mouth something Yeah your breath smell
Speaker 1: like yeah, then how about you? What's something you think
Speaker 1: is underrated? The whold my nip subreddit. I really like
Speaker 1: the hold. I know, I know what it sounds like.
Speaker 1: The hold my Nip subreddit. And this is of course
Speaker 1: something that we've discovered through making endless thread over the
Speaker 1: years and looking at a lot of stories on Reddit,
Speaker 1: and you know, you get into some weird subs, and
Speaker 1: I got into this suble a while ago. Now it's
Speaker 1: part of the constellation of cat related subreddits. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've heard of my hold my beer,
Speaker 1: of course, you know, hold my shar Oh, my man,
Speaker 1: that cold, my cosmo. And so this is this is
Speaker 1: just footage of cats high on cat nip, and it's
Speaker 1: I find it to be very you know, just to
Speaker 1: bring me a little bit of light and joy when
Speaker 1: I'm feeling when I'm feeling gloomy. Hold my nip is good.
Speaker 1: High animals, that's a yeah. Yeah. And I'm not pro high.
Speaker 1: I'm not pro getting your animals highness saahly. So I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. I don't know. Maybe maybe folks feel weird
Speaker 1: about katnip in general, but I will watch it on
Speaker 1: the internet and I will enjoy it. So amazing. We
Speaker 1: we just found out about shower Orange as a subreddit,
Speaker 1: so this is a new Yeah, we had a whole
Speaker 1: shower Yeah, yeah, still haven't partaken, did you guys, for
Speaker 1: for the purposes of research, partake in the show? Yeah? Yeah, Bend.
Speaker 1: Did I think you recorded some in the shower? Right? Wow?
Speaker 1: Yeah I did. I still haven't tried it. I don't
Speaker 1: know what's wrong with me. It's amazing. It lives up
Speaker 1: to the hud. I mean, I've had a showers oil.
Speaker 1: Citrus oil in general in your zone is a good thing,
Speaker 1: I think, but in the shower it's even better. One
Speaker 1: of our listeners that actually pomelo shower. Pomelos are the
Speaker 1: the way that's or pamello. I guess that's how you
Speaker 1: pronounced that. Anyways, it's a great fruit, right, Yes, it's
Speaker 1: a great fruit with a lot of like puffy padding
Speaker 1: around it. But yeah, it's like a sweeter grape fruit.
Speaker 1: They are wonderful. All right, Let's get into a little
Speaker 1: bit of news. Let's talk about so Elon Musk wants
Speaker 1: to build a utopian company town in like near his
Speaker 1: boring and SpaceX facilities in Texas. Planning to turn he
Speaker 1: bought thousands of acres of Texas land, and I guess
Speaker 1: is incorporating them into a town. There's a sign up
Speaker 1: that says welcome Snailbrook, Texas established twenty twenty one, and
Speaker 1: this well one of our you know, Cody Johnston, one
Speaker 1: of our favorites, had this tweet where he was just
Speaker 1: documenting this person speed read Dan Vibolager at Vibolager on Twitter,
Speaker 1: who was did a long thread of who should Elon
Speaker 1: Musk date. As a physiognomist and master matchmaker, I've identified
Speaker 1: twelve potential sweet sweet sutresses for our chief tweeter. I've
Speaker 1: analyzed their social media profiles and suggests Elon Musker his
Speaker 1: team reach out to one of them one of these
Speaker 1: lovely ladies promptly as just a very dark thread wherein
Speaker 1: he ranks one of the people, fashion model Claire Jamison.
Speaker 1: She is the youngest and the purest on this list,
Speaker 1: eighteen years young, solid personality, and then at tenth former
Speaker 1: Victoria's Secret model Magdalena Frank Hawiyak. She would be higher
Speaker 1: up the list except she's the oldest on here at
Speaker 1: thirty eight. Chris, Yeah, very gross. It just it feels
Speaker 1: like there's already a cult key aspect to the the
Speaker 1: energy around Elon Musk and company. Towns just don't have
Speaker 1: the best history just in general anywhere you don't say yeah,
Speaker 1: it turns out and I'm so tired, man, aren't you
Speaker 1: guys tired? And for the rest of the episode, we're
Speaker 1: actually just going to cut off here and go take
Speaker 1: a nap. Becca, as a Texan, how what are you
Speaker 1: feeling right now? Not good? But also this has been
Speaker 1: like the downturn of Austin for so long because Austin
Speaker 1: has become the little tech capital of the South. It
Speaker 1: you know, has Facebook's offices over there. You got now
Speaker 1: Twitter because of Elon, but also SpaceX and Tesla. Like
Speaker 1: last time I was in Austin, which was in November,
Speaker 1: I drove past the Tesla factory and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is crazy. I've never seen anything like this before,
Speaker 1: Like just like against the highway was huge and all
Speaker 1: these Tesla's and I don't know, it's really poisoned. I
Speaker 1: think the culture. I think it's soured the vibe there too,
Speaker 1: because now you have all these tech bros coming in
Speaker 1: with their tech money in a place that used to
Speaker 1: be pretty affordable. To be honest, I talked to a
Speaker 1: few of my friends that live in Austin, and they're
Speaker 1: paying as much rent as I am. And I live
Speaker 1: in New York City, you know, And I'm like, that
Speaker 1: should not be the case. You should not be paying
Speaker 1: more rent some of them than I'm paying to live
Speaker 1: in New York City. That is baffling to me. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm never moving back to Texas for many reasons. But
Speaker 1: if you're going to tell me I have to pay
Speaker 1: more in rent, out of a solution for you, Becca,
Speaker 1: because the rent is actually going to be lower than
Speaker 1: what it is in the surrounding community for people who
Speaker 1: work and live there, but they have to work at
Speaker 1: Tesla or SpaceX, SpaceX or boring. Okay, SpaceX are boring.
Speaker 1: And it's also like you you'll be able to live
Speaker 1: in one of the residents is not the residents that
Speaker 1: they're building. That is like just in the offing, overlooking
Speaker 1: the whole thing that is being built specifically for him.
Speaker 1: That is like a giant mansion, but that like literally
Speaker 1: the layout from the town. And don't worry, Darling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, don't worry, Darling vibes, Crypto Island vibes. I
Speaker 1: just feel like, like, here's here's what I think is
Speaker 1: the good news from this story. Maybe is like my
Speaker 1: friend Ted Man, who he writes for The Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 1: He did a big sort of investigation on on boring
Speaker 1: company and kind of that company's impact on towns that
Speaker 1: it promised to dig tunnels for a few months back,
Speaker 1: and like the the takeaway is like it's all bullshit, man,
Speaker 1: Like he's just you know, like, I don't think that
Speaker 1: this is gonna turn into like like so many Elon
Speaker 1: Musk promises, this is gonna sort of like here in
Speaker 1: a wisp of fart smelling smoke. You know. It's just like,
Speaker 1: I sure that's my prediction, not knowing much about much,
Speaker 1: but I just think every time he announces something like this,
Speaker 1: everybody's like, is it going to happen? And it's almost
Speaker 1: never happens. Yeah, it does seem ill fated that somebody
Speaker 1: who wouldn't even give his Twitter employees toilet paper at
Speaker 1: the office would now be like in control of an
Speaker 1: entire town, suburban community. I mean there is a part
Speaker 1: of it too that it's like I feel like Texas
Speaker 1: is prone to cults for its like spaciousness and like
Speaker 1: devoutism over there because I went to Baylor. Yikes, and
Speaker 1: it's in Waco. I don't know what you're talking about
Speaker 1: what I've never so it doesn't like I do feel
Speaker 1: like sadly with like the weird tech broke culture that
Speaker 1: like something could happen of this of like out of
Speaker 1: all his you know, outlandish promises. I feel like people
Speaker 1: will move here just to be a part of the culture.
Speaker 1: It kind of doubles down on the thing that does
Speaker 1: work for him, which is creating a cult around him,
Speaker 1: create like just doubling and tripling down on the you
Speaker 1: know belief that America has. Like I talk about how
Speaker 1: like America it has this danger where like in the UK,
Speaker 1: there is like the royal family where they like put
Speaker 1: all their like self serious solemnity and like you know
Speaker 1: belief in leadership, and you know there's almost like a
Speaker 1: spiritual aspect to it, and that is like disconnected from
Speaker 1: the actual person making the decisions. But in America we
Speaker 1: like collapse all of that into the president and now
Speaker 1: we have like a somebody running for president who has
Speaker 1: a death cult around them, who what was the president
Speaker 1: fairly recently. And I feel like Elon Musk also has
Speaker 1: this kind of dangerous combination of just people who are
Speaker 1: like almost spiritually devoted to him because like there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of space for spiritual and like interpersonal connection.
Speaker 1: Like so just like all of those things that you know,
Speaker 1: people used to get from church and being part of
Speaker 1: like a union or you know, being part of their
Speaker 1: community and knowing their neighbors, like all that stuff is
Speaker 1: getting replaced and like collapsed into like how they feel
Speaker 1: about billionaires and shit like that. And so yeah, well
Speaker 1: the same thing that attracts some people to him is
Speaker 1: the thing that makes me, that tells me inside to
Speaker 1: run away. Yeah I don't. I just yeah, the best
Speaker 1: thing about Tesla he was not even responsible for. And
Speaker 1: so the rest of it is is a still to
Speaker 1: be proven concept that is coming out of this figure
Speaker 1: that to me is so unsavory. Yeah, there's nothing me,
Speaker 1: there's nothing pulling me towards the vision that he's trying
Speaker 1: to build. Yeah. No, My only hope is, like I
Speaker 1: sometimes I wonder how much of that, like we on
Speaker 1: our show, we you know, we say about them with
Speaker 1: this sort of connection between online communities and real life
Speaker 1: community communities, and that's where what we're sort of looking at.
Speaker 1: I do wonder if Elon Musk his you know, his
Speaker 1: image is larger on the internet, if that makes any sense,
Speaker 1: and like that's the thing that I cling to in
Speaker 1: these moments where I'm just like, yes, yeah, I'm concerned
Speaker 1: about all of this stuff. And I also like wonder
Speaker 1: how much of like his sort of outsized figure is
Speaker 1: really like not connected to real people and real problems
Speaker 1: that they're living with and living through and working on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, maybe that's I mean, that does kind
Speaker 1: of align with this Wall Street Journal article, which actually
Speaker 1: think your friend that you had mentioned is a writer
Speaker 1: on ted Man. Yeah. Yeah, it uh kind of goes
Speaker 1: into detail that under Texas law, a town needs at
Speaker 1: least two hundred and one residence before he can apply
Speaker 1: to incorporate an approval from the county judge, and Bastrop
Speaker 1: County hasn't received any application from mister Musk or any
Speaker 1: of his entities, so you know. But it also says
Speaker 1: that he's been trying to like keep this a secret
Speaker 1: and they want to do things before anyone knows it's
Speaker 1: really happening. So yeah, right up the gate. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and he did do a tried to do it launch
Speaker 1: a company town in twenty twenty one in Boca Chica
Speaker 1: Village for SpaceX and residents of the town said that
Speaker 1: he just like took over an existing quaint little village,
Speaker 1: bought up the majority of the homes, not all of them, though,
Speaker 1: and then renamed it Star Base without asking anyone and
Speaker 1: just announced it on Twitter. And his rocketship launch pads
Speaker 1: have been ruining the local beaches and destroyers an ecosystem
Speaker 1: that's been there for hundreds of years. We love modern
Speaker 1: day colonization. Yes, all right, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1: We'll come back. We'll talk daylight savings and chewing gum.
Speaker 1: And we're back. And so this weekend we're set to
Speaker 1: lose an hour thanks to daylight savings time. We've talked
Speaker 1: before repeatedly about how dumb daylight savings time is, and
Speaker 1: you know, organizations such as the American Academy of Sleep
Speaker 1: Medicine are kind of against it, but there are you know,
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of inertia behind it. And so
Speaker 1: it's there was this moment when end Daylight Savings Time
Speaker 1: bill like flew through Congress and we were like, well
Speaker 1: done and dusted, because we don't pay attime or I
Speaker 1: don't pay attention to help how these things actually get
Speaker 1: passed into law. Very well, now it's been swamped by
Speaker 1: split opinions from the numbers and lobbying from sleep specialists
Speaker 1: on the one side, and then commerce the commerce side
Speaker 1: on the other. And oh I thought we were good.
Speaker 1: We're not good out. Oh no, this is terrible news. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Can you what is the actual because I feel like
Speaker 1: we all complain about daylight saving saving or savings. I
Speaker 1: should know this from watching VP because that the one
Speaker 1: characters that was like savings, but now I can't remember
Speaker 1: if he was like, no, it's singular, No, it's plural, plural, yeah,
Speaker 1: savings time. Yeah, they they're propaganda is in the name
Speaker 1: they gave it. There's so much. It's not just saving,
Speaker 1: it's savings, saving things, savings daily because we all complain
Speaker 1: about it. But when we get that extra hour of
Speaker 1: sleep or when we go from it, you know, getting
Speaker 1: a little more light in the morning, yeah, it's kind
Speaker 1: of pleasant. No, Yeah, so I mean the I think
Speaker 1: the thing that most people like, permanent daylight savings would
Speaker 1: give you more daylight in the in the morning, I think,
Speaker 1: or longer days. I forget which one it is, but
Speaker 1: I think I think it's just like the studies have
Speaker 1: been that it's just bad for us to change our clock,
Speaker 1: like our internal clock, Like our internal clock is not
Speaker 1: on board with regulators. You know, it's it's not paying
Speaker 1: attention to that stuff. And so there are more car
Speaker 1: accidents in the immediate aftermath of daylight savings, and you know,
Speaker 1: the clock going back the other direction. It's really bad
Speaker 1: for teenagers like who really need a lot of sleep,
Speaker 1: and like the school system is not built to give
Speaker 1: them a lot of sleep. And so so now like
Speaker 1: not only is there there's the lobby of keep it
Speaker 1: the way it is, there's the lobby of like we
Speaker 1: need to make daylight savings permanent, and then there's the
Speaker 1: lobby of like we need to keep like do the
Speaker 1: other like make standard time permanent. And there are fine
Speaker 1: reasons on all sides, I guess, but I think I'm
Speaker 1: pro daylight, like making daylight savings permanent and just like
Speaker 1: moving on with it because it does feel like there's
Speaker 1: just a lot of negative impacts that happen when you
Speaker 1: change the clock on people and their body has to
Speaker 1: like catch up, and just like making that a regular thing.
Speaker 1: So when we spring forward, you want us to stay
Speaker 1: that way? Is that right? Yeah? I think that's right. Okay,
Speaker 1: that does keep the day longer, right, because that means
Speaker 1: sunset is setting an hour later than in normally would
Speaker 1: because we ate an hour. Yeah. Its like in the
Speaker 1: fall when you fall back, you're losing an hour. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean you're gaining an hour, You're an hour sunlight,
Speaker 1: that's right. I mean, yeah, in the morning or the afternoon,
Speaker 1: I can't I can't even remember which. I don't think
Speaker 1: my clocks have been. It's five pm, but your clock
Speaker 1: says four pm, so you're dark and it's dark and
Speaker 1: you're sad. Yeah, but in the spring, your clocks is
Speaker 1: four pm. But now it's surprised it's five pm and
Speaker 1: it's still light. Yes, okay, Yeah, I feel like it's
Speaker 1: like I always think of it as like the summer,
Speaker 1: the summer part of the calendar, that's the good times,
Speaker 1: and then in the winter that's like the weird times
Speaker 1: where we change in order to fix something. Yeah, That's
Speaker 1: how I've always thought about it. And I also just
Speaker 1: feel like we should be you know, we used to
Speaker 1: all like kind of do the same things at the
Speaker 1: same time because it was more connected to nature, and
Speaker 1: now that like we're all like staring at our blue
Speaker 1: screens into the late into the night, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1: We struggle with this stuff and I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: just I don't know, keep keep it natty. Is that
Speaker 1: a thing to say? I don't know. Y. Yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: add a fourth group to it. Yeah, where's Yeah, if
Speaker 1: we just abolished clocks and we all just did what
Speaker 1: we wanted into the void, how about that time as
Speaker 1: a construct. It's tough because I tend to instinctively not
Speaker 1: want to be on the same side as the golf
Speaker 1: course lobby, but powerful, powerful groups are like the golf
Speaker 1: course lobby wants permanent daylight time because it would bring
Speaker 1: in up to ten percent additional revenue. I just want
Speaker 1: them to make up their mind, listen to the sleep scientists,
Speaker 1: and do do what they tell them too, so that
Speaker 1: people are like have have better quality of life as
Speaker 1: opposed to like whatever business interests are. Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: personally love to not have to switch a clock again,
Speaker 1: just because I think my kitchen clocks I never change them.
Speaker 1: They're still off. I'm telling you what's going on over there.
Speaker 1: If the clock doesn't automatically switch is not going to change. Sorry,
Speaker 1: you just avoid that room. You're like, yeah, I'm unlike
Speaker 1: away time forever. I'm like, I must keep my phone
Speaker 1: near me because I don't know what time it is
Speaker 1: on that clock. So and then chewing gum just a
Speaker 1: concerning report for those of us who enjoy a nice
Speaker 1: chew that, you know, while other candy is improving following
Speaker 1: the pandemic, gum is still eight point eight percent below
Speaker 1: sales numbers in twenty nineteen. And gum took just like
Speaker 1: a massive hit during the pandemic due to its they
Speaker 1: they said, due to its social nature, which made me
Speaker 1: think of like a bunch of friends just sitting around.
Speaker 1: I'm like handing each other pieces of gum and just
Speaker 1: like I'm like pointing at their jaw. You guys want
Speaker 1: to choose some gum tonight, let's choose. I'm thinking, if
Speaker 1: you remember all the gum commercials from I don't know,
Speaker 1: the early aughts, they it's like all about you can
Speaker 1: sing you the double mine that there's a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of the gum commercials that are like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, they're about to share their first kiss. I
Speaker 1: remember that one very distinctly. I remember what the brand was,
Speaker 1: but it was like this boy and this girl and
Speaker 1: like the note or like the gum rapper tune into
Speaker 1: like love notes and then they like finally share their
Speaker 1: like first kiss. Yeah, so I'm sure that was what
Speaker 1: I was thinking. Here's a weird question, though, like when
Speaker 1: when was the last time anyone here kissed someone else
Speaker 1: with gum in their mouth and gum and the other
Speaker 1: person's mouth. No, no, you just prepare with the gum. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but then you got like spin it out. That's true.
Speaker 1: That is like a weird thing that I remember doing that. Actually,
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like it's Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: like you said, I feel like it's a mistake you
Speaker 1: learn in high school when you're first starting to learn
Speaker 1: to kiss, Like like, yes, I hold up one finger
Speaker 1: put in a piece of gum, yeah, exactly for about
Speaker 1: three to four minutes, and then my wife and I
Speaker 1: have a nice kiss on a babe. But yeah, I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't know that, like it just it seems like
Speaker 1: we're so The theories on why gum chewing was down
Speaker 1: were people were wearing masks and so they were the
Speaker 1: only ones having to experience their own breath. I would
Speaker 1: always put in a piece of gum when I was
Speaker 1: wearing a mask. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: like I choose. Well, first of all, it does move
Speaker 1: your mask around a little more. It does get a
Speaker 1: little fog gear in there, so that's a problem. But
Speaker 1: but like I chew gum for me. I've never chew
Speaker 1: gum for the benefit of other people. I'm sorry, Like
Speaker 1: it's not to make my breath fresher for you. It's
Speaker 1: like I want a fresher situation or I enjoy the
Speaker 1: act of chewing gum. So yeah, do it for you, man,
Speaker 1: that's right, Sam a mint Gurley, I do love a mint.
Speaker 1: I'm all about. Yeah, it just needs something going on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I to be frank, I love them. They're like edibles.
Speaker 1: They're like mint edibles, like we know. That's because they
Speaker 1: they're like relaxing. Like sometimes I don't know, I have
Speaker 1: too much coffee. I tend to be like you know,
Speaker 1: so if I if sometimes I'm out and I'm like
Speaker 1: you know, at an event or something, and I need
Speaker 1: just like a little bit of calmness, and it's two
Speaker 1: for one. I'm getting a fresh breath and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a little and it's like the point like it's
Speaker 1: like five milligrams like such low dosage and it's just
Speaker 1: like truly just like a calming feeling, like you don't
Speaker 1: feel high, it's not too much. And I also learned
Speaker 1: that you digest differently by dissolvable versus by like a gummy,
Speaker 1: and so it's a more like baseline like feeling versus
Speaker 1: like a gummy can be very volatile and how it
Speaker 1: reacts because it has to go through your metabolism first
Speaker 1: to dissolve, so it kind of can be very like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're really high or you're not high at all, whereas
Speaker 1: like a mint, you can kind of get the same
Speaker 1: feeling every time. Yeah, you know, after after listening to that,
Speaker 1: I feel like like a fear and loathing in Las
Speaker 1: Vegas if they had, like you know, some of those
Speaker 1: in the suitcase full of drugs, like they would have
Speaker 1: a better time. Yes, Like I'm you sold me, I'm in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it. Last time I was in Portland, I
Speaker 1: bought some and they were like so good. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know that it's I am. I will go into
Speaker 1: a gas station and buy the whole box of the
Speaker 1: type of Trident gum that I like because it's hard
Speaker 1: to find. And so when I a Trident man, I
Speaker 1: am a Trident man. Have some blue peppermint Trident, which
Speaker 1: is my second favorite flavor of pineapple. Twist is weirdly
Speaker 1: my favorite. It just has a nice it lasts a
Speaker 1: long time. And you know what, I forgot a very
Speaker 1: important brand of gum that I did love, not just
Speaker 1: the hard case but the Mentos. M hmm, what's the
Speaker 1: like red lime? Mentos red Lime. That fruity gum is great.
Speaker 1: So if you like the Trident fruity, maybe maybe treat
Speaker 1: yourself sometime to Mentos red Lime. There's also the story
Speaker 1: was upsetting to me because there's all they were like,
Speaker 1: they're also facing competition from natural gum brands because those
Speaker 1: brands aren't full of micro plastics, which I was like, No,
Speaker 1: have a bunch of those pe fasts forever chemicals. To me,
Speaker 1: what this is implying And that's not great. So yeah, anyways,
Speaker 1: bad news for cheers out there, bad news for big gum.
Speaker 1: But maybe maybe an alternative future where I think these
Speaker 1: gums are made of the core ingredient chickle, which is
Speaker 1: like how we got to gum in the first place. Yeah, chicklets, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go. I used to love chicklets. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I love of chicklets growing up. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen a chicklet in him in a chick lit minute.
Speaker 1: Those lose their flavor. Three choose in like you how
Speaker 1: we feel about Trident though. That's why I'm shocked that
Speaker 1: you're a Trident man. Oh I feel like Trident has
Speaker 1: the best lasting of like some trident that the cinnamon doesn't.
Speaker 1: Doesn't work that way. But okay, yeah, fun fact we
Speaker 1: only go into the office one day a week these
Speaker 1: days in post well we're not post pandemic, but you
Speaker 1: know what I mean in these yeah, weird times they are.
Speaker 1: And most of what was on our desks before the
Speaker 1: pandemic was gone. But something that survived was a post
Speaker 1: it that I had left on Ben's desk because he
Speaker 1: was chewing Trident gum and I left him this note
Speaker 1: I'd gotten him like a pack of I don't know,
Speaker 1: orbit or something else, and I said, this is because
Speaker 1: Trident sucks and you deserve better gum. So better Ben. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so Jack, I'm going to say the same to you. Wow.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to again, not trying to yuck. You're yum,
Speaker 1: but I do think they are. You should explore the
Speaker 1: horizons even more with gum get those sales up for us.
Speaker 1: I think those trining commercials were was like if you
Speaker 1: can't brush true Trident really and do you remember those?
Speaker 1: Those are like early nineties. They were like dentists say,
Speaker 1: Trident is basically the same as brushing dentists. Yes, And
Speaker 1: I think that I printed on me pretty strongly because yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm still brand loyal to try to. I really want
Speaker 1: to know what your dentist says. Will you let us know,
Speaker 1: Let's see how flossing is going and Trident is going.
Speaker 1: I just I want to know if they say to you.
Speaker 1: I want to know, like if they say to you Jack,
Speaker 1: like you really need to flosphore, because then we'll know
Speaker 1: it's bullshit, you know, Yeah, that's right, and I'll need
Speaker 1: a new I'll need a new underrated. That's well, Ben Amory,
Speaker 1: it's such a pleasure having you both. Where can people
Speaker 1: find you? Here? You guys all that good stuff. Usually
Speaker 1: I'm in the kitchen making making snacks for myself and
Speaker 1: my kids. The show is called Endless Thread and you
Speaker 1: can find it wherever you listen to this podcast. You
Speaker 1: and I'm at the brock Johnson on Twitter because I'm
Speaker 1: trying to I'm trying to write on the coach cotails
Speaker 1: of Dwayne the Rock Johnson, our next president right then
Speaker 1: the Brock Johnson. Yes, I'm at Amrie Music A m
Speaker 1: O R Y music all one word and the show
Speaker 1: is at Endless underscore thread and we have a pretty
Speaker 1: active subreddit which is endless thread dot reddit dot com.
Speaker 1: There you go, And is there a tweet or work
Speaker 1: of media that you guys have been enjoying. I just
Speaker 1: like Atlanta. All of Atlanta, I feel like, is the
Speaker 1: thing that I just keep coming back to, Like it
Speaker 1: makes me sad that it's over, but like, also, they
Speaker 1: did so much cool shit on that show, and it's
Speaker 1: just like if I'm talking to somebody about things that
Speaker 1: I'm consuming, I know it's old news, but like I
Speaker 1: just I kind of feel like that show. I hope
Speaker 1: that that show taught me things, and I feel like
Speaker 1: that show showed them. I just think it's a great
Speaker 1: example of like what television can be when it's weird
Speaker 1: and might it gets super weird and I just love
Speaker 1: that show and that's I don't know, I feel like
Speaker 1: for me, that's yeah, that's it. How about you? Amor.
Speaker 1: We did an episode about this, but Goosebumps now exists
Speaker 1: as a musical and it's pretty delightful. And I'm on
Speaker 1: a not so secret campaign to give Goosebumps the Musical
Speaker 1: the stage that it deserves so much so that we
Speaker 1: did this episode obviously, but we also have a change
Speaker 1: dot org petition to help get Goosebumps the Musical to Broadway.
Speaker 1: I think if you, just if you need a little
Speaker 1: spooky delight, fire up the goose Bumps the Musical soundtrack
Speaker 1: on wherever you listen to those kinds of things and
Speaker 1: and treat yourself, and then listen to our episode about
Speaker 1: Goosebumps the Musical featuring R. L Stein himself, Wow, singing
Speaker 1: the whole time, right he does. He does make a
Speaker 1: cameo on the soundtrack for the music. Wow. You talked
Speaker 1: to us about it that we did a whole bonus
Speaker 1: episode just with him because he was a real delight
Speaker 1: And there's a there's a tie in between goose Bumps
Speaker 1: the Musical and the song Escape aka the Penia Colada song.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so I won't say more than that, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I have to check it out. It's a real silly
Speaker 1: treat maybe the least haunting song of all, but I
Speaker 1: love that song that they went with that one super
Speaker 1: producer Becca, so wonderful coming in last second and like
Speaker 1: it was meant to be, like it was the plan
Speaker 1: all along. Wonderful having you this co host. Where can
Speaker 1: people find you? Follow you? And is there a work
Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying? Yes, you can find me and
Speaker 1: follow me at Beck's ramos b eccs R A M
Speaker 1: was on all platforms. And my piece of media is
Speaker 1: this tweet from Lucas Battle Luk a s Battle on Twitter.
Speaker 1: But also I actually originally saw his TikTok on this
Speaker 1: which was a lot funnier than the standalone tweet. But
Speaker 1: it's a screenshot of Cole Sprouse with a cigarette in
Speaker 1: his hand from the Call Your Daddy podcast where he
Speaker 1: was absolutely fucking insufferable. I did not watch the whole
Speaker 1: thing because like I simply could not, but the clips
Speaker 1: of him on the podcast keep going viral for like
Speaker 1: literally him being a venomous, horrible piece person on this planet.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, all my girlfriends of cheat on me emotionally,
Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, after you like literally emotionally abuse
Speaker 1: them and cheated on them. But you know the whole thing,
Speaker 1: contact me if you want to get into it. But
Speaker 1: it's the screenshot of him holding the cigarette looking like
Speaker 1: such a pompous art asshole, and he's like the and
Speaker 1: it goes me ordering an almond croissant, and then all
Speaker 1: the seats under it are like these dougiast things when
Speaker 1: you go to duncan and pronounce its So could get
Speaker 1: a sandwich please with my kolata? And I was at
Speaker 1: a coffee shop the other day and someone did come
Speaker 1: and being like, yeah, can I have a song? And
Speaker 1: I was like, we're in a coffee shop in bed style,
Speaker 1: let's not do this today. All of the catchiers are
Speaker 1: like all right, Cols Brosse. Of course for other elderly
Speaker 1: listeners like myself is played Jugead on Riverdale and oh yes,
Speaker 1: he's a Disney kid the Twins that Cody also like
Speaker 1: the Twins from what's the Adam Standler movie? You know?
Speaker 1: So no, I'm not familiar with uh. He was like
Speaker 1: the Little Boy and the Adams. Gosh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, if you know you know big down? Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: he's yeah, he's the kids. I don't remember if there's
Speaker 1: two of them, or they just played them interchangeably like
Speaker 1: Mary Kaid Ashley full House style. But it's been a while,
Speaker 1: but yeah, they've been child stars forever. It's been notorious
Speaker 1: in the industry that Cole Sprouse is a nightmare to
Speaker 1: work with and is just like kind of an insufferable person.
Speaker 1: They have. They made their names known when they were
Speaker 1: at NYU, and they were difficult people, both him and Dylan.
Speaker 1: But I guess it's been like this opposite thing where
Speaker 1: people are like Dylan's lovely or he's like fine enough
Speaker 1: for someone who grew up in the industry, and Cole
Speaker 1: is awful. So who knows. I've not worked with either,
Speaker 1: so don't cover me. I'm just reading the Dumoi haa
Speaker 1: goss amazing. You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore.
Speaker 1: O'Brien tweet I enjoyed, please be gneiss Nice tweeted remembering
Speaker 1: this on International Women's Day, and it is an exchange
Speaker 1: from I guess twenty twenty one, where Alexis geez All tweeted,
Speaker 1: oh you're a feminist name every woman and Eric Priesca
Speaker 1: tweeted Whitney Houston, which got me and I'm every Woman,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I had to pass that on
Speaker 1: like it followed this. Yeah, you can find us on
Speaker 1: Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
Speaker 1: We have a Facebook fan page on a website, Daily
Speaker 1: zeitgeist dot com where we post our episodes and our
Speaker 1: foot notes where we link off to the information that
Speaker 1: we talked about in today's episode, as well as a
Speaker 1: song that we think you might enjoy. Super producer justin
Speaker 1: what is the song that you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 1: Seeing as how it's Friday for listeners, I figured I'd
Speaker 1: leave y'all with a banger. I've been on a bit
Speaker 1: of a Brazilian funk kick lately and this song has
Speaker 1: a bit of that with the UK trap twist to it.
Speaker 1: As it is produced by Troy Boy and artist I
Speaker 1: recommended a while ago. This song is fun and bouncy.
Speaker 1: It has the high I pitched Luke going on in
Speaker 1: it and a lot of energy. So this is ning
Speaker 1: game Door May by Troy Boy mc land and trop Killers.
Speaker 1: Do not at me on the pronunciation, as I do
Speaker 1: not speak Brazilian Portuguese. Once again, well you can find
Speaker 1: that in the footnotes The Daily Zeite Guys is a
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Speaker 1: your favorite shows. That is going to do it for
Speaker 1: us this morning, back this afternoon to tell you what
Speaker 1: is trending and we will talk to you all then.
Speaker 1: Bye bye